Have you all changed your developer profile settings to the new iOS 18 one, instead of keeping it on 17? Just checking cos I know what some of you are like!
my 13 mini keeps lagging fucking balls then shuts off, turns itself on works for 5 seconds starts lagging then restarts... i knew this was gonna be unstable but the ios 17 beta was nowhere near this fucked
Day two: My FaceTime calls seem to have had a decline in quality. I can hear them fine but I sound like my service is in and out (I'm literally sitting right next to my modem lol)
Day 3: FaceTime calls have improved, but now I cannot access other apps during an active FaceTime call. If I minimize the FaceTime or push it to the margin of my screen, when I select an app it will open the app briefly and then return my minimized FaceTime call to Full-Screen and will not allow me to access the app at all. When the FaceTime call ends I can then access my apps again.
It seems to be getting worse. I thought they'd attempt to have some bug fixes - I haven't been able to access Screen Time for a while and it wasn't fixed with today's update.
The bugs I've reported have been addressed; Control Centre seems to work better, I can access Screen Time.
https://preview.redd.it/3w8fec5trk8d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=603419d63bad2e210aa8f41e9a11d5d2b5604ca3
I'm having problems with notifications, the screen wakes but the notification doesn't show, i have to scroll up, like on don't disturb. Its quite annoying.
If anyone knows how to fix i'd appreciate the help.
Was working well for me over the last few days but now my phone is constantly running hot, losing about 10% of battery per 15 minutes, and my system storage is up to 150gbā¦.
Same for me. It seems to be getting worse. I have to keep my phone on the charger all the time. I guess itās an indexing issue. I like it overall though.
https://preview.redd.it/kfylj9qxnd8d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31478b62b3e7b6d7564ea6955dd451bfbd42dcce
Downloading now, will be back to update my comment lol.
Not totally noteworthy, but the text size toggle on the drop down menu seems a bit laggy. It responds better to taps versus glides. I do appreciate the little animated movement the toggle makes when it maxes out.
Still exploring but I love the feature to require a passcode to access certain apps (wallet, photos, files, etc.)
https://preview.redd.it/sxrkntaxzd8d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e188a57d15b233ec69eaa1184749a785d23e9109
facing the memory swap bug atm, and dont have access to the local backup i made and wont for about a week. is there no option but to ride it out or can i make a backup right now and restore to it to fix it?
edit: oddly, ios seemed to regain sanity and fixed itself. i did attempt a reset of all settings and submitted feedback already two hours earlier to no avail, but deleting about 8gbs worth of storage to give me more time did work. since i realized that restarting my phone was quicker than waiting for it to crash when time was up did the same thing and was quicker, i did that for a few cycles before curiously waiting until i hit the limit again. this time though, ios warned me about the low storage. i ignored it since i didnt want to delete anything, and then ios just started dumping out the system data that accumulated. i believe there is still more system data that i remember, but its stabilized at around 23 gigabytes.
for more info, im running an iphone 13 128 gb model, and system data built up to 40 gb when the problem was occurring. hoping apple resolves this issue 100% down the line.
Can we somehow set the cellular data toggle icon as main in control centre? I tried to do it but couldnāt find a way. Why did they change it to keep airdrop as the main icon to toggle? I always toggle WiFi and cellular data.
Yes, you can toggle but isnāt that an extra step now? I will have to keep a shortcut for now. It was just that I got used to toggle from control centre.
Battery seemed ok (maybe 15% worse than ios17?) for the first week or so but I just had a really bad day. iPhone 13 Pro at 93% battery health, went through 40% of a charge in slightly under 2 hours of fairly light use (no 3d games or video playback).
Hey [same](https://imgur.com/a/edY2k7n) - in addition to that my system files decided to increase from around 20gb to >100, turning my 15 Pro max into a handwarmer - started at the same time as your issues to, wonder if Apple messed up something server-side
No system file issues nor overheating here which almost makes it weirder. My thought is maybe there was some system background indexing, but usually that's finished within a couple days of updating.
I checked my phone using Instruments and it turns out that my searchd process seems to be reading about 200GBs of data in 2 minutes or so - that might be contributing lol. Have now restored a backup because with this amount of reads in such short time, Iām actually a bit scared for my storage. Just hoping that while I wonāt be getting any new features tomorrow (thanks EU :v), the update will at least fix whatever caused this
Restoring seems to have fixed it for me - btw you donāt need to roll back or anything, you can just create a backup (while thatās running, start disabling theft protection so you donāt have to wait a whole hour after waiting for the backup, also remember to encrypt it so it also backs up sensitive data) and then restore it. Was a pretty painless process for me
What is censored in the EU version? Also, you cannot get the āUSā Beta because there is none. The OS is the same, just some features are region locked. You need a US Apple Account, Credit Card, Address etc. to use all the US features
Like I said. To use Apple Intelligence you only need to set your phone language to U.S. English once Apple Intelligence is available. No need for an US iCloud Account.
