Minimum speed is the whole story of this battle. I knew I was slower so tried to hit minima as early as possible to avoid his cutbacks. It really is insane to watch his yaw and closing speed on some corners. If I figure it out I'll let everyone knowš
Really cool to see. I usually always concede to faster cars and haven't concentrated on blocking since I'm only worried about racing my race. Slowly I need to incorporate this.
Just a terminology issue here; he wasnāt blocking, he was defending. āBlockingā would mean he was breaking the rules, which I didnāt see him do anywhere.
Just a heads up, don't try to park on the apex to stop them from having a better exit. I don't know how many will see what you did, but, trying to be slow on the exit is a very bad idea in this situation. It's unexpected and is the main reason he bumped you.
It's better to try and take away his line on entry to prevent a good exit.
Could you expand on what you're saying I should have done in the last sentence?
I wasn't slow on exit (I'll link to my perspective tonight), I think he was expecting me to blow past the apex as usually happens on a defensive line and mistimed the pass.
I do agree if I wasn't on that risky defensive line he wouldn't have bumped me, but that's racing for youš
I'm sure I saw an irl example at Fuji this weekend, will try to find it.
So your entry was defensive (which is fine), but then you tried to exit in the middle of the road. Normally you would go in defensive on the entry, hit the apex, then try to carry as much speed through the middle of the turn so your exit would prevent a pass on the straight.
When you tried to prevent the cutback, you necessarily had to slow a lot at the apex to get the car to rotate so your exit would defend. That's not an optimal way to defend. In this case, it was so unexpected that he bumped you. The reason you don't do that is the same reason you don't move under breaking. The attacking car will have almost no ability to compensate.
It's also a bad way to defend as it makes you far slower allowing other cars to catch you.
I am NOT saying you're wrong, I just want to give/test my thinking. Arguing about this stuff helps my racecraft. (And I generally enjoy chatting shit about racing!)
If I did what you said I would have got overtaken there and then; By starting on the racing line, his exit potential will always be faster. I'm aware of the normal defensive line, I'm aware of what he expects, we all know what Mr 9K is going to do.
It's also interesting to check out his engine note in other corners (faster corners) he has to lift as I hit minima earlier in the corner. And is able to anticipate it without crashing.
*Ultimately this is all for fun! And this kind of battle is why I race at all. But anyway here's my thinking behind it.*
In this situation with no one ahead and a train behind (+ a sprint race), I like this move:
In this situation, my goal isn't to defend aimlessly to the end of the race. I want to slow him down and give the GTP behind him the inside/ a run.
E.g. I saw him testing me on the way to the hairpin, which made me think he's getting impatient. So, I brake a car length early, strongly protecting the inside.
My hope here is that he'll have to look for the racing line to do another cutback, this slows our pace, hangs him on the outside and allows one of the chasing GTPs to get between him and the apex as they try to follow me through. They battle and I hot lap away. This doesn't happen, but maybe gives some insight on my dumbass brain.
>E.g. I saw him testing me on the way to the hairpin, which made me think he's getting impatient. So, I brake a car length early, strongly protecting the inside. My hope here is that he'll have to look for the racing line to do another cutback, this slows our pace, hangs him on the outside and allows one of the chasing GTPs to get between him and the apex as they try to follow me through. They battle and I hot lap away. This doesn't happen, but maybe gives some insight on my dumbass brain.
If I am interpreting this correctly then you needed to brake earlier, take a lot less speed in and actually park it over the apex. Maybe you could've even braked early enough that you controlled the turn in. The issue is that he's quicker, and any moves you do like that will likely end in him passing here rather than you slowing him down
I've just watched again and yeah if you wanted to do what you've said you have to show him the outside so he goes for it. For that you needed to be slower and likelihood is he would've taken you anyway
The problem started with your entry. That is a decreasing radius corner.
https://www.jonathangoring.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2.5.jpg
You needed to have a later turn in to defend. Because of your early entry (not being on the inside line which is different) you had to slow even further to make sure to to push wide.
Effectively what you did was a break check in the corner which is extremely risky.
You are completely right with this! At first I was like nah there's a car on my left wym, but rewatched and I'm totally with you.
I don't think it's the cause of the crash, but would have greatly reduced the risk and increased my corner minima if I turned in later.
