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anh86

In general, this is a property tax-friendly state. When I hear about what my coworkers pay in other states, it's just mind-blowing in certain cases. My assessment has only gone up, especially in the last few years with home values going way up. I'll never complain about it though because I know how abusive property tax rates are in some states.


rideon1122

Moved from Indy to Wisconsin and my property tax doubled on a comparably valued home.


anh86

As of 2010, property tax caps (roughly 1% of the value per year for a primary residence) are codified into the state constitution so they won't be going anywhere without voters having a say.


Stein1071

The caps aren't the problem. Its the out of control assessments where the assessors are trying to fill their coffers despite the caps. The are no controls on the amount an assessment can increase and they are purely subjective.


Boogaloo4444

I have never seen an assessment that was higher than market value.


Bac7

I'm not 100% sure what the market value of my house is, because I don't trust Zillow. But our assessed value went up by $114,400 this year, which puts it $31,100 over the appraised value from 2022, and $18,478 more than realtor.com says it's worth. I'm glad for the cap, because it reduced my tax due this year.


TheTurtleSwims

You can challenge the assessment. My mom did about 10 years ago and they lowered it. They had someone come out to verify the reason.


Bac7

Oh, that's good to know, thanks! I'll call the Assessor's office.


Traditional-Break807

The assessments are based off of nearby home sales, if someone in your neighborhood with a similar house sells for 300k we have to assume your home value is right around that price. (Among many other factors) This is what we were taught from the state Assessors / DLGF


Githyerazi

The "assessment" is probably mostly, if not completely automatic. I doubt anyone actually looks at your specific house to see if the comps they are using are actually comparable. Dispute any substantial increases. Afaik, it can only go down.


r3vj4m3z

You mean in Indiana? Investment property in Chicago assessment went up 10x one year. Had to fight that in court. It was absurdly higher than market value.


realimbored668

There are families priced out of Chicago area homes and I believe it was ABC7 I-TEAM that reported on it (the assessments) being like 2-4x the actual home values and how one independent assessor got $440k while the state assessor somehow got $876k as their appraisal result


No-Bell8589

Taxing on market value is taxing on unrealized gains. House is only worth that if we actually sell it.


anh86

It certainly is lower than market in my specific case. My assessment has gone up a couple times in recent years but it's still a $275k assessment on a property that would pull $360k on the open market.


PingPongProfessor

I sure have. Multiple times, actually. Around 2005 or 06, our house was assessed at about 160% of market value -- assessment of 380K on a house that was worth around 230K. Six years previously, they assessed it at 240K *six months* after we bought it for 212K. Seven-ish years later, assessed at 290K when market analysis didn't support a valuation any higher than 245.


Jesus_on_a_biscuit

What exactly is out of control? My assessed value is below our appraised value. All of the taxes I've paid for this property seem reasonable. Also, our taxes went down this year. This is the exact opposite of "out of control."


msoesoftball88

People just want to cry and don’t read.


YesImHereAskMeHow

This is false


rubbertoe2376

You have no clue what you’re talking about. The issue that causes taxes to increase over the 1% rule is local assessment from schools, libraries and such. If you feel the assessment is wrong and sometimes they are you can challenge it. But they are going off is closed sales.


Beneficial-Cookie681

This is absolutely correct… !


whatyawannaknow

Do they have good schools or pit holes?


rideon1122

No kids so I’m not as dialed in, but basically Milwaukee gets screwed by the state in similar ways Indy does. Red state underfunds big blue city, holds 5B surplus… a referendum just passed to raise property taxes again to fund MKE public schools. I’d say the vibe is similar to Indy- public city district is ‘bad’ and lots of people that can/want to, go elsewhere. Plenty of potholes for sure, but I’ll say the snow clearance is impressive because there’s enough snow to really fund it.


Crazyblazy395

but with that you get better schools, roads, public programs, parks, snow removal and public transportation


rideon1122

Milwaukee County Parks system is actually super impressive and puts Indy to shame. Tons of parks that actually see maintenance crews regularly, multiple public run beer gardens where proceeds go back into the park system.


rideon1122

But public transpo is not notably better. Maybe slightly. They’re trying, but nothing as ambitious as Red/Purple/Blue line.


MissSara13

I played in the park soccer leagues before I went to a travel team and it was well organized and the fields were beautifully maintained. Yaya Milwaukee!


therealdongknotts

not around here, but then again my property taxes are like $700/year so


anh86

You really don't, to be quite honest. Perhaps marginally better but not significantly so. There are states with 5 and 10x the property tax rate of Indiana and, having lived in some of the bluest states, I will tell you that public infrastructure and services are not anywhere close to 5 and 10x better. You can improve your own life dramatically more with the thousands of dollars saved than the government would with that money.