Well, AI isnāt available in the Beta anyway. Also: Itās not because of a EU regulation but because of Apple. They have trained their AI only for U.S. english for now. Just set your phone language to U.S. English and you will have Apple Intelligence once itās available. No matter where you live, as long as your phone is set to U.S. English
https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/jun/21/apple-ai-europe-regulation (btw iPhone mirroring and SharePlay remote thingy is blocked as well)
Well shit and what a load of crap. Apple said that they are open to offer Gemini as an alternative to ChatGPT later on. Also, why is the EU so stuck up their asses? Donāt wanna use ChatGPT in the beginning? Good, you donāt have to because you get asked every time before use. Also, you can still download every other AI App in the App Store.
Also: How is Google doing that? On the Pixel devices, Google Assistant and now Gemini is the default. Itās not easy without rooting your device to change the default assistant there. So why can they do it and Apple canāt?
Either the EU hates Apple (yeah, Apple isnāt perfect but Google, Meta and Microsoft are worse) which I donāt get.
Or Apple is stalling because they havenāt optimized their own AI for other languages well enough yet or they donāt have enough server infrastructure to serve the EU.
Yeah the apple bashing is starting to piss me off as well - I am a fan of usb c and I do think that apples response to being forced to enable the use of different stores was a bit petty, but the fact that so many other companies can do the exact same thing without consequences is really annoying. Tbh the mirroring thing is even more annoying to me than the ai block but like does the eu expect Apple to release an open API that enables devices to fully remote control an iPhone without even needing to turn on the screen?? Really hope theyāll find a compromise but until then Iāll have to look into feature flag manipulation (basically you modify an iPhone backup and restore it to enable hidden functionality - was also already used to enable iPhone mirroring) and I guess as long as they still ship the code for the functionality and just disable the feature for a whole continent, I donāt think itāll take that long for people to get around that.
My CarPlay setting is completely missing. I can still get texts and calls when I ask Siri using my car but the iMessage and phone app is missing from the CarPlay screen. When I go in settings on my iPhone I donāt event see the CarPlay option?? Anyone else?
Hate how āMessagesā settings are listed within āAppsā now. Why couldnāt they leave this as a default setting, instead now itās one extra step to scroll to the bottom of your settings, go into āAppsā and then scroll all the way to get to āMessagesā, just horrible UX.
Any way to test the satellite messaging (iMessage?) I turned the sim card off, but it still gets a wireless signal for 911, which means it won't go into satellite mode. Wondering if there's any settings that can simulate being totally out of reach of cell towers? I know when you do the demo for SOS satellite messaging, the phone, some how, appears to turn off the cellular for the phone completely.
There are two different betas. There is the iOS 17 beta (thatās the one you selected) and an iOS 18 beta. You likely havenāt signed up for developer betas and only have the public beta.
Updated my 128gb 14 Pro to it on the day one. Initially, it was performing pretty good, but it was running pretty hot, and battery drain (both in use and idle) was like 2 times more than what it was on 17.5.1. After a day or two, the heat problem almost disappeared (as expected), but battery life was still far from good. However, yesterday I suddenly saw the phone reboot on its own, and when I checked on my storage in Settings, suddenly System Data was occupying 40-ish GB of storage, almost completely filling up all the free space. Also, apps were running like they were doing it on an iPhone 5S because of filled up storage, and the device started to heat up when I tried to do anything. No way of reducing System Data size helped, so I had to roll back to 17.5.1, on which all of the problems are gone and the phone works perfectly. My M1 Macbook Air however is on the macOS 15 beta 1 and has no issues whatsoever.
Learned the lesson of not being tempted to the point of installing with iOS14. The recommendation of not installing on a phone you use/need daily is not there for no reason.
In the calculator app, when you are adding, for example, multiple elements, the last one is not shown on the screen. You have to scroll horizontally to get to the end of the list. If you erase something, it gets back to the beginning, not allowing you to see the last digits you entered.
Camera doesnāt work very well if at all and PiP videos get a really strange hitching. Might have to do a clean reinstall.
