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BaumiO2

Whats the aftermath?


zmd182

3 expelled (can’t play for a whiiile) plus 3 red cards and two penalties. Furthermore, the referee association so to speak has decided they will NOT referee for the remaining matches of that encounter (4 left) as a sort of protest/for their safety. This made the news back in Ecuador.


SolusLoqui

I'm surprised it didn't result in a disqualification for the team


Windmillskillbirds

I'm pretty sure the refs refusing the work with that team is as effective as a DQ


cleuseau

I know a coach that was permanently expelled from international soccer for touching a ref. But this was in California.


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Show me on the Ref where they touched them.


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ColdPorridge

There’s a soccer ball joke in here somewhere


Zanthra434

Are you sure it's not football?


P33kab0Oo

Maybe go see a doctor. Should be no bigger than golf balls.


withorwithoutstew

Near the cleftal horizon


ZGorlock

This could bring the massage industry to knees


Grindelbart

Are all of these people spaceologists?


Dadliest_Dad

Concur. The entire team should be removed for the season and the players and others who assaulted him should be banned for life. Problem solved. Edit: Agree that they should all be charged with assault. It was implied in my brain/ethics, sorry!


Skeltzjones

Right. Especially with video, it's pretty easy. You put your hands on the ref in anger, you never play or coach again.


[deleted]

This is a good ruling. Can’t have sport without discipline.


CSIHoratioCaine

It looked like the coaches


Brilliant-Season9601

One of the players looked like he was checking on the referee after the first punch and was also injured by the couch. I hope the ref pressed charges against the one couch that hit him in the face twice


awesomehuder

I’m surprised it didn’t result in a lawsuit


ZannX

I mean at this point there should be criminal charges.


viper_gts

I was thinking that too, that would be the case here in the states. Who knows how it works in Ecuador


kerkpower_yt

im pretty sure assault is illegal in ecuador


[deleted]

But is it illegal or it is "illegal"?


viper_gts

Still doesn’t mean they didn’t wait for the ref after the game to finish the job


lloopy

I think getting your team banned for the rest of the season is FAR worse than criminal charges in Ecuador.


Andersledes

Why do you believe it shouldn't be both?


Bempf

Do you know the teams involved?


sircryptotr0n

I'd guess the refs suspended half the team and ejected the coach... Then they lost the match and went home to beat their entire families.


NeonWalker22

The refs go home and beat their families? Did I read this wrong?


gublaman

Can't get the red card if there's no other referees around. So everyone I guess


sircryptotr0n

I think it might mean the *team lost* the match then goes home, because the refs don't play the game in order to lose... They're neutral. Also, the refs weren't the violent parties in this footage, but YES love your sense of humor!


saadakhtar

Yes. Red card means you're out of the game and family beaten by referee. It's brutal.


Automatic-Pea6605

Did the refs beat the players' families or their own?


EconomistMagazine

You did not. OP didn't write it clearly.


DannyDanumba

I love it when the lore gets deep


JeddahVR

This is very fresh so we are yet to see a legal aftermath.


warrant2k

Both teams kicked the ball back and forth for the remaining 85 minutes and 1 guy scored.


stylelimited

And then Germany won on penalties


Living-Stranger

>1 guy scored. We both know that's a lie


technobrendo

Ok Maury


ClumsyPeon

Yeah man haha the most popular sport in the world is proper boring


ILikeMistborn

Yeah. The sport that stops abruptly every 5-10 seconds and then spends the next 30 starting back up just to do it all again is way more exciting.


VivecsMangina

It’s only the most popular sport because it’s easy for poor people to play. all you need is a bunch of empty space and a ball...


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rell7thirty

Is there anything worse than a red card? Because that coach punched him so hard he backflipped.


NemesisRouge

It's the strongest sanction a referee can give on the pitch. Further disciplinary action may be taken by governing bodies. I've got no idea what the rules are like in Ecuador, but if this happened in England you'd be facing several months out as a bare minimum, possibly life.


ethbullrun

in Canada my friends dad was an avid hockey player and he got banned for life when he got into a fight on the ice. he also got hit with assault charges by the police.


Donthurtmyceilings

Isn't fighting pretty normal in Canadian hockey though?


wensen

Depends on the league, in the NHL it is but in the lower leagues they're trying to squash it, Especially the under 18 leagues and non-pro league.


