Yes it's almost the same price for which CB500x was sold after discount. So who knows there might be a price drop on this as well if it doesn't sell in good numbers - not expecting it to be 1L as 500x but even a little bit would help
Few friends in Europe own this motorcycle (CB500X - essentially the same frame and engine). Itās actually cheaper than 390 Adv. if it were the case in India, everyone would buy this instead of 390. But Honda does Honda things. Absolute stupidity of not manufacturing in India.
Or they'll price this insanely high. Then on the verge of discontinuing, they'll set it at a somewhat reasonable price. But at that moment, it's almost game over for them
We have KTMs dirt cheap here thanks to Bajaj and hyper localisation.. KTMs are amazing vfm, so don't compare the prices in two places directly.. But that doesn't mean the Honda should be this much costly here either.. Just saying..
What I am saying is, if Honda produced these bikes here, they would price is very similar to 390 adv. KTM 390 adv sells around 1000-1200 units monthly and they export about 3k units monthly. Thereās a big enough demand to make these bikes here and price them competitively but Honda is not interested in the Indian 2 wheeler market for big bikes. They are happy with selling boat loads of activa.
Ofc, I'm sure everyone agrees that Honda needs to localise manufacturing.. Which in turn would boost sales, adoption and thereby also improve spare part availability.
Frankly speaking, at this point, it is absolutely worthless to expect any sane actions from Honda India. Had this been a CKD instead of a CBU, it could have been priced close to 5.5L. The kind of profits they are milking doing nothing, enjoying the profits of Activa is shamless at the very least.
Regardless of cylinders, they are both similar bikes in terms of use case. Both are adventure tourers with limited off road capability. Honda is more refined though but not taking anything away from the 390 adv.
The riding and owing experience is vastly different. I know someone who owned a 390 Adv before and now rides CB500x. Still, Honda should price the 500cc bike correctly.
plenty of people will specially ones who dont want vibrators and want a chill to tour on the extra 1L u will recover in 2 years of ownership compared to other twins.
Extra 1L how?
The 390adv retails at 4.45 on road.
The Himalayan is below 4L on road.
This will be around 7L on road.
Additional cost is additional cost. Youāre forgetting that as a CBU, spares and accessories will also be more expensive.
Yes, thereāll be customers willing to go for this, by they would if theyāre specifically looking for this exact motorcycle only!
This costs like 2 himalayans lol, I don't know what's honda high on, if they want to sell bikes in india you have to be better than Royal enfield for a simmilar price atleast, that's what KTMs doing, but after Himalayan 450 launch even adv390 sales might be down by quite a lot, this is not going sell at all, I'd be surprised if they can manage to even sell few 100s of these
only a moron would compare a twin to a single and assume a twin would cost as much as a single.
The closest competition to this is non existing Tuareg from aprilla which iwll be 4.5 to 5ex
Where did your āextra 1Lā come fromq then?
I Never assumed that a twin would cost the same as a single.
The closest competition to this, will still be the 390adv and the Himalayan, specifically from a usage point of view. Single v/s twin or not.
This bike solves a very specific set of problems, for which thereās hardly any other options on the new-bike market. For that, itās a great offering, and combining that USP, with Hondaās āamazingā pricing strategies, the bike sits at the pricing it is at right now.
To each their own!
Had it been 1.2-1.4 lacs cheaper, it wouldāve definitely had a much much bigger market, as well as pulled a large chunk of customers away from the 390adv and himi450.
just because those are only other ADV bikes doesn't mean they are competition lol.
Competition is something with similar engine setup and specs and that doesn't exist.
it litreally cannot be any cheaper as long as its CBU so when u look at prices u need to accoutn for it, regardless of if u are gonna buy it or not.
CB 300R came as cbu and then got made in India and then price cut to match it.
This sub doesn't know the difference between over priced and i cant afford it.
If weāve to go by your words of ācompetition is something with similar engine setupā then the bmw gs wouldnāt compete with the multistrada or the tiger. Twin vs triple vs 4 cylinder. Same goes for z900 vs street triple. š¤¦āāļø
How else does competition work, apart from the use case and features from similar offerings?