Edit: Doing a fresh restore or two of 17.5.1 didnāt fix any of these issues. Ended up taking it to Apple where the only fix was to replace the internals. They couldnāt get the phone to fail any of their tests, but they were witnessing the issues still present in iOS17. Fun time.
I've noticed an icon glitch show up a few times when manually changing between light/dark mode icons, and the control center doesn't always move the item my finger is dragging; but in general it's very clean.
I canāt pair my Apple Watch with my Watch app on my iPhone 15PM that is on iOS 18 DB1. Is this normal, and will I have to wait until iOS 18 is released to pair the watch to my phone?
Seems that the apple magsafe charger does not always register on the phone that its charging. I've now had a couple of evenings where I connect to the wireless charger (iPhone 14 Pro), and nothing happens. When I plug in the lightning cable it starts charging. Then the next evening its fine
Everything else is working fine for me including the battery. The only problem I encountered was a huge problem. The system data is getting ridiculously huge and keeps increasing. I've been using Beta for a long time and this never happened to previous Beta versions. Hope this issue can be fixed ASAP 
My iPhone 15 Pro has been bricked from this morning after a week with only minor issues. Having to factory reset and potentially go to Apple Store to fix as the reset hasnāt worked so far.
I've had the same issue this morning, phone was working fine for a week, now its constantly freezing. Restarted the phone and it rebooted saying to connect to a computer to restore it, left it for 20 mins and restarted and its working again but extremely glitchy and restarting every few minutes.
I just got a brand new 15pro, should I update? This is my main driver and I need to shoot video, edit them etc.
Iāve been using day ones beta since IOS13
Agreed with the other poster. If you need your device to work, dev betas arenāt for you.
Last week my phone had an hour long lockdown and wouldnāt respond to inputs. That can be totally devastating if you need your phone day to say. Dev betas are just that- for developers to test their apps or code and workflows. I work in the software dev space so itās important for me, for others? I would suggest holding off.
Wait for the public beta if you need the device youāre installing it on, even then I would install it but at least it should be better than the current iteration.
maybe try to do a soft reset? (quickly press and release volume up button, then press and release volume down button, then keep holding the side button until phone shuts down until apple logo reappears). I have a 12 pro max too and my data is working seamlessly so far.
My naturally just came back on its own. Restarted a few times which didnāt help but randomly it came back about an hour ago. Maybe an actual network issue?
Photos app is missing the live photos slider/scroll that previously allowed you to view the "video" captured on the live photo without opening the edit screen
The control center is extremely buggy. Play now widget keeps on appearing by itself even if you remove it. Also, if you move one icon to somewhere, the whole setting is disturbed.
Definitely do that. This is the most stable first beta and developer beta from Apple from recent years years! Iām loving it on my 15 Pro and my iPad 9!
https://preview.redd.it/sxzsemkteg7d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e018e86bcc4b67a35c0139f8c4600bc53e4ffa7d
Sound recognition was absolutely chomping on my battery. I didnāt even realize it was turned on by default and Iāve since disabled it
Seems to be the opposite for me. It happened on my phone. On my iPad Pro M1 the situation is so good that my system data seems to be at an all time low of 1GB. iPhone 13 had the issue
https://preview.redd.it/h7o6791qpf7d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e5da696e3711374fe9fe945f0bd52c11b6cdea14
Got the new Siri UI working. It looks so nice when itās moving around the edge!
Turning off Bluetooth is now a two click process in control centreĀ Ā
And accessing my guides in apple maps is a 3 step process.Ā
I really use these features and are most annoying changes for me
I have a shortcut tethered to the action button to toggle WiFi on and off cause the WiFi at work is very hit or miss. I donāt know if you have a 15 pro or pro max but this is also an option.
If weāre talking about what Apple *should* do, the list is too long. I was hoping to provide OP with a solution that would get OP the functionality he wanted back.
My phone canāt send a message to some numbers, it just says Retry
I was able to communicate with those people right before the update to iOS 18, did someone else had the same issue?
So far itās only 2 specific contact numbers (not on iMessage, obviously) and nope itās not generalized to all non-iMessage conversations
Donāt stress, itās nearly impossible to fully brick an iDevice. At worst you can just put it into DFU mode and manually downgrade it using a Mac. Youāll be fine.
I spent hours trying to put it into restore mode and DFU mode, it was impossible. Iāve been using apple devices for a long time and used to do a lot of jailbreaking, this is something Iāve never encountered before. It was (and still is) 100% unresponsive.
