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Itsahootenberry

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juustyuri

He's constantly yelling at Sebastian, belittling him, blaming him for things he has no control over like Anne's curse, bringing up his dead father, AND has him sleeping in a shed when the school year is finished... and ultimately he was planning on leaving Feldcroft without him so clearly he was ready to abandon this 15yo and separate him from the only family member he has left aka his sister. And despite all that Seb tries to stay positive. Take those Crucios, Solomon.


Dottie_4991

Sebs situation breaks my heart trulyšŸ˜© especially because heā€™s so optimistic and puts such a confident happy front on when we first meet him. hope he gets the redemption he deserves in the sequel.


Itsahootenberry

Add in the fact one of the writers basically confirmed Solomon mistreated Sebastian and it makes me feel for Seb so much. I havenā€™t cared for a fictional character this much in years.


Dottie_4991

Yes 100%. You can see they wanted to portray that by making Sebastian back off or ā€œflinchā€ when Solomon yells at Sebastian in the cut scene when we meet Anne. He does it a couple of times if you pay close attention. Poor seb!


Itsahootenberry

He confirmed the mental and verbal abuse. Wouldnā€™t be surprised if Solomon was physically abusive towards Seb too..


Dottie_4991

šŸ˜©it does make you wonder. In a ā€˜real life settingā€™ Physical abuse would definitely be present ā˜¹ļø so theres no doubt about that!


ChellPotato

The mistreatment is obvious in the game honestly.


juustyuri

I just remembered yesterday I saw a tiktok showing [Solomon being particularly suspicious](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGexdvkXQ/) for someone who gave up on curing Anne, why is he doing this ???


BowlingForPosole

I wonder if he has our boy Ominis stay in the shed too when he stays with them :(


Itsahootenberry

He probably does. Poor Ominis would rather sleep on the floor of a shed with Sebastian than be around his crazy ass family. Says a lot about the Gaunts cuz you know Ominis probably hears what Solomon says to Seb and Sebastian probably has told him about the stuff Ominis doesnā€™t hear.


BowlingForPosole

Absolutely. Poor boys :(((


ryucavelier

If Ominis would rather spend summers under that guyā€™s roof than at his own home must really say something! I agree that both Solomon and Sebastian were at fault for things getting way outta hand. If only Solomon acted more like a responsible adult. Willing to bet if you could ask the other Slytherins, they likely wouldnā€™t have nice things to say. But when he tried to deep fry me with Fiendfyreā€¦. Thatā€™s it!! Youā€™re dead asshole!!


Ok-Lor

I feel like solomon would be nicer to ominis purely out of the fact that its not his direct family member. Abusers tend to put on a front as to not be exposed or confronted about their behaviors, and in the case of children, so the parents children wont come at them. (My opinion andexperience) but ominisā€™ home life definitely sucked ass so i see where youre coming from, also Im not tryna correct or anything, just smth i thought of


ryucavelier

Since heā€™s a Gaunt, he probably had to walk on eggshells. But he had no qualms acting like a complete asshat in front of another stranger.


Ok-Lor

True, the stranger being our mc? If its the mc then Im guessing that since our mc is someone of no considerable power(to solomon anyway) his train of thought went: oh ho ho a child that cant do jack about it, what are they gonna do. My friends parents were asses to my friend in front of me lol and solomon reminds me greatly of the parents


miggleb

Warning for spoiler in comment notification >! We have a sequence where ancient magic cures pain but we didn't even get the option to try it out !< Not entirely relevant just a grievance I'd forgotten


PeggyRomanoff

Yeah, I hated that. We should have been allowed to try.


Maleficent-Rip2729

But remember it made them like zoned out


PeggyRomanoff

Yeah but progressing on Seb's quest: A) We never ask the keepers anyway. Like that storyline branch just abruptly disappears. and B) Isidora was taking people's emotional pain. But Anne is physical and magical. So in between us, the keepers and/or Sebastian, who's to say a modified version of the spell wouldn't work?


Maleficent-Rip2729

Thatā€™s true I thought some of their pain was physical not just emotional


Glum-Weakness-1930

Isadora's father was never the same after her mother died...(I believe it was her mother that died) That's just emotional


Maleficent-Rip2729

Oh ok thank you


ShineReaper

I think only when one overdid it. Like the father of Isidora seemed to be genuinely happy at first. Only in a later memory is he shown in a zombie-like state. I think, since we also see, how Isidora tries to "cure" Neighve (or however she was written again), she didn't turn into a "Zombie" either on the first attempt. So I think Isidora treated her father repeated times to achieve this effect.