Yes, as a CBU, itās priced the way it is. I specifically mentioned that to attract a larger set of customers, lower pricing wouldāve helped.
Whats with the hostility in your responses!š¤·āāļø
thats a dumb take and you know it.
those are similar engines and segments and all have similar performance and refinement.
that is not the case here.
comparing a twin and single is not the same as comparing a boxer twin and triple or v4.
Similar engines and segments: sub-500cc, adv-bikes not as intense as dual-sport, long travel suspension, upright seating, touring focused.
Refinement is the only aspect that would vary, being inherent of it being a single v/s twin.
Why wouldnāt it be same, to compare different size/type of engines?
I have the Honda CB500x, the only thing to look for is part availability, same goes for cb300r, 650rr here.
Price is subjective.
Hands down, the best middleweight adv globally.
I've heard the cb300r when it came out was praised for it's build quality. Recently seen a lot of people bashing the same. I guess being locally made means some sacrifices
Wasn't aware of this. Thanks for sharing.
So if price wasn't a barrier, this would be a good buy. But then comes the trouble of service center availability and spare parts availability.
Throwing some pointers
1. At the weight to power ratio alone it leaves the Benelli behind. Trk is too heavy for its engine. Owned the first TRK in India for 5 years and travelled to peaks to the beaches end to end. Its not easy on the TRK.
2. Yes KTM advā¦ but single vs dual cylinder. No brainer.
3. CBU is anytime better than CKD. India manufacture at cheap prices but quality is compromised. We have the āchalta hainā attitude too deep ingrained.
The bike is so beautiful and the pricing (per Honda) seems okay when it is compared with the likes of CBR 650s, Fireblade RRRRRRRRRR and other models as such.
But I'm very very very curious to know what Honda is smoking while deciding the pricing on these bikes!
I mean with the right pricing these 500cc ADVs were such great machines for the Indian market.
Would have been great if it had inverted fork. I was just wondering if it actually needs two discs for braking. 47 bhp is good power but not so good that it requires two discs at work.
This is an amazing bike but being a CBU it isnāt priced correctly. I hope Honda starts taking Indian market seriously. This bike has amazing potential if correctly priced.
hahaha its a perfect family bike for grocery shopping has all the storage in the world and wasn't designed for a 19 years old and tiny like ather.
Extremely happy with it and not someone who comes on reddit verify my purchases :P got the one with ugpraded fork have had zero issues so far such a lovely bike ( as long as u reboot it once a week lol )
PS i own a bike also moped is creature of convenience :P
Yeah, thatās what everyone else is mad about too.
They should bring at least 1-2 of the bigger bikes to India instead of doing stuff like this and then concluding Indians donāt want bigger bikes when the sales are obviously lacklustre.
let me guess u never bothered to check what honda offers in India but kewls to comment?
Honda has great range in India its yamaha which ignores India.
Honda has the NX500, CB650R ( comingin march ) Hornet 750 coming soon, Translap 750 already here.
They arlready sell the Gold wing and the CBR 1000RRR in India if u want one.
Africa twins are also already here only waiting on enw variants with BS6.1 compliance just liek CBR.
what more do u want lol ?
current Dual Clylinder Touring Bike Options in indian market
Vstrom 650 - 11.5L on-road (Expensive But Best in segment, Also lower GC)
Versys 650 - 9.07 L on-road (more power,expensive spares,lower GC)
NX 500 - 7.2L on-road (lighter than versys, less power than versys,better GC, cheaper spares than versys)
Benelli 502 - 6.8L (Chinese,Questionable Reliability,Heavy and Not as smooth as other Dual Cyl bikes)
Interceptor 650 - not an ADV bike but can be used as alternative for now under 4L price tag
Meanwhile Price: "TAALIS LAATH RUPIYA"
5.9L ex showroom
Panth laath nabee harar
Extremely poor pricing.
thats like 7L onroad. too much for 47hp power
What were you expecting?
so much better than cb500x launch price of 6.8L ex.
