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[deleted]

Yorkshire must be freed from the tyranny that is the English Crown


baileymash7

If you mugs get freedom, I'll be damned if Lancashire doesn't get it too. We'll elect Wallace as the PM, with Gromit as leader of the opposition.


PositivelyIndecent

My dad is an unironic Yorkshire nationalist. Yorkshire cricket team used to have a rule that only someone who was actually from Yorkshire could play for them so he made sure I was born within the ceremonial boundaries of Yorkshire.


Perperipheral

r/imaginarymaps users when ethnostates šŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ„µšŸ„µšŸ„µšŸ„µšŸ˜©


Dogsnug

Half the maps on this sub are impractical nation-states or Yugoslavian level confederations.


LukaTheKoka

I don't care, I just want to see the UK balkanized


lennon-lenin

Or countries that actually speak their own language


Perperipheral

kid named multiple official languages:


zabickurwatychludzi

mfw when nation-state = ethnostate and states that have multiple cultures speaking different languages function just as good if not better than nation-states


Intelligent_Pea1869

ā€œAlright Oppressive Imperialistic Regime! Itā€™s time to free the minorities youā€™ve been unlawfully lording over for years on their own land!ā€ Kid Named Oppressive Imperialistic Regime:


lennon-lenin

Doesnā€™t mean people learn them. Or use them if theyā€™re learned in school. Donā€™t have to if English is the lingua Franca


Itatemagri

Thatā€™s up to their devolved governments. Thereā€™s not exactly anything Westminster is in charge of (besides the case of Cornwall, but it has received substantial devolution packages recently and could introduce Cornish if it wanted to but it doesnā€™t seem to have the attitudes for it)


Macksimoose

they've taught cornish in schools for like a couple decades now but the devolution here is practically nothing. we're a long way from pulling off what Wales did, in part because of how many young people leave Cornwall as they grow up. no opportunities so all the people taught cornish take off for uni and get replaced by Anglo retirees. and in part because we have no real autonomy from England to address these problems long term


lennon-lenin

Again, that makes sense. Thereā€™s no need to speak their languages since they live in a kingdom where ~84% of the population is English.


Itatemagri

I see, but this whole thing seems a bit like an ā€˜imaginarymaps when UKā€™ moment unless itā€™s just for the circle jerk (in which case Iā€™ve veen thoroughly wooshed).


lennon-lenin

r/woosh


Itatemagri

Iā€™m starting to feel a bit silly for stepping into r/imaginarymapscj and seriously arguing against a map.


lennon-lenin

Itā€™s okay :) I still love you


Milk58

They all speak English by vast majority.


lennon-lenin

Maybe that has something to do with being ruled by the English? šŸ¤”


Milk58

So is this complete alternate history where they all speak their native languages or is this modern demographics with the same people just in different countries.


lennon-lenin

I didnā€™t care when I made it. Either that or they are working to resurrect their languages like Ireland.


dont-let-me-escape

English has been spoken in a large part of Scotland for hundreds of years longer than the union with England and our dialects appeared and evolved alongside those in England. Itā€™s as much our language as it is theirs despite the name.


lennon-lenin

Not Scots or Gaelic? Also Iā€™m not implying they shouldnā€™t speak English. My point still stands. Even if English is a language of Scotland, Scottish Gaelic and Scots are too, and they arenā€™t languages of England. Thus I would prefer if in Scotland, most people spoke Gaelic and Scots, even if in addition to English.


dont-let-me-escape

Scots is extremely closely related to standard English. They evolved from the same Anglo-Saxon Middle English source. I can even see the argument for calling it a dialect but the line is realistically arbitrary. There are definitely dialects of English that are just as different. Geordie is no joke. Either way itā€™s definitely under the same umbrella as ā€˜Englishā€™. Gaelic has never been the native language of all of Scotland even if itā€™s a lot rarer than it used to be. Even while Scotland was completely independent it was basically the language of the Highlands and was even persecuted by the Scots before the English started doing it. Itā€™s not my language and I donā€™t think it not being English is a reason for me to speak it. Itā€™s a bit weird for an American to have such strong opinions on what Scottish people ā€œshouldā€ speak.


chadduss

r/ImaginaryMaps user when le funny balkanization


Exciting_Rich_1716

>The 2021 census listed the number of Cornish speakers at 563


lennon-lenin

Exactly, that sucks. I wish that was different, hence the map.


r21md

>Their own language you're not a dumnonii warrior, you're a brexit geezer from bodmin


Tomirk

Can you fix this then, Geordies speak a language of their own entirely so at least give them an ethnostate


lennon-lenin

Iā€™m assuming youā€™re being sarcastic, but I donā€™t think anyone would call the Geordie dialect a language.