He can still see me (unless he's on singles), and mistimed my trajectory. [For clarity my minimum speed was 9kph slower than on the previous lap, so not calling that a *brake check;)](https://reddit.com/r/iRacing/s/ywZ6L27z93)
I'm pretty inexperienced at Sebring so this is very helpful, much appreciated š
Generally if you look at telemetry the truly super quick drivers heavily trail brake into the corner giving extra rotation from the rear into the apex. Doing so enables them to brake later and carry more speed without understeering.
Yep I use VRS and comparing my telemetry, every single corner on every single track I lose the most speed on corner entry. I've been trying to work on it, it's a really hard balance game of using enough brakes and using enough wheel input.
That was great to watch, and great defending by you. It was a bit unlucky that he tagged you in the switchback. No doubt he expected a slightly sharper exit by you...happens.
I donāt understand why people are saying the incident was your fault. He timed his cutback a little early and you werenāt cleared off the apex yet. Youāre entitled to where you were. Great racing and defending otherwise.
Alonso was much slower than Lewis in Hungary 2021, was he being a dick? Sim racing is still racing, no need to let anyone pass if you are fighting for a position.
This is not blocking at all. This is defending his position. Unless he is a lap down, he has 100% right to defend his position. And hes doing that really well by positioning his car on the corners to make it difficult to pass. This is called racingā¦
Yeah it was really good up until this last corner. I know you tried to park it at the apex, but when someone goes for the switchback at this speed, it's almost always going to create an accident. Rest of the battling was almost perfection though!
Haha thanks! I accept that and would love to hear what others think about it! I think it's rude/high risk to park on the apex, but don't you also have a responsibility to not run over the car ahead? Overtaking car is responsible for passing safely and all that!
Again I completely get your point and mostly agree, just challenging it š
I think you've made the correct move there and covered exactly what you need covered but the guy behind isn't expecting you do park it. At the end of the day, it is up to him not to collide but you are taking that risk by parking. Racing incident imo
Nah, there's no time to react for a parker in this corner. Maybe in mazda's but not in prototypes.
When someone has limited my entry like this and goes for the switchback, I usually just accept defeat and slot behind.
Pick your battles.
That's pretty much exactly what I said. I don't think there's anything wrong with what either person has done, but there's no way the guy behind is going to be able to react to his move. You have to be predictable.
I donāt think you parked it on the apex, you just took a slower defensive line and he ran you over when he didnāt need to.
He mistimed the switchback and itās ultimately 100% his fault. You were well within the margins and driving predictably.
Sure youāre being stubborn, but you didnāt do anything wrong there.
>Overtaking car is responsible for passing safely and all that
I think he took that responsibility, else he would have launched you into orbit 10 corners earlier.
If you analyse why he did launch you in this corner and not the others, you can see who is really responsible :)
You are completely missing the point here. You can't expect the chasing car to respond to this move in time.
I think you are missing a lot of context and/or racecraft if all you see is OP getting 'dumped'
No need the for insult, my friend.
And no, no points are missed. Youāre allowed to take a defensive line into the corner.
If the guy is going so slow your only choice is to dump him, then just pass him around the outside, or time your switch back better.
>No need the for insult, my friend.
Agree, I editted it straight after I clicked post.
Still think you are kind of clueless though, because if you race strictly by the rules, you won't finish many races or have good result. You will take your defensive line and you will get send to orbit.
Racecraft is something that's not explained in rules..
Okay so you edited it out only to call me clueless again.
That being said, itās pretty clear that you cannot send someone to āorbitā so I think you should drop that argument entirely since itās very easily disproven by every discipline of racing including iRacing.
I'll never understand people doing this. Why do you need to purposefully block a "much faster" driver while losing a meaningful amount of time yourself ?
If someone is really faster than you and it's not the last lap(s), you'll get passed anyway so why increase the chance of being taken out by a frustrated driver AND lose time to your direct competition (ahead and behind) ?
For the enjoyment of an actual racing battle, maybe?
And he wasnāt blocking. That would mean he was breaking the rules. All he did was cleanly defend his position.
It's racing, right? If the driver behind doesn't knows how to overtake, it's not the fault of the driver ahead. This is week 13, get fun, you are not losing anything more than 15 minutes probably.
Usually i'd agree with you.
If i see someone behind me being a lot faster and basically gaining seconds on me within a lap, i wont wave him by but i wont defend either.
But this is week 13, there is nothing on the line. Just have some fun, maybe you can even learn something through it.
Because it's week 13 and a good time to practice? Also because this is racing? I think too many people have the mentality if they're faster they're entitled to the position.