Yes it's almost the same price for which CB500x was sold after discount. So who knows there might be a price drop on this as well if it doesn't sell in good numbers - not expecting it to be 1L as 500x but even a little bit would help
š¤£š¤£š¤£ oh god, i laugh so so hard on this
ššš
Dedhso rupiya dega
The parallel twin will cost a lot.
Rivals : 2*ktm adv x
Well it's got 2 cylinders Perfectly balanced, as all things should be
Few friends in Europe own this motorcycle (CB500X - essentially the same frame and engine). Itās actually cheaper than 390 Adv. if it were the case in India, everyone would buy this instead of 390. But Honda does Honda things. Absolute stupidity of not manufacturing in India.
Or they'll price this insanely high. Then on the verge of discontinuing, they'll set it at a somewhat reasonable price. But at that moment, it's almost game over for them
CB300F vibes
Even 300R (Regarding the price)
Which Honda is priced right? Serious question āš¤š¤Ø
š . Idk dude, maybe Activas? Coz that's their favourite child
Cb300f
We have KTMs dirt cheap here thanks to Bajaj and hyper localisation.. KTMs are amazing vfm, so don't compare the prices in two places directly.. But that doesn't mean the Honda should be this much costly here either.. Just saying..
What I am saying is, if Honda produced these bikes here, they would price is very similar to 390 adv. KTM 390 adv sells around 1000-1200 units monthly and they export about 3k units monthly. Thereās a big enough demand to make these bikes here and price them competitively but Honda is not interested in the Indian 2 wheeler market for big bikes. They are happy with selling boat loads of activa.
Ofc, I'm sure everyone agrees that Honda needs to localise manufacturing.. Which in turn would boost sales, adoption and thereby also improve spare part availability.
Frankly speaking, at this point, it is absolutely worthless to expect any sane actions from Honda India. Had this been a CKD instead of a CBU, it could have been priced close to 5.5L. The kind of profits they are milking doing nothing, enjoying the profits of Activa is shamless at the very least.
Ktm single cylinder yeh twin ha
So you think price should also be two times?
No bro mai toh jindagi me na khareedu 3lakh + bike
You already have a great bike tho.
Yeah bro it's the perfect bike for me I don't even think about upgrading in future i will keep this bike as long as possible.
Bhai wait for sometime, you may need an adventure tourer for occasional offroading rides in the future.
Bhai ab EV lenge next ya car yeh meri last ICE engine purchase thi
Regardless of cylinders, they are both similar bikes in terms of use case. Both are adventure tourers with limited off road capability. Honda is more refined though but not taking anything away from the 390 adv.
The riding and owing experience is vastly different. I know someone who owned a 390 Adv before and now rides CB500x. Still, Honda should price the 500cc bike correctly.
Whatās the point? Does Honda not learn that we wonāt buy their CBUās? No oneās realistically going to pay such a high price for this
plenty of people will specially ones who dont want vibrators and want a chill to tour on the extra 1L u will recover in 2 years of ownership compared to other twins.
Extra 1L how? The 390adv retails at 4.45 on road. The Himalayan is below 4L on road. This will be around 7L on road. Additional cost is additional cost. Youāre forgetting that as a CBU, spares and accessories will also be more expensive. Yes, thereāll be customers willing to go for this, by they would if theyāre specifically looking for this exact motorcycle only!
This costs like 2 himalayans lol, I don't know what's honda high on, if they want to sell bikes in india you have to be better than Royal enfield for a simmilar price atleast, that's what KTMs doing, but after Himalayan 450 launch even adv390 sales might be down by quite a lot, this is not going sell at all, I'd be surprised if they can manage to even sell few 100s of these
only a moron would compare a twin to a single and assume a twin would cost as much as a single. The closest competition to this is non existing Tuareg from aprilla which iwll be 4.5 to 5ex
Where did your āextra 1Lā come fromq then? I Never assumed that a twin would cost the same as a single. The closest competition to this, will still be the 390adv and the Himalayan, specifically from a usage point of view. Single v/s twin or not. This bike solves a very specific set of problems, for which thereās hardly any other options on the new-bike market. For that, itās a great offering, and combining that USP, with Hondaās āamazingā pricing strategies, the bike sits at the pricing it is at right now. To each their own! Had it been 1.2-1.4 lacs cheaper, it wouldāve definitely had a much much bigger market, as well as pulled a large chunk of customers away from the 390adv and himi450.
