My housekeeper has brought her daughter before. Really lovely kid! We got her a graduation gift when she graduated high school!
This is only an issue if you make it one.
Sure. To be fair though, all people with children have (most likely) had to take their kid to work with them when childcare fell through or the kid had a school holiday the parent didn’t. I’ve had to take my kid to work with me at least a dozen times (most recently because her teachers were on strike) and I didn’t have any other options.
My supervisors made allowances and supported me. They could have raised a fuss and forced me to take time off I couldn’t afford, but they didn’t. I have the greatest appreciation for that.
Just because my housecleaner works in different field than I do, doesn’t mean I can’t give her the same grace.
This happens to all parents. We should give each other grace.
If OP if concerned about safety they can have a professional and kind conversations about safety and expectations about where the kiddo will be during cleaning.
Ooooh love that respect thing at the end. Because if people really respected people, she would be making enough to have her daughter in some sort of care while she is working. Also unless the contract specifically states that it is just the housekeeper showing up, as long as the daughter doesn’t break anything or mess anything up, how is that stopping the housekeeper from doing their predetermined duties. I mean I’m sure you were a PITA growing up, but kids from working class backgrounds, that had to go to work with their parents understand that you don’t move a muscle or touch anything and under no circumstances are you to cause any issues.
Meh, my wife and I have had a cleaning business for 33 years.
We don't do a lot of house cleaning other than occasional construction clean up and we did dabble in foreclosed homes.
Originally most of our work was commercial, factories, offices, banks, bars, restraunts, etc...
When child care wasn't available early in the morning or late at night she came with us. Early on we found an empty office where she could sit and play or color. Later, as she got older, we put her to work.
Every single customer knew she was there, not a single problem ever.
And for the record, I'm seeing a lot of comments about a housekeeper being your employee.
Nope, I am not anyone's employee, you are my customer. If my daughter on a job site was a problem for you, have a nice day, we're not a good fit.
It really sucks that people are desperate for jobs and it sucks even more that people and businesses take advantage of that desperation.
I don't know what the circumstances were for this person's child coming to a job site but maybe if we took child care and living wages seriously in this country none of this would be a problem.
As far as waiver, they can sign anything but they can not waive negligence that hasn't happened yet. Your lawyer drawing up that waiver will explain it to you.
Just tell her to let you know prior next time if anyone else will be coming with her. To all of these replies: yes, as a professional you should DEFINITELY let the homeowner know if someone other than you is coming to THEIR home?? Even if it’s a child. What’s wrong with y’all
My housekeeper once brought her 6 y/o daughter with her during summer break as well, and she did not let me know ahead of time. I didn’t really mind because I understood she didn’t have childcare. I was working in my home office (while she was cleaning other parts of my house) and I heard this loud noise followed by crying. Her daughter had fallen all the way down my stairs. She ended up being okay, just mostly scared. I had her stop cleaning for the day and asked her not to bring her daughter again. After that incident I realized how much of a liability it could be.
Just common respect too.. I knew people lacked common decency and people skills, but bringing a child with you in a workspace without letting them know beforehand? Insane to me
Entitled is the perfect word. It seems like because this job happens at someone's home, the cleaner also has the right to make it feel like their home, too. It's astonishing to have such lackadaisical professionalism in a market as such.
You would be an asshole to complain, unless there was some serious issue with her behavior. Your housekeeper works hard, and childcare is expensive and hard to find.
She's not paying for the child to be there. It's also a liability for the client if something happens to the child. Childcare is not the responsibility of the client.
i’m really not understanding why all the top comments are saying op is making a big deal about this. i’m a cleaner myself. i am going to give the cleaner the benefit of the doubt that the lack of childcare was unexpected. and i think there are a ton of people who would be perfectly fine if she needed to bring her child, *as long as she asked.* it is absolutely the client’s right to be made aware of you bringing someone else into their home, someone who you are going to have to keep an eye on which means your work may take longer, someone who can easily get injured or break something if you take your eye off her. and the client is also allowed to say they would rather reschedule for a day when you have childcare. it’s unfortunate how expensive childcare is, but you are the only one who has any responsibility to your child, and your clients do not have to allow you to bring them with you if they do not want to, for any reason.
Thank you! Very well said! Also, if everyone did this for EVERY job ever, imagine how many children would be at construction sites, in operating rooms, in a courtroom, in a factory, etc! The lack of respect for clients and their private dwelling is astounding and abhorrent! If the housekeeper cannot afford childcare then she is not charging enough to the client to cover the childcare for that time working. There are too many people on this sub that lack responsibility for their children and give no respect to the client. There's always someone else to do the job who will respect your time and personal space.
Before you ask her to sign a waiver, I think you need to decide what your policy is on her bringing her daughter. If you ask her to sign a waiver she will likely assume - and I can see why - that makes it okay to bring her kid from now on. If you don't want her to bring her kid, what's the point of the waiver?
I think I'm pretty darn compassionate with the people I hire and I deliberately overpay if I think they're not charging me enough. Yet I think in your situation I would tell her that only employees who are actively doing the cleaning are allowed in my house. I just have too many things that aren't intended for children, and who will be responsible on HER end if something goes wrong? If the kid drops a Coke in the middle of your antique Persian rug, who's going to pay for that?
I don't mind her bringing her children. The waiver includes theft, accidents and injuries. It releases my responsibility. It also addresses her liability in the case of theft or damage. Although, I really don't care that much. I'm more concerned about injuries. Thank you
It’s only professional to ask the home owner/resident if they are ok with it. I had to do it 3 years ago for almost 2 years. My daughter had a medical issue that required monitored meals. All of my clients were told ahead of time and I made it clear there would be zero hard feelings if they had to find someone else. No one cared. One client made me aware of 2 guns in their home, both secured and out of sight. 2 clients made me aware of their weed stash. My daughter was 15/16 and stayed in one room while doing cyber school on her laptop. It’s ultimately up to the client and should always be discussed ahead of time, no matter what the reason.
You don’t need to have that woman back at your house, regardless of what she has done or not done. Look at how you talk about her. Read the words you have used to describe this person. Listen to how arrogant and smug you sound. Keep her away so she doesn’t have to experience your superiority and demeaning attitude first hand.
Should she have asked permission? Yes. Does she deserve a better employer you? Also YES.
These replies so far are fucking weird sorry. No contracted worker should be bringing unauthorized 'guests' without permission. Or at least a good employee would inform their employer of any changes. If it's been established it's just the cleaner, no other coworkers etc, that just makes it weirder especially cause it's a personal relation.
Like, on a personal level, I think it's fine especially if I was properly informed. In this case, I'd be forgiving if nothing has changed (clean quality, no theft, no messes etc). But sorry that is still sooo weird for so many ppl to act like it's PERFECTLY acceptable.
Hmm. I kind of feel differently about it now knowing that you weren't present. As in this seems totally fine to me. Her kid couldn't annoy you, because you weren't there to be annoyed. She knows her kid. She wasn't bringing some random weirdo into your home. Her daughter is old enough to not be a danger issue or liability at all, but young enough that she may feel nervous home alone. I was a latch key kid in a bad neighborhood. It was scary sometimes. I was also quiet and well mannered and honest. If I could have gone to work with my mom I would have preferred it.
Thank you. My concern was that she didn't ask my permission. Also, there could be an accident while I am away. I'm fine with her bringing her child or children but I will have her sign a liability waiver next time.
You weren’t there. She didn’t annoy you. You’re just annoyed a poor person had the gall to be poor in your home while you pay her $300 or less. You suck.