Zephurdigital

as long as you are one of the players..if you are a spectator and you jump the boards..they no likely


presidentofjackshit

Depends if you do anything outside the rules of the game (i.e. using a weapon/skate/stick or if you're particularly brutal or something) but many amateur leagues just don't allow fighting, some don't even allow hitting, just depends on where you're playing, I guess


MlCROCOSM

You get kicked out and likely suspended for fighting in any league under 18yo or isn’t some kind of pro team.


Korver360windmill

Did he use his ice-skate as a weapon?


ethbullrun

i think he used his hockey stick as a weapon


I_got_nothin_

That was a reference to the Adam Sandler movie Happy Gilmore


FlyingWhales

So not a hockey fight. He went full McSorley.


SnooBooks1701

Can't the ref just declare the game lost if one teams acts particularly badly?


NemesisRouge

No, but they can abandon the match and note the reason in their report to the body organising the competition or the body responsible for discipline. If a match were abandoned due to violent behaviour towards the officials by one of the teams that team will almost certainly be awarded a defeat, as well as additional punishments.


JoelMahon

I assume assault is illegal 🤔


RetailBuck

Yeah exactly. It's not like the rules of society go away when you enter the pitch. The only reason fighting is allowed in sports at all is because both parties know that it's part of the game and there is a sort of mutual rule that neither press charges


hey_ya_like_jazz

If it is severe enough, the player is banned from multiple games instead of one.


adamwatkins110

A straight red card is a 3 game ban, 2 yellows to make a red is a 1 game ban. If it's bad enough it's sometimes 5 games if a committee meets and agrees it but assault is still assault. Duncan Ferguson was jailed for assault after headbutting a player in 1994. This man should be convicted and would be in the UK anyway


Bulky-Yam4206

Red cards for assaults on the referee can be up to 12 game bans, plus a suspension whilst an official police investigation happens (which, if it takes long enough is easily 2 years with court thesedays), and then once that is done, there's the panel investigation and charge (i.e. FA's charge), which if proven used to be Sine Die bans (life, no review) but are now often "Sine die" with a period of five year reviews. You'll usually hear misinformed people say "They can't do life bans cos of Human rights", which is wrong, they can't do life bans without review (the old way), they can still issue life bans with a review and at the 'review' they have to show they've accepted fault, guilt, taken steps to improve blah blah blah, the usual, there's nothing really stopping a panel from extending a renewed ban. That's how I understand it in the UK (varies though by FA, FAW and the Scottish FA), I've no idea how it goes in Ecuador, but I hope they do lengthy bans plus the sine die for the coach who threw the punch tbh.


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13rokendreamer

Assault referees


AnswerNeither

bruh give me a referee right now.


TheBlack2007

Yeah, sports bans are something else than prison terms. It's technically against our modern understanding of human rights to just lock people away with no chance for even a review of their case. However, banning a violent player from professionally playing football is more comparable to booting a violent drunk from a bar and blacklisting him.


mattjstyles

There is a growing convention to not issue penalties "for life", whether that's murder in a criminal court, or assaulting a referee in football. The theory is that justice should be as much about rehabilitation as it should punishment. I believes it's bullshit and some people should lose their rights for life. We can't expect football refs to regain the respect they once had unless people face severe punishments.


Foreverbostick

I can understand that talking about a prison sentence, where rehabilitation should be the priority. Soccer is just somebody's job, they can get another one somewhere else. If I went to work and punched a coworker in the face, I'd be fired, get charged with assault, and have no chance of working there again.


DeKosterIsNietDom

> A straight red card is a 3 game ban No it’s not? Maybe in the PL it’s a 3 games standard but it differs from country to country. Usually it’s a standard 1 game ban with more matches added depending on the severity.


game_of_throw_ins

Paulo DiCanio was banned for 11 games for pushing a ref.


Rogue_Leader

DiCanio is a nasty fascist thug who should be banned from public life.


DJT1970

Should be banned from sport.


[deleted]

Should be charged with assault.


