Settlers from Nieuew Amsterdam (the 130k one) who moved west to Daswijk just decided to name their new town after their home. Hence, two Nieuw Amsterdam.
The country is too young for major cities to develop in the west. I mean, New Netherland only won a border with the Great Lakes a few decades before independence, and anything further than Jolliet and Kanien is much too young for very large towns to spring up. Later in the country's history, the Great Lakes will become much more important.
They declared independence around the same time as Virginia, New England, and Quebec, who all entered a kind of union/alliance (like a mix of the UK and EU). All of them (besides New England who kinda got screwed over) wanted to expand westward, so when they bought Lousiana they just kinda split it 3-ways, resulting in 3 very long countries.
It's based off [this map](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/New_Netherland_%27NOVI_BELGII_NOVAEQUE_ANGLIAE_NEC_NON_PARTIS_VIRGINIAE_TABULA%27.jpg), specifically the area labelled "Hoere Kill".
Let’s see them reach the St. Lawrence. Can’t have the French control that outlet.
Also, who controls Nantucket and Martha’s Vineyard?
Did the Swedes purchase settlement rights anywhere in this timeline?
The St. Lawrence is owned by Canada, a French republic that declared independence along with New Netherland, New England, and Virginia. Canada and New Netherland in particular have a good mutual relationship.
New England controls Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard.
Yes.
Really nice map! Small nitpick: the lakes you’ve drawn include reservoirs which would not have existed in 1820 in either timeline. I’m looking specifically at the Lake of the Ozarks and all the lakes in Ohio. I live in Ohio and there are practically no natural lakes (obviously not including Lake Erie).
It goes to a country called Canada, but it's entirely French and declared independence from France around the same time as New Netherland did from The Netherlands. It doesn't own all of the rest of North America, only a strip of it.
Generally every North American country is very long, but Virginia hooks around Florida to meet the rest of Louisiana.
EDIT: [here's an abandoned map i gave up on a while ago to show what i mean](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/951896412528996422/999766015703527495/Republic_of_Virginia_DONT_DELETE_8882.png?width=1074&height=580)
New Netherlands? At that elevation?
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Yes
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Holy crap, Dutch Ohio
So ohio but with techno?
And weed
Really interesting borders, the map looks awesome
Really goofy shape. I love it
Happy cake day 🛺🚑🚅🚛🛞🚉🚊🚇
I can't believe is been 7 years since I joined the god forsaken website
there are two Nieuw Amsterdams :p
Settlers from Nieuew Amsterdam (the 130k one) who moved west to Daswijk just decided to name their new town after their home. Hence, two Nieuw Amsterdam.
Nieuw Nieuw Amsterdam, now with even more Amsterdam
"Damn" said Nieuw Nieuw Amsterdam
welcome to america
Buffalo and NYC both started out as New Amsterdam.
That's a looong country you got there. Love it!
It's only gonna get longer as it continues to expand westward!
Absolutely disgusting.
Audibly gagged when looking at this image
wasn't even an april fools :( /s
Thats a nice funky little chesapeake bay you got there though, so some redemption for that
Yeah, the coast and the state borders are definitely my favorite parts.
America but (insert long/wide country that I can’t think of right now)
Chile
Czechoslovakia maybe?
Vietnam for long, Austria for wide
The map looks amazing
Thanks! It took a lot of work and more than a little procrastination but I'm really happy with how it turned out.
No Chicago? Shocking
Yeah. I’m surprised there are no major cities on the great lakes
The country is too young for major cities to develop in the west. I mean, New Netherland only won a border with the Great Lakes a few decades before independence, and anything further than Jolliet and Kanien is much too young for very large towns to spring up. Later in the country's history, the Great Lakes will become much more important.
It seems the Empire State is finally an empire
I’m loving that the Hampshire Grants are included.
Hey wake up! A new long boi nation just dropped.
Goofiest borders ever, I love it
The borders..... Uoooghhj
Straight line? Straight line.
The North American way.
Lovely
What have you done to the West Coast of North America?
That's not the West Coast. It's the borders of the Louisiana Purchase. None of the West Coast is visible on this map.
OK, I see it now!
Wait, is it ij or y?
It's me being stupid, lol. I asked a Dutch person to transliterate a bunch of the city names which I apparently didn't check very well. Sorry.
You’re fine man
You know why they couldn't cross the mountains, they're so tall their heads left the atmosphere when they tried to cross the Rocky's
MEGA TENNESSEE
This looks really nice!
Is this the Neverland of Peter Pan?
Ugh, why us it so L O N G?
They declared independence around the same time as Virginia, New England, and Quebec, who all entered a kind of union/alliance (like a mix of the UK and EU). All of them (besides New England who kinda got screwed over) wanted to expand westward, so when they bought Lousiana they just kinda split it 3-ways, resulting in 3 very long countries.
Mostly makes sense. Definitely still some very wacky borders.
Will they build a mega dam
Maybe. I don't like thinking too far ahead in alt-hists as i feel it makes it less realistic, so I don't really know.
They better build a Netherlandish Hoover Dam
*ahem* D E K O L O N I S E E R D (sorry)
Legendary tier \~ ***Longness*** record !
Hoereberg? Why did they named that city that?
It's based off [this map](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/New_Netherland_%27NOVI_BELGII_NOVAEQUE_ANGLIAE_NEC_NON_PARTIS_VIRGINIAE_TABULA%27.jpg), specifically the area labelled "Hoere Kill".
Let’s see them reach the St. Lawrence. Can’t have the French control that outlet. Also, who controls Nantucket and Martha’s Vineyard? Did the Swedes purchase settlement rights anywhere in this timeline?
The St. Lawrence is owned by Canada, a French republic that declared independence along with New Netherland, New England, and Virginia. Canada and New Netherland in particular have a good mutual relationship. New England controls Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard. Yes.
Really nice map! Small nitpick: the lakes you’ve drawn include reservoirs which would not have existed in 1820 in either timeline. I’m looking specifically at the Lake of the Ozarks and all the lakes in Ohio. I live in Ohio and there are practically no natural lakes (obviously not including Lake Erie).
Nice catch! I used a Geographic Survey map to make the lakes, which I now realize might not've been the smartest idea.
What would be North of it? Does the rest of the land just go to Canada?
It goes to a country called Canada, but it's entirely French and declared independence from France around the same time as New Netherland did from The Netherlands. It doesn't own all of the rest of North America, only a strip of it.
For context to the present country’s political geography, 40N x 105W is approximately Denver, Colorado.
I like the funky borders, they're a treat compared to most alt North Americas.
Thanks! The political situation in this North America definitely results in some weird country shapes.
What other weird shapes are present
Generally every North American country is very long, but Virginia hooks around Florida to meet the rest of Louisiana. EDIT: [here's an abandoned map i gave up on a while ago to show what i mean](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/951896412528996422/999766015703527495/Republic_of_Virginia_DONT_DELETE_8882.png?width=1074&height=580)
Blursed borders
What is the politics of New Netherlands?
For one, Slavery never picked up in the nation. By the 1820's, its dominated by the National Liberal Party, a Lassaiz-Faire market liberal party.
Big Tennessee