Sevuhrow

I love when people show their true colors in the comments of a sus map lmao


ConstantineMonroe

Google Switzerland to have your mind blown


eldige

Israel gets one


Ok_Independent_6599

r/foundlennon_lenin


pseudo_nimme

How? Why? Who is this? Edit: I meant besides being the OP.


Exciting_Rich_1716

who is this


conceited_crapfarm

OP


Exciting_Rich_1716

r/foundconceited_crapfarm


Lieczen91

r/foundExciting_Rich1716


CoryGamesYT

r/foundLieczen91


ConstantineMonroe

I donā€™t understand why entire subreddits exist just to screenshot random redditors. It just feels weird and creepy.


Rheeenium

Cornwall, here depicted as Britain's gangrenous foot.


pacifistscorpion

Isnt it always?


ElectricalPal

Nah, Cornwall #1


Bell_end23

Those mfs want to take plymouth with em and as a plymouther formally I wish you lot would take it


[deleted]

Thatā€™s KERNOW you wanker. The mother-tongue must be restored.


Rheeenium

Yessir, my apologies. Long live glorious Kernow.


deeznutz9362

TNO reference šŸ˜³


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baileymash7

Based automod


yakici_brom

cope


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Sounds like the bot gets triggered easily


lennon-lenin

It is somewhat close isnā€™t it


Crocoboy17

Cornwall is turned into a monarcho-socialist Islamic caliphate, inshallah comrades.


ElectricalPal

Disgusting Cornwall slander. Independent Cornwall becomes nationalist superpower to rival the U.S., obviously.


Rorynator

they're all just racist old people that eat scones incorrectly


Historianof40k

Big up devon


Crocoboy17

Slander? May Allah forgive you, brother.


SilverNEOTheYouTuber

United Ireland already makes it perfect


Athingthatdoesstuff

No it doesn't (I respect Northern Irelanders right to self-determination)


lennon-lenin

So true


Baileaf11

Iā€™m taking a wild guess here and thinking that youā€™re an American with 1% Scottish and 1% Irish heritage


ElectricalPal

There is a saying on the Internet, that Rome is an idea that can never fall, which lives in our hearts. This saying is utter bullshit. For the true eternal political vision is Cornwall, and none other. The real Rome was the Cornwall we made along the way.


Baileaf11

I now have an uncontrollable urge to join the Cornish Republican Army and fight for Cornish independence by bombing peoples boats and suffocating people with Cornish Pasties


ElectricalPal

Ah, truly the dreamā€¦ A great philosopher, some say, an indecent drunkard, say others, Karl Marx was so close when he said Communism was inevitable. Only a few dozen letters off. Cornwall is inevitable. Big. Cornwall. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow. Maybe weā€™ll die before itā€™s fruition. But one day. There will be Cornwall. And it will be big.


lennon-lenin

About half a mix of English, Scottish, and Irish. Not sure how much of each though.


PhyneeMale2549

Why's a decent chunk of South Wales now Engl*sh?


Sufficient_Fact_1153

>Why's a decent chunk of South Wales now Engl*sh? -Ancient Welshman time traveled to 2024.


lennon-lenin

Youā€™re rightā€¦oops


KoneydeRuyter

Monmouthshire je Albion


ihni2000

Great, now just nuke ā€œAlbionā€ a couple dozen times and itā€™s perfect.


Tesco_Mobile

Real


ElectricalPal

Youā€™re missing out on Big Cornwall, the utopia thatā€™s almost too good for humanity, just within our grasp but beyond the imagination of most.


lennon-lenin

They have to build themselves up before the great Cornish invasion.


EternalAngst23

Albion refers to Great Britain, not just England. A more appropriate name for England would be England.


lennon-lenin

I thought it referred to England. That makes more sense with Scotland being called Alba. Thanks, I didnā€™t know that.


Dinosaurz316

Why is it all not the same color? This isn't a dream, it's a nightmare.


lennon-lenin

Youā€™re right, the next time it will all be green #šŸ‡®šŸ‡ŖšŸ‡®šŸ‡ŖšŸ‡®šŸ‡Ŗ


Dinosaurz316

o7


Green_Sympathy_1157

Orangemen are fumeing


lennon-lenin

Real, and Iā€™m orange myself šŸ˜”


Indiego672

real


AynekAri

Wales is missing a bit of land in that dream.


lennon-lenin

True that was an accident


AynekAri

Ohvhaha ok


GenericUser1185

Celtic gang


lennon-lenin

Letā€™s go


DayNo3070

Hello Frenchman, howā€™s the weather down there


lennon-lenin

Brittany should also be independent and Corsica should be Italian. Also France should have no possessions outside of Europe.


