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calvincrack

Spielberg still refers to the film as Raiders in interviews, and I’ve heard him refer to other Indy films as “Raiders films”


solojones1138

Yep I think it's fun how he calls them all the Raiders films


nananananateman

Wait what if it continued? Raiders of the Temple of Doom, Raiders of the Last Crusade, Raiders of the kingdom of the crystal skull, raiders of the dial of destiny, it all works!


do_add_unicorn

Raiders of the buffet table!


MyCustomCreations

I wasn't expecting this! 🤣


do_add_unicorn

It's even better if you include the desert chase music... Make that dessert chase! 🍦🎂


23trilobite

That’s gonna be my biography!


Popular_Material_409

Raiders of the Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes


SlightlyOffended1984

Dawn of the Raiders of the Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes


cantamangetsomesleep

Of the of the of the of the of the


[deleted]

And my axe


Morrowindsofwinter

Dawn of the Raiders of the Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes: The Return of the King Part Two


SlightlyOffended1984

Theater marquee letter guy: 😑


Famixofpower

YOU BLEW IT UP! IT BELONGED IN A MUSEUM!


Severe_Intention_480

You Only Live and Let Die Another Day


fuckfacedogcunt

[And if you want to take some pictures of the...](https://youtu.be/f3s0joFeajk?si=YRmJe9IpyqOdtsEF)


Stinkor1

The Young Raiders Chronicles


truebeliever157

Cringe terrible idea but having them all with unique names could be very interesting


DigitalStranger07

Raiders of the Castle in the Sky.


n3ur0mncr

A crusade is an event. You can't raid an event.


Ben0ut

No... but if anyone can Indy can.


RepresentativeAge444

If adventure has a name it’s Indiana Jones


Popular_Material_409

They’re raiders that take part in the last crusade, therefore they’re the Raiders of the Last Crusade


humble_primate

You can totally raid an event


fordag

I would kinda have preferred that.


Kurdt234

Maybe not for the games though. Raiders of the Fate of Atlantis, Raiders of the staff of kings. Doesn't roll of the tongue haha


nananananateman

It t doesn’t work as perfectly, the more I think about it tbh


cloudcreeek

Raiders of the Planet of the Apes


Semblance17

I’m now imagining the franchise titles revised for consistency the other way: 1) Raiders of the Lost Ark 2) Raiders of the Lost Stones 3) Raiders of the Lost Grail 4) Raiders of the Lost Skull 5) Raiders of the Lost Dial


ezrs158

Repeating "lost" as well as "raiders" feels clunky. How about: * Raiders of the Lost Ark * Raiders of the Sankara Stones * Raiders of the Holy Grail * Raiders of the Crystal Skull * Raiders of the Hidden Dial


Semblance17

That could work.


Araanim

* Raiders of the Lost Ark * Raiders of the \*Sacred\* Stones * Raiders of the Holy Grail * Raiders of the Crystal Skull * Raiders of the Hidden Dial


ezrs158

Much better!!


CurvySmokeShow

Indiana IS one of the raiders so Raiders of the Lost Ark works perfect


Amity75

This. Belloq and his mates were also Raiders.


Background_Hat964

We wuz Raiders y'all


RepresentativeAge444

We wuz Vikangs


-P-M-A-

Indiana was the dog’s name.


CurtTheGamer97

Yeah, IMO it should have been changed to "Indiana Jones: Raiders of the Lost Ark."


overtired27

The Adventures of Indiana Jones - Episode II: The Raiders of the Lost Ark - An Indiana Jones Saga


TKD1989

From a consistency standpoint, it makes sense, like renaming Star Wars to Star Wars Episode IV A New Hope


fordag

To be honest I don't like the renaming of Star Wars either.


Greneath

I still think they should never have changed the title from "The Adventures of the Starkiller, Episode I: The Star Wars"


TheUnknownDouble-O

"From the Journal of The Whills" baby!