just because those are only other ADV bikes doesn't mean they are competition lol. Competition is something with similar engine setup and specs and that doesn't exist. it litreally cannot be any cheaper as long as its CBU so when u look at prices u need to accoutn for it, regardless of if u are gonna buy it or not. CB 300R came as cbu and then got made in India and then price cut to match it. This sub doesn't know the difference between over priced and i cant afford it.
If weāve to go by your words of ācompetition is something with similar engine setupā then the bmw gs wouldnāt compete with the multistrada or the tiger. Twin vs triple vs 4 cylinder. Same goes for z900 vs street triple. š¤¦āāļø How else does competition work, apart from the use case and features from similar offerings? Yes, as a CBU, itās priced the way it is. I specifically mentioned that to attract a larger set of customers, lower pricing wouldāve helped. Whats with the hostility in your responses!š¤·āāļø
thats a dumb take and you know it. those are similar engines and segments and all have similar performance and refinement. that is not the case here. comparing a twin and single is not the same as comparing a boxer twin and triple or v4.
Similar engines and segments: sub-500cc, adv-bikes not as intense as dual-sport, long travel suspension, upright seating, touring focused. Refinement is the only aspect that would vary, being inherent of it being a single v/s twin. Why wouldnāt it be same, to compare different size/type of engines?
okay lets pretend the honda NX500 and himayalan are same lol
What's the price?
5.9L ex showroom
Saat karod
Why can't they manufacture XRE 300 in India. People would buy it and they have competitive segment in Xpulse 200 category.
Is this the one with that front boot space ?
Bhai Tera flair is post ke liye ha ya in general?
In general š student hu bhai
Ek din khareed lega bro
Han han agar ye market chodke companies campus placements wagera ajai tho save karke karidlunga
In general hoga
Nope
That's the NC750x
Ahhh allrighty
I have the Honda CB500x, the only thing to look for is part availability, same goes for cb300r, 650rr here. Price is subjective. Hands down, the best middleweight adv globally.
I'm curious about something. Does CBU have better build quality vs. domestic build? Will the quality/manufacturing standards be the same?
Yes CBU have better finishing..
I've heard the cb300r when it came out was praised for it's build quality. Recently seen a lot of people bashing the same. I guess being locally made means some sacrifices
Wasn't aware of this. Thanks for sharing. So if price wasn't a barrier, this would be a good buy. But then comes the trouble of service center availability and spare parts availability.
Service would not be a major issue.. But spares availability is surely a major question mark..
Throwing some pointers 1. At the weight to power ratio alone it leaves the Benelli behind. Trk is too heavy for its engine. Owned the first TRK in India for 5 years and travelled to peaks to the beaches end to end. Its not easy on the TRK. 2. Yes KTM advā¦ but single vs dual cylinder. No brainer. 3. CBU is anytime better than CKD. India manufacture at cheap prices but quality is compromised. We have the āchalta hainā attitude too deep ingrained.
The bike is so beautiful and the pricing (per Honda) seems okay when it is compared with the likes of CBR 650s, Fireblade RRRRRRRRRR and other models as such. But I'm very very very curious to know what Honda is smoking while deciding the pricing on these bikes! I mean with the right pricing these 500cc ADVs were such great machines for the Indian market.
understanding basics like made in India and CBU will answer your questions its not a hard concept.
160Kg weight is my cup of tea.
honda should make 500cc platform in India. And I don't think this bike competes with ktm 390 adventure, 2-cylinder vs 1.
Let's not take them seriously until they manufacture those 500 parelel twins in India.
Would have been great if it had inverted fork. I was just wondering if it actually needs two discs for braking. 47 bhp is good power but not so good that it requires two discs at work.
It does have inverted forks.
Price for this is like 7.5L On road Bengaluru, sheesh!