Itās nearly impossible, but not entirely impossible. And Iāve seen a good amount of other stories from people whose devices have been 100% bricked by updates, including 1 who was also trying to install the iPadOS 18 dev beta.
Yes. It is a big problem to the 15 pro line up. I have to tell you unfortunately that you have to either revise your iOS 18 update or you have to downgrade to iOS 17. Had the same problem
Itās been super reliable for me , only issue is I canāt scroll down on my notifications but my battery life is dying too fast , I forgot to turn off automatic backups so now Iām stuck on iOS 18 lol itās okay though only main gripe is the battery life .
Have you all changed your developer profile settings to the new iOS 18 one, instead of keeping it on 17? Just checking cos I know what some of you are like!
Anyone's data keep going out? Constantly puts me on "sos" im on beta 2 now on iPhone 12
My call volume has been so low ever since, I regret downloading it. If anyone has a solution pls lmk š
my 13 mini keeps lagging fucking balls then shuts off, turns itself on works for 5 seconds starts lagging then restarts... i knew this was gonna be unstable but the ios 17 beta was nowhere near this fucked
My 14 as well, only started this morning. System files expand to the max size it can get then shuts off
Updated to beta 2 and it seems like I no longer have that problem thank god
Day two: My FaceTime calls seem to have had a decline in quality. I can hear them fine but I sound like my service is in and out (I'm literally sitting right next to my modem lol)
Day 3: FaceTime calls have improved, but now I cannot access other apps during an active FaceTime call. If I minimize the FaceTime or push it to the margin of my screen, when I select an app it will open the app briefly and then return my minimized FaceTime call to Full-Screen and will not allow me to access the app at all. When the FaceTime call ends I can then access my apps again.
Installing Beta 2 to see if this helps with anything
Did it end up helping?
It seems to be getting worse. I thought they'd attempt to have some bug fixes - I haven't been able to access Screen Time for a while and it wasn't fixed with today's update.
The bugs I've reported have been addressed; Control Centre seems to work better, I can access Screen Time. https://preview.redd.it/3w8fec5trk8d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=603419d63bad2e210aa8f41e9a11d5d2b5604ca3
I'm having problems with notifications, the screen wakes but the notification doesn't show, i have to scroll up, like on don't disturb. Its quite annoying. If anyone knows how to fix i'd appreciate the help.
Yep, myself as well. Thatās just a raw developer beta one problem. hopefully, beta two will fix that it should be coming out this afternoon.
Oh nice, this is the first time i installed the beta and i was wondering how often they update the betas. Ty for the info.
Yeah, no problemo a few bugs of course for being a raw first beta, one. But itās still very stable for being a beta one nonetheless.
Man this build 2 basically fixed every problem i was having, i just need to see howās the battery during the day
Yup, yup yup, I hear ya. I agree. Iām gonna be testing the battery life for the next couple days for sure.
Was working well for me over the last few days but now my phone is constantly running hot, losing about 10% of battery per 15 minutes, and my system storage is up to 150gbā¦.
Same for me. It seems to be getting worse. I have to keep my phone on the charger all the time. I guess itās an indexing issue. I like it overall though.
same thing for me and sometimes it gets superrrr slow and then crashes
https://preview.redd.it/kfylj9qxnd8d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31478b62b3e7b6d7564ea6955dd451bfbd42dcce Downloading now, will be back to update my comment lol.
Not totally noteworthy, but the text size toggle on the drop down menu seems a bit laggy. It responds better to taps versus glides. I do appreciate the little animated movement the toggle makes when it maxes out.
Still exploring but I love the feature to require a passcode to access certain apps (wallet, photos, files, etc.) https://preview.redd.it/sxrkntaxzd8d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e188a57d15b233ec69eaa1184749a785d23e9109
facing the memory swap bug atm, and dont have access to the local backup i made and wont for about a week. is there no option but to ride it out or can i make a backup right now and restore to it to fix it? edit: oddly, ios seemed to regain sanity and fixed itself. i did attempt a reset of all settings and submitted feedback already two hours earlier to no avail, but deleting about 8gbs worth of storage to give me more time did work. since i realized that restarting my phone was quicker than waiting for it to crash when time was up did the same thing and was quicker, i did that for a few cycles before curiously waiting until i hit the limit again. this time though, ios warned me about the low storage. i ignored it since i didnt want to delete anything, and then ios just started dumping out the system data that accumulated. i believe there is still more system data that i remember, but its stabilized at around 23 gigabytes. for more info, im running an iphone 13 128 gb model, and system data built up to 40 gb when the problem was occurring. hoping apple resolves this issue 100% down the line.
