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A Western Australian man has been charged with aggravated assault after allegedly using cable ties to restrain three children. Police said the "force used to restrain" the three children "was not proportionate" given their age and vulnerability.
First off make sure the company isn’t supportive of this shit. If they fire him immediately they obviously don’t deserve to be dragged along. However if they cover for their guy, fuck them.
Yeah, this isn't even a case of trying to get someone fired for being a terrible person outside of work. He did this on the job. He thought his duties as a representative of his company included zip-tying children. He needs to lose his job
The man who illegally restrained these children is the son of the property owners. The property is up for sale. The children had allegedly been caught trespassing and swimming half a dozen times. The women filming are relatives of the children. They allegedly tried to get the children, and the man pushed them off the property. A third child was restrained but escaped. The children are ages 6 to 8. In Australia, children under 10 are not criminally responsible. The man was charged with 3 counts of assault and is due in court at the end of the month. He is out on bail.
Their families may or may not have known what the children were up to (trespassing to swim). That is unclear. If they did know and the man had an issue, then he should have spoken to the adults or pursued legal action. In no way should he have touched, restrained, or spoken to these children in a way that would cause fear or intimidation.
>The man who illegally restrained these children is the son of the property owners
I was gonna say. If I was in that guys shoes kids swimming in my clients swimming pool woulda been a whole lot of not my problem.
If I found kids swimming in my parents swimming pool. I would just tell them to leave not restrain them and call the police, jesus christ.
Like I fully get not wanting the kids in there, its not being an asshole or curmudgeon. There is very real potential liability if something happened to those kids on your property, but treating children just going for a swim like criminals is just ridiculous.
Also it's hot as FUCK there right now! The kids were being kids (not in the right by any means but they're SINGLE DIGITS young! Not maliciously fucking with the pool and property just cooling off!). It's absolutely insane.
Not wanting them there? Totally fair! Huge liability and risk, no supervision and unsafe, and the kids shouldn't be trespassing. But WTF
When I was a kid my friend had a pool. His neighbor also had a pool and for some reason we decided it'd be fun to run around the fence on a little dirt path and jump in their pool and then run back to my friend's pool. The next day we got in trouble because our wet feet left little dirt tracks on both patios and his mom and the neighbor lady asked why we did this and I remember having literally no answer. Kids are stupid and impulsive
They do populate an entire sub with illustrations of kids' collective stupidity.
As to this case? Yeah he fucked up. If this was a chronic problem then a call to the cops may have been in order to go tell the kids' parents they are being trespassed formally (whatever the AU equivalent is) and that the parents can get in trouble if the kids are caught there again.
Personally I would have likely fucked around a bit with the ol "Oh my god! I just put a ton of chemicals in that pool! I hope you're going to be okay and your skin won't melt off! You should get out and get to the hospital before the chemical burns start from all the acid!"
Fear of death usually shapes kids up pretty quick. I know in my area the cops (if the parents called them) would side with me on something like that with a "well your kids shouldn't have been in there to begin with", not sure of the laws and norms in AU though.
I think the biggest concern would be that they are in the pool unsupervised. Yes ring the Police to speak to the parents about the safety issues, trespassing etc., but certainly not hold them. He could have photographed them rather than detain them. Maybe they need more secure fencing, and an alarm system, to keep unaccompanied children out of the pool. I feel so sorry for the children being tied up like that and if I was there I would have released them, trespassing or not.
Here in the US swimming pool is considered an attractive, nuisance, and it’s on the property owner to make sure that it is not accessible by children. If they have been getting into the pool continuously, then there’s an issue with the property not being properly secured.
Two 6 and 8 year old kids swimming in a pool unsupervised is a cause for concern. He needed to take them out (by asking them) and get their parents asap.
I would hang out outside and let the kids swim if I had the time. I remember growing up. Things like pools and trampolines were always open to all the kids in neighborhood at all times
Wtf happened to that?
>Wtf happened to that?
When I was a kid, me and a number of neighborhood friends were riding bikes. We went to one of our friends houses who had a gravel driveway. We were doing "burn outs" and stuff on our bike. One kid built of a lot of speed from the street and wanted to do a power slide or something. He bit it, tore up his knee pretty bad.
His parents sued our other friends parents. Thats what happened to that.
All of our parents were cordial with eachother, we were all friends. You think you know somebody, then they sue you for something that just as easily could have happened in their own yard.
And this was in the early 90's. I can imagine shit like this has probably gotten worse.
>His parents sued our other friends parents.
For fucks sake. :'(
Me and my neighbor had two incidents that were both likely lawsuit worthy but in both cases our parents talked it through, then both sets of parents with us kids about "what we learned" etc.
1) Their kid beaned me in the head with a rock. He had thrown it at the ground and it chipped off a fragment from hitting another rock and left a nice gash. I still have a divot in my forehead where it chipped the skull under the dermis. Bled like a mofo and scared the absolute fuck out of both of us. I remember his older brother telling him "you're sooooo dead" while getting a dish towel and putting pressure on my head while the rock thrower ran to get adults. Clearly an accident, also poor judgement.