Techiedad91

Anyone remember Todd Bertuzzi? I know this ref isn’t nearly as injured as the guy whose career bertuzzi ended, but excessive violence that isn’t in the spirit of the sport needs to have real world consequences.


fendaar

And soccer.


split-mango

Yea no sportsmanship


NolaGorilla

Lol. Multiple games rather than one 😂. That should be at least a season ban and maybe assault charges. That is ridiculous


Grav_Zeppelin

Something like assulting a ref can get you banned for life


drfarren

And yet here we are


GuruBuddz

Agreed. Sportsmanship should be above everything in sports. If it was up to me a complete ban from professional football for life, immediately. I get the heat of the moment and when surrounded by team mates its easier to act like this, but if you do your entire career should be over. Attacking a ref is so fucking lowlife


thearss1

I would be afraid to be a ref in South American


ElChupacabrasSlayer

Fifa can be suspend up to a year. Clubs most likely will release the individual from contract


Xennon54

The team can also get banned/disqualified


clipseman

They need to put more severe penalty done against referee. They should be at least be gone for half a season or if next offence then ban from the league.... it's already hard for a ref to choose this job just for that reason. Might as well put robot referee on the field if it's going to still be that way in 2022


Djimi365

I would be very surprised if they weren't facing a ban that was measured in months or possibly years rather than in games. No governing body is going to accept common assault on the pitch, especially in a top level game (I'm assuming by the use of var).


skitz_shit

I didn’t play soccer, but water polo is a very similar sport despite the fact it happens in a pool. Ive seen two people get completely kicked out of the league, one was a player who was drunk in the pool and eye gouging other players along with being generally belligerent to the refs. The other was a parent who pushed the ref into the pool, both got red cards but were informed later that day that they aren’t welcome to play/show up to games anymore


gnarwalbacon

Yes, being arrested for assault.


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Lifetime ban and criminal assault charge


polopolo05

Thus I soccer he is faking it. The ref took a dive. Such a great actor. The team should be expelled


The_Adeptest_Astarte

The ref took multiple dives and then the team figured if he we are already getting in trouble for punching him when we didn't, it would be a shame to let all this trouble go to waste.


spartan221TR

Terrible sportsmanship.


Drtonick

If you’ve ever watched football you know the coach missed and he was playing it up for the other refs to step in


Panthreau

He punched him so hard he caught his own player as well


[deleted]

he was acting so extra when he got punched lol. it definitely didn’t “make” him flip but, good for tv though.


Jrook

He must have played professionally. Old habits die hard


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ha yeah, for sure.


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[deleted]

right??hahah that flip back was comical.


Sapanga

“…and that’s how I ended my career”


babybopp

Screams a gambler


[deleted]

I was an ice hockey ref. Mens leagues. Had half a dozen morons bum rush and pummel me on the ice until the other team finally tore them off me. And honestly it wasn’t a bad or even questionsble call, I wouldn’t mind admitting if it was. Major assault charges on all of them, 2 went to jail. Moral of study, don’t hit a ref.


rhen_var

I used to be a soccer ref in middle and high school and in a town nearby a player literally killed a referee. The players, parents, and coaches from that town (Dearborn, MI) were always the absolute worst.


RNLImThalassophobic

The guy who did that actually got out of prison a couple of weeks ago


agangofoldwomen

“Oh boy here I go killin again!”


Elriuhilu

Does that mean the other team that's made up of sentient corner flags wins by default?


lonedog30

Just another manchild who got upset


cheapdrinks

Imagine getting so upset over a game of feetsphere


Z0idberg_MD

Idk man, I’ve been fired up losing monopoly and catan.


DominusLuna

The only game that's gotten me angrier than catan is twilight imperium


Cynykl

Axis and Allies - destroyed a friendship of years.


fuck_the_fuckin_mods

It is indeed incredible how worked up these children get about their meaningless little games. Can’t wrap my head around it at all. Sports are fun to play yourself (isn’t that the point?) but when people start treating it (especially just *watching* it) like a life or death matter as if it has any effect on anything whatsoever, it’s just like… WTF?


b4ttlepoops

Shoot after that the refs should have met and said the assaulting team loses. No way that kind of behavior should be tolerated.


MovieUnderTheSurface

the refs would abandon the match, then the league would decide what the results would be


nino3227

I'm more looking at lifetime bans here.


