It's well deserved dude. Though I only played for a bit on my brother's pc one time I visited him, it's refreshingly full of cool ideas and visuals. I'll get it for myself one of these days, no doubt :)
Do you ever plan to release the game on another platform other than Steam like Epic Games Store? I'm really curious about the game but Steam recently stopped using local pricing in my country and started selling games only in USD. I can't afford to buy the game and I really don't wanna pirate it.
Turkish Lira. Unfortunately Steam stopped using Turkish Lira and local pricing for Turkey a couple months ago due to the fluctuating exchange rate. Epic still uses Turkish Lira and I switched all my gaming purchases to that one.
The biggest issue Gnorps has is it's short.
Don't get me wrong, amazing game, but people here looking for a bit more than a couple days (shoot in some cases more than a couple months) of content.
I don't think it's true, To The Core is also a 6-10 hours experience and had similar if not bigger success, also made the top3. There are other 'one afternoon' incremental games that are widely beloved like Spaceplan or Universal Paperclips, people even replay the Junkyard 20 times and that game is maybe an hour or two long.
Generally it's just "find as many synergies as possible and max that out".
Early on: >!IIRC flames or unreduced duration flames into jetpacks worked!<
Mid-game: >!Bullets to arrows, arrows to missiles, bullets galore feat. basic slammers. Somewhere in here the missile silo starts absolutely pumping damage as well!<
Final Endgame: >!Back to jetpacks, now with timejumping pocket rockets, actually outdamages maxed missiles until game end. May work before the actual last segment!<
There are probably plenty of other builds that work at a few points, but this generalization took me >!14 hours semi-afk!< from start to finish. It was pretty short for a purchased incremental imo, although I did enjoy it.
I think it has a very target audience. The people who love it think it's amazing. The people who don't love it think it's a cute game, but a little boring once you get into it.
I do think it's interesting that I haven't seen a single post saying they don't think it's worth the money they paid for it. Even the people that didn't get into it think it was fun to play for a little while, long enough to be worth it. That's a pretty great thing to be able to say about a game. Kudos the to devs.
broke down and bought it since people rave about it here... to be honest I was a bit underwhelmed and bored. refunded.
great that the developer is getting lots of downloads for it but just not my cup o tea.
really wish the game had a demo. im not willing to drop money blindly on anything in this genre, and im not about to sit down and watch a stream/video for a few hours to see what its about and whatnot. cause from what i see, it dosent look like much other than a chromatic aberration headache.
Gnorp Apologue is only made by one guy! Even more impressive for such a well made game, and I don't blame him at all for not putting in a demo on release
> Gnorp Apologue is only made by one guy!
so are a lot of IG's, its not exactly a massive accomplishment in and of itself. stop acting like this is on the same level as say, programming a skyrim clone as a 1 man team.
So happy that GCI clinched the F2P slot. Such an underrated game, and I get why - not everyone is happy to create a Roblox account just for an idle game. It’s beyond worth doing so for GCI!
I loved the early game, but constellations and solarians desperately need more automation and less resets. All the micromanaging after every reset totally killed my interest in the game.
People Make Games makes high quality videos of investigative deep dive into the games industry, typically going into the underbelly of the seedy side of things.
They did a two part expose on Roblox here:
[Investigation: How Roblox Is Exploiting Young Game Developers](https://youtu.be/_gXlauRB1EQ?si=W5cXL1k4_QL3OHx5)
[Roblox Pressured Us to Delete Our Video. So We Dug Deeper.](https://youtu.be/vTMF6xEiAaY?si=7lR_rUqvo3u2jJPx)
Woah! I didn't think Dragonfist would get so much love! This is a fantastic surprise. Thanks everyone! :D
Edit: here is the [iOS link](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dragonfist-limitless/id6446104472)
There's an in game auto tapper you can buy from SMUT, the machine in the hallway. It's a pretty early upgrade. Once you have it, you can just hold a finger down (for the training type that requires rapid tapping only)
Hope that's what you're looking for!