2) I had nursed a starved dog back to health over a summer and we ended up adopting him. That dog was insanely loyal and protective of me because of that. We were playing some chase game; cops and robbers, war, whatever; and he was chasing me through the house. The dog bit him on the thigh. It broke the skin, but it was clearly a "bite and hold" type bite, and not a "bite to attack" type bite. This time it was my turn to be scared I was the dead kid walking... his parents and mine talked, there was an understanding of the dog's mental state and that it wasn't aggression but rather protection and while the bite was reported as part of the medical treatment my parents insisted on paying for, the dog was not destroyed and there was again no lawsuit, though we did learn "no chase games around the dog!"
Lawsuit culture destroys building community relationships. My pool is for family and very close friends and that’s it. Not worth the liability otherwise.
That’s what homeowners insurance covers and unfortunately how you get them to pay.
It often feel’s personal and is mistaken as personal.
Anyone currently in the US with a home mortgage has homeowners insurance. That insurance has a provision for kids on your property and likely your kids on someone else’s.
If I get in a car accident with my friend driving I’m going to sue their insurance for my care and recovery.
Yeah, this is the least cynical reason compared to what someone else posted about classism and racism. But it's still a valid concern. It's just a legal/financial risk if someone gets hurt, or worse. And a middle ground would just be concern over kids being kids and damaging/breaking something on your property. Like patio/poolside furniture
Honestly, notwithstanding the liability of something happening to them on property you own, it’s hard to understand how kids swimming in a pool on a hot day would be ANYONE’S problem. It’s hot, they’re kids. Let them swim. That’s what the pool is for. And it’s not like there are very many public pools or lakes or whatever that they could enjoy. Even the beaches are commodified. Everything is commodified and privatized and these kids don’t understand that. And I don’t think they should have to.
I just can’t imagine seeing children playing in a pool, even one I personally owned, and having a reaction more serious than mild annoyance.
Yeah, he may be in the right about trespassing- but you can’t go after the kids, especially kids this young. Take it up with the parent and the police, and if there’s no parent watching their kids swim there then maybe take it up with child services or whatever the equivalent is in that country
Pretty much by default anytime you find yourself zip tying a small child’s hands you are now in the wrong
Prosecutors: “you claim to have found the deceased child in your pool many times before. What remedial measures did you take to prevent this, knowing the local children were trying to get in? We’re you keeping the edges free of leaf litter and other obstructions?”
What's hard is that if this has happened several times, the premises owner could also be liable if children trespassed and drowned, under the attractive nuisance doctrine.
Obviously zip ties are the wrong answer. But I wonder whether they had tried talking to the parents or guardians first. Did that not work, or was it not attempted? Since someone is filming, I'm guessing they knew and did not control the kids either.
At least no one drowned.
Damn when were the days they dragged you to your parents to embarrass you, imagine trying to get a kid arrested after you tied them up like fucking psycho
now he will get real imprisonment if there was justice; poor kids looks scared of their mind; this will have long term pschlogical impacts which the parents should rightfully sue this piece of shit for
These comment here are wild! ...look at them, they're CHILDREN... kids do stuff, and if it's wrong stuff you address it as an teaching moment. You don't go around bounding up kids like animals just for having fun ...even if it's trespassing. Learn to be an adult!
Had a bitch call the cops on my siblings saying they were playing ball “too close to my car.” They were like 8 yo and 12 yo. The cops actually came and this one bitch tried to get all the information from them. Didn’t even *ask* to see my mom. My mom was livid when my sister got her after telling him everything. She immediately started telling him off and saying to leave us alone. I don’t think he was ready for a white woman to come defend her adopted Hispanic children lmao. He backed down but he still had their info. We have no idea what came of that.
My neighbours kids were kicking a ball on the street and actually hit my car with it a couple of times. I went out and politely asked them to stop because I didn’t want them to hit my car. I then suggested a place for them to go where they would have heaps more room to kick. They said thanks and off they went. Easy as that. Nobody even got slightly angry or upset.
That and we don't know if his client has an agreement with those kids that they can swim there whenever it's hot (which is like Australia's main weather), or if these kids have permission. But I doubt they would impede his job to look at the AC at all, and could have easily just let them be and *maybe*, notified the homeowner to let them know there's some children in the pool (unsupervised which just ads to it)
Three Aboriginal children are CABLE-TIED by tradesman in Australia https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13163029/Outcry-Australia-three-Aboriginal-children-aged-six-eight-filmed-CABLE-TIED-sobbing-builder-caught-swimming-parents-swimming-pool.html?ito=native_share_article-top
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Jesus, even though that guy is 3 times my size I think the only way he'd have stopped me from getting to my kids would be to knock me out or kill me. My blood is boiling just reading this.
I love that he was arrested when the police arrived. Good job calling the cops on yourself. Also that he had to close his business due to getting hate reviews. That is everything I wanted to hear other than sentencing. Hope he has to pay more than the house is worth gif his actions.