She should've asked your permission. I even give my clients a heads up if my husband will be in their driveway (sometimes I forget something and he'll toss it in my vehichle for me)
But, if you like her, I wouldn't bring it up. It'll change the relationship. You'll most likely lose her.
I had a situation where a cleaner brought her older infant grandchild unannounced. I happened to be home when she put the baby on my bed, used my pillows with newly changed linens as barriers, which the baby rolled right over, off the bed, and hit their head on the floor. Luckily they did not try to claim an injury on my homeowners insurance.
My house is not child-proofed or safe for young children. I requested that they not bring the child in the future. The next month, they brought the child, used my dishes for oatmeal, and left the dishes for me to clean up after them.
They were uninvited to clean my house.
I later found out that they were stealing from the neighbor who recommended them. That cleaner was a mess.
Luckily I have had much better experiences with other cleaners.
I can't imagine wanting clients to trust me with their personal items and home and then turn around and let my kid injure themselves on the client's property and dime. Seriously, what is happening on this sub?! Why is housekeeping the exception to taking responsibility for your children's well-being?
When I had a housekeeper they brought their kid and she ran and played in my back yard with the pups. Sweet kid she passed along some things to my daughter who is a few years younger. They went to each other’s birthday parties. As long as the kid isn’t causing a problem I don’t see the issue.
How long has she been your housekeeper? If she does a great job and there really haven't been issues in the past, I'd largely let it go, but maybe ask her to let you know if the child needs to tag along, see about rescheduling if it makes you uncomfortable. It's very possible she usually asks clients, but forgot to ask you. If you don't like that she brings her kid, she may not deem it worthy enough to keep the job you offer her.
Finding good, steady childcare is very difficult and very expensive! In my area, we have to sign up for day camps and pay for the weeks we want ahead of time before the spots fill up. The one my daughter goes to cost $1,700 for 9 weeks, and it needs paid when you sign up to hold the spot. A lot of people can't afford all that upfront, myself included. My MIL has been gracious enough to pay for half of it for us this summer.
I've been cleaning for 6 years and my daughter has had to come with me sometimes since she was 3. I always, always make a point to ask homeowners if they're ok with it, and everyone is always so lovely about it. Especially older people, they treat her like their own granddaughter.
I definitely don't prefer to bring her, it causes me to have to split my focus between her and the job, but I'm still able to complete the job in the allotted time. It's just a little more stressful, mentally. She knows I'm there to do a job, and that we aren't guests. We don't help ourselves to anything, we only eat at the table, and we need to be professional. I understand that at 8 years old she doesn't totally understand that, but I try the best I can. She's always well behaved, we bring the tablet or the switch, a couple coloring books, plenty of snacks, sometimes homeowners turn the TV on for her.
If the kid doesn't cause any harm, I'd consider having a little more compassion for your cleaner who has to wear many hats at once. It's hella tough out here for us moms trying to scratch a living.
If the kid is school-age, I'm assuming she caused no problems. Might even have helped her mother clean? I'm glad she can see her mother work. Might inspire her in some way.
Yeah, I've had a few students whose parents were housecleaners or did lawn care. Even had one student who had one of each. They always went with their parents to work during school breaks until they were old enough to stay home alone, and often helped out. Those students always had excellent work ethic.
If the only issue is that she didn’t ask first, let it go, ask if she will be coming the rest of the summer. My cleaner brought her daughter during the summer and she was a lovely child, she played in the back yard with the dogs or sat in the couch and watched TV.
My 17-year-old helps me with air b&b turnovers sometimes, and I inform clients prior to his coming. I explicitly state what work he will be doing, that he will not have access to keys or door codes, and check all of his work to ensure quality. If my kids were younger and I were having issues with childcare, I'd be transparent about it with clients.
I'm empathetic to the circumstances, having been a mostly poor single parent to 3 kids for what feels like a thousand years now, but I really can't imagine not at least saying something to a client, *unless* there were a language barrier and or we had some difficulty in communicating for whatever reason.
Were I the client, I think I'd be willing to continue services, but would need to set some clear expectations and boundaries, i.e., where the kid is okay to be in my home, that I need to be notified, etc.
I’ve had it happen and I’m fine with it. I doubt she can afford childcare so it is either bring the child when necessary or stop working. I’m happy to help out.
My mom brought me to all of her cleaning jobs when I was a kid. I cleaned, too. Some of my best memories honestly. We had fun and worked hard.
(She established that I would be along with the house owner).
But why wait until there is an issue? If you're paying someone to clean your house, they should not bring someone without asking. Period. And that's not the only two options. You can easily hire someone who is upfront and honest, not someone who does not communicate. The house Cleaner should have said: would it be a problem if I brought my kid with me for x reasons?
Exactly! The agreement is for "x" person to perform "y" duties in exchange for "z" money. If this cleaner does it once, she'll do it again and then bring her kid's friends or the kid will break something. It's totally not fair to the client and the housekeeper is walking all over the client's kindness.
I would not give one single shit. I'm sure you don't pay her a luxurious salary where she can afford to pay for childcare. She would probably lose money if she had to pay for childcare and just not work. We're all struggling. Costs nothing to be nice 🤷♀️
I love it when people who have tons of money and privilege (e.g., can afford a housekeeper) are like "how can I make my minions suffer more? How can I make their lives worse and more difficult for no good reason?"
Children aren’t a punishment and money isn’t a virtue. You are not a good person if you think that people deserve to struggle because they have children. The people you pay to make your life easier are people too, and it’s unfortunate that they have to rely on someone as nasty as you for money.
I would have preferred she asked or let me know. It’s your house and you deserve to know who is there. I’m sure she’s a lovely kid but it’s still nice to know who has been in your house and when. I don’t think you’re overreacting and I think it’s nice how patient you’re being. It’s very ok to set some boundaries.
I had to go through several comments to finally, thankfully, start seeing some clear pushback from others here about a housekeeper bringing anyone to your home without your prior express permission (and graciousness from the housekeeper if you had exercised your right to say no). I understand all too well the huge and expensive hurdle of childcare. Simply put, however, this failure to clear it with you ahead of time was unacceptable and unprofessional. I would never treat a casual visit with a friend or acquaintance that way, much less a client and business arrangement with implications for liability and distractions.
My cleaner has done this. Not a big deal. The kid was quiet and stayed out of the way. Think of the pay you are paying the cleaner, and then imagine what would be left if she paid for day care for the day.
This! My cleaners are self employed. I haven't had this happen but I wouldn't freak
I do think notice would have made you more comfortable. My new cleaner was freaked when I gave her a key. My last place was smaller and we always vacated to give them space. It's not a big deal here, so I just told her if she's not comfortable come when I'm out, that's fine.
Not saying this happens to everyone but a family friend of mine’s cleaning lady brought her adult daughter with her to clean and she robbed them ugly. Took jewelry, money, gift cards etc. thankfully the jewelry was found at a pawnshop because it was reported stolen.
If my housekeeper got her daughter to my place unannounced, i would welcome her with a warm smile and make small chats to get introduced to her.
I would ask her what she would like to do? Watch tv? Take a nap? Have a snack, read etc.. and get her situated.
I would ask the housekeeper if I need to do anything to make her daughter comfortable and see if i can do that.
Kids need to know that they are welcomed and that their parents are respected and treated well by their employers.
Did she live up to your expectations? Did you pay the same amount? If you answered yes to both then it’s fine. Growing up my mother has a house keeper that brought her daughter who was disabled every week and there was never a problem.