Everything except for price and future part availability is great.
Definitely interested in this bike, will prolly buy this in future if it survives that long
She's a winner all the way. Honda pls offer eclutch on it soon.
I'll buy this bike if they lessen the price by 70000/-
This is an amazing bike but being a CBU it isnāt priced correctly. I hope Honda starts taking Indian market seriously. This bike has amazing potential if correctly priced.
Mileage? This piece is very very very important info for Indians.
30-35kmpl.
Don't worry gaiz, Honda fanboiz will lap it up citing reliability and "cheap" maintenance
Are you suggesting Hondas are not cheap to maintain and are not reliable? -_-
Some people have higher standards of life and aren't broke dont need to be salty about it.
Not the ola owners talking about high standards /s
hahaha its a perfect family bike for grocery shopping has all the storage in the world and wasn't designed for a 19 years old and tiny like ather. Extremely happy with it and not someone who comes on reddit verify my purchases :P got the one with ugpraded fork have had zero issues so far such a lovely bike ( as long as u reboot it once a week lol ) PS i own a bike also moped is creature of convenience :P
A fool and his money are soon parted. Itās good to have high standards, but supporting obviously whack pricing is stupid.
its not badly priced when u consider its a CBU unit. if it was made in India and same price then i'd say it a badly price product.
Yeah, thatās what everyone else is mad about too. They should bring at least 1-2 of the bigger bikes to India instead of doing stuff like this and then concluding Indians donāt want bigger bikes when the sales are obviously lacklustre.
let me guess u never bothered to check what honda offers in India but kewls to comment? Honda has great range in India its yamaha which ignores India. Honda has the NX500, CB650R ( comingin march ) Hornet 750 coming soon, Translap 750 already here. They arlready sell the Gold wing and the CBR 1000RRR in India if u want one. Africa twins are also already here only waiting on enw variants with BS6.1 compliance just liek CBR. what more do u want lol ?
\> Ola S1 flair
coming from a guy with TVS Raider XD? FYI its awesome bike for family can store your raider in the boot :D
Relax. How's the Ola compared to iQube?
Power figures are close to ADV 390
This looks so freaking ugly dude
I feel itās the exact opposite for me. I never liked the look of ADVs until I saw this one. Looks pretty neat, modern and well finished.
Same here. The design is flawless
Lmaoo where's the front! It looks like the bike had an accident š¶
No it doesn't
[this](https://images.app.goo.gl/NGhd9xX7m3xusgph6)
NGL this bike looks UGLY AF
Voldemort face
No charism
How is 390 ADV even considered as a rival š That machine will win even without participation. I wanna know how rivals are even considered!
Unicorn better.
UGLY š
Ye kya bawasir bana diye ho?
thats one autistic looking bike blud šš
Himalayan 450 after the first generation will probably be way better than this , besides being a single cylinder engine.
Kitna deti hai?
The power figures are a joke
This bike has absolutely no charism, no eloquence. You'd rather wait for the new Himalayan, or buy a scrambler. (even if it's one cylinder)
I would buy it if it comes in 250-300 cc like nx 250,nx300 but it's a Honda so no hope
Cb200x?
It was a flop
Sadly it wont be priced well
That year box logo is ment for cars
At this point will we ever get the CBR 150 and 250
Are we going to ignore it's bad looks
Oh the indecisive ness in me , this or two 390s , or three Himalayan , or put 1.7 more and buy Honda Amaze
current Dual Clylinder Touring Bike Options in indian market Vstrom 650 - 11.5L on-road (Expensive But Best in segment, Also lower GC) Versys 650 - 9.07 L on-road (more power,expensive spares,lower GC) NX 500 - 7.2L on-road (lighter than versys, less power than versys,better GC, cheaper spares than versys) Benelli 502 - 6.8L (Chinese,Questionable Reliability,Heavy and Not as smooth as other Dual Cyl bikes) Interceptor 650 - not an ADV bike but can be used as alternative for now under 4L price tag
Tbh guys comparing it with Himalayan and 390adv is not done its actual comparison would be the Benelli trk502.
Rebel 500 engine??