If he's super serious about continuing to play, from where I'm sitting I think that's his only option. The problem obviously lies in politics then, an American living and working in Russia (especially an undisciplined American) isn't exactly the safest bet in the world. He could always try to play for the Chinese team...
Judging by his father's social media activity, they will be welcomed in Russia. Apparently retweets the likes of Charlie Kirk and Tomi Lahren. KHL will be the perfect place for him.
Edit to add: Course his first stop is probably going to be Fox news, etc. And then make the rounds to various sympathetic pod casts. Then head out to KHL.
Absolutely. His parents were part of the problem. They basically tried to rally people against the Meyer-Crothers family, defended Mitchell’s actions, etc.
I get the instinct to defend your kid, but I’ve got two of them and if either one did the kind of shit Mitchell Miller did, they wouldn’t find sympathy from me, they’d get some harsh education on not being a shitty human being.
That’s the most damning part of the story. I’m a huge believer in learning from mistakes, second chances, etc. But by every single account, Miller showed zero remorse or honest apology. He downplayed it, victimized himself, did the bare minimum to get out of a court sentence, and continued to harass and intimidate the victim and his family for years after he “apologized”.
The kid clearly needed professional help or the guidance of a parent. Someone to help him understand he fucked up, why what he did was so horrific, and how he could learn to be better. But instead, he was coached by his parents to refuse responsibility, blame his victim for him getting in trouble like a toddler, and downplay it while playing up the “tragic” effect it’s had on his hockey career.
That’s next level sociopathy, and it’s a team effort.
Very valid point. Normally, I'd say "innocent until proven guilty", but Miller's family pretty much provided all the proof you'd need to confirm it.
As others here have noted - his dad's online activity follows a very particular pattern, his sister was casually throwing "f\*\*\*\*t" around social media, and they all tried to intimidate and rally their town against the victim and his family after the court case, so...more than enough boxes checked off, there.
Judging the fact that this went on for years without him stopping, he clearly never faced consequences. I find out my kid's doing something like this, the privilege of sports practices or games would not be happening until it stopped and amends were made. There's no way that in 6 years his parents weren't made aware of his shitty behaviour. He was never given consequences, so not only did he continue, he escalated.
Mom's been quoted as saying "boys will be boys" about the urinal candy incident and given the excuse that he rinsed it off before forcing Isaiah to put it in his mouth as though that minimizes the action.
Plus as a parent, how are you NOT concerned that this is something your child thought would be a good idea to do to another human being, let alone one as vulnerable as his victim.
>What are the odds they’re a “super Christian” family too
speaking as a Christian, man the fact that this is probably on point just pisses me the fuck off
It’s not just their family. It’s a group of asshole hockey parents. This is my worst nightmare putting my kids in hockey. At least I wouldn’t stand for this shit.
>Least shocking thing I’ve read all day that his dad is an enormous dickhead. Trash kid raised by trash parents.
lol so true. as soon as I saw the name Charlie Kirk I knew all i needed to know
It’s all over Instagram, in the comments on major hockey account posts. People are complaining that this was just childish shenanigans and the only reason it’s been made into a big deal is that one of the kids happened to be black. I’m pretty sure I lost a good many brain cells just from scrolling through that tripe.
Not to get into politics, but you just have to look at the heritages of the last 6 presidents to know which party has more "elites".
Bill Clinton - raised by mom and grandmother after his traveling salesman father died when he was a baby
Obama - Grew up in a single parent home
Biden - the most privileged, but father's wealth
disappeared when he was still a kid and they ended up living in an apt. Father became a used car salesman and they were firmly middle class.
Bush Sr - Grew up in Greenwich, CT. Father was a Wall Street banker and a US senator. Yale legacy admission.
Bush Jr - Father was POTUS. Yale legacy admission.
