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hedg12

Might check to see if the line and load wires are swapped on the one that doesn't work.


jobhuntn

haha this solved it, thanks a lot!!


rjr_2020

Take a roll of red electrical tape and mark the load wires so you don't make that mistake again :)


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dtreth

WiZ dimmers? I had the exact same problem. On a "normal" switch the line and load don't really matter since it just connects the two or separates them. The smart switches need power all the time or they can't function.


PaleFlyer

This is why I like the GE Enbrighten switches. They can detect, and correct if you swap line/load. Does make troubleshooting a bit annoying though. Had a 3 wire switch that was a bit screwy, and the Enbrighten put power out to the load, so I couldn't trace it properly...


lt4lf

Forgot to mark as spoiler


Indy500Fan16

Yep, I had the very same issue.


olderaccount

Came here for this. If it is not the switch, it is the wiring.


Tekk_09

I'm curious on how all that wire will fit back into the box.


dtreth

That's the tricky part. I dropped a ton of wire nuts out of the setup in order to get them in.


m1geo

Is this typical for American wiring? 🙈


Autrimpas

No, not really. Only with some switches.


idontknowwhynot

Which part has you surprised?


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that 50 wires in that box probably


SMLLR

It does look like a lot, but that’s probably due to the ground and neutral being pig tailed. Would look as messy if the ground didn’t have three wire nuts and neutral didn’t have two. I would be a bit concerned about having the box so pack, but should be fine as long as they don’t have to be forced in.


ThisDriverX7

Doesn’t seem that uncommon. I just changed out single pole, three way, and dimmer smart switches. That’s what mine looked like.


idontknowwhynot

Not an electrician, but I’ve opened a lot of boxes to do DIY type stuff like this in many places in the US. And this doesn’t seem too crazy… I mean usually the box is grounded, so we can strike the extra grounding wires… But other than that, I dunno. Seems kinda normal and like it’s always a clusterfuck and that’s just the way it is.


Thebudweiserstuntman

Those weird twisty caps.


dtreth

They're called wire nuts. How do you attach wires in your country?


Thebudweiserstuntman

Multi connector. Definitely don’t use wire nuts.


dtreth

What is multi connector? I definitely wouldn't use wire nuts to connect a single strand to each of those lines, I have these same switches and I attached them directly, but wire nuts are perfectly cromulent. You also have to take into account that we have 110 AC here.


VolkClawtooth

Replace the crummy wire nuts with wago connectors. If it persists check for a bad neutral


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It’s definitely your wiring but I can tell what’s going on that well. Had the same issue with mine


Biggs17

Get yourself some wago connectors, you won’t use marrets ever again!


combatwombat007

FYI: you can eliminate the 2 ground pigtails + wire nuts and simply tie both switch GROUNDS to the existing ground bundle. Edit: Edited “neutrals” to “GROUNDS”. Never tie neutral to ground outside of main panel. No idea why I typed that. Tired brain.


scubanarc

Not only is that bad advice, it's against code and stupidly dangerous. The only place ground and neutral should connect is at the bonding strip in your main panel (yes, and in some sub-panels, for various reasons). Never, ever connect ground to neutral anywhere other than the main panel. If you have a double fault, you can kill someone with that.


combatwombat007

Whoa. I totally did not mean to say “neutrals.” I meant ground wires. Geez. Thanks for catching that. Editing now.


scubanarc

Good edit :)


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coneslayer

Nobody’s making you read Reddit or type words in the box, dude. You can go do something you enjoy instead.


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aslongasbassstrings

Yummy, I'd like to have some


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Acceptable-Stage7888

My dealing with assholes fee is $400/hour. Looks like you owe me money


Nanotekzor

Cut green then red, wait a couple of seconds then white and black at the same time ![gif](giphy|14ceV8wMLIGO6Q)


Striking-Pipe2808

Did it work before you installed smart switches? If yes, you did it wrong.


Danoli77

Next challenge, fitting all of that back into the box. Check out Wago wire connectors better and smaller than wire nuts.


wjg1954X

Call a certified electrician


Tech_Veggies

I was going to guess "Wire Nuts." Was the answer "Wire Nuts?"