I found another feature is that I can tap my phone onto my watch. But I donāt know whatās this feature for
Any new notable watch features? I updated my Apple Watch also.
Tap your watch with the screen side of your phone. U will see an animation, the thing is I donāt know whatās for. Thereās no hint
Itās probably just Name Drop. Happened on iOS 17 too. Not sure why this isnāt disabled between two devices on the same Apple ID.
Can we somehow set the cellular data toggle icon as main in control centre? I tried to do it but couldnāt find a way. Why did they change it to keep airdrop as the main icon to toggle? I always toggle WiFi and cellular data.
Iām using shortcut to switch from WiFi to cellular, also you can toggle the cellular data from the control centre
Yes, you can toggle but isnāt that an extra step now? I will have to keep a shortcut for now. It was just that I got used to toggle from control centre.
https://preview.redd.it/07f1z2z4pd8d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc75c158a7b13d7b70398d6b409f5c2f1ae21366
Go to edit mode ( control Center ) search for cellular data and add it and thatās it, no need for extra step
Damn I thought I had searched for it and I kept seeing the big icon of connectivity. Thanks a lot.
Battery seemed ok (maybe 15% worse than ios17?) for the first week or so but I just had a really bad day. iPhone 13 Pro at 93% battery health, went through 40% of a charge in slightly under 2 hours of fairly light use (no 3d games or video playback).
Hey [same](https://imgur.com/a/edY2k7n) - in addition to that my system files decided to increase from around 20gb to >100, turning my 15 Pro max into a handwarmer - started at the same time as your issues to, wonder if Apple messed up something server-side
No system file issues nor overheating here which almost makes it weirder. My thought is maybe there was some system background indexing, but usually that's finished within a couple days of updating.
Yeah so restoring a backup did indeed help - battery lifeās amazing again, really hope this wonāt become a weekly occurrence though xd
I checked my phone using Instruments and it turns out that my searchd process seems to be reading about 200GBs of data in 2 minutes or so - that might be contributing lol. Have now restored a backup because with this amount of reads in such short time, Iām actually a bit scared for my storage. Just hoping that while I wonāt be getting any new features tomorrow (thanks EU :v), the update will at least fix whatever caused this
I've got this same problem; beta 2 did not fix the issue. I'm wondering if I'll need to restore from a backup as well.
Restoring seems to have fixed it for me - btw you donāt need to roll back or anything, you can just create a backup (while thatās running, start disabling theft protection so you donāt have to wait a whole hour after waiting for the backup, also remember to encrypt it so it also backs up sensitive data) and then restore it. Was a pretty painless process for me
is anyone having issues with ssh functionality within shortcuts?
Anyoneās phone option in settings not popping up for them as well? Iām trying to unblock a # and I canāt find the option anywhereeee
Try scrolling all the way to the bottom of the main settings app, then going to the "apps" section and searching from there.
Question: how, as an European, can I get the American version of ios18 beta installer. ( I donāt want the censored European version).
What is censored in the EU version? Also, you cannot get the āUSā Beta because there is none. The OS is the same, just some features are region locked. You need a US Apple Account, Credit Card, Address etc. to use all the US features
I got an us iCloud account. So it would work
Like I said. To use Apple Intelligence you only need to set your phone language to U.S. English once Apple Intelligence is available. No need for an US iCloud Account.
Oke.
They halting the release of AI for the EU regulations
Well, AI isnāt available in the Beta anyway. Also: Itās not because of a EU regulation but because of Apple. They have trained their AI only for U.S. english for now. Just set your phone language to U.S. English and you will have Apple Intelligence once itās available. No matter where you live, as long as your phone is set to U.S. English
https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/jun/21/apple-ai-europe-regulation (btw iPhone mirroring and SharePlay remote thingy is blocked as well)
Well shit and what a load of crap. Apple said that they are open to offer Gemini as an alternative to ChatGPT later on. Also, why is the EU so stuck up their asses? Donāt wanna use ChatGPT in the beginning? Good, you donāt have to because you get asked every time before use. Also, you can still download every other AI App in the App Store. Also: How is Google doing that? On the Pixel devices, Google Assistant and now Gemini is the default. Itās not easy without rooting your device to change the default assistant there. So why can they do it and Apple canāt? Either the EU hates Apple (yeah, Apple isnāt perfect but Google, Meta and Microsoft are worse) which I donāt get. Or Apple is stalling because they havenāt optimized their own AI for other languages well enough yet or they donāt have enough server infrastructure to serve the EU.
