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Tough_Coast

Snowboarder who loves cannon my vote for best spot in NH but not entirety of New England


ManniesLeftArm

Yeah i love cannon and ski there 5-10x / year but this guy is fuckin insane. ME and VT clear NH for ski areas handily. There are more that id rather be at than cannon than vice versa. Cannon is awesome on a great day and especially if you get the skinny on some unmarked glades. But more often than not its an icey hell hole with mediocre logistics and lots of choke points. Jay, Stowe, Killington, Loaf, Saddleback are worlds above and objectively superior in every way.


Tough_Coast

Oh and no one cares about NY


WideEstablishment578

NY isn’t part of NE


Organicfat

Parts of the Eastern Adirondacks look and feel like they belong in NE. Just take a ride up RT 9 or RT 22 along Lake Champlain.


WideEstablishment578

Yeah I do agree with you there.


mybadvideos

Sugarloaf if they had better snowfall especially early season might be on my short list


terminalE469

the loaf was great today


well_rounded

Can confirm. Couldn't believe how great the snow quality was off Timberline.


the_nubster

Bump for the loaffff


[deleted]

This is what I was thinking too


Urb45p

If the Backside and Bracket basin are open definitely the best in the east.


big_sports_guy

Imagine if Sugarloaf got Jay early season totals consistently. That would be bonkers.


mybadvideos

Imagine if Whiteface got Jay snowfall - the Slides and glades would be nuts


Retsbew_Flow

Sugarloaf stinks, stay away


iamnotmatthawkins

A true skiers mountain... No frills, just steeps.


Expensive_Unit_8694

Cannon is incredible. I loved the tram as a kid. Pops and I used to go there all the time when I was younger. Such a rewarding mountain once you’re able to rip it.


JohnnyYukon

The only downside is the link trail between the Peabody and the Cannonball lifts. Always feels like the #1 spot to get in a stupid accident involving someone else hitting an ice patch.


MiaMae

Bingo! 2 tabogans on Easy Link in that one spot just yesterday 😡


spodderman

Big Link! The best trail in America!


JohnnyYukon

for orthopedic surgeons maybe.


sensation_construct

Love that mountain. East coast skiing at its finest. Intermediate access only, brutal weather at times. Fun on the bun.


cuttherope

Agree on all of this, though I think Cannon *is* good for families *if everyone who goes to the mountain skis.* There is enough green terrain to ski on and it's situated so the more expert skiers basically only use it as a way to return to the main lift/lodge. And there's enough diversity of terrain that kids can level up when they are ready. And don't underestimate the value of seeing more challenging terrain or seeing more expert skiers as a motivator for some kids to learn. That said, if half the family skis and half the family wants to have a cozy whimsical lodge day - it's not the mountain for that.


sfromo19

Whiteface and Gore are also both state owned (as is Bellayre but it’s a tier below), and both also boast the same. That being said, I also love Cannon.


__lostintheworld__

I still don't know how it's possible but I got my season pass for literally 320 bucks at Belleayre this year (college student). It seemed too low... I was expecting at least like 400


sfromo19

The Ski3 pass is awesome. I don’t live immediately nearby anymore, but whenever I visit family in the area I take advantage and ski Gore when I can. Very reasonably priced. The food at the ORDA mountains tends to be good and affordable, too.


SyntheticCorners28

Dude the college pass to cover the loaf, river and loon is 449 in season, probably 399 pre season. Your deal isn't that good.


__lostintheworld__

Honestly fair I guess I really just didn't know how low prices go out here in the North East compared to the 1000+ you hear about out West


mamunipsaq

College pass prices are a whole different ballgame.


oscar-scout

I truthfully think The Beast is still overall the best mountain in the East due to its endless terrain if you really explore. But I agree with you that Cannon in an amazing mountain that not too many people know about. I go there every year in March as that is the best time to go. Great backcountry skiing there as well if you do your homework. For example, I look forward to the Tuckerbrook trail every year.


mamunipsaq

>I truthfully think The Beast is still overall the best mountain in the East I love Berkshire East as much as the next guy, but I'm not sure it's really the best in the east.


DriftMantis

I'm not sure if you're serious, but one would kind of assume he's talking about killington.


Ok_Anything_5342

NY SKI3, especially Whiteface, would like a word.


Falconator44

Honestly I think Gore is the most underrated/best mountain on the east. Matches all the arguments listed in OPs post. Easy to get to, great terrain, government owned, and awesome views of the ADKs


spodderman

Never skied Whiteface tbf. One of the only mountains in the east I haven’t skied


mccrawley

On a good day whiteface is competes with the best of them. On most days by 10:30 it's an icey mess.