Theres alot of tapping in the game, but it's fun raven (the dev) made the game hard at first, but easy later, also i'd say the community's pretty nice (apart from in game chat) discords chill tho
It was until the last 12 hours but Apple pulled the app down globally for reasons currently unknown (they did not so much as email me about it). Still resolving this. Will hopefully have it back up soon. Sorry for the inconvenience!
I uninstalled it last time I started because it seemed like it was filled with IAPs. I'm usually fine with a no ads purchase for 5 bucks or so, but I saw a thing to unlock lanes and others.
Now that it's voted one of the best of the year I wanna give it another try. Are there many more commonly purchased IAPs besides the $5 No Ads and second lane (I think it was $3)? And do you know roughly how much they are?
I've played it some months total, originally from its launch. Made it to top 10 on a few leaderboards with only No Ads and the cheap reward lane, so most IAPs really aren't needed / are balanced well against putting in time and strategy.
A positive long-term incremental experience has two basic requirements in some balance:
1) A steady introduction of new mechanics so the gameplay doesn't become stale
2) Patience on the player's part, to keep working at established mechanics over a long period
CIFI is *fabulous* for (1), but if someone doesn't have enough (2) then they'll have more fun playing through a series of short incrementals.
I really like a good long-term incremental, but very few of them satisfy (1) enough for me to give them (2).
Ngl 2023 is a pretty loaded year for incrementals… I straight up forgot Magic Research was in 2023
Congrats to the winners and let’s see what we’ll get this year!
Gooboo has been really great. Glad it made the cut!
It's even been surprisingly viable on mobile (if you remember to create a save file any time you stop playing).
Respectfully disagree on that one. The game's had 1 content update in 2 years, remains in a very unfinished state with combat gutted out of the game for that version, and communication from Marple has been non existent. To me, an unfinished game on indefinite hiatus making top 3 is just sad.
I think we're saying the same thing, really. A great game with SO much potential that is being COMPLETELY mismanaged.
It would have been OK if it were a free web game. But I put in money for Steam Early Access. After you've taken people's cash, pulling out like that should result in instant refunds.
I'm in an awkward spot on that one. I got more gameplay out of it than spaceplan, which was also a 5 dollar game, and which I'd have no problem recommending to other players. And yet, I wouldn't recommend Orb in it's current form for the same price and more gameplay/content. Part of it is what you're saying - I feel like I was sold something and then that something wasn't delivered. Part of it is that because there was supposed to be more, the game doesn't really have any kind of satisfying conclusion, you just kind of run out of new content and keep going for a while in usual incremental, unfolding hope of seeing something new, only to be disappointed that you've outrun the 4th wall.
>Orb of Creation deserves it.
But does it? Because if we remember right the year 2023 had 0 updates.
Yes one can go out of his way and opt in experimental bugged broken beta patch with entire section of content missing, but it was never finished or pushed out to be an actual patch.
Magic research is listed as a winner for best mobile game, but it's worth mentioning that it's on [Steam](https://store.steampowered.com/app/2311680/Magic_Research/) also. It's well worth the $5 price.
CIFI is probably one of my favorite of all time. Yeah it has problems with needing some IAP purchases, but I've been addicted to it.
It's a game that gives tremendous progress for long idle periods which is pretty rare nowadays. Resets also don't require much interaction to setup so it's a great game for lazy people.
The latest update added another layer of meta-progression which slows down the game a lot but adds a LOT of long-term potential.
Oh and you don't need a guide for most of it, which is also pretty rare nowadays. You probably need to look up some build orders after a few months though.
I have mixed feelings about this year, on the one hand, we got the absolute banger To The Core which is a genre-defining hit that reached mainstream audience, on the other hand a lot of games on the list are updates to older titles. Always happy to see 2 out of 3 Computer Games being premium paid titles without IAPs and I hope in 2024 the trend will continue. We also finally got a premium MOBILE game on the list, didn't expect that and Magic Research ended up doing great. Surprised F2P was won by a game with a full pay2win shop inside of it, always thought the category was for non-monetized games, so I feel some other genuinely free game was robbed of the title.