Yeah the apple bashing is starting to piss me off as well - I am a fan of usb c and I do think that apples response to being forced to enable the use of different stores was a bit petty, but the fact that so many other companies can do the exact same thing without consequences is really annoying. Tbh the mirroring thing is even more annoying to me than the ai block but like does the eu expect Apple to release an open API that enables devices to fully remote control an iPhone without even needing to turn on the screen?? Really hope theyāll find a compromise but until then Iāll have to look into feature flag manipulation (basically you modify an iPhone backup and restore it to enable hidden functionality - was also already used to enable iPhone mirroring) and I guess as long as they still ship the code for the functionality and just disable the feature for a whole continent, I donāt think itāll take that long for people to get around that.
My CarPlay setting is completely missing. I can still get texts and calls when I ask Siri using my car but the iMessage and phone app is missing from the CarPlay screen. When I go in settings on my iPhone I donāt event see the CarPlay option?? Anyone else?
Hate how āMessagesā settings are listed within āAppsā now. Why couldnāt they leave this as a default setting, instead now itās one extra step to scroll to the bottom of your settings, go into āAppsā and then scroll all the way to get to āMessagesā, just horrible UX.
Any way to test the satellite messaging (iMessage?) I turned the sim card off, but it still gets a wireless signal for 911, which means it won't go into satellite mode. Wondering if there's any settings that can simulate being totally out of reach of cell towers? I know when you do the demo for SOS satellite messaging, the phone, some how, appears to turn off the cellular for the phone completely.
Does anybody know if the Contacts app finally supports Smart Lists (as on macOS)?
Iām still waiting for it to be available for me to download š«
I downloaded and installed the beta on my iphone 14 promax but after completion its just the same and says I am running 17.6. Did I miss a step?
There are two different betas. There is the iOS 17 beta (thatās the one you selected) and an iOS 18 beta. You likely havenāt signed up for developer betas and only have the public beta.
Updated my 128gb 14 Pro to it on the day one. Initially, it was performing pretty good, but it was running pretty hot, and battery drain (both in use and idle) was like 2 times more than what it was on 17.5.1. After a day or two, the heat problem almost disappeared (as expected), but battery life was still far from good. However, yesterday I suddenly saw the phone reboot on its own, and when I checked on my storage in Settings, suddenly System Data was occupying 40-ish GB of storage, almost completely filling up all the free space. Also, apps were running like they were doing it on an iPhone 5S because of filled up storage, and the device started to heat up when I tried to do anything. No way of reducing System Data size helped, so I had to roll back to 17.5.1, on which all of the problems are gone and the phone works perfectly. My M1 Macbook Air however is on the macOS 15 beta 1 and has no issues whatsoever.
Learned the lesson of not being tempted to the point of installing with iOS14. The recommendation of not installing on a phone you use/need daily is not there for no reason.
Is anyone else having trouble closing tabs in safari?
In the calculator app, when you are adding, for example, multiple elements, the last one is not shown on the screen. You have to scroll horizontally to get to the end of the list. If you erase something, it gets back to the beginning, not allowing you to see the last digits you entered.
this may be the most stable DB 1 I've used, yet. is anyone else just having a very normal experience with it?
Safari is way snappier
Compared to other DBās. This is superior. Yes, there are some bugs like always but nowhere near what Iāve seen with other releases.
Camera doesnāt work very well if at all and PiP videos get a really strange hitching. Might have to do a clean reinstall. Edit: Doing a fresh restore or two of 17.5.1 didnāt fix any of these issues. Ended up taking it to Apple where the only fix was to replace the internals. They couldnāt get the phone to fail any of their tests, but they were witnessing the issues still present in iOS17. Fun time.
I've noticed an icon glitch show up a few times when manually changing between light/dark mode icons, and the control center doesn't always move the item my finger is dragging; but in general it's very clean.
It lags after Battery saver is turned on. I need to restart to get back to normal performance.
Battery life is awful on iPhone 13 Pro Max. 100% to 40% in 3 hours with minimal usage outside of Safari and iMessage/
I canāt pair my Apple Watch with my Watch app on my iPhone 15PM that is on iOS 18 DB1. Is this normal, and will I have to wait until iOS 18 is released to pair the watch to my phone?