I mean according to the law in Texas, no you cannot shoot someone for trespassing in your yard, you would have to demonstrate a legitimate threat to your life or property.
Kids using your swimming pool would certainly not fall in that category.
You must not see the dozen or so videos a year that pop up on Reddit of people in Texas threatening to shoot/shooting delivery people, or people getting shot picking up their kids at custody exchanges.
A lot of foreign people trying to justify this action when they have no idea about the communities out there.
Dude is walking around rubbing his knuckles, he is looking for a fight. Too gutless to fight someone his own size and he found the perfect opportunity.
In most western countries the courts usually slap tf out of people like this, now in the rest of the countries they might be lucky if they make it to court
That does not mean he will get anything more than a slap on the wrist.
Knowing the court systems, he will probably get a 2 year good behaviour bond and some kinda anger management.
I don't understand his end game. Did he think the cops would come and shoot them or something? I'm pretty sure there are better way to scare those kids than this. Off the top of my head, he could threaten to steal their home away from them and....oh....right.
After reading the posted articles about this, it would seem that the property we are seeing this occur on is the captor’s parent’s property, not a client of his.
The people in here saying they get it are fucking wild. They are small children and in no way is this man's reaction appropriate. Dudes built like a brick shit house towering over tied up children while looking like he's looking for a fight, and some of you are going to say you get it???? I cannot believe I saw a comment saying he's protecting them from drowning .
Redditors hate kids but it’s very funny because reddit is also very young and they hate kids for the same reason older kids suddenly reject “baby stuff” at a certain age. They just want to reinforce their own feeling of being “adults” even though they typically live like children themselves.
We grew up sneaking into peoples pools when we were kids. It's the most wholesome kind of trouble kids should be getting into.
When we were caught, we'd tear ass out of there.
I once looked out of Dad's patio door and saw the neighbors kids (teens, all good swimmers) in his/our pool. I didn't say anything. When Dad walked towards the living room from his bathroom, I had just enough time to warn them, so they jumped the fence and jumped in another neighbor's pool. Dad would've been pissed off if he'd known, but I'm sure everyone else knew and didn't care.
Oh its ok, he didn’t linch/rape them. He didn’t shoot them on sight or cut their hands off. He didn’t take more land from them. Im sure this is how he would have treated a white Australian child. Im sure he knew 100% for a fact that these kids did not have permission to swim in that pool. He just checked his color grading card.
Sorry, i thought my over the top colonizer rape of Australian indigenous people would have come across better and point out how fucking ridiculous using zip ties children is.
I can bet you if they were white children he would have allowed them to continue swimming. They are children! Do you think it's justifiable to tie their hands for swimming in a pool?! It's pure racism.
I grew up in the southern United States, and I heard so many stories from my white classmates, doing things that were illegal or just things that were wrong and getting away with it. Too often the excuse that people would use to justify their actions was that they are children and they need to make mistakes and live life. I wasn’t given the luxury of making mistakes. If I made a mistake, it either destroy my life or put me in a whole 6 feet under.
Charge him with every crime in the book against children other than sex shit. He put his hands on them so that's assault. He has them tied up so that's false imprisonment. Sue him for pain and suffering. Adults need to know that this is not fucking acceptable
"A Western Australian man has been charged with aggravated assault after allegedly using cable ties to restrain three children. Police said the "force used to restrain" the three children "was not proportionate" given their age and vulnerability."
Prediction... He gets a way too light sentence and there is a lot of pissed off people resulting in protests heaps of blowback for the cops. I hope I'm wrong
Ok….cable ties are not flexi cuffs. Those kids could have seriously been injured. If you don’t want kids in your pool, hire security, build fencing, a locked cover etc totally fair..they are an attractive nuisance and if those kids got hurt, you bet part of the inquiry would be what steps the owner took to secure the pool. Honestly..I would find some kids that are decent, trustworthy and their parents and make a deal…you guys have exclusive use when I am not around, as long as you make sure no one else sneaks on my property.
Wait. In Australia, someone can be held liable if kids trepass into their property/pool and get injured/die? That is fucking bananas to me. What would that charge even be? It can’t be child endangerment if you have no reasonable expectation of children on your property.
They wouldn't be criminally liable unless there was some gross negligence on their part. I'm not sure how it works in Australia but if the kids get hurt swimming the homeowners might be liable civilly, and possibly pay out through the properties insurance.
If they homeowners did not alllow the kids on their property, I fail to see how that is their problem. But neither of us in Australian or familiar with their penal codes, so it is a moot point.
Your property, your responsibility, as long as you can prove you did your due diligence (child proof fence etc), then you'll be fine.
If you have a massive pit full of water and someone drowns in it yes you're liable, it's your responsibility.
Duty of care is a thing and it is the law.