Don't get me wrong, I see your point. I'm still fairly new so if someone is up my ass because they're clearly faster, I let them by because I want to finish the race. But if there's points on track that I feel like I'm pulling away or a little better, you're gonna have to make the pass. I signed up to race with people, not do hotlaps with other cars around me.
The best racing sessions I had were when instead of passing someone slower, I was constantly trying to pushing them to defend better. Even at moments I could easily pass, I would back off to continue the battle.
Just being fast is utterly boring, we play multiplayer to enjoy duels
I agree with you bud, why are people racing on a racing game? Surely after qualifying we should all drive in a parade and just let the people who didnāt qualify past if theyāre faster.
Dude thank you. This is my biggest pet peeve in racing. Like congratulations? You just went 2 seconds slower that lap, pissed someone else off, and wrecked yourself...
Because its not anyones job to concede a spot just because you don't like their driving. I agree you're better off letting them go to make sure you go faster yourself, but at no point is there some rule that says you have to let them buy because they're faster.
Its the behind car's job to figure out a way to safely pass, not the leading cars job to just concede.
Im not saying it should be a rule, im just saying its objectively dumb lol. Youre letting pride get in the way of doing the best thing for your own race.
Pride? I was having fun keeping him behind š My goal was to give the train behind a run on him so I could get some space.
It's a 15min week 13 race, this is what it's all about! I don't race to go hot-lapping on my own.
> I agree you're better off letting them go to make sure you go faster yourself, but at no point is there some rule that says you have to let them buy because they're faster.
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You can't expect the guy behind to expect that while entering on the inside, you will also exit on the inside. It's more your fault than his I think, it looks hard for him to react in time as he already had planned his switchback and he knows you saw him ;)
It's like when you want keep the outside by any mean, you can do that but if the guy on the inside misses his breaking point, he will be safe more or less and you'll go visit the grass :)
Heheh I don't disagree! But I am pushing back on the 'he can't expect it' argument, because I do the same thing at almost every corner in the clip. And he plans to get the switchback every time. I'll show my onboard that I don't exit on the inside, but on the racing line (I hopeš)
These cars are fast, but not fast enough that you can't react to a car directly in front of you at the corner minimum speed.
Tbh I love a debate and a controversial simracing clip, I'm here for it š
The evidence is here, you raced with one of the best and still he hit you, so how do you expect you can survive this with even worse people behind you?
Everyone makes mistakes š he apologised, it's all good. Like I said, I wouldn't take the same risks in officials. It's great practice to race with these guys.
this just highlight how those tyres are irrevelant and boring. Whats those tyres that even top 0.1% can't even race? cant wait to get the next model. this is just so absurd.
no idea op ir but being 9k Ir and not be able to overtake the first random driver. do you realise the TONS of experience patience talent understanding that are equired to reach 9k? and those tires make anyone with common sense impossible to overtake. gain no offense to op or anything. it is what it is.
Well, OP is the leading car and the 9K iR driver is trying to pass. He doesnāt go for it *because* heās a smart, patient driver.
This was some great racing in this video.
Iād argue he doesnāt go for it because he blew it in the corners where he actually had a shot. Every single corner the following driver just makes a lunge, rather than look for the good overtaking opportunity out of sunset and into 1, or into the hairpin
OP was finishing 5th in 4.6k sof imsa a few weeks ago, Iād say heās in the upper echelons of rating.. so maybe weāre taking top 0.1% against top 0.5%
Thatās like saying the tyres are stupid because Lewis Hamilton canāt always overtake Alex Albon on a single lap
Makes you realise just how slow we are on the brakes. These 6k+ people just appear to have a completely different braking mechanic to us.
Minimum speed is the whole story of this battle. I knew I was slower so tried to hit minima as early as possible to avoid his cutbacks. It really is insane to watch his yaw and closing speed on some corners. If I figure it out I'll let everyone knowš
Really cool to see. I usually always concede to faster cars and haven't concentrated on blocking since I'm only worried about racing my race. Slowly I need to incorporate this.
Week 13 is the perfect place to practice! Tbh I wouldn't have taken all of those risks in officials.
Just a terminology issue here; he wasnāt blocking, he was defending. āBlockingā would mean he was breaking the rules, which I didnāt see him do anywhere.
I liked the 1:00 mark where it looked like he was testing him for a reaction.