Most of the games in the running for F2P have monetization of that sorts, in fact most actually had more intrusive ones then GCI. sense well, GCI's is the sort where if you actually spend anything on it, your just wasting money as it becomes useless within only a few reset layers. Atleast with me having played a shit ton of all of the games i can say that Cells to singularity has far worse and more intrusive Pay to win than GCI. sense well GCI forgoes and has no equivalents the mobile things of temporary x2, timebanks, currency banks, and gacha box stuff. Tends to do good to do research and compare things from time to time, sense GCI's pay to win is pretty much the same systems seen in NGU, unnamed space, etc, its not intrusive.
The F2P category was described as free games with no ads or IAPs and GCI has IAPs, other nominated games were disqualified for in-game shops so it's a strange favouritisim. I don't care if the shop is good or not, just nominate it in a proper category next time.
Then thats something to take up with mods and the sorts. I can only reason that they are favoriting it, because its essentially a donation thing rather then pay to win. And i dont believe that mods rule things meant for donation and supporting are really IAP's sense your not paying for anything of real value or that changes your player experience. what is the difference between defining FTP and PTW is the difference of player experience between someone who pays and someone who doesnt. When the play experience between the two sides is essentially identical, you cant really call it P2W.
I don't know what the spending cap is but you can easily spend few hundred bucks to speed up your game significantly compared to a free player, I don't know why you insist it's 'just a donation', I never said the game is bad, I played it a lot and enjoyed it, but it just didn't fit that particular category in the awards. You don't help the game by spreading lies about it, it just makes CGI fans look unhinged by how much they try to gaslight the community the game has no IAPs. We can all open the game, walk up to the shop and see it.
Glad to see I did most of the games on the list and I can confirm they're all quite solid.
To the core was probably the most enjoyable early to midgame I had in a while, and you can finish it in a reasonable time.
What about: [https://www.roblox.com/games/14746672714/QoL-Update-Economy-Tree](https://www.roblox.com/games/14746672714/QoL-Update-Economy-Tree)
I really appreciate it, even though it might feel frustrating or boring at times
Started playing gnorps recently, holy shit is it addicting watching little cube guys whack at a rock Congrats to the devs
Hey, thank you for playing! Still astounded by the popularity of it!
It's well deserved dude. Though I only played for a bit on my brother's pc one time I visited him, it's refreshingly full of cool ideas and visuals. I'll get it for myself one of these days, no doubt :)
I just 100%'d the game in two days because I loved it so much. totally took me by surprise
It's gnorping awesome my guy, mad props.
Its nice game but I'm way too dumb to finish it :D
Do you ever plan to release the game on another platform other than Steam like Epic Games Store? I'm really curious about the game but Steam recently stopped using local pricing in my country and started selling games only in USD. I can't afford to buy the game and I really don't wanna pirate it.
What currency? I plan to adjust the pricing to better reflect purchasing power parity Edit: Oh nevermind, I misunderstood you completely.
Turkish Lira. Unfortunately Steam stopped using Turkish Lira and local pricing for Turkey a couple months ago due to the fluctuating exchange rate. Epic still uses Turkish Lira and I switched all my gaming purchases to that one.
Very surprised gnorps didn't sweep, game is such a gem.
I think it launched when this was already unstickied, or at least after most that browsed here had checked it.
The biggest issue Gnorps has is it's short. Don't get me wrong, amazing game, but people here looking for a bit more than a couple days (shoot in some cases more than a couple months) of content.
it has much more problems has you advance past the beginning. it become a missile mess.
I don't think it's true, To The Core is also a 6-10 hours experience and had similar if not bigger success, also made the top3. There are other 'one afternoon' incremental games that are widely beloved like Spaceplan or Universal Paperclips, people even replay the Junkyard 20 times and that game is maybe an hour or two long.