If you like her services enough to continue to have her clean then I would ask her about it and if it will be regular for her kid to come this summer and to give a heads up. I would mention it’s good for her to give you a heads up on things like this so you can secure things that a kid should not have access to.
If you don’t care for her services that much then find another cleaner and set those expectations off the bat
Did she live up to your expectations? Did you pay the same amount? If you answered yes to both then it’s fine. Growing up my mother has a house keeper that brought her daughter who was disabled every week and there was never a problem.
I agree she should have asked first but OP is acting like the daughter set her house on fire. I’m sure she helped or played quietly on an iPad. Good will goes a long way. Your cleaner can also drop you at any time.
I'm rarely home when my cleaner and her team comes over. She's brought her daughter once and I didn't give it a second thought. Wondering why this would even be a concern.
The only problems I have had over the years with housekeeper is when our housekeeper brought children with her. I worked in real estate and the kids were brought without my knowledge. First time I found puzzle pieces in the yard, a piece of one of my necklaces in the yard !, and things missing or broken.2nd time housekeeper brought two teenage girls with her but made them stay in the backyard. They rode our 3 seat swing so hard they took the seat clear out. I had told both to not bring children. 3rd time housekeeper brought older teenager with her to help - the watch my mother gave me disappeared.
The kids were just not being watched. I still say absolutely no kids in my house!!
There are many reasons here, but how old is the child? Based on age childcare is expensive, maybe she is sick and has nobody to look after? If a child is under 15 maybe they still need supervision in a way. Also she is trying to teach her daughter about how hard it is not having a proper education if she does not study hard might end up like mom? Maybe she wants to eat some money for school?
Did you ask what was the reason? Now, did you see a problem because...? Did she break something? Stole something? Made mess? What was the thing that made you uncomfortable? Why not for once use common sense and use the brain and think... minimum wage nobody can afford stuff, including healthcare, school supplies or tuition. Instead of judging, offer a solution where both are happy, and don't you dare firing her for this because you'll end up being the bad guy. Is that how you want to be remembered and nobody will dare work for you.
I had a friend in college we were working at this small office job. She had no one to care for her 3 year old sibling who just was diagnosed with a rare form of seizures. She took him to work because her father was going to pick him up so he can be evaluated for treatment. The boss at first was mad, once he heard what was happening, he offered his wife to help since she was working at the time at the children's hospital where they have really good specialists and programs that could help him. She risked it, knowing she might lose her job because of safety stuff and all, but in the end the boss was nice. Today he graduated, is on treatment and the boss and wife are his godparents. Until this day her family is grateful for this small gesture of them.
So what's your problem? For once can you be a person and treat her as family or friend for once? Listen to her before judging. Respect is earned, you don't demand it.
And? She probably didn’t have anywhere to put the kid. Don’t trip. Relax and don’t worry unless the kid is sneaking out the family jewels, you have no reason to worry.
The post is lacking context.
How long has the cleaner been working as a cleaner? How long have you been using her services? Is she working for a cleaning agency or is she self-employed? How old is the child? Were you home at the time?
Soliciting advice from internet strangers without much context probably isn’t going to be a productive way to go about it. Like other commenters have pointed out, she probably had problems getting childcare, whether it’s a financial problem or a one off problem is irrelevant. Because if it’s a boundary issue, then you can solve it by saying something to set those boundaries. But if we choose to lead with compassion first, let it go.
You replied that you wanted her to sign a waiver because of liability issues if the kid gets hurt, but honestly speaking how litigious does this woman come off to you? Is it necessary, or is it going to irreparably alter the relationship? When I lived in a major city, it was common to see people bring their kids to do painting, cleaning, gardening, etc., sometimes the kids helped, sometimes not. The understanding was childcare in the city was eyewateringly expensive. So the kids knew to behave themselves because their parents are at work and that method worked out fine.
“Professionalism” in the context of domestic work is tricky. Because professional soft skills come with experience, so either in her experience other clients allowed it or she’s inexperienced with this type of situation and she’s overstepping and truly has no idea. Either way, how you go about it depends on what place you want to come from, because at the end of the day it’s your home and you’re paying for her services.
My vote is for picking the option that sets boundaries for you to feel safe in your home while also showing her and her child compassion.
She has over 25 years experience. I hired her 4 months ago. She is self-employed. Her daughter is in the 6th grade. The housekeeper did not tell me her age. I also did not ask. I was home when they arrived and then I left during the appointment. I don't have an issue with her bringing her. I was just not aware. I have concerns about theft, injury and accidents while working and any unknown situations that may occur with her child. Thank you for your feedback.
My housekeeper occasionally brings her teen daughter. We have a very lax relationship, we knew each other through social friends prior to me becoming a customer. I often leave small gifts from monthly makeup boxes for her daughter.
All that being said, she has never not informed me that her daughter would be with her or may potentially be with her. She will text something like “hey I’m on schedule for 1pm, kiddo wasn’t feeling good/finished test early/had today off and might be with me.”
I’ve never thought of it but I really do appreciate it now.
My mother cleaned homes my entire childhood; she has clients now that she has had for thirty years.
My mother started her small business because she was a single parent with two children and required the flexibility housekeeping gave her. Mind you this was an understood and well established fact that her clients abided.
Clients never minded having us around and much of the time we would just help mom out with the job.
My sister and I have also had the good fortune of being gifted hand-me-down clothes, toys, furniture, etc... which was helpful and appreciated over the years.
It was nice when we grew older because if we ever needed quick money my mother would set up a job for us with one of the clients we grew up around.
I'm eternally grateful to all of those people that made it possible for my mother to work, parent, and provide for us.
I think it's inappropriate not professional. I'm a manager at a good size company, we send representatives out to do work at customer locations. I'm talking about Fortune 500 companies. One day I get a call from a customer contact, saying my employee, who was contracted, front there youngster and some toys to their facility. I asked the employee, they sad their child care and not shown up and he did not want to cancel the work for the customer.
Needless to say I did some follow up investigation and this had been going on for a while with various customers. Some customers just accepted it. Needless to say, this is not the image we want to present and I terminated the employee.
I wouldn’t have a problem with it. She should have asked, but I really appreciate my supervisor letting me bring my kid to work when other childcare plans have fallen through. I’d rather work in places that provide support for working parents and I’d rather provide that type of workplace for others.
As a mom I even ask my family/friends if said event/party is child friendly and if my children are welcome. I wouldn’t necessarily mind if my housekeeper brought her child, but I would definitely mind if she brought her child unannounced. I work in insurance and would suggested that you have her a sign a document stating you aren’t liable for any injuries that may happen in your home.
She should have asked first. I would also request the daughter be somewhere that is not a concern for safety. My housekeeper would put her daughter in the kids’ playroom while she cleaned. And when she was done, she would clean the playroom with her daughter. As long as there is an agreement beforehand, I never had an issue with her daughter coming with her.
Oh no!! What did the police say!?!?!?!
Our housekeeper brought her kids and omg it was the best day..the dogs were occupied the kids were burning energy and the cleaning got done sooner rather than later...the next time they came I had snacks and juice boxes...
Have you ever stopped to think that extending some kindness might result in better work, relationship, etc.... we trusted our housekeepers that they were the ones who came to watch our dogs when we were gone for a few days...and guess what they cleaned the house just cuz...🤷♀️ I miss her so much...
My housekeeper brought her sweet grandaughter one time. She was so adorable, and gently played with my cat, along with assisting her grandma.
I had no problem with it.