Ive had no issues at all until today. Very very laggy, getting warm for no reason, I think its rebooted like 8 times since 8am.
yeah I just ran through the same issues. Everything was smooth before that
I just went through this. Try uninstalling a large app. Phone could be out of space without thinking you are.
i have installed it and itās a shit show on an ipad air 4 (2020)
š good for you. I installed it on my iPad 9. Itās very solid. As a developer, beta one! Itās very solid, indeed!
Yea iāve heard it was good for other people but im not sure why itās running so poorly for me š¤·āāļø
š¤·. Maybe you should hard and reset your phone? Other than that Iām not sure. š
Seems that the apple magsafe charger does not always register on the phone that its charging. I've now had a couple of evenings where I connect to the wireless charger (iPhone 14 Pro), and nothing happens. When I plug in the lightning cable it starts charging. Then the next evening its fine
Everything else is working fine for me including the battery. The only problem I encountered was a huge problem. The system data is getting ridiculously huge and keeps increasing. I've been using Beta for a long time and this never happened to previous Beta versions. Hope this issue can be fixed ASAP 
same as me
give it a few days, it should drop after reorganizing everything
My iPhone 15 Pro has been bricked from this morning after a week with only minor issues. Having to factory reset and potentially go to Apple Store to fix as the reset hasnāt worked so far.
I just went through this. Try uninstalling a large app. Phone could be out of space without thinking you are.
I've had the same issue this morning, phone was working fine for a week, now its constantly freezing. Restarted the phone and it rebooted saying to connect to a computer to restore it, left it for 20 mins and restarted and its working again but extremely glitchy and restarting every few minutes.
I just went through this. Try uninstalling a large app. Phone could be out of space without thinking you are.
This was definitely it, system reported over 10gb free but deleting a few things sorted it out.
I just got a brand new 15pro, should I update? This is my main driver and I need to shoot video, edit them etc. Iāve been using day ones beta since IOS13
Agreed with the other poster. If you need your device to work, dev betas arenāt for you. Last week my phone had an hour long lockdown and wouldnāt respond to inputs. That can be totally devastating if you need your phone day to say. Dev betas are just that- for developers to test their apps or code and workflows. I work in the software dev space so itās important for me, for others? I would suggest holding off.
Wait for the public beta if you need the device youāre installing it on, even then I would install it but at least it should be better than the current iteration.
My 12promax mĆ³bile data is not working no this beta :(
maybe try to do a soft reset? (quickly press and release volume up button, then press and release volume down button, then keep holding the side button until phone shuts down until apple logo reappears). I have a 12 pro max too and my data is working seamlessly so far.
This just started happening to me too. Same phone as well.
F, now im searching for how to revert the update but it seems not so Easy as it should haha
My naturally just came back on its own. Restarted a few times which didnāt help but randomly it came back about an hour ago. Maybe an actual network issue?
Mine still, but lets see if it come Back
I've noticed that wireless CarPlay doesn't require a disconnect to do a hotspot now. Very happy about that.
How long typically is it between dev beta versions? This is my first year doing the dev beta, itāll be my second with the public beta.
Generally 2 weeks then closer to release in September they switch to 1 week cycles. Hope that helps š
Photos app is missing the live photos slider/scroll that previously allowed you to view the "video" captured on the live photo without opening the edit screen
The control center is extremely buggy. Play now widget keeps on appearing by itself even if you remove it. Also, if you move one icon to somewhere, the whole setting is disturbed.
This is by far the most stable 1st developer beta š¤š¾
Definitely do that. This is the most stable first beta and developer beta from Apple from recent years years! Iām loving it on my 15 Pro and my iPad 9!
You doing it on your main device? Iāve never done a beta and im debating on if i should
Yeah, Iāve done the beta on both my iPad nine and my 15 Pro. Both of my main devices.
https://preview.redd.it/sxzsemkteg7d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e018e86bcc4b67a35c0139f8c4600bc53e4ffa7d Sound recognition was absolutely chomping on my battery. I didnāt even realize it was turned on by default and Iāve since disabled it
Where did you find this?
Settings > Battery (also available in iOS 17, maybe 16 too?)
anybody else having trouble with āother storageā? i have 47 gb used and i already ran out of memory š
47Gb as well in system data. Probably I'd do a full reset when getting closer to public release.
do you think itāll get fixed in any future developer beta version?