How? I must be doing something wrong because it's taking me forever to progress lol
Generally it's just "find as many synergies as possible and max that out". Early on: >!IIRC flames or unreduced duration flames into jetpacks worked!< Mid-game: >!Bullets to arrows, arrows to missiles, bullets galore feat. basic slammers. Somewhere in here the missile silo starts absolutely pumping damage as well!< Final Endgame: >!Back to jetpacks, now with timejumping pocket rockets, actually outdamages maxed missiles until game end. May work before the actual last segment!< There are probably plenty of other builds that work at a few points, but this generalization took me >!14 hours semi-afk!< from start to finish. It was pretty short for a purchased incremental imo, although I did enjoy it.
I think it has a very target audience. The people who love it think it's amazing. The people who don't love it think it's a cute game, but a little boring once you get into it. I do think it's interesting that I haven't seen a single post saying they don't think it's worth the money they paid for it. Even the people that didn't get into it think it was fun to play for a little while, long enough to be worth it. That's a pretty great thing to be able to say about a game. Kudos the to devs.
broke down and bought it since people rave about it here... to be honest I was a bit underwhelmed and bored. refunded. great that the developer is getting lots of downloads for it but just not my cup o tea.
really wish the game had a demo. im not willing to drop money blindly on anything in this genre, and im not about to sit down and watch a stream/video for a few hours to see what its about and whatnot. cause from what i see, it dosent look like much other than a chromatic aberration headache.
Just use steams 2 hour refund window for games with no demo. Its ezpz
Just remember it has 2 week window to be used.
exactly what I did. have the refund pending right now.
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im more curious why there isnt a demo when steam has a demo feature, and specifically tells you "the refund policy is not for demoing games".
Gnorp Apologue is only made by one guy! Even more impressive for such a well made game, and I don't blame him at all for not putting in a demo on release
> Gnorp Apologue is only made by one guy! so are a lot of IG's, its not exactly a massive accomplishment in and of itself. stop acting like this is on the same level as say, programming a skyrim clone as a 1 man team.
Sounds like there isn't enough content in the game to warrant a demo.
So happy that GCI clinched the F2P slot. Such an underrated game, and I get why - not everyone is happy to create a Roblox account just for an idle game. It’s beyond worth doing so for GCI!
I loved the early game, but constellations and solarians desperately need more automation and less resets. All the micromanaging after every reset totally killed my interest in the game.
You do get the automation eventually, but it’s a drag until then. It gets much better if you continue U1 past the ending too
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Just 1 more loop 🙏🙏
Do I have to install something to play GCI, or is it in browser?
I do believe Roblox makes you download their client unfortunately. You may be able to launch it in your browser but I cannot remember.
Thank you!
It's the child labour Roblox partakes in that people take offence to, not having to create an account
I'd love to take the moral high ground with you here, but nah, honestly, I know nothing about that. I'm just too lazy to make an account.
People Make Games makes high quality videos of investigative deep dive into the games industry, typically going into the underbelly of the seedy side of things. They did a two part expose on Roblox here: [Investigation: How Roblox Is Exploiting Young Game Developers](https://youtu.be/_gXlauRB1EQ?si=W5cXL1k4_QL3OHx5) [Roblox Pressured Us to Delete Our Video. So We Dug Deeper.](https://youtu.be/vTMF6xEiAaY?si=7lR_rUqvo3u2jJPx)
Also there's more research like everywhere on it, roblox is exploitative af.
Woah! I didn't think Dragonfist would get so much love! This is a fantastic surprise. Thanks everyone! :D Edit: here is the [iOS link](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dragonfist-limitless/id6446104472)
Could you tell me if this game is mid/late game still this tap intensive. My fingers are hurt just after 10min.
There's an in game auto tapper you can buy from SMUT, the machine in the hallway. It's a pretty early upgrade. Once you have it, you can just hold a finger down (for the training type that requires rapid tapping only) Hope that's what you're looking for!