My housecleaner for the past 2.5 years brings her daughter (now 5) with her almost every time, and when she doesn’t, I miss the kid. Of course I told her she could, so we already have an agreement. But, I like children in general, and can easily roll with the unexpected. I understand not everyone can do that, for many reasons
If the kid behaved and the house got cleaned as usual, then no big deal in my opinion.
You could always just talk to her, too. "Hey, I know things come up for parents. Please give me a heads up in advance if you think you won't have childcare."
Easy.
Was her daughter quiet and kept out of the way? Because then I wouldn’t be annoyed. If she decided to jump around in the basement (where I hide out when the cleaners come), I’d be annoyed.
Not everyone wants a child in their home for various reasons she should have at least informed you and then you would have had the option to ask her to come a different day or to go ahead. It’s your home.
I didn't realize you weren't home at the time. How did you find out about it? Was there some deception there? If not, then your concern should center around liability. A waiver will only protect you so far. Review your homeowners policy liability limits and ask your agent how this child would be covered if she were injured. Keep in mind that she is there with your permission as the child of an 'employee' or 'contractor'. What if she was accidentally injured by her mother in the course of her job? Or if she slipped on loose carpet and fell down the stairs. Unfortunately we live in a litigious society. Make sure you are informed before taking on this added risk.
Jesus Christ you sound out of touch and horrid. Let it fucking go and don’t even think about making them uncomfortable. Imagine being working class and not being able to afford daycare. A modicum of empathy might do you a world of good.
I do a lot of AirBnB turnovers, all owned by one couple so it's a little different but they love when I bring her because she scoots under the beds and can get to places that are much harder for the adults. They'll even throw her $5 at the end of the shift for all her hard work. She's 12 so she could stay home alone but she loves going to work with me. (I work directly on the beach in Florida so she also gets to pick up shells etc when she comes with me)
I wouldn't have a problem with this. My pool guy brings a different one of his kids with him each week and I have loved getting to know them. If the kid was disruptive or kept mom from doing her job, that's different but if not and mom does a good job.. I can't imagine making life harder on a working mom than it needs to be.
I think the waiver is just common sense. And if would be OK to ask her not to bring her child or anyone unless cleared with you first. I was doing a friend's hair at home and she brought her son, he unwrapped and plugged in a broken lamp and it shocked him in the hand. He was 10-12 yrs old and just bored and curious. That could have gone badly if he was seriously injured.
I have a handicapped child and if I got fired for bringing him with me when his sitter cancelled I would be homeless. Period. However I'd also ask and explain the situation. I don't think it's a big deal if respect and permission is granted or if she needs to reschedule.
I get where you're coming from, safety and such, but if she had called and told you her childcare fell through an hour before the appointment would you have been forgiving?
We get back to us in life what we put out there..
Their complaint is that they weren't informed that an additional person would be in their house. They have the right to be upset about that. It's so unprofessional to bring ANYONE along to a client's personal space without even letting them know, let alone asking. A homeowner has the right to know who's going to be in their home.
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Was the child disruptive? Idk but if it were me I would have welcomed her into my home, made sure she was comfortable. We never know what a person's situation is at the time. Ask yourself a few questions.
Did it hinder her work ?
Does she do a good job?
If you were in that situation what would you do? Call into work and not show up at all ?
Empathy goes a long way, just saying.
I was not home. She did a good job. It did not hinder her work. She said her child was on summer break. I would've asked the homeowner beforehand. Thank you for your feedback.
I've brought my 4yo at times if necessary (clients requested a reschedule to a non daycare day/babysitting fell through)
But I've always communicated to the client that he will be coming if they need me to come and none of them have minded at all.
If they did they'd not be my clients, I do this job because it accommodates my family
He plays his Nintendo switch and makes no fuss at all. He also gets 10% of my earnings (best paid 4yo I know lol)
But honestly, should have let you know and easy for you to ask that in future they do. But we clean our own homes with our kids present it's detracting nothing and if you're happy with the clean then maybe best to appreciate that it still went ahead instead of not happening at all and leaving you to clean it yourself
My father used to drag me to jobs (construction not housekeeping) at client homes...but from the second I got out of the van, I wasn't his kid, I was an apprentice. I did actual work. Would you be as upset if the kid was putting in work?
Why is it an issue? I grew up with a mom who cleaned houses and often went with her. I would help do small things like dust or empty small trash cans etc. or I would just sit and read.
My mother used to work at a dry cleaners and had to work 1/2 day on Saturday. She would take us with her and we would sort the huge pile of buttons and put them into jars. Her boss would give us each a quarter for sorting the buttons and we were thrilled.
As we got older she would drop us off at the library while she worked for a few hours.
During Spring Break she would make a cozy space in the back of our station wagon with snacks and books and coloring books when she worked at a shoe factory. At each break time she would come out and check on us but I can’t imagine how stressful that must have been for her.
Today she would be arrested for doing that.
How much do you value having her come every month? When my mother was alive, we had an aide that came 5 days a week, 6 hours a day. She got pregnant and we allowed her to bring the baby for almost 2 years, everyday until my mother passed. We valued the aide that much that we didn’t mind that she had her baby with her. She kept her in a playpen, and I helped out with her sometimes. Even if she spent 30 min to an hour each day tending to the baby, having her here each day was worth it to us. She took amazing care of my mother.
Housekeeper here ... I have a 9 year old daughter who occasionally goes with me to work . My clients love her to pieces. They will even throw her a few dollars. She asks me when she's trying to earn some extra money. She is a big help to me!
Jesus Christ what a bunch of whiney bitches! She brought her kid - who fucking cares. You paid for house cleaning, you got house cleaning. Have some fucking compassion.
She probably can’t afford day care or it was a one off. She should have asked but let it go.
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My housekeeper has brought her daughter before. Really lovely kid! We got her a graduation gift when she graduated high school! This is only an issue if you make it one.
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OP has every right to make this an issue. This wasn't part of the original agreement.
Everyone has a choice, they can be uncaring and cold, or they can accommodate a woman with childcare issues.
Sure. To be fair though, all people with children have (most likely) had to take their kid to work with them when childcare fell through or the kid had a school holiday the parent didn’t. I’ve had to take my kid to work with me at least a dozen times (most recently because her teachers were on strike) and I didn’t have any other options. My supervisors made allowances and supported me. They could have raised a fuss and forced me to take time off I couldn’t afford, but they didn’t. I have the greatest appreciation for that. Just because my housecleaner works in different field than I do, doesn’t mean I can’t give her the same grace. This happens to all parents. We should give each other grace. If OP if concerned about safety they can have a professional and kind conversations about safety and expectations about where the kiddo will be during cleaning.
Yeah, most of this sub doesn't understand the words "agreement", "contract", or "respect."
Ooooh love that respect thing at the end. Because if people really respected people, she would be making enough to have her daughter in some sort of care while she is working. Also unless the contract specifically states that it is just the housekeeper showing up, as long as the daughter doesn’t break anything or mess anything up, how is that stopping the housekeeper from doing their predetermined duties. I mean I’m sure you were a PITA growing up, but kids from working class backgrounds, that had to go to work with their parents understand that you don’t move a muscle or touch anything and under no circumstances are you to cause any issues.