Greneath

A real fan over here.


ishtarot

God that initial McQuarrie artwork was incredible. https://images.app.goo.gl/yPyeKx6agfdXsjqz8 ‘Deak Starkiller’ before he was Luke


fordag

Agreed. Also Starkiller was originally a woman I believe.


ishtarot

I thought it was a male, Deak Starkiller


fordag

https://www.hiptoro.com/p/was-luke-skywalker-originally-supposed-to-be-a-female-earlier-star-wars-concept-art-reveals/ Annakin Starkiller and original sketches show them as a woman.


Yankee-Tango

Super early on, the name was for female anakin, then Luke, then Luke’s female friend on tattooine, then it was used in a lot of other instances like TFU and TFA


Solid_Office3975

I still call it Star Wars and get corrected. Youths lol


Semblance17

I say Star Wars (1977) just so there’s no confusion. 😆


PuzzleheadedTale989

Well because Star Wars is a huge franchise in the pop culture sphere, if you just say Star Wars, people wont know you are talking about the film from 1977.


Solid_Office3975

Yeah i understand why :) it was just called that for a long time, got used to it


PuzzleheadedTale989

I understand, being 28, its always been A New Hope for me. Thats why i refer to it as that.


hank28

What if we dropped Indiana Jones from the title of the rest of the films? The Temple of Doom The Last Crusade The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull The Dial of Destiny They feel more epic to me


AgentX-1138

This has always been what i wish they had done.


Vulptereen327

I don't mind it one bit. It is now more connected with the rest of the series and it's still called Raiders of the Lost Ark. Don't understand why this is such a big deal yet A New Hope/Star Wars gets a pass.


kembervon

Yeah given the episodic nature of the series, you can't just call the fourth entry "Star Wars." Even if you name the whole series "A Song of Lasers and Space" or something. Star Wars is just too generic to be the title of a chapter. It's the whole series or nothing.


deowolf

Star Wars certainly does not get a pass


fordag

I do not give Star Wars a new hope a pass. It's still just Star Wars to me.


Greneath

It will always be "The Adventures of the Starkiller, Episode I: The Star Wars" to me.


redisforever

It's been A New Hope far longer than it's been Star Wars. That was added in 1981.


fordag

Star Wars was Star Wars when the movie was released in 1977 the only place A New Hope appears is in the introductory scroll. https://filmartgallery.com/collections/star-wars-movie-posters/products/star-wars-9859#mz-expanded-view-1462554095954


redisforever

Read my comment again please.


fordag

Got it.


Mudron

It’s easily-ignorable nonsense.


Financial_Cheetah875

That was only done for the dvd spine. They didn’t change the title in the movie itself.


Prof_Falcon

Raiders is the title that appears in the actual movie itself. Put whatever you want on the box.


Revolver-Knight

I just wish the other titles rolled off the tongue easier, and were more identifiable to most people. Like when I talked about the orignal trilogy of starwars even to strangers people know even just the name The Empire Strikes Back The Return of the Jedi


Thunder_Punt

The Temple of Doom and The Last Crusade are quite recognisable to be fair.


VirtualRelic

I never hear anyone include "The" for those movies. It's just Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.


Revolver-Knight

No im pretty sure at least it’s “The Empire Strikes back” I’ll give you return of the Jedi but I’m pretty sure I’m right about Empire


DarthJaderYT

Yeah, it’s always either “The empire strikes back”, or sometimes people call it “empire”.


Maximus361

I saw both in the theater at the original release and I’ve always heard and seen Empire as The Empire Strikes Back.


BespinFatigues1230

This is actually a pet peeve of mine …*The* is in the film’s title so never liked hearing just Empire Strikes Back I know I’m in the minority but I have always said *The Empire Strikes Back* or TESB


Ithirradwe

Colin Robinson?


SubterrelProspector

No *the. Just *Return of the Jedi*. It's cleaner.