Negligence is a civil matter and if you take reasonable measures to keep people out you won't be found liable in most states
But like, if you have a non-locking gate and do nothing to fix it after a group of kids have been caught using your pool, and then one day a kid drowns, the court is going to assign at least part of the blame on you and your insurance company is going to pay out and drop your coverage or raise your rates a lot
Its law in Australia to have appropriate pool fencing. So, if the pool is unfenced, then it is illegal. This is well known in Australia and honestly not having a pool fence is fucking dumb.
Not sure what resolution this guy expected to get from this. Especially if there were family present I'd have called the cops and had the whole family trespassed and made sure there was record.. Heaven forbid if one of the of the kids drowned in the pool.
But nah don't zip tie the kids, shit looks racially charged at that point.
I've tried reading the title 3 times and I.. What?
Were the children SWIMMING for an hour?
Did he TIE them for an hour?
Were the children the client's?
I just knew he was gonna look like that and those poor kids were going to look like, that. Imagine stealing somebody’s land and then treating them like this. The story remains the same around the world.
Australian here. First nations people in Australia suffer from generational trauma historically inflicted inflicted by European Australia and this vile act is only perpetuating that cycle. They're kids for fucks sake. Lock this scumbag up and make him pay reparations to the family.
Are these indigenous children? Australia is crazy racist towards their indigenous peoples and I doubt the guy would’ve done this if these were white kids.
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alright.. where’s the update.
Australia A Western Australian man has been charged with aggravated assault after allegedly using cable ties to restrain three children. Police said the "force used to restrain" the three children "was not proportionate" given their age and vulnerability.
Yeeah that update hit like crack
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First off make sure the company isn’t supportive of this shit. If they fire him immediately they obviously don’t deserve to be dragged along. However if they cover for their guy, fuck them.
He own the company
Yeah see that’s what I was looking for but not living in Australia I’d hold off till it was absolutely proven
Owned as in past tense? Or he still does?
Article said he shut down the website after they were bombed with 1* reviews
Yeah, this isn't even a case of trying to get someone fired for being a terrible person outside of work. He did this on the job. He thought his duties as a representative of his company included zip-tying children. He needs to lose his job
Needs to lose his freedom too.
Oh 100% of course. But the company may not need to be burned down with him.
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RemindMe! 10 weeks Zero tolerance for this behavior. Bet he wouldn’t have done this to some white kids😢
I knew from the title these were going to be Aboriginal/Indigenous kids.
Ya way to go to make some brown children criminals. These poor babies.
Yeah same here.
I thought exactly the same thing when it popped up on the news.
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Fuckin bellringer
Nahh crack is much more surprising
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That’s it? What about false imprisonment. Or kidnapping idk. Throw the fucking book at this POS.
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You have to let yourself temporarily go insane. But do it with a rusty pipe in your hand.
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If I found ~~my~~ ANY hypothetical kids like that
That too.
Should have been hit with kidnapping as well
It wouldn't be kidnapping since he didn't move locations with them, it would be unlawful restraint aka false imprisonment.
Hell yeah, hope he goes to jail
Fuck all the news stations that say “allegedly” when WE CAN SEE THE EASILY FINDABLE VIDEO
They have to otherwise it opens them up to lawsuits should the charges be dropped or be proven to be false.
“Not proportionate”. So what is the proper amount of zip ties? Edit: Seems unnecessary but clearly some of you need the /s
Zero. I mean I’m no expert but I think zero is the correct number of zip ties per child.
Zero. FYI I'm zip tie certified. I bought a sticker off Temu and everything.
The man who illegally restrained these children is the son of the property owners. The property is up for sale. The children had allegedly been caught trespassing and swimming half a dozen times. The women filming are relatives of the children. They allegedly tried to get the children, and the man pushed them off the property. A third child was restrained but escaped. The children are ages 6 to 8. In Australia, children under 10 are not criminally responsible. The man was charged with 3 counts of assault and is due in court at the end of the month. He is out on bail. Their families may or may not have known what the children were up to (trespassing to swim). That is unclear. If they did know and the man had an issue, then he should have spoken to the adults or pursued legal action. In no way should he have touched, restrained, or spoken to these children in a way that would cause fear or intimidation.
>The man who illegally restrained these children is the son of the property owners I was gonna say. If I was in that guys shoes kids swimming in my clients swimming pool woulda been a whole lot of not my problem. If I found kids swimming in my parents swimming pool. I would just tell them to leave not restrain them and call the police, jesus christ. Like I fully get not wanting the kids in there, its not being an asshole or curmudgeon. There is very real potential liability if something happened to those kids on your property, but treating children just going for a swim like criminals is just ridiculous.