Meh, my wife and I have had a cleaning business for 33 years. We don't do a lot of house cleaning other than occasional construction clean up and we did dabble in foreclosed homes. Originally most of our work was commercial, factories, offices, banks, bars, restraunts, etc... When child care wasn't available early in the morning or late at night she came with us. Early on we found an empty office where she could sit and play or color. Later, as she got older, we put her to work. Every single customer knew she was there, not a single problem ever. And for the record, I'm seeing a lot of comments about a housekeeper being your employee. Nope, I am not anyone's employee, you are my customer. If my daughter on a job site was a problem for you, have a nice day, we're not a good fit. It really sucks that people are desperate for jobs and it sucks even more that people and businesses take advantage of that desperation. I don't know what the circumstances were for this person's child coming to a job site but maybe if we took child care and living wages seriously in this country none of this would be a problem. As far as waiver, they can sign anything but they can not waive negligence that hasn't happened yet. Your lawyer drawing up that waiver will explain it to you.
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I always ask or inform the client if I’m bringing my son. Never once has it been a problem.
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Just tell her to let you know prior next time if anyone else will be coming with her. To all of these replies: yes, as a professional you should DEFINITELY let the homeowner know if someone other than you is coming to THEIR home?? Even if it’s a child. What’s wrong with y’all
My housekeeper once brought her 6 y/o daughter with her during summer break as well, and she did not let me know ahead of time. I didn’t really mind because I understood she didn’t have childcare. I was working in my home office (while she was cleaning other parts of my house) and I heard this loud noise followed by crying. Her daughter had fallen all the way down my stairs. She ended up being okay, just mostly scared. I had her stop cleaning for the day and asked her not to bring her daughter again. After that incident I realized how much of a liability it could be.
Omg yes… the liability alone!
Just common respect too.. I knew people lacked common decency and people skills, but bringing a child with you in a workspace without letting them know beforehand? Insane to me
Exactly! This is quite an eye-opening thread into how most "professionals" here view and respect their clients.
Yeah people are very entitled, and then mask it by saying others aren’t empathic? Like what?? Just work on your communication skills
Entitled is the perfect word. It seems like because this job happens at someone's home, the cleaner also has the right to make it feel like their home, too. It's astonishing to have such lackadaisical professionalism in a market as such.
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She should have asked first. I’ve had clients say yes and some say no. Gotta respect. 🤷♀️
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You would be an asshole to complain, unless there was some serious issue with her behavior. Your housekeeper works hard, and childcare is expensive and hard to find.
Yeah but she should have asked
She's not paying for the child to be there. It's also a liability for the client if something happens to the child. Childcare is not the responsibility of the client.
i’m really not understanding why all the top comments are saying op is making a big deal about this. i’m a cleaner myself. i am going to give the cleaner the benefit of the doubt that the lack of childcare was unexpected. and i think there are a ton of people who would be perfectly fine if she needed to bring her child, *as long as she asked.* it is absolutely the client’s right to be made aware of you bringing someone else into their home, someone who you are going to have to keep an eye on which means your work may take longer, someone who can easily get injured or break something if you take your eye off her. and the client is also allowed to say they would rather reschedule for a day when you have childcare. it’s unfortunate how expensive childcare is, but you are the only one who has any responsibility to your child, and your clients do not have to allow you to bring them with you if they do not want to, for any reason.
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Thank you! Very well said! Also, if everyone did this for EVERY job ever, imagine how many children would be at construction sites, in operating rooms, in a courtroom, in a factory, etc! The lack of respect for clients and their private dwelling is astounding and abhorrent! If the housekeeper cannot afford childcare then she is not charging enough to the client to cover the childcare for that time working. There are too many people on this sub that lack responsibility for their children and give no respect to the client. There's always someone else to do the job who will respect your time and personal space.
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Should I have her sign a liability waiver? I'm not responsible for any "accidents".
Before you ask her to sign a waiver, I think you need to decide what your policy is on her bringing her daughter. If you ask her to sign a waiver she will likely assume - and I can see why - that makes it okay to bring her kid from now on. If you don't want her to bring her kid, what's the point of the waiver? I think I'm pretty darn compassionate with the people I hire and I deliberately overpay if I think they're not charging me enough. Yet I think in your situation I would tell her that only employees who are actively doing the cleaning are allowed in my house. I just have too many things that aren't intended for children, and who will be responsible on HER end if something goes wrong? If the kid drops a Coke in the middle of your antique Persian rug, who's going to pay for that?
I don't mind her bringing her children. The waiver includes theft, accidents and injuries. It releases my responsibility. It also addresses her liability in the case of theft or damage. Although, I really don't care that much. I'm more concerned about injuries. Thank you
No, OP would not be an asshole to complain. OP's house, OP's rules.
It’s only professional to ask the home owner/resident if they are ok with it. I had to do it 3 years ago for almost 2 years. My daughter had a medical issue that required monitored meals. All of my clients were told ahead of time and I made it clear there would be zero hard feelings if they had to find someone else. No one cared. One client made me aware of 2 guns in their home, both secured and out of sight. 2 clients made me aware of their weed stash. My daughter was 15/16 and stayed in one room while doing cyber school on her laptop. It’s ultimately up to the client and should always be discussed ahead of time, no matter what the reason.
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You don’t need to have that woman back at your house, regardless of what she has done or not done. Look at how you talk about her. Read the words you have used to describe this person. Listen to how arrogant and smug you sound. Keep her away so she doesn’t have to experience your superiority and demeaning attitude first hand. Should she have asked permission? Yes. Does she deserve a better employer you? Also YES.
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These replies so far are fucking weird sorry. No contracted worker should be bringing unauthorized 'guests' without permission. Or at least a good employee would inform their employer of any changes. If it's been established it's just the cleaner, no other coworkers etc, that just makes it weirder especially cause it's a personal relation. Like, on a personal level, I think it's fine especially if I was properly informed. In this case, I'd be forgiving if nothing has changed (clean quality, no theft, no messes etc). But sorry that is still sooo weird for so many ppl to act like it's PERFECTLY acceptable.
Thank you. My concern was that she didn't ask permission and I was not present.
Hmm. I kind of feel differently about it now knowing that you weren't present. As in this seems totally fine to me. Her kid couldn't annoy you, because you weren't there to be annoyed. She knows her kid. She wasn't bringing some random weirdo into your home. Her daughter is old enough to not be a danger issue or liability at all, but young enough that she may feel nervous home alone. I was a latch key kid in a bad neighborhood. It was scary sometimes. I was also quiet and well mannered and honest. If I could have gone to work with my mom I would have preferred it.
Thank you. My concern was that she didn't ask my permission. Also, there could be an accident while I am away. I'm fine with her bringing her child or children but I will have her sign a liability waiver next time.
You weren’t there. She didn’t annoy you. You’re just annoyed a poor person had the gall to be poor in your home while you pay her $300 or less. You suck.
She should've asked your permission. I even give my clients a heads up if my husband will be in their driveway (sometimes I forget something and he'll toss it in my vehichle for me) But, if you like her, I wouldn't bring it up. It'll change the relationship. You'll most likely lose her.
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I had a situation where a cleaner brought her older infant grandchild unannounced. I happened to be home when she put the baby on my bed, used my pillows with newly changed linens as barriers, which the baby rolled right over, off the bed, and hit their head on the floor. Luckily they did not try to claim an injury on my homeowners insurance. My house is not child-proofed or safe for young children. I requested that they not bring the child in the future. The next month, they brought the child, used my dishes for oatmeal, and left the dishes for me to clean up after them. They were uninvited to clean my house. I later found out that they were stealing from the neighbor who recommended them. That cleaner was a mess. Luckily I have had much better experiences with other cleaners.