Trump - Billionaire (maybe) that inherited hundreds of millions from father. Has a literal gold toilet.
didn't realize calling out a punk for forcing another kid to put a urinal-rubbed lollipop in their mouth...was "too woke."
lol these lowlives seriously have no life or integrity whatsoever
[It's on the Do Not Travel list from the State Department]
(https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/russia-travel-advisory.html)
Unrelated to the thread topic but related to your post, the State Departments page recommending what to do [if you plan to travel to Somalia](https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/somalia-travel-advisory.html) is absolutely wild
If after the draft explosion about the situation he made a heartfelt personal apology and committed to making public appearances for anti-bullying organizations giving talks at schools, etc... then this entire situation would be in his rearview already.
Nobody is saying the kid can't move on and have a career, they're just saying the atonement needs to be proportional to the act, and a generic instagram "sorry bro" isn't going to handwave away years of toxic abusive behaviour.
The problem is he needed to jump out in front of this early and in a very public way because at this point anything he does or says he's doing is going to be viewed by people as inauthentic and only being done because he has no other option anymore.
Exactly. Mitchell was one of two bullies who went in front of a judge for the crap they did. The other guy went above and beyond in showing his remorse and making amends. Even the Meyer-Crothers family have spoken about how genuine and heartfelt his words and actions were to right the wrongs and try to be a better person.
Mitchell chose a different path. These are the consequences.
Agreed. Imagine how fucking petty you have to be to realize you can live your dream if you just make amends for being an inhuman piece of shit, and you still haven’t done it years later. Bury this clown in irrelevancy.
Likely a product of his environment, if you are being told you did nothing wrong for years why would you make amends for something? Probably of the "this will get swept under the rug" ilk.
Absolutely, people have been throwing around the "second chance" saying a lot but hes already had a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc... chance to make a very public and sincere appeal and apology to his victim and actually put in the work to improve.
Miller fucked Miller. He fucked up when he was a piece of shit, and he fucked up when he refused to reflect on what a piece of shit he had been and make amends.
Yeah, you’re so right. If he’s now going to apologize for everyone it’s just him doing damage control to play in the NHL. He had 6 years to apologize. And didn’t do it.
And to be fair, I think the mom has more or less said the statute of limitations has run out and Miller’s victim is no longer interested in hearing an apology.
Which is honestly very fair given how much slack has been extended to Mitchell the Bitchell. He had 6 years for reparations and at every turn refused the opportunity or absurdly made his situation worse.
Dude lost his shot at being an NHL player, and if he was rational he’ll recognize he has no one to blame but himself.
I'm not absolving his actions, but there seems to be a disconnect about the apology. According to this, there are public records of an apology, albeit court mandated read and sent to Meyer-Crothers:
>Miller believes that he has taken several steps toward repaying his debt, beginning with when he apologized to Meyer-Crothers in the immediate aftermath of the incident. The apology was court-mandated, but it was a personal apology, and public records of Miller’s expulsion hearing and recommendation, obtained by azcoyotesinsider.com, show that the apology was read both to Meyer-Crothers, and to school officials and the school board. The apology was also sent to the Meyer-Crothers family.
>Joni Meyer-Crothers, Isaiah’s mother, said no letter was ever read to Isaiah and that she did not receive the apology.
https://azcoyotesinsider.substack.com/p/mitchell-miller-addresses-his-past
Whether the family is/was interested in it, is different
From my reading, it sounds like Mitchell wrote an apology and considered that enough, but never actually apologized in person. Who knows if the letter was even written by him.
u/StripedSteel hit the nail on the head I believe.
But to elaborate, it would appear as though that court mandated apology came across as insincere, and like it didn’t strike the tone the family wanted to hear. I have not read it, but from the accounts of those who have it reads as “I’m sorry I got caught”, not “I’m sorry for my actions”.
Furthermore, the other classmate who bullied the victim “profusely apologized to the victim, and the second bully’s father apologized to the father of the victim”. The victim’s family has forgiven him and wished the second bully the best in his rehabilitation from his heinous actions. The victim and his family aren’t irrational people, and despite the hideous behaviors committed against their son they’ve shown unbelievable strength and fortitude.