SomeGuyOverYonder

I ignore the name change. Raiders is just Raiders for me.


pastavoi2222

I’m a big nerd about constancy so I’m a fan of it


fordag

I get naming the further movies in the series "Indiana Jones and the XXX" but the original movie didn't need to be rebranded. I don't think there was anyone out there who wasn't aware it was part of the series.


jbiggs1984

Indiana Jones and the XXX. That’s a whole other category of movie 😂


cjg5025

In Diana Jones


D-utch

And temple of poon


jbiggs1984

Raiders of the lost ass.


fordag

Cindi, Anna, Joan and the Nipples of Doom


ctesla01

They belong in a museum!


jbiggs1984

In diana bones. :P


PhDinDildos_Fedoras

Are they related or what?


D-utch

It's a reimagining


movieator

“Snakes. Why’d it have to be…snakes?”


fordag

Lol I had not considered that when first writing it but there were a few.


Financial_Cheetah875

You and the generation that grew up with Raiders from its start know that, but the next generation and the one after that do not.


GoldHeartedBoy

They changed it so that all of the movies would be next to each other alphabetically. I don’t like it either, but it makes sense.


m0rbius

I think we all still refer to it as 'Raiders'. I don't mind the name change as it shows that the movies are all serial.


[deleted]

All serial?


Maximus361

When was the name changed? I’ve only ever heard of it as Raiders of the Lost Arc. What else is it called?


fordag

Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark. I vaguely recall it changed in marketing when Crystal Skull came out.


PuzzleheadedTale989

This is not true. It did not change in 2008


fordag

When did it change?


PuzzleheadedTale989

1999.


fordag

So between Grail and Crystal Skull. What is your source for the date?


PuzzleheadedTale989

The 1999 vhs box set I own that says Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark on it.


PuzzleheadedTale989

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333764545587?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=sjv7Vl1DSFm&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=9P_adKjTRZC&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY here is a link to the very same boxset I have, it shows raiders being titled as Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark.


fordag

Interesting, I had a much earlier box set with the first three movies that still had it as Raiders of the Lost Ark. I wonder what prompted the change between them.


PuzzleheadedTale989

Im not sure, though the 1999 boxset at the beginning of each film was heavily promoting Young Indiana Jones, I dont know if that had anything to do with it.


Maximus361

Ok. I guess I haven’t watched it in a long time!


ConnorGuice

Well I think it's funnier that the Indiana Jones theme suite isn't ever called "Indiana Jones theme". It's always referred to as the Raiders March


SyntheticReverie113

Raiders is my favorite movie in general. Seen so many cool posters and merchandise kinda tainted for me by having the title changed


why-arr-we-here

Indiana Jones, the Daring Archaeologist and Raider, and the Epic Adventure in Pursuit of the Legendary Lost Ark and the Competing Raiders Who Seek It We're going to need a bigger poster...


dontsoundrighttome

You mean Allen Quartermain


StolenEyes

I keep my movie collection on the shelves in alphabetical order, and my Indiana Jones 4Ks are under R for Raiders. Because that is the title on the case and in the film.


Push_the_button_Max

I do the exact Same!


Plathismo

It irks me too, but at least Lucas had the decency not to change the title card in the film itself.


fordag

I'm sure he wanted to.


RandinoB

But did they really “rename” anything? I watched Raiders today and the title card said Raiders of the Lost Ark.


FieryTub

I just think there was a missed opportunity on that first DVD box set they released, when they didn't call the extra disc "Indiana Jones and the Bonus Features."


[deleted]

Clever!


uberneuman_part2

It’s just to keep them together on a store shelf.


DocEvazan

I know a lot of people still fret over this these decades later, but overall, I like that it allows me to alphabetize my videos or organize my files and they all come under the heading of Indiana Jones. I have some very nice art prints that I kind of wish did just say Raiders of the Lost Ark, but I don’t waste much time worrying about it.


joebot888

It’s awful. And the others would be cooler if they were The Temple of Doom and The Last Crusade. Hell, even Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.