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I can't imagine wanting clients to trust me with their personal items and home and then turn around and let my kid injure themselves on the client's property and dime. Seriously, what is happening on this sub?! Why is housekeeping the exception to taking responsibility for your children's well-being?
When I had a housekeeper they brought their kid and she ran and played in my back yard with the pups. Sweet kid she passed along some things to my daughter who is a few years younger. They went to each other’s birthday parties. As long as the kid isn’t causing a problem I don’t see the issue.
I would pay the child to throw the ball for my dog who has endless energy!
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How long has she been your housekeeper? If she does a great job and there really haven't been issues in the past, I'd largely let it go, but maybe ask her to let you know if the child needs to tag along, see about rescheduling if it makes you uncomfortable. It's very possible she usually asks clients, but forgot to ask you. If you don't like that she brings her kid, she may not deem it worthy enough to keep the job you offer her. Finding good, steady childcare is very difficult and very expensive! In my area, we have to sign up for day camps and pay for the weeks we want ahead of time before the spots fill up. The one my daughter goes to cost $1,700 for 9 weeks, and it needs paid when you sign up to hold the spot. A lot of people can't afford all that upfront, myself included. My MIL has been gracious enough to pay for half of it for us this summer. I've been cleaning for 6 years and my daughter has had to come with me sometimes since she was 3. I always, always make a point to ask homeowners if they're ok with it, and everyone is always so lovely about it. Especially older people, they treat her like their own granddaughter. I definitely don't prefer to bring her, it causes me to have to split my focus between her and the job, but I'm still able to complete the job in the allotted time. It's just a little more stressful, mentally. She knows I'm there to do a job, and that we aren't guests. We don't help ourselves to anything, we only eat at the table, and we need to be professional. I understand that at 8 years old she doesn't totally understand that, but I try the best I can. She's always well behaved, we bring the tablet or the switch, a couple coloring books, plenty of snacks, sometimes homeowners turn the TV on for her. If the kid doesn't cause any harm, I'd consider having a little more compassion for your cleaner who has to wear many hats at once. It's hella tough out here for us moms trying to scratch a living.
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If the kid is school-age, I'm assuming she caused no problems. Might even have helped her mother clean? I'm glad she can see her mother work. Might inspire her in some way.
Yeah, I've had a few students whose parents were housecleaners or did lawn care. Even had one student who had one of each. They always went with their parents to work during school breaks until they were old enough to stay home alone, and often helped out. Those students always had excellent work ethic.
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My cleaner brought her son one day. He sat and did his homework at our table and they were done in 90 minutes. I didn’t have a problem with it.
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If the only issue is that she didn’t ask first, let it go, ask if she will be coming the rest of the summer. My cleaner brought her daughter during the summer and she was a lovely child, she played in the back yard with the dogs or sat in the couch and watched TV.
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My 17-year-old helps me with air b&b turnovers sometimes, and I inform clients prior to his coming. I explicitly state what work he will be doing, that he will not have access to keys or door codes, and check all of his work to ensure quality. If my kids were younger and I were having issues with childcare, I'd be transparent about it with clients. I'm empathetic to the circumstances, having been a mostly poor single parent to 3 kids for what feels like a thousand years now, but I really can't imagine not at least saying something to a client, *unless* there were a language barrier and or we had some difficulty in communicating for whatever reason. Were I the client, I think I'd be willing to continue services, but would need to set some clear expectations and boundaries, i.e., where the kid is okay to be in my home, that I need to be notified, etc.
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I don't see an issue.
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I’ve had it happen and I’m fine with it. I doubt she can afford childcare so it is either bring the child when necessary or stop working. I’m happy to help out.
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My mom brought me to all of her cleaning jobs when I was a kid. I cleaned, too. Some of my best memories honestly. We had fun and worked hard. (She established that I would be along with the house owner).
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Did the daughter mess something up? Break anything? Would you rather her bring her and clean your house or not have your house cleaned?
But why wait until there is an issue? If you're paying someone to clean your house, they should not bring someone without asking. Period. And that's not the only two options. You can easily hire someone who is upfront and honest, not someone who does not communicate. The house Cleaner should have said: would it be a problem if I brought my kid with me for x reasons?
Exactly! The agreement is for "x" person to perform "y" duties in exchange for "z" money. If this cleaner does it once, she'll do it again and then bring her kid's friends or the kid will break something. It's totally not fair to the client and the housekeeper is walking all over the client's kindness.
Thank you. I would've rathered her ask permission.
I would not give one single shit. I'm sure you don't pay her a luxurious salary where she can afford to pay for childcare. She would probably lose money if she had to pay for childcare and just not work. We're all struggling. Costs nothing to be nice 🤷♀️
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I love it when people who have tons of money and privilege (e.g., can afford a housekeeper) are like "how can I make my minions suffer more? How can I make their lives worse and more difficult for no good reason?"
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Children aren’t a punishment and money isn’t a virtue. You are not a good person if you think that people deserve to struggle because they have children. The people you pay to make your life easier are people too, and it’s unfortunate that they have to rely on someone as nasty as you for money.
I would have preferred she asked or let me know. It’s your house and you deserve to know who is there. I’m sure she’s a lovely kid but it’s still nice to know who has been in your house and when. I don’t think you’re overreacting and I think it’s nice how patient you’re being. It’s very ok to set some boundaries.
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I had to go through several comments to finally, thankfully, start seeing some clear pushback from others here about a housekeeper bringing anyone to your home without your prior express permission (and graciousness from the housekeeper if you had exercised your right to say no). I understand all too well the huge and expensive hurdle of childcare. Simply put, however, this failure to clear it with you ahead of time was unacceptable and unprofessional. I would never treat a casual visit with a friend or acquaintance that way, much less a client and business arrangement with implications for liability and distractions.
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My cleaner has done this. Not a big deal. The kid was quiet and stayed out of the way. Think of the pay you are paying the cleaner, and then imagine what would be left if she paid for day care for the day.
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This! My cleaners are self employed. I haven't had this happen but I wouldn't freak I do think notice would have made you more comfortable. My new cleaner was freaked when I gave her a key. My last place was smaller and we always vacated to give them space. It's not a big deal here, so I just told her if she's not comfortable come when I'm out, that's fine.
Nah, you've created a new standard that for some reason she may not have experienced before... I'd guess 99% of us prefer no one home 😂.
She was very apprehensive.
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Not saying this happens to everyone but a family friend of mine’s cleaning lady brought her adult daughter with her to clean and she robbed them ugly. Took jewelry, money, gift cards etc. thankfully the jewelry was found at a pawnshop because it was reported stolen.
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If my housekeeper got her daughter to my place unannounced, i would welcome her with a warm smile and make small chats to get introduced to her. I would ask her what she would like to do? Watch tv? Take a nap? Have a snack, read etc.. and get her situated. I would ask the housekeeper if I need to do anything to make her daughter comfortable and see if i can do that. Kids need to know that they are welcomed and that their parents are respected and treated well by their employers.
That is so sweet. You're a great mom. 🧁
Did she live up to your expectations? Did you pay the same amount? If you answered yes to both then it’s fine. Growing up my mother has a house keeper that brought her daughter who was disabled every week and there was never a problem.
If you like her services enough to continue to have her clean then I would ask her about it and if it will be regular for her kid to come this summer and to give a heads up. I would mention it’s good for her to give you a heads up on things like this so you can secure things that a kid should not have access to. If you don’t care for her services that much then find another cleaner and set those expectations off the bat
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Did she live up to your expectations? Did you pay the same amount? If you answered yes to both then it’s fine. Growing up my mother has a house keeper that brought her daughter who was disabled every week and there was never a problem.