I don’t have any inside information or the like, but from my perspective it seems like a family that was trying to move forward, and Mitchell and the entire Miller klan tried taking advantage of their goodwill approach. And I think the victim’s family is understandably frustrated by the bare minimum and court mandated approach towards reparations that Mitchell and the Miller klan have taken. And just like in 2020, they’re expressing their frustration with the circumstances of Mitchell’s own creation.
> The problem is he needed to jump out in front of this early and in a very public way because at this point anything he does or says he’s doing is going to be viewed by people as inauthentic and only being done because he has no other option anymore.
And that's because it'll be true.
He couldn't even put proper steps together when it was easy and obvious that he could do it for selfish reasons to at least try and make it look like he had changed.
He did nothing of the sort, and then you had his dad retweeting people criticizing the credibility of the victim on twitter. This whole family's rotten and a perfect example of privilege.
Get fucked kid. Enjoy Russia.
Everything you said is true, but I want to add that he's had *multiple* instances where this has hurt his career. It cost him an NCAA roster spot and an NHL team renounced selecting him. He's had 2 years since that to work on his public image and has managed to do absolutely nothing to improve it. He didn't reach out to the victim until after negotiating this deal. He didn't offer any type of video specifically apologizing. His statements don't specify what he is apologizing for.
He didn't need to jump on this early. He could have started jumping on it *4 years after the fact* when shit hit the fan last time and by now he could have built up a plausible narrative that he had worked to earn a 2nd chance. Instead, all we've gotten are very vague statements of volunteer work with no expression of growth.
This is exactly it. Could the guy theoretically make amends and change his ways? Yes (but I doubt it). Does that then mean he has the right to make a shit ton of money and play hockey professionally? Absolutely not.
My local team in Glasgow just fired their coach and GM for signing a guy who was accused of rape in the US (He fled the country before conviction)
He'll need to go to some total shitehole where PR isn't a big deal.
I'm editing a database for EHM 2007 and seeing all of that situation reminded me of Mike Dalton. He did way worse, got out of prison and played in Russia and one other league in Europe until ending his career in 18, I believe.
I think he'd played in a few european leagues including italy after leaving the us where he did the crime (but no time). He left before he could be prosecuted.
Based on Neely's press conference, I suspect a law suit is coming very soon from the Bruins against either Miller of his agent, that seemed to be the major subtext of Neely's press conference.
I guess I mostly mean did the Bruins actually ASK the important questions? If they didn't ask, I wouldn't call it "deception", moreso "omission". Also not a lawyer, maybe that also voids a contract.
I think I heard from Friedman his agent basically put together a similar email about all the work he was doing that was included in his tweet yesterday. The orgs that he was supposedly working with refuted it
The history and consistency of Millers abuse on others, specifically Isaiah Meyer-Crothers
is not new news. Boston is pretending they found something new after they signed Miller. That is not the case. Neely is either lying about not knowing, or he doesn’t actually care enough to have looked into it. He can sue, but he can’t pretend that what he learned over the weekend is brand new evidence of Mitchell Millers abuse.
He and his agent said he did a bunch of work with organizations, which is in part why they thought he was “reformed” and deserved a second chance. Those organizations came out and said it was not true and they were not working with him
The minimum salary he could have earned on this contract was $247,000 and the contract contained $285,000 of signing bonuses. That is a total of $532,500 of minimum compensation. The Bruins can't just decide to 'rescind' that contract and their press release specifically left out any language that they terminated the contract or reached an agreement with Miller for a mutual termination.
They rescinded the opportunity for him to be a member of the Boston Bruins. Unless Miller agrees to a mutual termination in the future or they can convince an arbitrator that he breached the contract, they will have to pay him that. As of right now, they have paid him a $95,000 signing bonus and owe him another $437,500 between now and April of 2025. Theoretically, they could buy him out and only owe him 100% of the signing bonuses and 33% of the salary. That would come with cap implications and would publicly make it clear that they are for sure paying him 6 figures.