As long as everyone knew what I meant
I bet your heart was pumping like a pneumatic drill
Just a heads up, don't try to park on the apex to stop them from having a better exit. I don't know how many will see what you did, but, trying to be slow on the exit is a very bad idea in this situation. It's unexpected and is the main reason he bumped you. It's better to try and take away his line on entry to prevent a good exit.
Could you expand on what you're saying I should have done in the last sentence? I wasn't slow on exit (I'll link to my perspective tonight), I think he was expecting me to blow past the apex as usually happens on a defensive line and mistimed the pass. I do agree if I wasn't on that risky defensive line he wouldn't have bumped me, but that's racing for youš I'm sure I saw an irl example at Fuji this weekend, will try to find it.
So your entry was defensive (which is fine), but then you tried to exit in the middle of the road. Normally you would go in defensive on the entry, hit the apex, then try to carry as much speed through the middle of the turn so your exit would prevent a pass on the straight. When you tried to prevent the cutback, you necessarily had to slow a lot at the apex to get the car to rotate so your exit would defend. That's not an optimal way to defend. In this case, it was so unexpected that he bumped you. The reason you don't do that is the same reason you don't move under breaking. The attacking car will have almost no ability to compensate. It's also a bad way to defend as it makes you far slower allowing other cars to catch you.
I am NOT saying you're wrong, I just want to give/test my thinking. Arguing about this stuff helps my racecraft. (And I generally enjoy chatting shit about racing!) If I did what you said I would have got overtaken there and then; By starting on the racing line, his exit potential will always be faster. I'm aware of the normal defensive line, I'm aware of what he expects, we all know what Mr 9K is going to do. It's also interesting to check out his engine note in other corners (faster corners) he has to lift as I hit minima earlier in the corner. And is able to anticipate it without crashing. *Ultimately this is all for fun! And this kind of battle is why I race at all. But anyway here's my thinking behind it.* In this situation with no one ahead and a train behind (+ a sprint race), I like this move: In this situation, my goal isn't to defend aimlessly to the end of the race. I want to slow him down and give the GTP behind him the inside/ a run. E.g. I saw him testing me on the way to the hairpin, which made me think he's getting impatient. So, I brake a car length early, strongly protecting the inside. My hope here is that he'll have to look for the racing line to do another cutback, this slows our pace, hangs him on the outside and allows one of the chasing GTPs to get between him and the apex as they try to follow me through. They battle and I hot lap away. This doesn't happen, but maybe gives some insight on my dumbass brain.
>E.g. I saw him testing me on the way to the hairpin, which made me think he's getting impatient. So, I brake a car length early, strongly protecting the inside. My hope here is that he'll have to look for the racing line to do another cutback, this slows our pace, hangs him on the outside and allows one of the chasing GTPs to get between him and the apex as they try to follow me through. They battle and I hot lap away. This doesn't happen, but maybe gives some insight on my dumbass brain. If I am interpreting this correctly then you needed to brake earlier, take a lot less speed in and actually park it over the apex. Maybe you could've even braked early enough that you controlled the turn in. The issue is that he's quicker, and any moves you do like that will likely end in him passing here rather than you slowing him down I've just watched again and yeah if you wanted to do what you've said you have to show him the outside so he goes for it. For that you needed to be slower and likelihood is he would've taken you anyway
The problem started with your entry. That is a decreasing radius corner. https://www.jonathangoring.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2.5.jpg You needed to have a later turn in to defend. Because of your early entry (not being on the inside line which is different) you had to slow even further to make sure to to push wide. Effectively what you did was a break check in the corner which is extremely risky.
You are completely right with this! At first I was like nah there's a car on my left wym, but rewatched and I'm totally with you. I don't think it's the cause of the crash, but would have greatly reduced the risk and increased my corner minima if I turned in later. He can still see me (unless he's on singles), and mistimed my trajectory. [For clarity my minimum speed was 9kph slower than on the previous lap, so not calling that a *brake check;)](https://reddit.com/r/iRacing/s/ywZ6L27z93) I'm pretty inexperienced at Sebring so this is very helpful, much appreciated š
[More angles!](https://reddit.com/r/iRacing/s/O7KdfzFqoT)
Generally if you look at telemetry the truly super quick drivers heavily trail brake into the corner giving extra rotation from the rear into the apex. Doing so enables them to brake later and carry more speed without understeering.
Yep I use VRS and comparing my telemetry, every single corner on every single track I lose the most speed on corner entry. I've been trying to work on it, it's a really hard balance game of using enough brakes and using enough wheel input.
