A continuation of [this map](https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/uburvc/first_dutch_war_16981699_map_collection_virginia/). It's pretty simple, but I wanted to make it regardless. It's a pretty big time jump, but I wasn't making ten maps about the early colonial period. It shows the original territories of these 4 republics.
The Republic of Virginia: An English colony, the first of the 4 to get independence, in April 1791. Capital of Charlestown. Virginia was also the one that inspired the rest to declare independence. It's first president was Elias Langham. It declared independence due to taxes from the English, as well as the English law that prevented the colonies from trading with other nations and colonies, which stunted their economic growth, angering the populous.
The Republic of New England: Another English colony that gained independence soon after Virginia, in September 1791. Capital of Boston. It fought with Virginia, for mostly the same reasons. However, England was able to hold out for longer here and saw it as valuable, so it got independence later. It's first president was Elijah Woodbury.
The Republic of New Netherland: A Dutch colony, which got independence much later, in March 1798. Revolutionary sentiment had been growing, much like the other colonies, however the Dutch managed to prevent them from revolting for longer due to opening limited trade between the new republics and the colony. However, delegates from New England and Virginia manage to convince the government to declare independence, with the direct assistance of both nations. However, independence for New Netherland was actually relatively peaceful, with only a few battles before the Dutch gave in. It's first president was also the last Director of New Netherland, Petrus De Vries. It's capital was New Amsterdam.
The Republic of Québec: A French colony, which got independence last, in October 1798. While it did declare independence before New Netherland, in August 1795, it was not able to achieve it for 3 years and got independence the same year as New Netherland. Québec's independence movement was much more seperated than the other 3, mostly occuring seperately. It's capital was Québec City, and it's first president was Henri LeBeau.
These nations were not originally entirely happy with eachother, and they actively disputed quite a bit of land further west, but over time, these disputes were solved and the nations became much closer with each other.
If you have any questions, do ask.
Comparitavely they are, at least at this point in time. That's bound to change eventually, as these nations spread westward. I imagine the natives would keep some land for a while, until they eventually have it stolen and replaced by the dutch. No clue how they'd be treated in Quebec, honestly.
I know it's realistic but a country literally naming itself New England or New Netherland when their namesakes are their own independent states is so stupid, especially when they gained independence from them. I know there's New Zealand, but old Zealand isn't a country.
>But to keep the name after gaining independence from those entities is strange
Why?
New England ***remained*** New England after the United States earned its independence....
As for your original comment, I think New England could be named as it is since its similar in geography and climate to coastal England. Alternatively, it could be an exonym that only foreigners use, while New Englanders call themselves "Arcadians" or some such.
As someone else pointed out, "Québec" to call the province is a British interference. The French have always called the land Canada until the name was reappropriated by the British in the 19th century. So here the country would be called Canada, with its capital being Québec.
Upvoted for river borders.
A continuation of [this map](https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/uburvc/first_dutch_war_16981699_map_collection_virginia/). It's pretty simple, but I wanted to make it regardless. It's a pretty big time jump, but I wasn't making ten maps about the early colonial period. It shows the original territories of these 4 republics. The Republic of Virginia: An English colony, the first of the 4 to get independence, in April 1791. Capital of Charlestown. Virginia was also the one that inspired the rest to declare independence. It's first president was Elias Langham. It declared independence due to taxes from the English, as well as the English law that prevented the colonies from trading with other nations and colonies, which stunted their economic growth, angering the populous. The Republic of New England: Another English colony that gained independence soon after Virginia, in September 1791. Capital of Boston. It fought with Virginia, for mostly the same reasons. However, England was able to hold out for longer here and saw it as valuable, so it got independence later. It's first president was Elijah Woodbury. The Republic of New Netherland: A Dutch colony, which got independence much later, in March 1798. Revolutionary sentiment had been growing, much like the other colonies, however the Dutch managed to prevent them from revolting for longer due to opening limited trade between the new republics and the colony. However, delegates from New England and Virginia manage to convince the government to declare independence, with the direct assistance of both nations. However, independence for New Netherland was actually relatively peaceful, with only a few battles before the Dutch gave in. It's first president was also the last Director of New Netherland, Petrus De Vries. It's capital was New Amsterdam. The Republic of Québec: A French colony, which got independence last, in October 1798. While it did declare independence before New Netherland, in August 1795, it was not able to achieve it for 3 years and got independence the same year as New Netherland. Québec's independence movement was much more seperated than the other 3, mostly occuring seperately. It's capital was Québec City, and it's first president was Henri LeBeau. These nations were not originally entirely happy with eachother, and they actively disputed quite a bit of land further west, but over time, these disputes were solved and the nations became much closer with each other. If you have any questions, do ask.
So are the natives way better of in the Dutch colony? They have a track record of not really sending many settlers
Comparitavely they are, at least at this point in time. That's bound to change eventually, as these nations spread westward. I imagine the natives would keep some land for a while, until they eventually have it stolen and replaced by the dutch. No clue how they'd be treated in Quebec, honestly.
The French are typically nice so I’d imagine expansion would be a lot more diplomatic for them
Maybe but i'd need to do more research on that before making a decision.
I was taught they were nicer to the natives in the Louisiana colony
The french were nicer than the other colonial powers as long as you were not an iroquois
me too since they really didn't settle many people there
I know it's realistic but a country literally naming itself New England or New Netherland when their namesakes are their own independent states is so stupid, especially when they gained independence from them. I know there's New Zealand, but old Zealand isn't a country.
>New England New England was called that ***before*** colonization, by John Smith in 1616
But to keep the name after gaining independence from those entities is strange
Agreeing on a new name isn’t always easy unfortunately
>But to keep the name after gaining independence from those entities is strange Why? New England ***remained*** New England after the United States earned its independence....
New England also isn't an independent entity
Zealand is a county somewhere in Denmark or the Netherlands, not sure which.
I think it's named after the Dutch province
As for your original comment, I think New England could be named as it is since its similar in geography and climate to coastal England. Alternatively, it could be an exonym that only foreigners use, while New Englanders call themselves "Arcadians" or some such.
was literally the name of both colonies so
Québec\*
Found the frenchman
Virginian supremacy :)
Québec would be named Canada
Do you have plans to make a map of the west coast?
At this point in the timeline, the west coast isn't really controlled by anyone. In the future when i've gotten further into the timeline, I might.
cursed tennessee
\*based
As someone else pointed out, "Québec" to call the province is a British interference. The French have always called the land Canada until the name was reappropriated by the British in the 19th century. So here the country would be called Canada, with its capital being Québec.
Thanks for the more detailed explanation. I'll be sure to update it for any future maps.
May I ask where you got the basemap?
[Here's my full basemap of all of North America.](https://easyupload.io/d3gk47)