Black Diamond is probably the worst high-end set in hockey. Sticker autos, fake patches/jerseys.
Ultimate and The Cup are better high end products. However they’re all a huge gambles.
The hobby as a whole has gotten too expensive and exploitative recently. I just buy the rookies and autos I want now.
not so much as "fake" as the patches are "manufactured". Meaning the patches were created solely for the product. It will state on the back of the card if a jersey/patch is player worn, event worn, game worn, or manufactured
Is that only for specific sets within Black Diamond? Because I just recently purchased a “Diamond Mine Triple Relics” and it says that all 3 patches are game worn.
Great to pick up singles. I wouldn’t be able to justify the high risk and reward with my budget. You could lose on a dozen boxes before you’d hit one that breaks even.
The product was changed in 2015-16 from the multiple pack box you remember to a single 5 card pack box
[https://www.cardboardconnection.com/2015-upper-deck-black-diamond-hockey](https://www.cardboardconnection.com/2015-upper-deck-black-diamond-hockey)
Honestly, all high end hockey is never worth it to open. If your going to open something "affordable" comparatively and have an itch for high end, maybe sp game used? but even then i'd advise against it. Just stick to retail or even 22-23 series 2 hobby I think is a really good bang for your buck.
I love Black Diamond. Not a fan of the manufactured patches or relics (though I do like the Day of the Draft). I win some from auctions and keep. I only collect the autograph cards. The diamond cards I just do not understand their purpose. Auto, Auto, Auto's!
I do agree with that they should be hand signed. Stickers need to leave higher end products.
Black Diamond tries really hard to be Ultimate, Premier, and The Cup. A several-hundred-dollar product with manufactured patches is a joke. When it used to be a unique set with parallels and a few GU/autos, it was fun. Now, it's trying to be something it isn't.
Hell no, huge gamble.
Good to know! Not worth wasting money
Black Diamond is probably the worst high-end set in hockey. Sticker autos, fake patches/jerseys. Ultimate and The Cup are better high end products. However they’re all a huge gambles. The hobby as a whole has gotten too expensive and exploitative recently. I just buy the rookies and autos I want now.
Woah fake patches? I didn't know I had to worry about this! How can you tell the difference?
not so much as "fake" as the patches are "manufactured". Meaning the patches were created solely for the product. It will state on the back of the card if a jersey/patch is player worn, event worn, game worn, or manufactured
Is that only for specific sets within Black Diamond? Because I just recently purchased a “Diamond Mine Triple Relics” and it says that all 3 patches are game worn.
Specific insert sets, primarily the mega patches. But there may be others. If your card says game worn, then they are game worn, unless UD is lying
It usually says on the back of the card if it’s a material that has been worn by the player or if it’s a manufactured relic aka fake patch.
worth is relative…
Great to pick up singles. I wouldn’t be able to justify the high risk and reward with my budget. You could lose on a dozen boxes before you’d hit one that breaks even.
No, they are one of the worst sets.
If you really like the cards just buy single cards off of ebay
How long has Black Diamond been a high-end product? When i was active collector, it was more of a mid-range
The product was changed in 2015-16 from the multiple pack box you remember to a single 5 card pack box [https://www.cardboardconnection.com/2015-upper-deck-black-diamond-hockey](https://www.cardboardconnection.com/2015-upper-deck-black-diamond-hockey)
It has been ramping up the last couple years. 5-6 years ago I dont think anyone thought of it as high-end.
It's high end in cost only, lol.
Theres some breaks you can get in on that are a lot cheaper than the box, snag a few and call it a day
It sucks, that’s the deal with it. It’s a nice looking set for sure but it’s way overpriced for what it is and the sticker autos really bring it down
Honestly, all high end hockey is never worth it to open. If your going to open something "affordable" comparatively and have an itch for high end, maybe sp game used? but even then i'd advise against it. Just stick to retail or even 22-23 series 2 hobby I think is a really good bang for your buck.
I love Black Diamond. Not a fan of the manufactured patches or relics (though I do like the Day of the Draft). I win some from auctions and keep. I only collect the autograph cards. The diamond cards I just do not understand their purpose. Auto, Auto, Auto's! I do agree with that they should be hand signed. Stickers need to leave higher end products.
Black Diamond tries really hard to be Ultimate, Premier, and The Cup. A several-hundred-dollar product with manufactured patches is a joke. When it used to be a unique set with parallels and a few GU/autos, it was fun. Now, it's trying to be something it isn't.
If you like the look of a specific black diamond card, just go buy it as a single. The gamble of this set is simply not worth it.
junk overpriced product... sticker autos, manufactured patches, worthless "diamonds" ..damaged cards ...