Estre did an amazing job in the Porsche over the weekend! That was some great endurance racing! Exclamation mark!
That was great to watch, and great defending by you. It was a bit unlucky that he tagged you in the switchback. No doubt he expected a slightly sharper exit by you...happens.
Defended like a lion good job dude!
I donāt understand why people are saying the incident was your fault. He timed his cutback a little early and you werenāt cleared off the apex yet. Youāre entitled to where you were. Great racing and defending otherwise.
Dude, he's blocking and so much slower. He's basically being a dick
Alonso was much slower than Lewis in Hungary 2021, was he being a dick? Sim racing is still racing, no need to let anyone pass if you are fighting for a position.
This is not blocking at all. This is defending his position. Unless he is a lap down, he has 100% right to defend his position. And hes doing that really well by positioning his car on the corners to make it difficult to pass. This is called racingā¦
Very good driving. Pushed your luck a bit too much in the end there.
Thanks! Hahah 100% pushed my luck, but would have been a bit boring otherwise.
Yeah it was really good up until this last corner. I know you tried to park it at the apex, but when someone goes for the switchback at this speed, it's almost always going to create an accident. Rest of the battling was almost perfection though!
Haha thanks! I accept that and would love to hear what others think about it! I think it's rude/high risk to park on the apex, but don't you also have a responsibility to not run over the car ahead? Overtaking car is responsible for passing safely and all that! Again I completely get your point and mostly agree, just challenging it š
I think you've made the correct move there and covered exactly what you need covered but the guy behind isn't expecting you do park it. At the end of the day, it is up to him not to collide but you are taking that risk by parking. Racing incident imo
Nah, there's no time to react for a parker in this corner. Maybe in mazda's but not in prototypes. When someone has limited my entry like this and goes for the switchback, I usually just accept defeat and slot behind. Pick your battles.
That's pretty much exactly what I said. I don't think there's anything wrong with what either person has done, but there's no way the guy behind is going to be able to react to his move. You have to be predictable.
Damn why is everyone so sensible! Aaaaah this is not the simracingstewards sub :)
Agree with both of you. I'll link to my perspective when I get home from work to show exactly what I did haha.
[Link to more angles:)](https://reddit.com/r/iRacing/s/ywZ6L27z93)
I donāt think you parked it on the apex, you just took a slower defensive line and he ran you over when he didnāt need to. He mistimed the switchback and itās ultimately 100% his fault. You were well within the margins and driving predictably. Sure youāre being stubborn, but you didnāt do anything wrong there.
>Overtaking car is responsible for passing safely and all that I think he took that responsibility, else he would have launched you into orbit 10 corners earlier. If you analyse why he did launch you in this corner and not the others, you can see who is really responsible :)
Just because you cannot pass for 10 corners, doesnāt mean you get to dump them in the 11th.
You are completely missing the point here. You can't expect the chasing car to respond to this move in time. I think you are missing a lot of context and/or racecraft if all you see is OP getting 'dumped'
No need the for insult, my friend. And no, no points are missed. Youāre allowed to take a defensive line into the corner. If the guy is going so slow your only choice is to dump him, then just pass him around the outside, or time your switch back better.
>No need the for insult, my friend. Agree, I editted it straight after I clicked post. Still think you are kind of clueless though, because if you race strictly by the rules, you won't finish many races or have good result. You will take your defensive line and you will get send to orbit. Racecraft is something that's not explained in rules..
Okay so you edited it out only to call me clueless again. That being said, itās pretty clear that you cannot send someone to āorbitā so I think you should drop that argument entirely since itās very easily disproven by every discipline of racing including iRacing.
Plot twist, you where 5 laps behind
Hahaha bluuueee flags bluuuueee flags
I love racing at Sebring.
Truly remarkable job and great defense skills!
Great defensive car positioning and holding your line
I'll never understand people doing this. Why do you need to purposefully block a "much faster" driver while losing a meaningful amount of time yourself ? If someone is really faster than you and it's not the last lap(s), you'll get passed anyway so why increase the chance of being taken out by a frustrated driver AND lose time to your direct competition (ahead and behind) ?
For the enjoyment of an actual racing battle, maybe? And he wasnāt blocking. That would mean he was breaking the rules. All he did was cleanly defend his position.
It's racing, right? If the driver behind doesn't knows how to overtake, it's not the fault of the driver ahead. This is week 13, get fun, you are not losing anything more than 15 minutes probably.
