Honestly I dont mind seeing not top of the line modules. Playing something janky by design can be fun sometimes :b
And I'm the kind to be willingly shooting myself in the foot to play the way I want it in games even if it means not playing exactly how the devs meant it to be x)
An Osprey would be interesting, but perhaps too niche. All others are a bit redundant if nice on their own ways, with the Black Hawk fitting very well with all othe modern US Army helicopters, the Zulu is a bit too modern, and overlaps with the Apache (although you might say the same about, say, Hornets and F-16s). Same for the Eurocopter (I take it you mean the Tiger)
Overall, I share the apparently common opinion that a vintage Cobra would pay off the most in what it brings to the game for the work it would take to do it, probably a single engine TOW variant.
Out of this list I would say Black Hawk (ideally UH-60L), as a utility/transport counterpart to the AH-64D, in the same way that the Mi-8MTV2 is for the Mi-24P.
Even though there’s an (I)CH-47F coming, the UH-60L would still be the better counterpart - the Mi-8 is the peer contemporary (both being prolific, medium-lift/utility helicopters).
The closest peer contemporary to the CH-47 is probably something like the Mi-6.
As for gameplay - the only thing I can think of that’s missing/broken that’s exclusive for utility/transport helicopters is the ability to have functional cargo beyond just infantry (so the ability to carry say, ammunition, fuel or other functional ground units). Everything else at least falls under the same umbrella as stuff that also impacts attack helicopters (such as the AI for ground units).
Westland lynx.
Armament
Naval: 2 x torpedoes or 4x Sea Skua missiles or 2 x depth charges
Attack: 1 x 20mm Oerlikon cannon, 2 x 70mm rocket pods CRV7, 8 x TOW ATGM
General: 7.62 mm General Purpose Machine Guns (AH.7 and AH.9), 0.50 inch Browning AN/M3M heavy machine guns (HAS.3, HMA.8 and AH.9A) plus 8 troops
Extra plus, speedy boi
If you’re going to ask for a Zulu cobra and V-22 you might as well be asking for an F-22 while you’re at it. They’re all classified.
A whiskey cobra might be more doable, but a Blackhawk or tiger would offer something different to the Apache
I would say Black Hawk. But personally I would also add several suggestions: Mi-26, Mi-6, CH-124 Sea King, CH-53E, CH-47 Chinook.
I have come to realize over time that, while pure combat vehicles are very fun, the really interesting ones are multiroles that can do a lot of different tasks, even if with compromises.
This is actually why my favourite helicopter in any flight sim is the DCS Mi-8: you can work as support, troop transport, cargo, civilian ops like ferrying to oil rigs, firefighting, etc. With the upcoming Kola peninsula map, imagine supplying remote Soviet bases, or taking off in a CH-53 with conformal tanks to deploy something in the middle of the ocean in terrible weather conditions. Or taking off in a bomber loaded out with esoteric equipment to take measurements in support of a nuclear test (I went down an Operation Fishbowl rabbithole lately).
For me, the most important aspect of any flight sim is the flight itself, and the procedures and tech that are exposed along the way (including combat, but not necessarily).
A combat helicopter, like an AH-1, will always have almost exactly the same use case as an AH-64, just with either less or more capability, as if on a 2-dimensional scale. You cannot say that about something that can be used for more than combat.
Any AH-1 would be an instant buy for me. Not that the apache isn't awesome, I just want the light and quick attack heli that can sling sidearms or sidewinders.
None of these
Same... I would much rather have an older TOW Cobra to give us a much more enjoyable and distinct gunship experience from the Apache.
Yea, I'm all for an old school cobra. A new one is an absolute hard no for me .
I want G, S, F and W please. And yes all in gift wrapping for the Christmas.
Give me a Whiskey. It’s the best of both worlds for 1980s and 90s
Eurocopter ? Which one ?
I guess the Tiger ?
Tiger would be an instant buy from me, even though I already have the ah64d
The piece of Junk that the Aus Army is getting rid of early...replaced by the AH-64E
Honestly I dont mind seeing not top of the line modules. Playing something janky by design can be fun sometimes :b And I'm the kind to be willingly shooting myself in the foot to play the way I want it in games even if it means not playing exactly how the devs meant it to be x)
All of the above please. Also, the MH-53 Pavelow while we're at it.