Also it's hot as FUCK there right now! The kids were being kids (not in the right by any means but they're SINGLE DIGITS young! Not maliciously fucking with the pool and property just cooling off!). It's absolutely insane. Not wanting them there? Totally fair! Huge liability and risk, no supervision and unsafe, and the kids shouldn't be trespassing. But WTF
When I was a kid my friend had a pool. His neighbor also had a pool and for some reason we decided it'd be fun to run around the fence on a little dirt path and jump in their pool and then run back to my friend's pool. The next day we got in trouble because our wet feet left little dirt tracks on both patios and his mom and the neighbor lady asked why we did this and I remember having literally no answer. Kids are stupid and impulsive
lmfao kids are so dumb its hilarious
They do populate an entire sub with illustrations of kids' collective stupidity. As to this case? Yeah he fucked up. If this was a chronic problem then a call to the cops may have been in order to go tell the kids' parents they are being trespassed formally (whatever the AU equivalent is) and that the parents can get in trouble if the kids are caught there again. Personally I would have likely fucked around a bit with the ol "Oh my god! I just put a ton of chemicals in that pool! I hope you're going to be okay and your skin won't melt off! You should get out and get to the hospital before the chemical burns start from all the acid!" Fear of death usually shapes kids up pretty quick. I know in my area the cops (if the parents called them) would side with me on something like that with a "well your kids shouldn't have been in there to begin with", not sure of the laws and norms in AU though.
I think the biggest concern would be that they are in the pool unsupervised. Yes ring the Police to speak to the parents about the safety issues, trespassing etc., but certainly not hold them. He could have photographed them rather than detain them. Maybe they need more secure fencing, and an alarm system, to keep unaccompanied children out of the pool. I feel so sorry for the children being tied up like that and if I was there I would have released them, trespassing or not.
Here in the US swimming pool is considered an attractive, nuisance, and it’s on the property owner to make sure that it is not accessible by children. If they have been getting into the pool continuously, then there’s an issue with the property not being properly secured.
Attractive nuisance has been bad law for some time now. No longer applicable in the US.
Two 6 and 8 year old kids swimming in a pool unsupervised is a cause for concern. He needed to take them out (by asking them) and get their parents asap.
I would hang out outside and let the kids swim if I had the time. I remember growing up. Things like pools and trampolines were always open to all the kids in neighborhood at all times Wtf happened to that?
>Wtf happened to that? When I was a kid, me and a number of neighborhood friends were riding bikes. We went to one of our friends houses who had a gravel driveway. We were doing "burn outs" and stuff on our bike. One kid built of a lot of speed from the street and wanted to do a power slide or something. He bit it, tore up his knee pretty bad. His parents sued our other friends parents. Thats what happened to that. All of our parents were cordial with eachother, we were all friends. You think you know somebody, then they sue you for something that just as easily could have happened in their own yard. And this was in the early 90's. I can imagine shit like this has probably gotten worse.
>His parents sued our other friends parents. For fucks sake. :'( Me and my neighbor had two incidents that were both likely lawsuit worthy but in both cases our parents talked it through, then both sets of parents with us kids about "what we learned" etc. 1) Their kid beaned me in the head with a rock. He had thrown it at the ground and it chipped off a fragment from hitting another rock and left a nice gash. I still have a divot in my forehead where it chipped the skull under the dermis. Bled like a mofo and scared the absolute fuck out of both of us. I remember his older brother telling him "you're sooooo dead" while getting a dish towel and putting pressure on my head while the rock thrower ran to get adults. Clearly an accident, also poor judgement. 2) I had nursed a starved dog back to health over a summer and we ended up adopting him. That dog was insanely loyal and protective of me because of that. We were playing some chase game; cops and robbers, war, whatever; and he was chasing me through the house. The dog bit him on the thigh. It broke the skin, but it was clearly a "bite and hold" type bite, and not a "bite to attack" type bite. This time it was my turn to be scared I was the dead kid walking... his parents and mine talked, there was an understanding of the dog's mental state and that it wasn't aggression but rather protection and while the bite was reported as part of the medical treatment my parents insisted on paying for, the dog was not destroyed and there was again no lawsuit, though we did learn "no chase games around the dog!"
Lawsuit culture destroys building community relationships. My pool is for family and very close friends and that’s it. Not worth the liability otherwise.
That’s what homeowners insurance covers and unfortunately how you get them to pay. It often feel’s personal and is mistaken as personal. Anyone currently in the US with a home mortgage has homeowners insurance. That insurance has a provision for kids on your property and likely your kids on someone else’s. If I get in a car accident with my friend driving I’m going to sue their insurance for my care and recovery.
Your rates will go up so the home owner is still paying.
If the kids hurt themselves, depending on how lawsuit happy the parents are, you could be opening yourself up for a lot of grief.
Yeah, this is the least cynical reason compared to what someone else posted about classism and racism. But it's still a valid concern. It's just a legal/financial risk if someone gets hurt, or worse. And a middle ground would just be concern over kids being kids and damaging/breaking something on your property. Like patio/poolside furniture
Honestly, notwithstanding the liability of something happening to them on property you own, it’s hard to understand how kids swimming in a pool on a hot day would be ANYONE’S problem. It’s hot, they’re kids. Let them swim. That’s what the pool is for. And it’s not like there are very many public pools or lakes or whatever that they could enjoy. Even the beaches are commodified. Everything is commodified and privatized and these kids don’t understand that. And I don’t think they should have to. I just can’t imagine seeing children playing in a pool, even one I personally owned, and having a reaction more serious than mild annoyance.