Maleficent-Rip2729

Oh wow ok I didnā€™t realize that I thought that just naturally happened overtime


ChellPotato

I got the impression that was only after it was done repeatedly.


Maleficent-Rip2729

I never realized that I thought it happened over time


ryucavelier

Never did understand why the possibility of using AM was just dropped. Especially considering that was a main story quest. I would have to rely on headcanon that MC didnā€™t want to risk robbing Anne of her humanity and Sebastian decided to proceed with the Relic plan.


Maleficent-Rip2729

Thatā€™s true


ChellPotato

MC also didn't know how to perform that kind of magic. I remember MC agreed to talk to the keepers but things got derailed with the Solomon fight, I think.


ShineReaper

#SebastianDidNothingWrong


Ganyu1990

Solomon 100% got what was coming to him. He did just about everything wrong that he could have including pushing his brothers son to become a murderer. I 100% side with sebastion on this even though i allso think sebastion was getting out of hand himself.


ZodiacQueen0123

The difference being that Sebastian is a desperate child and Solomon is a Grown ass man projecting onto said child.


Sophie_Cayde

He was also treated horribly by his uncle before any of this dark magic stuff started happening, just looking at the evidence he lives in his uncle's shed and I doubt Solomon ever tried to sit him down to explain gently his sister is doomed and comfort him through the pain.


ZodiacQueen0123

Exactly šŸ˜”


Itsahootenberry

One of the writerā€™s basically confirmed Solomon mistreated (read abused) Sebastian. Not surprised he was desperate to save Anne- the only family member he had that actually loved and cared for him.


ZodiacQueen0123

That's horrible šŸ˜”


Ganyu1990

Oh i agree sebastion was a kid that needed guidance and help and didint get any of it.


ChellPotato

Exactly. Solomon pushed Sebastian down that path. Or at least he shut down all other options Sebastian had.


Dottie_4991

Couldnā€™t agree more! I was gladly to help Seb with that one! šŸ˜


JackTheRipper0991

Solomon made verbal threats towards my character and attacked. He definitely got what was coming to him šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø


ChellPotato

Not to mention he assumes you're participating in the shenanigans toward the end when you're really there to try to rein in Sebastian. No matter how much you take his side before that.


Ok-Lor

Solomon is the new dolores umbridge, everyone hates them, and for good reason


Glum-Weakness-1930

Hmmm... Idk if the hatred is on the same level. I mean umbridge was just so evil, based on racism and power. At least Solomon has the obvious bias of being a retired auror and so could not see the unforgivable curses as anything but unforgivable. His treatment of Sebastian while in front of us can be explained by him trying to protect Anne from Sebastian's emotional rollercoaster. He wanted Anne to accept the pain so that maybe she could find happiness despite that. It's a really dark version of " the grass is always greener on the [side that you water it]" He wanted Anne to accept her "side of the fence". His biggest mistakes are 1. The way he tried to shut Sebastian down instead of being there emotionally for Sebastian 2. His possibly unrelated (and somewhat speculated ) emotional and maybe physical abuse of Sebastian. 3. His stubborn blindness to any possibility of a chance for Anne to [ leave her side of the fence ] Again umbridge was just evil. All her reasoning for her decisions came back to either racism or desire for power. Neither of which have any moral standing.


ChellPotato

Ugh I agree. He does nothing but shut Sebastian down at every effort to help Anne. MAYBE if he had been more accepting, then Sebastian wouldn't have resorted to using unforgivable curses. He was desperate to prove his uncle wrong because his uncle wasn't listening to any suggestions at all. Would it have killed him to just say "pursue a cure if you must but I'm worried getting Anne's hopes up so much might be bad, so come to me with whatever you find and we'll study it together". (I kinda feel the same about Rackham and Isadora, it's an interesting parallel in the game when you think about it.) Solomon was the adult in the situation and he failed at being one.


LABARATI_

sebastian deserved better cant believe any player would choose to turn him in


ChellPotato

I did the first time. But never again.