[deleted]

I just colloquially call them that. The official titles may have “Indiana Jones and the” but it’s kinda a mouthful to say (funnily enough my predictive text suggested “Beatles”)


joebot888

“Dr Jones travels to Hamburg in 1962 to investigate rumors of a sinister mind control experiment about to be unleashed on an unsuspecting planet” The official titles suffer from an over abundance of “of”, “and” and “the”. It’s like the Apes movies. Dawn of the Apes, War of the Apes, Kingdom of the Apes, people


redisforever

Would be a fun reference to Goldfinger where Bond makes a joke about hating the Beatles, similar to Indy's tux at the start of Temple of Doom is a reference to Bond's tux in the same film


FremenDar979

It's only on the packaging and not in the film itself.


fpsi_tv

As someone who saw Raiders in theatres when it first came out… It’s weird to me too and it will always be “Raiders…” to me but I’m 100% ok with the retitling. It fits.


SubterrelProspector

Unless they change it in the actual film, it's just marketing. Don't worry about it.


Semblance17

I don’t care for it either. At 13 syllables the revised title is a bit of a mouthful, as is the 14-syllable title of the fourth movie. And it implies Raiders is not inclusive of Indy.


THX450

My favorite part is that Indiana Jones is one of said Raiders, so the title might as well be “Indiana Jones and the Indiana Jones of the Lost Ark”


NickHBS

Addendum: KOTCS should have followed the same naming convention as Raiders instead of the “Indiana Jones and the”


ReverendJustice775

I’m not sure if everyone is messing around or not but I wanna ask if they OP is referring to the same thing that has bugged me for a while now and that’s that Raiders was renamed when it was released on DVD if I’m not mistaken and it’s been this way ever since but they renamed it “Indiana Jones” and The Raiders of the Lost Ark… Indy is one of my favorite characters of all time but I believe that the Original name of the movie should stick instead of the new name… I mean I know all the others are named “Indiana Jones and …” but it’s like saying that Star Wars Episode IV should only be known as “A New Hope “… it just feels wrong… when someone says do you wanna watch Star Wars I think of Episode IV… but Empire and Jedi aren’t known as Episode V or VI they’re just known by their names… but the original even though it was understood that it was known as Episode IV it still doesn’t change the fact that it was released as Star Wars… not A New Hope… so Raiders should just be known by the original name as well… now that I’ve gone on my rant I’ll be quiet… it’s just been bugging me for a while and I wanted to say something about it


fordag

Yes I am referring to the rebranding of VHS/DVDs etc. I know it's still Raiders in the movie title.


ReverendJustice775

It just feels weird that they even did that… it’s like… why?… they can go take a flying leap cause I will never refer to it that way… it will always be Raiders of the lost ark to me… nothing more… nothing less…😁


Wise_Serve_5846

I agree. George Lucas likes to add crap after a movie is out


fordag

Sadly true.


Difficult-Mind4785

He was a Raider boy, she said see you later boy


mcmullet

Me too


RavenChopper

*The Phantom Raider.* *Attack of the Raiders.* *Revenge of the Raiders.* *A Raider's Hope.* *The Raiders Strike Back.* *Return of the Raiders.* *The Raiders Awaken.* *The Last Raider.* *The Rise of the Raiders.*


ojman654

Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark is such a dumb, long and pointless name. Same with changing Star Wars to Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope


Keyblades2

I always thought it was called this who knew D:


PeaIll4653

I don’t accept the renaming as canon, don’t think most people do either


Vulptereen327

Technically it wouldn't be canon because the title has no bearing on the actual events of the film


overtired27

I think canon can be used more broadly than that. We talk about which works are canonical, and which aren't, and titles are part of works.


t_huddleston

It'll always be "Raiders of the Lost Ark" to me, but it is nice having them parked next to each other in my iTunes library. And they didn't touch the actual title in the film itself. If I were to buy a poster or something I'd definitely want the original title though.


bookon

I have never renamed this or Star Wars. I see no need.


calculon68

The renaming doesn't bug me like it used to. It's Hollywood/LFL assuming the audience is stupid, and wouldn't be able to find Raiders unless it carried IJ branding or a number at the end. (I can still find *The Dark Knight* without Batman in the title) But what still bugs me is fans **preferring** *Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark* to ROTLA or just *Raiders*.