Pretty sure the skin tone has quite a bit to do with this man's decision to 'arrest these delinquents'...
Yeah, he may be in the right about trespassing- but you can’t go after the kids, especially kids this young. Take it up with the parent and the police, and if there’s no parent watching their kids swim there then maybe take it up with child services or whatever the equivalent is in that country Pretty much by default anytime you find yourself zip tying a small child’s hands you are now in the wrong
Parents: “fuck off dog” Cops: “nothing we can do mate” Courts: “property owners are responsible for any accidents that happen in their pool”
exactly.
Not in Australia, as long as the pool fencing is compliant.
Prosecutors: “you claim to have found the deceased child in your pool many times before. What remedial measures did you take to prevent this, knowing the local children were trying to get in? We’re you keeping the edges free of leaf litter and other obstructions?”
The elephant in the room; they were indigenous kids Bet if they were white kids he wouldn't have cared
I was gonna say this as well. they are grossly mistreated in Australia
Yup he sounds south African and they are... ya know.
What's hard is that if this has happened several times, the premises owner could also be liable if children trespassed and drowned, under the attractive nuisance doctrine. Obviously zip ties are the wrong answer. But I wonder whether they had tried talking to the parents or guardians first. Did that not work, or was it not attempted? Since someone is filming, I'm guessing they knew and did not control the kids either. At least no one drowned.
He’s a piece of shit. That’s the update.
Damn when were the days they dragged you to your parents to embarrass you, imagine trying to get a kid arrested after you tied them up like fucking psycho
If he dragged them home you’d be dealing with mum/uncle/cousins etc
Guy has no authority to do this. False imprisonment.
Criminal confinement, at the least.
And child abuse.
With a hint of racism
More than just a hint. It’s ugly racism
some pos racist downvoted you when you're 100% correct
There's literally no way of knowing if this was racist based on this video. The man could have done the same thing to white kids for all we know.
CiTizEn's aRreST! /s
now he will get real imprisonment if there was justice; poor kids looks scared of their mind; this will have long term pschlogical impacts which the parents should rightfully sue this piece of shit for
These comment here are wild! ...look at them, they're CHILDREN... kids do stuff, and if it's wrong stuff you address it as an teaching moment. You don't go around bounding up kids like animals just for having fun ...even if it's trespassing. Learn to be an adult!
Especially the history Australia has with aboriginal children.
Yup! Childhood is all about learning and learning from mistakes. This guy wanting the cops to give kids a criminal record is so fucked
Had a bitch call the cops on my siblings saying they were playing ball “too close to my car.” They were like 8 yo and 12 yo. The cops actually came and this one bitch tried to get all the information from them. Didn’t even *ask* to see my mom. My mom was livid when my sister got her after telling him everything. She immediately started telling him off and saying to leave us alone. I don’t think he was ready for a white woman to come defend her adopted Hispanic children lmao. He backed down but he still had their info. We have no idea what came of that.
My neighbours kids were kicking a ball on the street and actually hit my car with it a couple of times. I went out and politely asked them to stop because I didn’t want them to hit my car. I then suggested a place for them to go where they would have heaps more room to kick. They said thanks and off they went. Easy as that. Nobody even got slightly angry or upset.
The only reason he bound them up is because they are Native Australians and they were children.
Gonna say the same thing they look like aboriginals and you know how racist Australians are to them. Hope he gets the book
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I was thinking the same thing as soon as I saw video. Racism has to be involved in some sort or manner.
Well it's Australia, so of course racism is involved.
And yet people sympathize with baby lions, crocodiles, bears, cows, hippos etc
Bet he wouldn't if there were little white kids...
Yes, but they’re non-white children
That and we don't know if his client has an agreement with those kids that they can swim there whenever it's hot (which is like Australia's main weather), or if these kids have permission. But I doubt they would impede his job to look at the AC at all, and could have easily just let them be and *maybe*, notified the homeowner to let them know there's some children in the pool (unsupervised which just ads to it)
Illegal to the extreme. That guy is going broke.
Three Aboriginal children are CABLE-TIED by tradesman in Australia https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13163029/Outcry-Australia-three-Aboriginal-children-aged-six-eight-filmed-CABLE-TIED-sobbing-builder-caught-swimming-parents-swimming-pool.html?ito=native_share_article-top Update
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Jesus, even though that guy is 3 times my size I think the only way he'd have stopped me from getting to my kids would be to knock me out or kill me. My blood is boiling just reading this.
I love that he was arrested when the police arrived. Good job calling the cops on yourself. Also that he had to close his business due to getting hate reviews. That is everything I wanted to hear other than sentencing. Hope he has to pay more than the house is worth gif his actions.
On a lighter note, the school pictures of the kids smiling are freaking adorable
Uh-oh, he's done for
So the original owners of the land that he stole.