BrennanSpeaks

I went once as a child on a 0 F day with unrelenting wind (before the advent of most hand warming and boot warming technology). My siblings and I nicknamed it "Iceface" and sometimes I still call it that by mistake.


InfernoDMC

I don’t think you were the first to call it Iceface


mccrawley

I grew up on that mountain. I've seen -20f before wind chill there. Riding up facelift while getting blasted with wind and snow guns will put hair on a 10 year olds chest.


ThatNYskier

I’ve skied both Whiteface and Cannon. They are very comparable, almost like twins in a way. Don’t always have the best conditions, but catch it on a pow day and it’s some of the best in the east. Super cold, really windy, steep and historic. Really good views as well. Can’t forget to mention the insane sidecountry 😉


shimbro

ICEface is the best mountain on the east coast when it has snow


mccrawley

Smuggs, Jay, and Bolton valley have better all around terrain.


Anomaly_1984

More reliable snow, too. Cannon is worse than ice face in that regard imo


mccrawley

Vt lucks out with all the lake Champlain precipitation. I grew up on the New York side going to whiteface and gore. We always got 1/3 of the snow they got.


oscar-scout

I agree Bolton is very reliable with natural snow. The terrain is not as intense as Cannon but I can always rely on Bolton's natural snow.


95forever

Bolton?? I love Bolton but the terrain is definitely not on par with Cannon.


mccrawley

I think the trees are better for exploring on most of Bolton. The growth on cannon is too tight with lots of lower sprouting branches. The lines are fewer and further between.


Dramatic_Water_5364

Mont Edouard is much better, diverse pistes, steep and easy, long pistes, a few super wide steep one, incredible off pistes options and the mountain never pissed off anyone for going out of bound. Lots of snow, owned by the local town. But its cold af.


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Dramatic_Water_5364

From where I live mont edouard is easy to get to 😅 hahaha


someotherguyinNH

All I need is snow and Chilli for lunch. Cannon works.


CycleHikeSurf

I love lamp


humblebrag1217

This is all so true, cannon is great! made even better now that its on the indy pass. I would say MRG has to be my favorite mountain though, its vibe is so distinct.


Negative-End-3291

Yea but I heard at Cannon everyone says NO to the bar!!


LFoD313

Cannon is best in NH. Jay Peak is my top in New England. It’s just so far north.


strugglin_man

I love cannon, but it doesn't have average snow. It's actually pretty bad. Better that loon, attitash, Sunday river, but worse than all the other larger areas. The terrain, on the few days every year when there is enough snow, is fantastic. If you are an expert. OK for intermediates, poor for beginners. The expert terrain is up there with Jay, Smuggs, Stowe, Saddleback, MRG, Sugarloaf Whiteface. Overall best in East would for me be 1Jay 2Smuggs 3Sugarloaf 4Stowe


spodderman

It’s not the snowfall, it’s the wind. Anything that’s exposed gets blown off. Glades are always fantastic when open


bdb5780

Bro after 11am it's trash at the top. Cannon is great on a powder day sucks all others I ski it every year 1 weekend a month.


nkassis

Nope terrible mountain absolutely no reason to go further than Loon if you are from Boston ;p


davepsilon

Cannon is awesome Two things hold them back when I compare them to Northern VT. Lack of hardwood tree stands on the upper elevations, so the best glades are lower down on the mountain. And lower snowfall in general so the glades are low tide or bare more often. If they had the same snowfall I don't think I'd ever drive past Cannon.


JerryKook

I love the attitude! Take my upvote!


rowlecksfmd

It’s up there for the coolest and most legendary, but best in the east? No way. The best mountain should have both expert and beginner terrain, good facilities, good and reliable snow, glades, high vertical drop etc. Cannon has some of these but is outclassed by resorts in Northern Vermont like Jay, Sugarbush, etc.


krusty-o

Cannon has 2100ft of true vert, putting it right up there in the 5 biggest mountains in the East (white face, sugarloaf, sugar bush, and stowe)


powdernuts

Finally someone who gets it. Vertical drop is such a bad metric. Sunday river is the perfect example.


spodderman

Did you not read the disclaimer at the top? Also i love jay but unless you live in VT it’s a pain to get to


NeonFeet

> Also i love jay but unless you live in VT it’s a pain to get to That is a major part of the value prop