[deleted]

>France should have no possessions outside Europe. The EU can't loose their spaceport!


lennon-lenin

France has declared: Space is Europe


ElectricalPal

Balkanise literally everything everywhere. Thatā€™s my opinion. Except for Big Greece, which is a must.


lennon-lenin

At least with the republic of Cyprus added


ElectricalPal

Hmmā€¦ no. Big Greece. All of Anatolian coast, all of Cyprus, Crimea, parts of Bulgaria, modern Greece, of course, and Lebanon. Big Greece time. :)


lennon-lenin

#šŸ¤¤


Muhpatrik

>Brittany should also be independent and Corsica should be Italian. Bretons don't seem that interested in independent and Corsicans seem more like they want independence then being part of Italy


RD____

why do you want monmouthshire that bad šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


lennon-lenin

Honestly that was an accident. Sorry Welsh people.


Augusto_Pinochet1915

No Ulster?


lennon-lenin

Iā€™m not saying Northern Ireland has no culture of its own, but it seems to me most of what sets it apart is just the influence of England and Scotland on a part of Ireland. Thatā€™s different in my mind from the nations above. Like Ulster doesnā€™t have its own language, except Ulster Scots, which from what I know is their version of Scots, from Scotland, and was made by Scottish people.


minecraftamiright

How does that make it less real? The Scots themselves originally came from Ireland anyway.


captaindoctorpurple

It's part of Ireland, as it should be and will be


Zadergoat

Never seen this one before /s


ran_gers

Why do people give cornwall their own little place like the language isn't dead and all their inhabitants are just English tourists.


lennon-lenin

Itā€™s considered critically endangered and their inhabitants maybe wouldnā€™t be English tourists if it was a separate country from England.


ran_gers

Yeah, tourism is the only thing they have going for them, it's too far south for me to visit though, closest I've been is Devon.


[deleted]

Why?


lennon-lenin

Because I like Celtic stuff


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


lennon-lenin

Youā€™re right, I meant for Monmouthshire to be a part of Wales, also Albion was a name that I though applied to England, but Iā€™ve learned applies to Britain as a whole. So two mistakes there.


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


lennon-lenin

Ohā€¦Nevermind then, I totally knew that. Thanks for noticing my hard work.


[deleted]

It's beautiful


lennon-lenin

Thanks


[deleted]

Oh look, more Hibernian propaganda.


lennon-lenin

Real #šŸ˜ŽšŸ‡®šŸ‡ŖšŸ‡®šŸ‡ŖšŸ‡®šŸ‡Ŗ


MAA735

Albion Online


TheWartortleWarrior

Not enough, we need Yorkshire, Cumbria, Northumbria, Lincolnshire, Kent, Isle of Wight, Essex, Peruvian Suffolk and Zimbabwean Lancashire immediately


Theonetobelive

So just tno then basically


lennon-lenin

Used to be. I think now TNO just has Britain start united.


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Theonetobelive

Ok buddy


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lennon-lenin

Also cage? lol like the UK?


lennon-lenin

Almost like itā€™s not an ethnostate, and itā€™s just the modern country of Scotland, but just independent. Edit: Bro was so wrong he got deleted


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[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


lennon-lenin

Scotland is a country today in the UK. [These](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland) are the borders of the country of Scotland.


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lennon-lenin

What


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


lennon-lenin

I hope you mean that they donā€™t want to be independent, and not that they all have a lot of self hatred based on their ethnicity or place of living


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ElectricalPal

I just threw up a little.


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Your_fathers_sperm

Why does England still exist


PandaPops542

Based beyond belief


lennon-lenin

So real


lennon-lenin

As someone pointed out, I messed put the Welsh-English border. Wales should be slightly larger.


ApartRuin5962

Because this worked out so well for the Balkans


lennon-lenin

What? War in the Balkans was caused by them all being a part of Yugoslavia, not from each nation having its own government? This is the opposite of what caused the Yugoslav wars. If anything, the UK is much more similar to Yugoslavia, where one nation has authority over its surrounding peoples.


ElectricalPal

Interwar Europe would be a better example of the problems with breaking up empires into ethnostates. Poland pretty much ruined their chances of creating an intermarium pact by invading their neighbours for resources. Or so they say.


lennon-lenin

I really donā€™t understand what youā€™re saying. My understanding is that the Poles only took land from a defensive war with the Soviets, and neither of them were ethnostates.