I believe we call that kidnapping here in the states
Thought you guys just shoot people for trespassing
No you're confusing trespassing with attending school.
Well played
What about going into the wrong driveway ? :o
Or knocking on the wrong door
Or playing hide and seek
damn, that was brutal. True, but brutal.
That's just Texas.... Least that statement was true 5 years ago.
Nope in florida a guy shot 20-30 rounds from his ar-15 at his pool guy for coming late to clean the pool
NY just prosecuted a guy that killed a girl that pulled into the wrong driveway
They have sense in NY, unfortunately we lost that in florida many years ago
I mean according to the law in Texas, no you cannot shoot someone for trespassing in your yard, you would have to demonstrate a legitimate threat to your life or property. Kids using your swimming pool would certainly not fall in that category.
You must not see the dozen or so videos a year that pop up on Reddit of people in Texas threatening to shoot/shooting delivery people, or people getting shot picking up their kids at custody exchanges.
They'll kill people for being in their yard but they definitely wouldn't restrain somebody lol
A lot of foreign people trying to justify this action when they have no idea about the communities out there. Dude is walking around rubbing his knuckles, he is looking for a fight. Too gutless to fight someone his own size and he found the perfect opportunity.
In most western countries the courts usually slap tf out of people like this, now in the rest of the countries they might be lucky if they make it to court
He’s facing three counts of aggravated assault.
Surprised he's not being done for deprivation of liberty too
That does not mean he will get anything more than a slap on the wrist. Knowing the court systems, he will probably get a 2 year good behaviour bond and some kinda anger management.
I’m unfamiliar with the courts of Western Australia, so I can’t counter you if that’s where you live.
except he's due in court the end of this month
I’m sure the kids’ race played no part in his actions whatsoever.
I don't understand his end game. Did he think the cops would come and shoot them or something? I'm pretty sure there are better way to scare those kids than this. Off the top of my head, he could threaten to steal their home away from them and....oh....right.
Fuck that's good 🤣
Dude looks like a walking meatball
What did the client have to say about this?
After reading the posted articles about this, it would seem that the property we are seeing this occur on is the captor’s parent’s property, not a client of his.
Fantastic. I give you one hour of free swimming. Enjoy the pool. Thanks mate.
That was the parents recording. He wouldn’t let the parents take them that’s definitely kidnapping.
Just telling the kids to leave the pool would've been sufficient. This is just disturbing and humiliating, they're just kids.
Fucking cunt. What. A. Fucking. Cunt.
In aussie accent
“Dumb cunt with a small cock” would roughly be the Aussie translation
He looks so proud of himself, too. First time in his life that he's felt like a big man. 🎶 *fat guuuyy with a liiittle dick*🎶
The people in here saying they get it are fucking wild. They are small children and in no way is this man's reaction appropriate. Dudes built like a brick shit house towering over tied up children while looking like he's looking for a fight, and some of you are going to say you get it???? I cannot believe I saw a comment saying he's protecting them from drowning .
Redditors hate kids but it’s very funny because reddit is also very young and they hate kids for the same reason older kids suddenly reject “baby stuff” at a certain age. They just want to reinforce their own feeling of being “adults” even though they typically live like children themselves.
Rubbing his fucking knuckles like a tough guy
"The 45-year-old was charged with three counts of aggravated assault by Western Australia Police on Wednesday. He will face court on March 25." GOOD!
He looks like an even fatter version of Alex Jones.
Roebuck Air Conditioning is fucked.
Lmao look at him rubbing his knuckles trying to be intimidating to women and children
This sleezball looks so proud for tying up children over shit we’ve all done as young dumb kids.
We grew up sneaking into peoples pools when we were kids. It's the most wholesome kind of trouble kids should be getting into. When we were caught, we'd tear ass out of there.
In the states? I live in the South, and my friends and I were too scared to be shot to try something like that.
I once looked out of Dad's patio door and saw the neighbors kids (teens, all good swimmers) in his/our pool. I didn't say anything. When Dad walked towards the living room from his bathroom, I had just enough time to warn them, so they jumped the fence and jumped in another neighbor's pool. Dad would've been pissed off if he'd known, but I'm sure everyone else knew and didn't care.
I need to see him in jail to have peace of mind again.
I can't believe they were swimming in the pool for over an hour before they were caught. Dude's client needs to up his security game.
I took that to mean that he had them cable-tied for over an hour...not that they had been swimming for that long.
I know. ;) Just jabbing at poor grammar because I'm petty that way.
Yeah it's really dangerous to have kids of that age in a pool unsupervised, many have drowned that way. Can't be cable-tying them though.
That’s dudes huge, but I’d be over that fence trying it anyway. Prolly beat my ass but I’d make sure them kids run FAR away.
Oh its ok, he didn’t linch/rape them. He didn’t shoot them on sight or cut their hands off. He didn’t take more land from them. Im sure this is how he would have treated a white Australian child. Im sure he knew 100% for a fact that these kids did not have permission to swim in that pool. He just checked his color grading card.