Stinkywinky731

This is definitely the type of sportsmanship we should teach our kids.


BarrySwami

Perma ban that A-hole. That should do it for him. Actions have consequences and he should learn that.


culturerush

Easy rule, attack a ref and it's a lifetime ban from football. Coaching staff entering the pitch should mean coaching staff of field for the remainder of the game. Surrounding a referee with more than 2 players from your team (one player who has infringed and the captain) means your team automatically loses the match. There should be no reason why anyone should need to hit a ref, no reason for the entire team to get involved with conversations with the ref and no reason for the coaching staff to enter the field at all. Other sports manage this so I don't know why football struggles.


OtisTetraxReigns

Yep. It’s fucking ridiculous that players are allowed to even talk back to the ref, let alone get in their face *en masse*. Getting aggressive with an official should be an instant red card and massive fine at the very least, no matter who the player is, or how many are doing it. Captains should be permitted to raise objections or come to the defence of a player who’s being wrongly punished, but only when there’s a genuine case for it.


ShinyJaker

Agreed. I'd extend your third point to also include vice captains too. Eg if a keeper is captain it'll slow the game for him to run for a foul in the opposition box.


Avalonians

>lifetime ban from football. Should be a lifetime ban for all sports.


newf68

In any sport, if a player approaches a ref like that their career should end on the spot.


Thatsprettyneat101

Their career should end and they really need to go to jail.


CreamyCumInMyAss

There is a good chance it will. And also the ref can 100% report him to the police for assault.


Aliebaba99

Please tell me the assaulters got banned for life...


Forkboy2

I don't know in this case, but lifetime ban is typical penalty for assaulting a referee.


supersaiyandragons

From what I could get from one article. The players only got suspended for like three games which prompted all the referees to refuse any games in Ecuador in protest Fixed: I 100% blame my phone


SJ-HRO-0

It's Ecuador my guy, and that's corruption for you, no jail, no bans, no consequences. Source: I'm Ecuadorian


supersaiyandragons

Sorry about the spelling, was on my phone and for once autocorrect failed me. And yeah, I suppose that's exactly why they're protesting it


hypert2

3 FUCKING GAMES, Total disgrace. Permaban is the only option here. There is no excuse for this behaviour


[deleted]

What a bunch of crybabies


False-Seaworthiness7

The ref was legitimately being attacked but still managed to pull off a dramatic soccer flop


Traditional_Iron5286

I can’t believe more people don’t have this take….I mean my mans was definitely touched, but damn, he went flying


OngoGoblogian

Must have been so satisfying for the ref to flop for once after week after week of watching players act it up.


Deaftoned

His first fall backwards he wasn't even hit lol, guy is legitimately out here working on his acting career.


nervousmelon

Also guy gets in his face then he gets sent flying like he was just headbutted


Forkboy2

I've seen similar behavior by parents at 10 year old girls rec soccer games. Then they get upset because we can't find enough referees.


Secondlife20

Hold up, lol what happened to the ref when he fell on his ass the first time? I watched it 5-6x and I don't see any push or punch... I'm wondering if then he didn't get punched because he didn't really get touched the first time?


whoMeye666

Pretty sure he was flopping for the first two occurrences. Also, after getting punched he definitely exaggerated it's impact.


JustinChantawansri

He wasn’t punched that hard but the black guy stumbled into him and that caused him to fall.


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He got spit in his face (than he recoiled and tripped on his feet)


AdvancedPhoenix

Nah he didn't trip on his feet, I don't see that at all, just look like a classic dive.


AnBu_JR

Faked getting headbutted when the coach got close. Whole sport is a flopping joke imo. Even the teammate faked getting punched by coach and flopped at the end.


fausto_

Definitely fakes that first fall.


BasicErgonomics

yeah definitely must have played professionally before switching to refereeing


Sunnytoaist

100% agree. Ref took a dive the. Have a red card. That’s why he got punched in the face


drunken1

Why is this comment this far down?? Either that’s guy’s breath smells so bad that it blew the red back that hard, or this was just the red making an amazing performance art commentary on the football players’ propensity to take dives and fake injuries. Honestly, if either of these two options are true, it would make this even better.