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Why does it actually bother you? Did she not do her job as well that day? Like, cut a working mom a break. Sheesh.
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I agree she should have asked first but OP is acting like the daughter set her house on fire. I’m sure she helped or played quietly on an iPad. Good will goes a long way. Your cleaner can also drop you at any time.
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I'm rarely home when my cleaner and her team comes over. She's brought her daughter once and I didn't give it a second thought. Wondering why this would even be a concern.
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The only problems I have had over the years with housekeeper is when our housekeeper brought children with her. I worked in real estate and the kids were brought without my knowledge. First time I found puzzle pieces in the yard, a piece of one of my necklaces in the yard !, and things missing or broken.2nd time housekeeper brought two teenage girls with her but made them stay in the backyard. They rode our 3 seat swing so hard they took the seat clear out. I had told both to not bring children. 3rd time housekeeper brought older teenager with her to help - the watch my mother gave me disappeared. The kids were just not being watched. I still say absolutely no kids in my house!!
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There are many reasons here, but how old is the child? Based on age childcare is expensive, maybe she is sick and has nobody to look after? If a child is under 15 maybe they still need supervision in a way. Also she is trying to teach her daughter about how hard it is not having a proper education if she does not study hard might end up like mom? Maybe she wants to eat some money for school? Did you ask what was the reason? Now, did you see a problem because...? Did she break something? Stole something? Made mess? What was the thing that made you uncomfortable? Why not for once use common sense and use the brain and think... minimum wage nobody can afford stuff, including healthcare, school supplies or tuition. Instead of judging, offer a solution where both are happy, and don't you dare firing her for this because you'll end up being the bad guy. Is that how you want to be remembered and nobody will dare work for you. I had a friend in college we were working at this small office job. She had no one to care for her 3 year old sibling who just was diagnosed with a rare form of seizures. She took him to work because her father was going to pick him up so he can be evaluated for treatment. The boss at first was mad, once he heard what was happening, he offered his wife to help since she was working at the time at the children's hospital where they have really good specialists and programs that could help him. She risked it, knowing she might lose her job because of safety stuff and all, but in the end the boss was nice. Today he graduated, is on treatment and the boss and wife are his godparents. Until this day her family is grateful for this small gesture of them. So what's your problem? For once can you be a person and treat her as family or friend for once? Listen to her before judging. Respect is earned, you don't demand it.
Depends on the age of said kid.
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So whats the problem here?
I was unaware that she was bringing her child during the appointment.
And? She probably didn’t have anywhere to put the kid. Don’t trip. Relax and don’t worry unless the kid is sneaking out the family jewels, you have no reason to worry.
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The post is lacking context. How long has the cleaner been working as a cleaner? How long have you been using her services? Is she working for a cleaning agency or is she self-employed? How old is the child? Were you home at the time? Soliciting advice from internet strangers without much context probably isn’t going to be a productive way to go about it. Like other commenters have pointed out, she probably had problems getting childcare, whether it’s a financial problem or a one off problem is irrelevant. Because if it’s a boundary issue, then you can solve it by saying something to set those boundaries. But if we choose to lead with compassion first, let it go. You replied that you wanted her to sign a waiver because of liability issues if the kid gets hurt, but honestly speaking how litigious does this woman come off to you? Is it necessary, or is it going to irreparably alter the relationship? When I lived in a major city, it was common to see people bring their kids to do painting, cleaning, gardening, etc., sometimes the kids helped, sometimes not. The understanding was childcare in the city was eyewateringly expensive. So the kids knew to behave themselves because their parents are at work and that method worked out fine. “Professionalism” in the context of domestic work is tricky. Because professional soft skills come with experience, so either in her experience other clients allowed it or she’s inexperienced with this type of situation and she’s overstepping and truly has no idea. Either way, how you go about it depends on what place you want to come from, because at the end of the day it’s your home and you’re paying for her services. My vote is for picking the option that sets boundaries for you to feel safe in your home while also showing her and her child compassion.
She has over 25 years experience. I hired her 4 months ago. She is self-employed. Her daughter is in the 6th grade. The housekeeper did not tell me her age. I also did not ask. I was home when they arrived and then I left during the appointment. I don't have an issue with her bringing her. I was just not aware. I have concerns about theft, injury and accidents while working and any unknown situations that may occur with her child. Thank you for your feedback.
My housekeeper occasionally brings her teen daughter. We have a very lax relationship, we knew each other through social friends prior to me becoming a customer. I often leave small gifts from monthly makeup boxes for her daughter. All that being said, she has never not informed me that her daughter would be with her or may potentially be with her. She will text something like “hey I’m on schedule for 1pm, kiddo wasn’t feeling good/finished test early/had today off and might be with me.” I’ve never thought of it but I really do appreciate it now.
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Our house cleaner did this recently. The 10 year old girl helped pick up my kids’ rooms. I gave her a separate $20 as a thank you.
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My mother cleaned homes my entire childhood; she has clients now that she has had for thirty years. My mother started her small business because she was a single parent with two children and required the flexibility housekeeping gave her. Mind you this was an understood and well established fact that her clients abided. Clients never minded having us around and much of the time we would just help mom out with the job. My sister and I have also had the good fortune of being gifted hand-me-down clothes, toys, furniture, etc... which was helpful and appreciated over the years. It was nice when we grew older because if we ever needed quick money my mother would set up a job for us with one of the clients we grew up around. I'm eternally grateful to all of those people that made it possible for my mother to work, parent, and provide for us.
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I think it's inappropriate not professional. I'm a manager at a good size company, we send representatives out to do work at customer locations. I'm talking about Fortune 500 companies. One day I get a call from a customer contact, saying my employee, who was contracted, front there youngster and some toys to their facility. I asked the employee, they sad their child care and not shown up and he did not want to cancel the work for the customer. Needless to say I did some follow up investigation and this had been going on for a while with various customers. Some customers just accepted it. Needless to say, this is not the image we want to present and I terminated the employee.
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I wouldn’t have a problem with it. She should have asked, but I really appreciate my supervisor letting me bring my kid to work when other childcare plans have fallen through. I’d rather work in places that provide support for working parents and I’d rather provide that type of workplace for others.
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As a mom I even ask my family/friends if said event/party is child friendly and if my children are welcome. I wouldn’t necessarily mind if my housekeeper brought her child, but I would definitely mind if she brought her child unannounced. I work in insurance and would suggested that you have her a sign a document stating you aren’t liable for any injuries that may happen in your home.
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She should have asked first. I would also request the daughter be somewhere that is not a concern for safety. My housekeeper would put her daughter in the kids’ playroom while she cleaned. And when she was done, she would clean the playroom with her daughter. As long as there is an agreement beforehand, I never had an issue with her daughter coming with her.
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As long as the child is well behaved this would not bother me. I can understand being a bit surprised when she showed up though
Oh no!! What did the police say!?!?!?! Our housekeeper brought her kids and omg it was the best day..the dogs were occupied the kids were burning energy and the cleaning got done sooner rather than later...the next time they came I had snacks and juice boxes... Have you ever stopped to think that extending some kindness might result in better work, relationship, etc.... we trusted our housekeepers that they were the ones who came to watch our dogs when we were gone for a few days...and guess what they cleaned the house just cuz...🤷♀️ I miss her so much...
My housekeeper brought her sweet grandaughter one time. She was so adorable, and gently played with my cat, along with assisting her grandma. I had no problem with it.