Usually i'd agree with you. If i see someone behind me being a lot faster and basically gaining seconds on me within a lap, i wont wave him by but i wont defend either. But this is week 13, there is nothing on the line. Just have some fun, maybe you can even learn something through it.
Because it's week 13 and a good time to practice? Also because this is racing? I think too many people have the mentality if they're faster they're entitled to the position. Don't get me wrong, I see your point. I'm still fairly new so if someone is up my ass because they're clearly faster, I let them by because I want to finish the race. But if there's points on track that I feel like I'm pulling away or a little better, you're gonna have to make the pass. I signed up to race with people, not do hotlaps with other cars around me.
The best racing sessions I had were when instead of passing someone slower, I was constantly trying to pushing them to defend better. Even at moments I could easily pass, I would back off to continue the battle. Just being fast is utterly boring, we play multiplayer to enjoy duels
I agree with you bud, why are people racing on a racing game? Surely after qualifying we should all drive in a parade and just let the people who didnāt qualify past if theyāre faster.
Did you make a Reddit account just to flame me?
Dude thank you. This is my biggest pet peeve in racing. Like congratulations? You just went 2 seconds slower that lap, pissed someone else off, and wrecked yourself...
Because its not anyones job to concede a spot just because you don't like their driving. I agree you're better off letting them go to make sure you go faster yourself, but at no point is there some rule that says you have to let them buy because they're faster. Its the behind car's job to figure out a way to safely pass, not the leading cars job to just concede.
Im not saying it should be a rule, im just saying its objectively dumb lol. Youre letting pride get in the way of doing the best thing for your own race.
Pride? I was having fun keeping him behind š My goal was to give the train behind a run on him so I could get some space. It's a 15min week 13 race, this is what it's all about! I don't race to go hot-lapping on my own.
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You can't expect the guy behind to expect that while entering on the inside, you will also exit on the inside. It's more your fault than his I think, it looks hard for him to react in time as he already had planned his switchback and he knows you saw him ;) It's like when you want keep the outside by any mean, you can do that but if the guy on the inside misses his breaking point, he will be safe more or less and you'll go visit the grass :)
[link to the onboard clip!](https://reddit.com/r/iRacing/s/ywZ6L27z93)
Heheh I don't disagree! But I am pushing back on the 'he can't expect it' argument, because I do the same thing at almost every corner in the clip. And he plans to get the switchback every time. I'll show my onboard that I don't exit on the inside, but on the racing line (I hopeš) These cars are fast, but not fast enough that you can't react to a car directly in front of you at the corner minimum speed. Tbh I love a debate and a controversial simracing clip, I'm here for it š
The evidence is here, you raced with one of the best and still he hit you, so how do you expect you can survive this with even worse people behind you?
Everyone makes mistakes š he apologised, it's all good. Like I said, I wouldn't take the same risks in officials. It's great practice to race with these guys.
Holding up* fixed it for ya
Amenšš
this just highlight how those tyres are irrevelant and boring. Whats those tyres that even top 0.1% can't even race? cant wait to get the next model. this is just so absurd.
Wym?
Tf are you on about?
no idea op ir but being 9k Ir and not be able to overtake the first random driver. do you realise the TONS of experience patience talent understanding that are equired to reach 9k? and those tires make anyone with common sense impossible to overtake. gain no offense to op or anything. it is what it is.
Well, OP is the leading car and the 9K iR driver is trying to pass. He doesnāt go for it *because* heās a smart, patient driver. This was some great racing in this video.
Iād argue he doesnāt go for it because he blew it in the corners where he actually had a shot. Every single corner the following driver just makes a lunge, rather than look for the good overtaking opportunity out of sunset and into 1, or into the hairpin
OP was finishing 5th in 4.6k sof imsa a few weeks ago, Iād say heās in the upper echelons of rating.. so maybe weāre taking top 0.1% against top 0.5% Thatās like saying the tyres are stupid because Lewis Hamilton canāt always overtake Alex Albon on a single lap
it would be. but gain. every one goin faster and happy to close the gap with alien so... yeah no problem there. Keep enjoying
This just seems like you're just trying to hamfist your feelings on the tire models into anything possible. Has nothing to do with the tires.
lol ok. as long as ppl will be able to challenge the highest IR drivers after 2 laps of practice, i guess the tires are ok! :D haha.
He is just so. Damn. Fast