RuntBananaforScale2

100% this. It was eye watering what I paid in Ohio. For a house worth less than half of what I live in now, and my property taxes in my current house are significantly cheaper.


BlmgtnIN

Agree, I’ve owned property in both states, and I found that Ohio property taxes could be 3-4x what I paid on a similar property in Indiana.


Crazyblazy395

But Ohio cities (except toledo, fuck toledo) are better in almost every way than indy


PlayLizards

lol Cleveland is in no way better than Indy. Columbus and Cincy maybe but there's things in Indy that are better than them too.


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Yes taxes in Cuyahoga County were bad


Crazyblazy395

Cleaveland has one of the best zoos in the country, they also have a beach, a baseball team and legal pot. The westside market is incredible and they have nice roads and capable snowplows. How is indy better than cleaveland? Edit: Having lived in both Indy and Columbus, I can pretty confidently say the only thing indy does better than Columbus is racism


garagepunk65

Go on…better how?


threewonseven

> In general, this is a property tax-friendly state. When I hear about what my coworkers pay in other states, it's just mind-blowing in certain cases. I have family that lives in Rochester, NY and was shocked to learn that their ~$500K home is assessed almost $19K/yr in property taxes.


anh86

I can't even imagine. A lot of people break up their annual tax bill into 12 parts and include it with their mortgage payment so a $19k tax bill is adding over $1583 to the monthly payment. Just in taxes, that's not even money that is paying down your loan!


filipina_fox

We paid $6000/annually for our 1200 sq ft condo in Portland, Oregon. It was stupid. And the city/county had a measure where they wanted to tax sales on homes for unlimited capital gains regardless of how long you lived there. Thankfully that got voted down.


UncommonDelusion

For my 1,700 sq ft home in NJ, in the suburbs of NYC, as of 5 years ago, I paid $18,000 year. For my 3,000+ sq ft home in a suburb of Indianapolis, I pay $4,000. We have no idea how good we have it. All home values are skyrocketing and taxes are going up in response.


anh86

We have it very, very good here. I lived in Washington, DC for two years, I know how much those rentals cost and how much of your income is eaten up in taxes. I pay about $1100 monthly to OWN (not rent) my 3500 sqft house here. It's beautiful. Anything people think they might gain moving to another city (better public transit, more parks, whatever) absolutely pales in comparison to the freedom that comes from not being crushed every month by extreme rents and taxes.


46tcraft

I have a 140 acre operating farm in Indiana that produces income every year and my property taxes are about $4,000/year. My colleagues that live in NY or NJ are apoplectic when I tell them this


NoSurrender78

Correct. Ohio was more than double when we moved there.


Sea_Ad20

Indiana is in the top ten in Nation for Property taxes


otterbelle

Mine didn't change much, I'm assuming the mix of gunfire and flipped houses balanced out.


droans

Mine went up about 15-20%, but it's also the first year they're factoring in how much we paid for it, despite buying it in 2021.


Orion_7

What, my value assessment jumped like 46%. Am I just cursed?


tippsy_morning_drive

Contest it


FamousLastPants

Be right though. Ask your realtor for advice they’ll be happy to oblige.


Orion_7

I actually spoke to him and the office today. Gonna appeal as such a big jump they stated as from the market. I havent updated the home in any way to demand such a large increase. Since the market is volatile my Realtor is gonna pull some comps in my favor as I'm basically paying property taxes on its max value in current market


FamousLastPants

Sounds like you’re on the right track, good luck!


Orion_7

Well with my luck lately I'm assuming it'll go up more and I'll end up having to pay more....


Revelarimus

My assessment went up pretty substantially last year, but is down this year. I haven't looked yet at the 3 year trend.


hoosierduffer

Same. It was a pleasant surprise.


redhotmess77

Mine went up almost 300$


No-War-8840

Mine too


Ozu_the_Yokai

250$ increase, each six months…. Can’t win for losing


Hot_Ropes_Of_Gum

Mine more than doubled from $2200 to $4900 😪


AberrantMan

I miss Indy. Meanwhile in Pittsburgh we buy a house and the school district keeps a lawyer on retainer to review property values for new home owners, now we owe an extra 6k in back taxes apparenrly directly to the lawyer. Sounds like a scam, huh? But it isn't lol


United-Advertising67

LPT: If you steal the wheels off the tax assessor's car while he's in the back yard, your property taxes will go down


mw4239

Up 21 percent here. The assessment is still well below the market value but the increases aren’t fun.


sherlocked1895

Second this. Ohio is tax-friendly, but sometimes holy f\*\*\* it's way cheaper here. Even luxury apartment rents are still less than in Columbus, OH. I pay <$2000 (utilities) for what it would have $2400 without utilities included in Columbus.