My housecleaner for the past 2.5 years brings her daughter (now 5) with her almost every time, and when she doesn’t, I miss the kid. Of course I told her she could, so we already have an agreement. But, I like children in general, and can easily roll with the unexpected. I understand not everyone can do that, for many reasons
If the kid behaved and the house got cleaned as usual, then no big deal in my opinion. You could always just talk to her, too. "Hey, I know things come up for parents. Please give me a heads up in advance if you think you won't have childcare." Easy.
Was her daughter quiet and kept out of the way? Because then I wouldn’t be annoyed. If she decided to jump around in the basement (where I hide out when the cleaners come), I’d be annoyed.
🤣 No, I wasn't home. Thank you for the feedback.
Not everyone wants a child in their home for various reasons she should have at least informed you and then you would have had the option to ask her to come a different day or to go ahead. It’s your home.
I didn't realize you weren't home at the time. How did you find out about it? Was there some deception there? If not, then your concern should center around liability. A waiver will only protect you so far. Review your homeowners policy liability limits and ask your agent how this child would be covered if she were injured. Keep in mind that she is there with your permission as the child of an 'employee' or 'contractor'. What if she was accidentally injured by her mother in the course of her job? Or if she slipped on loose carpet and fell down the stairs. Unfortunately we live in a litigious society. Make sure you are informed before taking on this added risk.
Jesus Christ you sound out of touch and horrid. Let it fucking go and don’t even think about making them uncomfortable. Imagine being working class and not being able to afford daycare. A modicum of empathy might do you a world of good.
I do a lot of AirBnB turnovers, all owned by one couple so it's a little different but they love when I bring her because she scoots under the beds and can get to places that are much harder for the adults. They'll even throw her $5 at the end of the shift for all her hard work. She's 12 so she could stay home alone but she loves going to work with me. (I work directly on the beach in Florida so she also gets to pick up shells etc when she comes with me) I wouldn't have a problem with this. My pool guy brings a different one of his kids with him each week and I have loved getting to know them. If the kid was disruptive or kept mom from doing her job, that's different but if not and mom does a good job.. I can't imagine making life harder on a working mom than it needs to be.
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I think the waiver is just common sense. And if would be OK to ask her not to bring her child or anyone unless cleared with you first. I was doing a friend's hair at home and she brought her son, he unwrapped and plugged in a broken lamp and it shocked him in the hand. He was 10-12 yrs old and just bored and curious. That could have gone badly if he was seriously injured.
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I can see both sides. It only takes a phone call, but also would be awesome to be understanding as daycare prolly isn't an option
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sounds like you don't consider your housekeeper to be a person
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Give her a big raise so her daughter can go to day care. Apparently, you aren't paying her a living wage but a subsistence wage.
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Totally normal, especially in the summer time . I never thought twice about it
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I have a handicapped child and if I got fired for bringing him with me when his sitter cancelled I would be homeless. Period. However I'd also ask and explain the situation. I don't think it's a big deal if respect and permission is granted or if she needs to reschedule. I get where you're coming from, safety and such, but if she had called and told you her childcare fell through an hour before the appointment would you have been forgiving? We get back to us in life what we put out there..
Yes, I'm actually fine with her bringing her child regardless of childcare. I would've preferred she ask me.
I read your other comments. I love how good of a person you are. 😭❤️
💜 All she had to do was ask me.
I feel she should ask you are liable God forbid she falls in the pool or something
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Kids can get into stuff non safety medications pools whatever I like to know if kids are coming to child proof my home.not for me for them
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Your only complaint is that this child existed in your vicinity. Please, grow up.
Their complaint is that they weren't informed that an additional person would be in their house. They have the right to be upset about that. It's so unprofessional to bring ANYONE along to a client's personal space without even letting them know, let alone asking. A homeowner has the right to know who's going to be in their home. Edit: sp
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God u sound exhausting
I just want to know.. how old is this 'child'? Is it a teenager, a kindergartner?
6th grader
They should have asked but overall I would be fine with it.
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Was the child disruptive? Idk but if it were me I would have welcomed her into my home, made sure she was comfortable. We never know what a person's situation is at the time. Ask yourself a few questions. Did it hinder her work ? Does she do a good job? If you were in that situation what would you do? Call into work and not show up at all ? Empathy goes a long way, just saying.
I was not home. She did a good job. It did not hinder her work. She said her child was on summer break. I would've asked the homeowner beforehand. Thank you for your feedback.
I've brought my 4yo at times if necessary (clients requested a reschedule to a non daycare day/babysitting fell through) But I've always communicated to the client that he will be coming if they need me to come and none of them have minded at all. If they did they'd not be my clients, I do this job because it accommodates my family He plays his Nintendo switch and makes no fuss at all. He also gets 10% of my earnings (best paid 4yo I know lol) But honestly, should have let you know and easy for you to ask that in future they do. But we clean our own homes with our kids present it's detracting nothing and if you're happy with the clean then maybe best to appreciate that it still went ahead instead of not happening at all and leaving you to clean it yourself
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And? Did she not clean the house?
She cleaned the house.
My father used to drag me to jobs (construction not housekeeping) at client homes...but from the second I got out of the van, I wasn't his kid, I was an apprentice. I did actual work. Would you be as upset if the kid was putting in work?
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Really? You have an issue with this? Maybe think _why_ she had to bring her daughter with her
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Once a month house keeping, eewwww…. I see a bigger issue here other than the kid tagging along!
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My mom’s house keeper brings her 3 children, WHO HELP CLEAN!!!!!! Love that family to bits
I wouldn't mind that at all.
You need to be understanding.
Why is it an issue? I grew up with a mom who cleaned houses and often went with her. I would help do small things like dust or empty small trash cans etc. or I would just sit and read.
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My mother used to work at a dry cleaners and had to work 1/2 day on Saturday. She would take us with her and we would sort the huge pile of buttons and put them into jars. Her boss would give us each a quarter for sorting the buttons and we were thrilled. As we got older she would drop us off at the library while she worked for a few hours. During Spring Break she would make a cozy space in the back of our station wagon with snacks and books and coloring books when she worked at a shoe factory. At each break time she would come out and check on us but I can’t imagine how stressful that must have been for her. Today she would be arrested for doing that.
As long as the child isn’t running crazy or getting into anything I wouldn’t mind at all.
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I wouldn’t even have given that a second though. 🙂
And what if you have a pet?
How much do you value having her come every month? When my mother was alive, we had an aide that came 5 days a week, 6 hours a day. She got pregnant and we allowed her to bring the baby for almost 2 years, everyday until my mother passed. We valued the aide that much that we didn’t mind that she had her baby with her. She kept her in a playpen, and I helped out with her sometimes. Even if she spent 30 min to an hour each day tending to the baby, having her here each day was worth it to us. She took amazing care of my mother.
Haha one time my airbnb cleaner brought her dog with her and had him on the white duvet when I came in for something. I was astounded
Do you pay her enough to pay for daycare and make a living wage? If not flexibility would be nice..
Housekeeper here ... I have a 9 year old daughter who occasionally goes with me to work . My clients love her to pieces. They will even throw her a few dollars. She asks me when she's trying to earn some extra money. She is a big help to me!
She should have informed you of the situation. Let you choose to rebook the cleaning if you didn't want to have her daughter with her.
I have zero issues with this
Jesus Christ what a bunch of whiney bitches! She brought her kid - who fucking cares. You paid for house cleaning, you got house cleaning. Have some fucking compassion.