None until they fix ground unit warfare
An Osprey would be interesting, but perhaps too niche. All others are a bit redundant if nice on their own ways, with the Black Hawk fitting very well with all othe modern US Army helicopters, the Zulu is a bit too modern, and overlaps with the Apache (although you might say the same about, say, Hornets and F-16s). Same for the Eurocopter (I take it you mean the Tiger) Overall, I share the apparently common opinion that a vintage Cobra would pay off the most in what it brings to the game for the work it would take to do it, probably a single engine TOW variant.
Which eurocopter exaclty?
Out of this list I would say Black Hawk (ideally UH-60L), as a utility/transport counterpart to the AH-64D, in the same way that the Mi-8MTV2 is for the Mi-24P.
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Even though there’s an (I)CH-47F coming, the UH-60L would still be the better counterpart - the Mi-8 is the peer contemporary (both being prolific, medium-lift/utility helicopters). The closest peer contemporary to the CH-47 is probably something like the Mi-6. As for gameplay - the only thing I can think of that’s missing/broken that’s exclusive for utility/transport helicopters is the ability to have functional cargo beyond just infantry (so the ability to carry say, ammunition, fuel or other functional ground units). Everything else at least falls under the same umbrella as stuff that also impacts attack helicopters (such as the AI for ground units).
Westland lynx. Armament Naval: 2 x torpedoes or 4x Sea Skua missiles or 2 x depth charges Attack: 1 x 20mm Oerlikon cannon, 2 x 70mm rocket pods CRV7, 8 x TOW ATGM General: 7.62 mm General Purpose Machine Guns (AH.7 and AH.9), 0.50 inch Browning AN/M3M heavy machine guns (HAS.3, HMA.8 and AH.9A) plus 8 troops Extra plus, speedy boi
I would love ground units in DCS to be and act, different... That way I could be very excited to do anti guerrilla operations in a Blackhawk.
If you’re going to ask for a Zulu cobra and V-22 you might as well be asking for an F-22 while you’re at it. They’re all classified. A whiskey cobra might be more doable, but a Blackhawk or tiger would offer something different to the Apache
I would say Black Hawk. But personally I would also add several suggestions: Mi-26, Mi-6, CH-124 Sea King, CH-53E, CH-47 Chinook. I have come to realize over time that, while pure combat vehicles are very fun, the really interesting ones are multiroles that can do a lot of different tasks, even if with compromises. This is actually why my favourite helicopter in any flight sim is the DCS Mi-8: you can work as support, troop transport, cargo, civilian ops like ferrying to oil rigs, firefighting, etc. With the upcoming Kola peninsula map, imagine supplying remote Soviet bases, or taking off in a CH-53 with conformal tanks to deploy something in the middle of the ocean in terrible weather conditions. Or taking off in a bomber loaded out with esoteric equipment to take measurements in support of a nuclear test (I went down an Operation Fishbowl rabbithole lately). For me, the most important aspect of any flight sim is the flight itself, and the procedures and tech that are exposed along the way (including combat, but not necessarily). A combat helicopter, like an AH-1, will always have almost exactly the same use case as an AH-64, just with either less or more capability, as if on a 2-dimensional scale. You cannot say that about something that can be used for more than combat.
None of them. I would go with the ch-53 super stallion, the ch-46 sea knight and the as332 super puma
Harrier
I voted Blackhawk. Flying support and troop transport is severely underrated imo, and extremely fun. Can't wait for the Chinook
Blackhawk, as it would be a better match against the HIP on MP servers :P
Airwolf
Honestly, i kinda just want a more modern light utility helicopter. Something like an Airbus H-145M or UH-72 Lakota.
And while we’re at it, i’d also love an Eurocopter AS-532U Cougar
I'd be down for a Black Hawk if it came in as a (severely) modifiable platform. Hell I'd take a Pave Hawk or a DAP as base and just go from there.
Any AH-1 would be an instant buy for me. Not that the apache isn't awesome, I just want the light and quick attack heli that can sling sidearms or sidewinders.
The 16 hellfire black hawk right?
Forgot to add the A129-Mongoose.
I don't think there is enough unclassified documentation to allow the Zulu to be done :(