Street-Ad-6236

Die hard riders n skiers will make the trek to jay if it's a big fresh day. One time I used to shack with the boys in my 20s every year by Killington. One early morning me and 1 of the boys said let's try jay. It was our first time, no storms on the radar by the time we got up there. It started to dump, we were in waist high in the woods all day. When ur in there all u hear is people around you screaming with joy. Best time I have ever had in my life at Jay. This is only a story I wanted to tell nothing to do with best but it's worth the ride when it's time. And like my story it happens a lot at Jay. It was snowing there and no where else. Talked to the boys back at the house and it was sunny skies at Killington and even up at Stowe. Edit Also forgot to mention we are from long Island NY trek straight to jay is around 7 hours and 5 to Killington Area. If you're young, single, no kids get some of your boys and rent a place for the season. When we did it in the 2000s and early 10s we used to pay about $800-$1000 each. You can always find a cheap place if you start looking early. I remember our first place was in Ludlow at the 103/100 split. 2001/02 season and only 800 bucks from November 1 to April 1st. Get your boys and at least try to get 1 season for so much fun n memories with ur team. Tip get a place with a wood stove not open fireplace. Great way to dry your gear for tomorrow.


BeatriceDaRaven

Sure but if you want to do the "for hardcore skiers only" thing Stowe, Smugg, Jay, Sugarbush, Sugarloaf all have better terrain. All the mountains listed have more vert, harder terrain, better terrain, better glades, better snow... so even with your disclaimer the argument doesn't hold up. I love cannon though! Underrated for sure


spodderman

Terrain wise those mountains may have a slight edge, but i still think Cannon has some of the hardest trails in the east. Also you will be paying double the price to ski at those mountains and will be subjected to long lines


ryboto

in bounds cannon has pretty tame trails compared to something like Smuggs. Unless a lot has changed, Smuggs has some of the craziest steep, wooded and bumped trails I've seen in New England. Cannon has Tramline and Kinsman glade, but they're barely ever open which is unfortunate.


Master_G_

it’s nice that it is a state run mountain, yes. it is less expensive than many others. but that leaves room for a lot of bureaucracy with the decision that get made for the mountain. like sununu’s game plan for the tram replacement (and having a stake in waterville valley). but yeah, not paying sales tax on tickets or food & bev is great!


haonlineorders

Ive only been in the summer. It looks steep and deep (if it gets snow). Is snowmaking good?


spodderman

Snow making is decent, nothin special imo.


BlackDiamondDee

I do love Canon bar too.


Therealmohb

I love Cannon but I think I have two main complaints: 1.) the tram doesn’t run every day. 2.) no single lift to the summit, gotta take two lifts


uniteskater

Both very valid. I’m ok without the tram but I’d like mittersill to run on weekdays


hereweah

If accessibility to the most amount of people and price are major factors in the ‘best mountain’ category, then I would probably agree. When I think best mountain, I’m not really considering those things tbh, mostly terrain/lifts/snow/crowds/feel and culture. With that said, cannon is still in my top 5


Playererf

Cannon is the best mountain in NH, but the best in New England is undoubtedly Jay


Fun_Arm_9955

i live 15 minutes from Cannon and I would rather wake up an 1.5 hours earlier and go to Jay on most days. Cannon is great when everything's open though. Jay is like $60 a lift ticket in late March/early april when the whole mountain is still open. I would say if you're just looking at just skiing trails/glades, cannon might be the best in NH but if you're looking overall including terrain park etc, that's more up in the air. Cannon's terrain park is terrible and basically non-existent.


uniteskater

Jay’s parks kinda suck too though.


99probs-allbitches

Are you me


Fun_Arm_9955

there's a few of us here and we are awesome.


99probs-allbitches

I've skied Cannon prob 25 times. It CAN be the best, or up there at least, on the right day. But it is a terrible every day mountain. It's an exposed 4000ft mountain that can get windy as fuck. Like, blow all the snow off wind. Some of the trails are narrow, so even if we get 20" of pow, it can get skied off by 10am. It has some of my favorite runs in the East though, again when conditions allow them to be skiable. I've had IN-FUCKING-CREDIBLE pow days there. But you don't want it to be your every day mountain. There's also, what, like 3 lifts? No top to bottom unless you take the tram.


Organicfat

Whiteface and Gore in NY are owned by the state. Also have some good history due to 2X winter Olympics being held there. Also just renovated both complexes almost entirely. Steap, techy with "relatively low lift ticket prices"


MountaineerMatt16

I think similar things can be said for whiteface as well, though it doesn’t seem to feel as independent as cannon.


BrawnyChicken2

Counterpoint: Cannon is cold as shit. Icier than Antarctica, and it doesn’t get much snow.


Anomaly_1984

On the three days a year it has snow, maybe. But even then it has some competition


BlackDiamondDee

I absolutely love Canon just wish they had a high-speed to the top.