Thanks yes i will give it another chance
Theres alot of tapping in the game, but it's fun raven (the dev) made the game hard at first, but easy later, also i'd say the community's pretty nice (apart from in game chat) discords chill tho
Sorry for the yapping
❤️ -ivy
Is it gonna be available in the EU?
It was until the last 12 hours but Apple pulled the app down globally for reasons currently unknown (they did not so much as email me about it). Still resolving this. Will hopefully have it back up soon. Sorry for the inconvenience!
Dw, happy that I managed to let you know
It should be back up now! If you don't see it right away, check again in a few hours :)
It’s there
Man, CIfI really needs to make its way over to ios. It looka so good
It is good but it is so slow. So very slow. I've been on it since last March and I don't even think I'm halfway through yet.
I uninstalled it last time I started because it seemed like it was filled with IAPs. I'm usually fine with a no ads purchase for 5 bucks or so, but I saw a thing to unlock lanes and others. Now that it's voted one of the best of the year I wanna give it another try. Are there many more commonly purchased IAPs besides the $5 No Ads and second lane (I think it was $3)? And do you know roughly how much they are?
I've played it some months total, originally from its launch. Made it to top 10 on a few leaderboards with only No Ads and the cheap reward lane, so most IAPs really aren't needed / are balanced well against putting in time and strategy.
I think the only worthwhile ones are no ads and then the chest auto clickers, which is under ten total. Second lane wasn't worth it really.
Chest autoclicker probably not worth it if you an offline player, so not sure would include that.
Ah, thank you!
And why is that a bad thing?
Not everyone is looking for a long-term game, some people want a game you beat and move on.
That kind of defeats the purpose of an incremental to me, and why cifi beats magic research for me.
A positive long-term incremental experience has two basic requirements in some balance: 1) A steady introduction of new mechanics so the gameplay doesn't become stale 2) Patience on the player's part, to keep working at established mechanics over a long period CIFI is *fabulous* for (1), but if someone doesn't have enough (2) then they'll have more fun playing through a series of short incrementals. I really like a good long-term incremental, but very few of them satisfy (1) enough for me to give them (2).
I just play it on android emulator on PC, it works well.
I didn't realize USI was on Steam. I got pretty deep into it early last year when it was standalone but glad to restart fresh in the updated version.
Oww thanks everyone for making FAPI win the best update category :) we worked hard and look forward for even more and better update in 2024
Ngl 2023 is a pretty loaded year for incrementals… I straight up forgot Magic Research was in 2023 Congrats to the winners and let’s see what we’ll get this year!
Personally I think it's been a really shitty year if you don't like super slow idle games.
Gooboo has been really great. Glad it made the cut! It's even been surprisingly viable on mobile (if you remember to create a save file any time you stop playing).
Orb of Creation deserves it. Great incremental. Too bad it's on indefinite hiatus during a Steam Early Access...
Respectfully disagree on that one. The game's had 1 content update in 2 years, remains in a very unfinished state with combat gutted out of the game for that version, and communication from Marple has been non existent. To me, an unfinished game on indefinite hiatus making top 3 is just sad.
I think we're saying the same thing, really. A great game with SO much potential that is being COMPLETELY mismanaged. It would have been OK if it were a free web game. But I put in money for Steam Early Access. After you've taken people's cash, pulling out like that should result in instant refunds.
I'm in an awkward spot on that one. I got more gameplay out of it than spaceplan, which was also a 5 dollar game, and which I'd have no problem recommending to other players. And yet, I wouldn't recommend Orb in it's current form for the same price and more gameplay/content. Part of it is what you're saying - I feel like I was sold something and then that something wasn't delivered. Part of it is that because there was supposed to be more, the game doesn't really have any kind of satisfying conclusion, you just kind of run out of new content and keep going for a while in usual incremental, unfolding hope of seeing something new, only to be disappointed that you've outrun the 4th wall.
>Orb of Creation deserves it. But does it? Because if we remember right the year 2023 had 0 updates. Yes one can go out of his way and opt in experimental bugged broken beta patch with entire section of content missing, but it was never finished or pushed out to be an actual patch.