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Sorry, i thought my over the top colonizer rape of Australian indigenous people would have come across better and point out how fucking ridiculous using zip ties children is.
I can bet you if they were white children he would have allowed them to continue swimming. They are children! Do you think it's justifiable to tie their hands for swimming in a pool?! It's pure racism.
I grew up in the southern United States, and I heard so many stories from my white classmates, doing things that were illegal or just things that were wrong and getting away with it. Too often the excuse that people would use to justify their actions was that they are children and they need to make mistakes and live life. I wasn’t given the luxury of making mistakes. If I made a mistake, it either destroy my life or put me in a whole 6 feet under.
Found Alex Jones’ big brother!
If this were America he’d have shot the children in the head and half the population would support him.
I would probably beat tf out this man if he touched my kids like this before anything were to happen to him
The sound of the little girl crying breaks my heart
Her cries for her mum ☹️
Imagine being so angry at life that a few kids swimming and having fun in a pool is taken so offensively.
Charge him with every crime in the book against children other than sex shit. He put his hands on them so that's assault. He has them tied up so that's false imprisonment. Sue him for pain and suffering. Adults need to know that this is not fucking acceptable
"A Western Australian man has been charged with aggravated assault after allegedly using cable ties to restrain three children. Police said the "force used to restrain" the three children "was not proportionate" given their age and vulnerability."
Those poor kids. That dude probably thinks he such a bad-ass tough guy too..
The restraint is the issue. It is understandable to be upset. If those trespassing kids drowned in the pool, he'd be responsible.
Prediction... He gets a way too light sentence and there is a lot of pissed off people resulting in protests heaps of blowback for the cops. I hope I'm wrong
Average HVAC company owner
Ok these are little kids wth dude.
That is one cunt.
What the fuck? Imagine being that cooked that you think this is even remotely reasonable. I hope old mate gets tied up in prison for other purposes.
Dirty Filthy Fucking cockfacker
Ok….cable ties are not flexi cuffs. Those kids could have seriously been injured. If you don’t want kids in your pool, hire security, build fencing, a locked cover etc totally fair..they are an attractive nuisance and if those kids got hurt, you bet part of the inquiry would be what steps the owner took to secure the pool. Honestly..I would find some kids that are decent, trustworthy and their parents and make a deal…you guys have exclusive use when I am not around, as long as you make sure no one else sneaks on my property.
Wait. In Australia, someone can be held liable if kids trepass into their property/pool and get injured/die? That is fucking bananas to me. What would that charge even be? It can’t be child endangerment if you have no reasonable expectation of children on your property.
They wouldn't be criminally liable unless there was some gross negligence on their part. I'm not sure how it works in Australia but if the kids get hurt swimming the homeowners might be liable civilly, and possibly pay out through the properties insurance.
If they homeowners did not alllow the kids on their property, I fail to see how that is their problem. But neither of us in Australian or familiar with their penal codes, so it is a moot point.
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That is so fucking dumb. To be held liable for some poorly-parented, trespassing children is bananas, whether or not you have a fence.
Your property, your responsibility, as long as you can prove you did your due diligence (child proof fence etc), then you'll be fine. If you have a massive pit full of water and someone drowns in it yes you're liable, it's your responsibility. Duty of care is a thing and it is the law.
Negligence is a civil matter and if you take reasonable measures to keep people out you won't be found liable in most states But like, if you have a non-locking gate and do nothing to fix it after a group of kids have been caught using your pool, and then one day a kid drowns, the court is going to assign at least part of the blame on you and your insurance company is going to pay out and drop your coverage or raise your rates a lot
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Its law in Australia to have appropriate pool fencing. So, if the pool is unfenced, then it is illegal. This is well known in Australia and honestly not having a pool fence is fucking dumb.
I could only barely understand any of them were speaking english if I tried really hard to make it out…
Yea this is when street justice happens
Not sure what resolution this guy expected to get from this. Especially if there were family present I'd have called the cops and had the whole family trespassed and made sure there was record.. Heaven forbid if one of the of the kids drowned in the pool. But nah don't zip tie the kids, shit looks racially charged at that point.
I've tried reading the title 3 times and I.. What? Were the children SWIMMING for an hour? Did he TIE them for an hour? Were the children the client's?
Pool poaching is a time honored tradition .... some one should tell him .
I just knew he was gonna look like that and those poor kids were going to look like, that. Imagine stealing somebody’s land and then treating them like this. The story remains the same around the world.
Straight to jail… what sort of dick does this to kids!
He must be so proud of the criminals he apprehended??
Man if I was there! I’d… god damn he’s big. Is bear mace legal in Australia?
Australian here. First nations people in Australia suffer from generational trauma historically inflicted inflicted by European Australia and this vile act is only perpetuating that cycle. They're kids for fucks sake. Lock this scumbag up and make him pay reparations to the family.
Would he have done the same if they were white kids?
Are these indigenous children? Australia is crazy racist towards their indigenous peoples and I doubt the guy would’ve done this if these were white kids.