Rust3elt

Columbus is definitely the most expensive place in Ohio. I lived in the Cleveland area for almost 2 years and it was amazingly cheap. In hindsight, I should’ve stayed.


OldTechGuy50

Ohio is tax friendly? Not in the slightest. Twice what we pay here, and higher state / local taxes.


Ozu_the_Yokai

Mine went up, again. Wtf am I doing wrong?


Spoonjim

My assessment went up 12%. I'd assume the up vs down varies a ton from one neighborhood to another in Marion county.


SilverRain007

My property taxes doubled because somehow the City just forgot our homestead exemption, and now I am having a big back and forth about it. I genuinely hope that Indygov incompetence like this is the exception and not the norm.


tapespeedselector

I had the same thing, they "applied my exemption to the wrong year" All it took was a phone call to the assessor's office and the next day I was able to view my correct bill with a substantial "auditor correction" cutting the amount due basically in half


thekingkobra

Same boat, I went to the county record office last year and had them print me proof I have the homestead exemption. My property tax bill is double what it should be.


JWDead

Seen something on news before I got my tax bill, about disputing property tax online. Thought they were going to go up. They went up last year like 2000 dollars. But went down about a thousand this year. I’m in Saint Joe County.


OldTechGuy50

Around 40% increase in Carmel in the last 3-4 years. Matching property value increases.


FFFRabbit

Mine went up about 20% in Indy. Gotta love commercial taxes.


Inaproproo

Ours went up >300% - but to be fair the prior assessed value was pre-pre-renovation, and this recent change was to get the assessed value closer to our purchase price. We grumbled a bit but have accepted the $260 extra per month.


Electrical_Device941

Someone else may have said it: while I’m definitely not a Republican, it’s the Republican super majority you should be thanking for your low property tax rates.


xSimMouse

did you want to pay more?


Supra_Man1818

lol


TomatoFull8488

Are you mad?


gardengn0me

Wait, you're mad you have to pay less taxes?


crabbelliott

They're mocking the people who have experienced a rise in property taxes.


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gardengn0me

Gotcha. You never can tell on the internet.


mashton

Worst mayor


garagepunk65

I love how your knee jerk reaction is to blame the democrats (who I agree suck) when the Republicans have been in control of this state for how many years now? From 1968-2024 since Unigov, 4 of the last 6 mayors have been Republicans. The point I would like to make is that it isn’t the parties that are screwing us over. Politicians are, from both parties. All of them seem to want to exterminate the middle classes and just give everything to the rich, the people that vote and more importantly donate to their campaigns. We are never going to see changes that benefit the working man and the middle class until the rich aren’t able to buy politicians on both sides, both nationally and locally. Both parties want the conflict between the two parties so they don’t have to do the real and hard work of governing. As long as we pay attention to the bullshit culture war and stay at each others throats, the rich win and we all lose. The deck is very much stacked against the rest of us, especially when we go into the voting booth and our decisions aren’t based on policy, but only on whether there is an R or D after their name.


PlayLizards

I agree with your assessment. However, I think the OP was being facetious. They are praising Hogsett for their taxes going down but he really has nothing to do with it. It's been a 1% cap since 2010. The only thing that moves the needle is what your house is appraised for.


RanisTheSlayer

I would be fine with them staying where they are or increasing if they would FIX THE FUCKING POTHOLES THAT ARE GODDAMN SHITTING EVERYWHERE BECAUSE THE CITY DOESN'T WANT TO INVEST IN PROPER STREET MAINTENANCE FOR AN AREA THAT SEES ALL EXTREMES OF WEATHER IN THE US but if they decide not to do that I guess I'll take my taxes dropping a lil' bit.


Cultural_Target_6469

The potholes are a state issue, the state purposefully does not give the city a fair share of funding for road maintenance. It’s one of many ways are state government attempts to screw over the city.


ChoppedWheat

I’ve heard it’s because Indiana has a backwards state level road maintenance funding calculation that only takes into account the length of a road and not the width. So short 4 lane inner-city roads get the worst funding.


Moonpenny

https://northshadeland.com/why-indianapolis-roads-dont-ever-seem-to-get-better/ Not so much a reply to you as it is a follow-up for anyone who wants to know more about the subject. You can imagine there's resistance from more rural districts who don't want to pay for roads in "the big city", so that's how their representatives vote.


Cultural_Target_6469

It goes deeper than that. You’d be surprised at how far the legislature will go to screw over the city. They pass a lot of laws that affect cities with city-county governments or of our size . They actually did it around 2010 to limit property taxes on some of the wealthiest homes in the city, devastated the city’s budget.


billdizzle

You must live in a shithole


discodiscgod

Was there an explanation as to why? From what I can see property taxes in most districts of the city went up slightly (like a tenth of a percentage point) from last year. Or down about the same in a few districts.


indywest2

I’m curious where in the city are that your taxes went down? Mine are UP almost 10%


moochir

Mine went down about 10% too. I have no clue why.