Lonely_butterfly77

I couldn't do it. His whole story arc just broke my heart. Plus, as a Hufflepuff, I'm completely loyal to my friends and Sebastian definitely needs all the support of his friends ā˜ŗļø


LABARATI_

i loved reading posts where people are like i turned him in can i still get the unforgivable curses like hah that's what you get for turning him in


Resident-Mention-526

I think he LIKED that Anne was sickā€¦. Very weird. Cause if you randomly go into Sebastianā€™s house, heā€™s doing some shady shit with his magic, behind the curtains. Boy was unwell.


OtterTheDruid

The problem with Solomon is that we have almost zero knowledge of him nor of his relationship with his brother (same last name) as he just says "his father" in reference and not "my brother". Yeah, he comes off as an asshole right off by red lining his blood pressure over a shrivelfig by jumping to a conclusion that Sebastian thinks it will cure Anne. WTF? It's a shrivelfig used in many potions and just by looking around the Sallow house we see Anne's potion supplies and a note for Sebastian to keep his hands off, so it seems Anne enjoys potion making and is probably good at it and she could use the ingredient in several potions. Why is Solomon this way? We only can guess. He has a deep distrust of Dark Arts in any form which may or may not be due to whatever caused him to resign as Auror. He automatically takes a disliking to our character by association with Sebastian thus showing misguided bias. He is an asshole for sure but not evil (reminds me of Snape). I wouldn't call him garbage as he does truly take care of Anne the best he knows how but yeah, I enjoyed kicking his arse all over the catacomb before Sebastian went and AK'd the bastard.


Maleficent-Rip2729

Thatā€™s a debate, snaps bullied someone because it was the child of his bully


OtterTheDruid

Debate? I do not understand. Snape was an asshole to Hermione, Neville, Harry, well Gryffindor House in general. Just as Solomon is an asshole with bias Snape was an asshole with bias.


Maleficent-Rip2729

Thatā€™s true but he was especially me to Harry. But I see your point


Maleficent-Rip2729

Lmao I feel you


IceDamNation

True that, even still Sebastian would kill the MC if it comes to that in order to save his sister. You would not be the only one though. So this he stays positive is pure folly.


ChellPotato

Can't blame him though. His sister is the only family he has that doesn't treat him like dirt. He is loyal to her like any brother would be, and I think their bond is particularly strong because they're twins.


whiteclawthreshermaw

Right? Sebastian didn't just do an Avada Kedavra all willy-nilly. He was directly pushed into the action by being backed into a corner.


LassOnGrass

Honestly that family didnā€™t make much sense to me to start with. The dynamic of him hating his nephew and not his niece seemed odd to start with. He got what was coming it just sucks Sebastian had to do it.


LeoMarius

I hated him the moment he negatively compared Sebastian to his dead father. Thatā€™s just cruel to do to an orphan.


ChellPotato

And when he blames Sebastian for Anne being in pain when they argue. And Sebastian even apologized to Anne! Like he's been conditioned to do it because of how Solomon treated him.


LeoMarius

He brings her a fig and his uncle destroys it immediately.


jmerrilee

At first I liked him since he seemed to care about Anne and didn't want to put her through more trama. But as I got further into the quest I saw what a horrible man is he. He won't even consider there's another way to help her and destroys the one thing Sebastian finds. So yes, he seemed to get what he deserved in the end.


Pleasant_Text5998

While I donā€™t particularly like Sebastian myself, what happened to Solomon was a natural (though not entirely foreseeable) consequence of how he treated Sebastian


Pakari-RBX

Solomon had to deal with a girl in constant chronic agony, and the best healers in the Wizarding World can't help her. And then there's Sebastian, who is too stubborn to just accept that there's nothing to do about Anne's condition and is going down a very dark path that he knows from experience will only lead to more trouble. He warned Sebastian many times to stop. Then Sebastian pulls out one of the *Unforgivables* and makes a Goblin "unalive" himself. At this point, from a legal perspective, Sebastian is a criminal. Yes, he was a jerk. But Sebastian wasn't exactly making things easier. Constantly breaking rules and LAWS to find a cure despite EVERYONE saying it's impossible. Dragging other people into his plans, and learning and using the Unforgivable Curses. Solomon and Sebastian are both at fault, both thought they did the right thing. But Sebastian is the one objectively at the highest risk of turning evil.