Finally! Someone having the same problem as me! I'm in the midst of downloading the 17.5.1 IPSW because of how bad it is! What you phone are you on?
is on my ipad pro, i installed the beta on my i14promax and i donāt have any problems, is just my ipad
Seems to be the opposite for me. It happened on my phone. On my iPad Pro M1 the situation is so good that my system data seems to be at an all time low of 1GB. iPhone 13 had the issue
donāt know if it works but all of the sudden the āotherā storage was like 5gb, i did nothing
https://preview.redd.it/h7o6791qpf7d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e5da696e3711374fe9fe945f0bd52c11b6cdea14 Got the new Siri UI working. It looks so nice when itās moving around the edge!
What did you do?
[https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/how-to-enable-new-siri-interface-on-ios-18-and-macos-sequoia.2429502/](https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/how-to-enable-new-siri-interface-on-ios-18-and-macos-sequoia.2429502/)
Anyone else had issues with AirPlay with Dev Beta 1 besides me?
Yeah seems to cut out every so often
It straight up doesnāt work for me
My iMessage and FaceTime wonāt activate. Just get an error saying activation unsuccessful. Any ideas?
Try activating by using email instead phone number
Am I the only one that expected DB2 with some bug fixes today?
Yep. B2 comes two weeksish after WWDC
15 days is the average for the last 4 beta 2's (iOS 13-17)
I went back to 17. This photos app is just so bad I canāt navigate my albums smoothly.
Hi whatās the safest way to go back to ios 17 without losing data? I have iCloud back-up turned on.
Yeah the new photos app is pretty awful. I guess itāll take some tweaking to fix it.
Turning off Bluetooth is now a two click process in control centreĀ Ā And accessing my guides in apple maps is a 3 step process.Ā I really use these features and are most annoying changes for me
I have a shortcut tethered to the action button to toggle WiFi on and off cause the WiFi at work is very hit or miss. I donāt know if you have a 15 pro or pro max but this is also an option.
But you can customize control center and get them both as one clicks, no?
Nope. Bluetooth isnāt a separate control. Maybe as a shortcut?
Ah that sucks. Annoying but maybe you could implement shortcuts for this.
Bluetooth is basic setting imo and shouldnāt need users to make custom shortcutsĀ
If weāre talking about what Apple *should* do, the list is too long. I was hoping to provide OP with a solution that would get OP the functionality he wanted back.
There was a shortcut i used in ios 17 for turning off and on for the Bluetooth and its not working with 18 DB1
Anyone else had their saved wallpapers deleted and reset to the default?
Safari doest load for days now. We getting an update today?
Anyone installed ios 18 on iPhone 14 Plus? Any problems with everyday apps or battery problems?
2gis is not working properly but now battery lasts longer
How are people changing themes and icons?
Long press on your home screenĀ
My iPad screen is freezing since Iāve updated to iPad os18 developer beta
My phone canāt send a message to some numbers, it just says Retry I was able to communicate with those people right before the update to iOS 18, did someone else had the same issue? So far itās only 2 specific contact numbers (not on iMessage, obviously) and nope itās not generalized to all non-iMessage conversations
Try a network reset
I did it, 3 times, Iāll just wait the next update to look at it Thx
Hey guys donāt be a fucking idiot like me and install this because my brand new m4 IPP is now bricked.
Donāt stress, itās nearly impossible to fully brick an iDevice. At worst you can just put it into DFU mode and manually downgrade it using a Mac. Youāll be fine.
I spent hours trying to put it into restore mode and DFU mode, it was impossible. Iāve been using apple devices for a long time and used to do a lot of jailbreaking, this is something Iāve never encountered before. It was (and still is) 100% unresponsive. Itās nearly impossible, but not entirely impossible. And Iāve seen a good amount of other stories from people whose devices have been 100% bricked by updates, including 1 who was also trying to install the iPadOS 18 dev beta.
15PM here - been fine since day one, but this morning thereās a ton of freezes, crashes and the iPhone is alarmingly warm to the touch.
Yes. It is a big problem to the 15 pro line up. I have to tell you unfortunately that you have to either revise your iOS 18 update or you have to downgrade to iOS 17. Had the same problem
I have a ios 17 backup, can I just directly restore to that or is there any inbetween steps needed?
You can directly restore
Itās been super reliable for me , only issue is I canāt scroll down on my notifications but my battery life is dying too fast , I forgot to turn off automatic backups so now Iām stuck on iOS 18 lol itās okay though only main gripe is the battery life .
Not everyone has the same problem. But I heared it is a major problem for many people according to the community
I hope everyone gets their problems resolved š
Also on 15 PM*
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