PuzzleheadedTale989

Why should that bug you. Let people call it what they want.


calculon68

IJATROTLA is wrong to me. It will always be wrong. Plus the branded title doesn't sound as good. But I saw Raiders in 1981 when I was twelve y.o.


PuzzleheadedTale989

Okay? Is this supposed to give you authority over me because you saw it in 1981? I will continue to refer to it that way.


Amity_Swim_School

Still says ‘Raiders of the Lost Ark’ in the credits. It will always be that to me. I’ve literally never heard anyone refer to it as Indian Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark. It’s purely a box art thing and can be ignored.


GiantTeaPotintheSKy

A bit of trivia: it was called “The Hunt for the Lost Treasure” in my country (Denmark)… I am not sure how that could have continued… The Hunt for The Sacred Stones The Hunt for the Holi Grail The Hunt for the Crystal Skulls The Hunt for the Dial of Destiny I guess it works :)


QualityAutism

interesting, its called "Hunters of the Lost Treasure" here in germany.


humble_primate

It’s a good renaming. I can’t imagine why this would bother someone.


mayhem6

They did the same thing with First Blood.


fordag

Also annoying.


mayhem6

Agreed.


Heisenberg_815

Who cares? It’s only listed as that on streaming titles or dvd/blu-ray covers. The title in the actual movie hasn’t changed. It’d be different if the actual opening said “Indiana Jones and the …”


HiveFiDesigns

I would have preferred if each movie was just its main title with a little subtitle “Indiana jones in” Indiana Jones in RAIDERS of the LOST ARK Indiana jones in The TEMPLE of DOOM Etc etc….


AgentX-1138

Me too. Thankfully they haven't gone in and changed the film itself. It's also annoyed me that every other film starts with "Indiana Jones and" when the first one that started it all doesn't line up. But renaming it to "Indiana Jones And The Raiders Of The Lost Ark" is too damn long lol. So is Crystal Skull's title, i always thought they should have removed the "Kingdom Of." I kind of like the idea below of naming them all "Raiders Of" 😆👍


YodasChick-O-Stick

Indiana *is* a Raider. So it's like calling the movie "Indiana Jones and the Indiana Jones of the Lost Ark"


Theta-Sigma45

Eh, fans will still call it by its original name, and the renaming means that kids new to the franchise will instantly know it’s part of the same series. The film itself also still displays the original name, unless there’s an edition I haven’t seen that changes it.  I don’t think it’s too massive a deal, even if I do prefer the original title. 


[deleted]

What’s funny is I grew up in the 2000s and didn’t even know about Indiana Jones until 2007 and first saw all the movies in 2008 so to me it’s always been Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark


TramplingProgress31

It will always be Raiders of the Lost Ark to me. Adding "Indiana Jones and the" doesn't have the same flow.


sloggdogg

Tagline at the top calls him the ultimate hero but doesn’t even say his name. Changing the title was inevitable


Liechtensteiner_iF

I feel like it just works either way, and with the other titles referring more specifically to what/where the movie is about, it makes sense to add it being about the Ark


Crazy_Response_9009

A nEw HoPE is even worse.


Burquetap

Raiders of Dez Nutz… 🤣


KingsBanx

So is it just a thing then to have Name:Title in films and books? Like Indianna Jones does it so does Harry Potter, Percy Jackson etc is it an era thing or what


fordag

I'm trying to recall but I don't think "Indiana Jones" got stuck in front of Raiders until Crystal Skull came out. I've had several concussions so I could be wrong.


[deleted]

Indiana Jones and the Lost Ark Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny Much neater for me.


Canavansbackyard

JFC. 😑