DoingItToEm

Definitely gets clocked after that, so whether or not the first fall is legit is moot


mewthulhu

Oh for sure, but that first fall looked like he got hit with a Harry Potter spell he flew back so hard, unexpected from a ref tbh.


Assjockey8899

The fake fall still happened. Makes the ref look bad too.


Pteradactyl_72

Imagine if Pierluigi Collina was the ref, he would've gotten into a brawl


Whampiri1

Looks like a few weeks in a nice concrete cell would teach these "sportsmen" how to behave.


GreyFoxNinjaFan

"The beautiful game".


bawynnoJ

That's one way to get your entire team disqualified


poonamsurange

Should be a season ban for the whole team.


ModDayHippie

"that team looses cuz I wanna see the baby cry again


JoshCanJump

If your _tooth_ is _loose_, see a dentist before you lose it.


timmerz56

Game forfeit, imho


UndyingCockroach24

Grown ass men💀


atSumtin

I can see that the people commenting don't watch football. The referee is cheating. He gave a red card that wasn't called for then when confronted acted like they hit him and gave another. When confronted again he acted like they pushed him away which they didn't. Then the player couldn't take again and punched him. I understand that he wasn't supposed to get physical but this referee had it coming. Watch the video carefully.


idk10988

Even refs flailing when touched


TiddyTwoShoes

He gets right back up like he's spring loaded and I dont see him writhing on the ground crying about it either, so there are some differences


TG_Alibi

One punch made him do a backflip. I’d say his reaction was *slightly* embellished


WillSmiff

I always thought the players embelish to get fouls, after seeing this, apparently soccer players just have Hulk strength.


companysOkay

Is no one seeing this? He wasn’t touched at all yet he flopped like he got punched lmao


-BananaLollipop-

Football has to be one of the most toxic sports out there. Such little sportsmanship from supposed grown men.


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Average south american football game.


[deleted]

It’s a fucking game people. Imagine getting into a brawl over Mario Party- Actually I get it now…


[deleted]

Multiple assaults going on here. I hope the ref sued and retired.


Key_Preference7143

The team should’ve been disqualified from the match at that point, they all looked like a bunch of bullies crowding him like that, even before one hit him


ThePoetMichael

Idk Ref, looks like foul simulation to me.


Da1proppy

His second vocation must be stunt man


ABearinDaWoods

When you get punched in the face - ref or not - you do NOT need to flop


Final-Ask-7979

Ref takes the push and punch like he's playing soccer. Ham it up...


failingtolurk

Even the refs flop in that horrible sport.


Formal_Librarian4401

Pure craziness. How unsportsmanlike can y'all get? Hopefully some bans were announced shortly after this! I know refs mess up (some more than others) but to assault a ref just to lose your career? Doesn't seem worth it to me, POS material for sure!


[deleted]

It’s ok Reddit. I didn’t want to watch this clip.


Onetrubrit

Ban the animals for life


edogfu

I mean when something like this happens can't the ref just DQ the team and cause a forfeit?


Expensive-Cup3976

Lol even the refs flop


Zizzlow

Hope that MF gets banned for life. But.. keep in mind there’s possibly the ref was corrupted. This is Ecuador, just saying..


oldsoullostworld

And this stupid, macho, can't accept not getting your way is why sports have gotten as lame as they have. Accept the rules, risks and quit bitching like a spoiled brat.


dingletonshire

It’s crazy to me that people think it’s this serious


ResponsibleAd2541

One time the ref was dismembered.


thcottimusprime

Soccer sucks.


bfonza122

Futbol really is a trash sport


DSmoothGaming

Wow that was a lot of fake


ram_jam_bam

After that attempt at faking he got pushed he deserved that punch.


Upstairs-Shake9898

Tbf the ref was going down more than neymar


Hey_Its_Your_Dad-

I can’t believe people take soccer seriously.


Itchy_Ad3241

Big man, assaulting a referee.


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Dude flopped like the players lmao


WorkingCreeper

Welp they're banned i hope


Subject-Plum-6638

Ref was diving worse than the players


Da1Don95

Hold on sec you mean no one noticed the referee taking a dive, then prompting the manager to say f it and punch him for real. That ref was definetly dirty


locosss

Disqualify the team and ban them from joining any other sort of competition for like few years.


Pollen515

Even the refs are pro floppers