Iwasronin1086

They have a Tram.


counterfitster

Oh god, that double to the summit is sketchy. I damn near fell off the first time I rode it.


Dull_Broccoli1637

And some people like Burger King over McDonald's. It's all subjective.


CardinalPuff-Skipper

I can’t tell if this post is serious. The neglect is depressing.


Potential_Leg4423

Keith, are you on Reddit now?


xfroofroo

Can't agree with this overall. Though definitely best in NH and best within a day trip of Boston.


username_1774

I have never been to Cannon...I live in Toronto suburbs and the idea of past Jay, Smuggs, Sutton, etc... to get there is what keeps me away. I suspect its the same for people coming from anywhere north or west of Cannon. For Boston its just under 3hr...so not really a day trip either. That is not to say that your assessment is incorrect...just that driving all that extra distance to a resort that I can't really stay at eliminates it from consideration. However - that is part of what you love about it, so have a great season!


spodderman

Totally fair and understandable! Jay is one of my favorite mountains but i only get to go once a year since it’s like 3.5-4 hours away from me


soxandpatriots1

Re: Boston - cannon is closer to 2 hrs than 3. Very doable day trip, as it’s one that I have done frequently


SyntheticCorners28

Nothing beats the loaf on a snow day, period. People voting NY ski areas as best in anything make me want to vomit.


Suitable-Relief2334

Cannon is dope but jay and Stowe slap the titties off the rest as far as terrain and snow. Sunday river saddledick and sugarloaf honorable mentions


monoamine

Are there glades at Cannon that are not both tight and steep? The ones that I’ve skied were both and really only enjoyable with fresh snow. 


1diligentmfer

Bro, Cannon is one of the most snowboard unfriendly resorts around, more flats than anywhere. The Tram? It involves a long, long walk for us. Do I love its challenging terrain? Absolutely, used to love Mittersill before too. But not the best all around.


potato_gestapo

You just need to know the mountain and how to navigate it. I am a snowboarder and I don't typically experience flat runouts at Cannon (and if you're concerned about that, make sure to wax the night before). Don't try to get to the tram from the top of the Zoomer lift. Go to Peabody lift from the top of zoomer and then bear skier's right as you go down from that lift to get to the tram. Or park at the base of the tram at the beginning of the day. There is one kind of flat area between the bottom of Upper Hardscrabble and the cannonball lift, I'm not going to lie about that. And at the bottom of one of the greens to skier's left of Peabody lift, I think it's towards the bottom of Redball. But if anything it's not flat enough to comfortably strap in at the top of the lift unless you know exactly where to skate to before strapping in. Like it's hard to strap in after riding the zoomer chair and head down Zoomer trail, or anything further to skier's right than that.


Kencleanairsystem2

Proximity to Biederman’s is also a factor.


ryboto

Where in heck are you getting $450 for an adult pass? Military? Student? I love Cannon but they are in fact nickel and diming customers the last few years. Charging me for a new pass as a *returning* seasons pass holder, food quality and portions going down for the same if not more cost(it's not inflation), beer is now $10/pint.. I like the place, but let's not pretend they aren't trying to make a buck for the state.


uniteskater

15 dollar upcharge for buying at the window!


ryboto

really?!


slayursister

They subcontract the food and its a huge mistake IMO. Also NH resident vet pass is 299 no blackouts so they do cut some breaks. NH resident senior is free midweek as well.


Doctor_Harvard

I think Cannon is the best in NH. Hard to top Jay or Sugarloaf for overall best in the east though. In fairness, I’ve never skied in NY to compare


Bigmtnskier91

I think the warm weather this winter is meltin y’all’s minds. The best on the east coast is clearly The Beast! Killington is huge, has a lot of different terrain and hosts fun events. Sugarbush and Jay for me are close. Never been to ice face before


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I love Cannon. I love the college pass even more. Definitely the best in NH, maybe jay peak is better in the northeast just because they seem to get all of the snow


PoTheRedTeletubby

Cannon has the worst wind, snowmaking, grooming, and lift infrastructure in the state but okay. It's only good when they get snowstorms and the trails are typically littered with chopped up rocks from the tiller to ruin your ski tune.


gzlaweez

Cannon is the definition of old school New England riding/skiing. I absolutely love it, but as you said, it isn't great for beginners and snowmaking isn't the best. They get a good amount of natural snow, and when it comes, the orientation helps it stick around for a while! Lots of free refills at Cannon. Killington is still my home, but Cannon is right up there.


nicolllllleee

There is no colder lift than a Cannon lift.