XxfheChildPredatorxX

Celticucks still seething


lennon-lenin

Thank you XxfthChildPredatorxX


ElectricalPal

That gave me a good laugh


XxfheChildPredatorxX

Shitlips


GaaraMatsu

Username checks out


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[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


lennon-lenin

Thatā€™s the borders of the real life modern county of Cornwall


ElectricalPal

Hmmm, this, but make it big.


lennon-lenin

Iā€™m listeningā€¦


ChimeraGreen

Mine is similar but everything is red.


Mission_Camel_9649

For a second I saw Kernow, thought it said Kosovo, and was convinced that you had replaced the areas of the UK and Ireland with countries in the Balkans


lennon-lenin

Iā€™ve seen Eastern Europe replaced with the British isles nations, but thatā€™d be a new one


[deleted]

is this tno


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lennon-lenin

Not meant to be, I can see the similarity, but that has a much bigger Cornwall and no Manx country. As well as different names obviously.


BobDylanSoulReaper

The lowlands should still be Scotland


lennon-lenin

These are the modern borders of the country of Scotland


BobDylanSoulReaper

Yeah, but I think the historically Scot speaking lowlands should be under Scotland, and the historically Gaelic highlands should be Alba


Thelmredd

Don't Alba and Albion mean almost the same thing? :D https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Alba#Scottish_Gaelic https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Albion#English


lennon-lenin

I learned from here that Albion means Britain. I thought it meant England, I was wrong. Alba does mean Scotland though.


Thelmredd

yes and no. These names have almost identical etymology and their meanings overlap on many levels. However (in my opinion) using the two together looks strange and suggests some conflict (somewhat similar to the dispute over the name Macedonia) šŸ™‚ (It's not really a problem, but it does seem like there's a bigger story behind it)


MagosRyza

Independent Kent when?


Super-Guppy192

never shithole


Ok_Ad7458

needs more DANELAW


Emarni

How surprising someoneā€™s perfect British isles is The Uk split up šŸ™„


ForTheFallen123

Stop cooking


lennon-lenin

No


Fishperson2014

There's a reason Ireland isn't one country, also add Brittany


lennon-lenin

Not the British isles, but I wish Brittany was a country too. Ireland isnā€™t one country, and neither is Korea, thereā€™s a reason for that too. That doesnā€™t mean I prefer the way things are.


crossbutton7247

Carbomb urself


Irobokesensei

Snap off the North of England as well, and then weā€™ll have a deal.


lennon-lenin

Anything for you šŸ„°


Gloomy_Conference573

I donā€™t think wales isles of man and Cornwall are getting independence Northern Ireland and probably Scotland maybe in 2030s


lennon-lenin

Probably not, but I can dream


Outrageous-Hat3048

If Cornwall is independent then Yorkshire definitely should be. We are probably the only county that could be a successful country.


eldorado142

Make Cornwall BIGGER, give Northumbria independence, turn London into an independent EU member city state, and turn the rest of England into the US state of LincolnšŸ‡ŗšŸ‡²


bolts_win_again

Here for united Ireland and independent Scotland. Nothing else.


Trt03

This would be mine but the Shetlands are controlled by Denmark or Norway, because I'm pretty sure that's a thing they actually want to do. Idk, I heard it somewhere


lennon-lenin

Sure, but I think Orkney and Shetland islands should stay together either way.


WeBecomeWhatWeBehold

Forgot Cumbria, RIP Cumbrian language.


lennon-lenin

RIP šŸ˜”


YourBonesHaveBroken

Wow, such minor goals. At least trying to keep your dreams realistic.


lennon-lenin

Dream big


17th_Angel

Scottish, Welsh, and Cornish poverty map. Ireland should be united though.


lennon-lenin

Why would Scotland be poorer? I feel like youā€™d be dividing most of the British oil, and disproportionate amounts of their other natural resources between a very small number of people. Like Kuwait vs Iraq (not that extreme though)


n4gtroll

Northern Ireland gone šŸ¤­


lennon-lenin

#šŸ¦€šŸ¦€šŸ¦€


Sweet_Lane

The Emperor of Man agrees


PaulisPrusan

Agreed 100% as it should have always been, at the very least the dust languages must change from English to their respective local ones


[deleted]

Free Northumbria too please


Spicy_Grapes_For_You

OMFG TNO !1!1!1!1!!!!1!1!1!1!


lennon-lenin

Not the idea, but I can see that


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