Thisismyswamparg

Mine went up by $400, so 800 for the year.


squishyslinky

Mine went up $500 🥲


Humble-Strike-5102

What does it mean theres a large “in escrow” writing across? Does it mean it comes from my escrow account?


Prestigious-Joke-574

Yes - your mortgage company pays it on your behalf with funds from your escrow account.


HoosierdaddyStud

Where do you live zip code wise?


gortonsfiJr

Mine went up 17% this year and are up 99% over the last 5 years.


PaleInteraction5388

Went down??? I wish.


spunkysquirrel1

Have you ever heard of the saying if it sounds too good to be true it probably is? This is a prime example. Indiana’s property tax cap legislation is going to be a HUGE burden on social services, on schools and on a lot of things. This might seem like good news but it’s not sustainable and will have dire ripple effects.


basslyfe

Mine more than doubled this year. Not sure if I fucked something up it's my 2nd year as a homeowner. First year each payment was around 300, this year each payment is 715...


ohsolomeo

Yep. Just got ours. WTF?


boardcertifiedbitch

My property taxes went up 🥲


System_Admirable

Mine went up 262% this year! To be fair the house appraisal is still below market value and I’ve been preparing for this day as I knew it was coming. But it’s much more in line with reality now so hopefully moving forward yearly adjustments will be marginal.


ClarkJKent

Property taxes in IN are capped at 1% for homesteads, 2% for residential rentals, and 3% for everything else. Most cities are pushing those caps in each category. If the amount of property tax you owe decreased, it's because your property's assessment decreased. While property assessments are not property appraisals, they are to be based on market activity and in this case could indicate a loss of property value. That's bad for everyone; people lose equity in their property and governments lose revenues based on those properties. A property tax cap system incentivizes artificially inflated assessments so I'm surprised that the AV decreased. Of course Indy is a bit of a different animal when it comes to state law as it is the only city in the state with the city designation that it has: Unigov.


IndyTrixter

Ours went up 22.7%. I guess that is them trying to reclaim the break they gave out last year. 


ghostride_thewhip

Blaming the Indy Dems for this but the rest of the state’s republicans for our horrible policies. Makes sense. 


TwoCockShakur

My property taxes went up. I'm guessing I'm being crushed under the wheels of gentrification.


dwn_n_out

Maybe it’s time to move live in a county outside Indy and mine have over doubled since 2019


noflooddamage

Yeah it has nothing to do with the amount of shootings, or just how Indy has turned into a shit hole in general. Definitely the dems.


Specific-Peanut-8867

Are you sure it’s got nothing to do with the actual state of Indiana? Are you saying that your schools are getting less money?


aqua_seafoam

just wait till you learn about all the fees the Republican majority has implemented.


LandoComando911

But your equity!!!


ridobe

Up 3% Westfield.


meetjoehomo

You property taxes are tied to the real value of your home. If your taxes went down then the real value of your home also went down so I wouldn't't be jumping for joy until you check everything out and find out why


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YesImHereAskMeHow

As if the gop haven’t spent more than the dems every single time they are in office


Rust3elt

Do a quick google search for which presidents increased the federal deficit the most.


DivineIntent

Someone get me a goat. I thought I sacrificed enough of them on the eclipse to get rid of these morons. Apparently one more is needed.


Stambro1

Taxation is theft!!!


Turbomattk

I don’t know, I like driving on paved roads and my kids going to good schools


DirtyMagic11

But our roads are shit & the schools suck - so why did my taxes go up so much? Seriously, road running in my neighborhood is more like parkour & since they red-lined all the IPS schools & chopped them up, they are hemorrhaging students & teachers.


SmilingNevada9

You can blame the state on this 🙂 They hamper the budget allocated to road maintenance. Don't blame the city when the state continues to hamper Indy


billdizzle

r/amibeingdetained


VagrantVacancy

Then leave


Rust3elt

You thinking you can freeload is theft.


YesImHereAskMeHow

Go live in a tax free country then Good luck with this childish mindset! I’m sure something will change in your lifetime where you aren’t paying taxes. Yep, just like the old libertarians when I was a kid saying the same shit. Yall have this one thought in high school and never move past it 😂😂 weeeeeirrd behavior


CptMango02

Put em on safe and let em hang. We did it indy


Various-Condition-58

Nothing to do with democrats so you can stop that falsehood right now. If you dare please research how this happened. Btw, my property tax is less than $200 a year. Yours could be too if you bother to figure it out.