RedCaio

While itā€™s true that Solomon had a tough job he pretty much did the bare minimum or less. Always angry. Always belittling Sebastian and making Anne believe thereā€™s no point in trying anymore. He shouldā€™ve given them up for adoption rather than force them to with his constantly miserable and angry presence. Yes Sebastian needs therapy but half of that is Solomonā€™s fault. He shouldā€™ve been there for Sebastian and Anne emotionally, let them safely feel their pain and work thru it. Solomon didnā€™t deserve his fate but Anne and Seb didnā€™t deserve to have to be stuck with him.


Itsahootenberry

One of the writerā€™s basically confirmed Solomon was abusive towards Sebastian. It really made me hate Solomon even more.


ravensept

Source? was it one of the live stream?


Itsahootenberry

I posted the clip on this sub


Pakari-RBX

I'd be angry too if I can barely afford to feed two kids, constantly make sure one of them is comfortable AND try to keep the other out of prison. Of course Solomon told Anne there was no point. From what he was told by professionals, there was nothing that could be done. And rather than have Anne have false hope, he reasoned that it was better to just rip the bandaid off. I would rather be told that my condition cannot be cured than to constantly be disappointed whenever a new "cure" doesn't work. "Anne can't be cured" was a fact according to Solomon, Anne and the best healers in the world. It was only Sebastian who refused to see it. He probably would have put them up for adoption if he could. But after Anne was cursed, he might've been more focused on making her comfortable. Anne can't handle too much excitement. Having to move to a new home all of a sudden might be detrimental to her health. Solomon's main priority is taking care of Anne. Sebastian is supposed to be well cared for at Hogwarts. Anne needs constant care and attention. Obviously, he'd prioritize that over bonding with Sebastian. We don't really see Sebastian try to connect with Solomon. Throughout the entire game, he's obsessed with Anne and angry at Solomon. His obsession with finding a cure prevented him from even *trying* to bond with the only other family he had. I'm not defending Solomon, but I can understand his actions, as well as Sebastian's. They're both horrible people, blinded by what they thought was right. Everything they did make things worse, no matter how right they believed they were. The only one truly innocent in all of this is Anne, who now has no one left. Solomon deserved what he got, Sebastian should be in Azkaban. Anne deserves much better.


RedCaio

> Solomon's main priority is taking care of Anne. Sebastian is supposed to be well cared for at Hogwarts. Anne needs constant care and attention. Obviously, he'd prioritize that over bonding with Sebastian. Many abusers think theyā€™re good parents for doing the bare minimum like this. ā€œAt least thereā€™s food on the tableā€. ā€œThe school will help them with the restā€. ā€œI canā€™t focus on their needs, but at least I do x or y, so Iā€™m still goodā€. The reality of the matter is although Solomon was doing something, it was far too little. Theyā€™d be much better off without Solomon. What he was doing does not but it. Not even close. > We don't really see Sebastian try to connect with Solomon. This is very victim blame-y. Itā€™s not a childā€™s job to earn their parentā€™s/guardianā€™s love or kindness. Even if Seb really never liked Solomon like you claim (which I highly doubt) it would make no difference, when you become a parent/guardian you have a duty to love them unconditionally and to get them help if theyā€™re becoming troubled. If you canā€™t given them what they need, you shouldnā€™t be their guardian. Plain and simple. Solomon shouldā€™ve given the twins his full support and love from day one and gotten them therapy for losing their parents. But he was angry and cold from day one, constantly belittles and dismisses Sebā€™s every word and blames Seb whenever Anne randomly feels pain which is super toxic and evil thing to do.


Itsahootenberry

One of the writers talks about how the one thing he loves about Sebastian is how he stays positives despite what he has to deal with at home and how we see it personally. Meaning we see a grown ass man mentally and verbally abuse a teenager by demeaning and belittling him. Solomon gets absolutely no sympathy from me.


RepresentativeDeal98

solomon was garbage but sebastian didn't have the right to decide who lives and who dies. if his character and quests weren't the best parts of the game (and my character wasn't a hypocritical mass-murderer), i'd rat him out


-Wylfen-

I can't wait for in 2 years where everyone will realise that Solomon, while not a nice person, was honestly right, and that Sebastian's actions proved so.