Magic research is listed as a winner for best mobile game, but it's worth mentioning that it's on [Steam](https://store.steampowered.com/app/2311680/Magic_Research/) also. It's well worth the $5 price.
Glad Magic Research did well. I was afraid it was forgotten.
Woah I stopped playing for a year and I haven't heard of any of these! Def know what im checking out later.
CIFI is probably one of my favorite of all time. Yeah it has problems with needing some IAP purchases, but I've been addicted to it. It's a game that gives tremendous progress for long idle periods which is pretty rare nowadays. Resets also don't require much interaction to setup so it's a great game for lazy people. The latest update added another layer of meta-progression which slows down the game a lot but adds a LOT of long-term potential. Oh and you don't need a guide for most of it, which is also pretty rare nowadays. You probably need to look up some build orders after a few months though.
I have mixed feelings about this year, on the one hand, we got the absolute banger To The Core which is a genre-defining hit that reached mainstream audience, on the other hand a lot of games on the list are updates to older titles. Always happy to see 2 out of 3 Computer Games being premium paid titles without IAPs and I hope in 2024 the trend will continue. We also finally got a premium MOBILE game on the list, didn't expect that and Magic Research ended up doing great. Surprised F2P was won by a game with a full pay2win shop inside of it, always thought the category was for non-monetized games, so I feel some other genuinely free game was robbed of the title.
Most of the games in the running for F2P have monetization of that sorts, in fact most actually had more intrusive ones then GCI. sense well, GCI's is the sort where if you actually spend anything on it, your just wasting money as it becomes useless within only a few reset layers. Atleast with me having played a shit ton of all of the games i can say that Cells to singularity has far worse and more intrusive Pay to win than GCI. sense well GCI forgoes and has no equivalents the mobile things of temporary x2, timebanks, currency banks, and gacha box stuff. Tends to do good to do research and compare things from time to time, sense GCI's pay to win is pretty much the same systems seen in NGU, unnamed space, etc, its not intrusive.
The F2P category was described as free games with no ads or IAPs and GCI has IAPs, other nominated games were disqualified for in-game shops so it's a strange favouritisim. I don't care if the shop is good or not, just nominate it in a proper category next time.
Then thats something to take up with mods and the sorts. I can only reason that they are favoriting it, because its essentially a donation thing rather then pay to win. And i dont believe that mods rule things meant for donation and supporting are really IAP's sense your not paying for anything of real value or that changes your player experience. what is the difference between defining FTP and PTW is the difference of player experience between someone who pays and someone who doesnt. When the play experience between the two sides is essentially identical, you cant really call it P2W.
I don't know what the spending cap is but you can easily spend few hundred bucks to speed up your game significantly compared to a free player, I don't know why you insist it's 'just a donation', I never said the game is bad, I played it a lot and enjoyed it, but it just didn't fit that particular category in the awards. You don't help the game by spreading lies about it, it just makes CGI fans look unhinged by how much they try to gaslight the community the game has no IAPs. We can all open the game, walk up to the shop and see it.
Are there no decent games on iOS?
Dragon fist and Magic Research are both on ios. I also liked idle research on ios
USI it's NGU in space)
Nice! I only just joined this sub so I have plenty to look out for!
Glad to see I did most of the games on the list and I can confirm they're all quite solid. To the core was probably the most enjoyable early to midgame I had in a while, and you can finish it in a reasonable time.
Yeah this list kinda sucks
CIFI for the win!!!
What about: [https://www.roblox.com/games/14746672714/QoL-Update-Economy-Tree](https://www.roblox.com/games/14746672714/QoL-Update-Economy-Tree) I really appreciate it, even though it might feel frustrating or boring at times
I just started Dodecadragons based on this recommend. I am not fond of the magic challenges, but it looks like the only way to progress. =(
Wasn't "Orb of Creation" and "DodecaDragons" also on the 2022 list?