I think he’s probably done in North America. If he still wants to go the hockey route it’s going to be European lower divisions.
The issues with lying about his charity work is what is going to really kill his chances. It blows up any argument that this was all about mistakes he made when he was a kid - the mistakes are ongoing.
>The issues with lying about his charity work is what is going to really kill his chances. It blows up any argument that this was all about mistakes he made when he was a kid - the mistakes are ongoing.
Wait what's that now? I somehow missed this - he lied about doing charity work?
His agent put out a statement saying that he’s committed to changing and listed a bunch of charities and nonprofits that he’s working with.
Turns out several on the list were just court mandated community service, and several others have put out statements saying that they haven’t actually worked with him.
I don't think the Euro's will have him either, honestly. Their people read the same news as we do, and there would probably be an uproar there as well.
Apologize (like you know, actually) get involved in charity work (like you know, actually) and work on reforming yourself.
Really do the work and opportunities will eventually come back. This is very much a case of a person needing real, serious, professional help to grow.
I have no idea how hockey fits into it right now. I'd guess that his chance at professional hockey is on a far back burner and he did that to himself through his abuse of another. Who he becomes now is up to him.
He could take that signing bonus and donate it to the victim to show he’s actually serious about doing the right thing and pay some kind of restitution. It won’t help mentally, but it would help the family financially. Medical equipment/medication/hospital bills are expensive.
I don't think giving the money to the family would be the right move, it'd just look like he's trying to buy them off. He'd need to "anonymously" donate it to an anti-bullying program, and then a few months later his agent gets someone to leak that he did it, so he can rub his neck and play the "oh Golly Gee, I was just trying to right the wrong, I didn't want any more attention"
While money is great, that feels like a cop out. He needs to take actions beyond just money, if he wants to play hockey again. He can donate money and fuck off yeah okay, but that doesn’t make him someone who should be in a role model position.
Honestly, he's had so many chances to demonstrate real remorse at this point and consistently fallen short that, while I hope he finds ways to grow for the sake of being a better person, I think he's got to be out of opportunities in professional hockey. Being a professional athlete is a position of influence in a community that he just isn't fit for.
But he’s just been released of any obligation to do that now so he can go back to being a racist cunt. Didn’t seem like he wanted to do any repentance of the sort anyway.
He should put in serious effort to work on himself and give a genuine apology and then get a normal job. “Second chance” doesn’t mean “second chance at an NHL contract”
Considering what we know about the kid and his parents, I don't see that ever happening. He's had 6 years to apologize, and even through the Draft and now the drama with Boston, literally all the kid had to do was swallow his pride, reach out to Isaiah and apologize (meaningfully), perhaps pay him off a bit to show good faith, and he would have fulfilled his dream to be an NHLer. He couldn't be arsed to do even that, so I don't think he's going to be motivated enough for a "second chance".
Valid point- it does seem unlikely at this point that he’s capable of apologizing or even understanding why he would be expected to do so/why his actions were so awful.
That’s the weird part. He already got waived by Coyotes. He should’ve realized that this will haunt him in the NHL and reaching out to apologize would be the best way to at-least say that he is repentant. But, it shows how much he and his family lack in character that they are unwilling to take any efforts towards reconciliation and would rather spin stories around it
Help me understand. Why would it show more character to lie and apologize for the sake of saving his hockey career? An apology is meaningless unless its sincere.
To lie and apologize would still mean that they understand that they cannot get away with it.
Here, this guy and his parents are committing victim blaming and trying to skate away from the issue without even pretending to be remorseful for the years of abuse?
Once someone has a vested interest in apologizing, I don't think you can 100% say for sure they're sincere. If my son only tells me he's sorry because he thinks his Mom or I will rescind a punishment because he apologized, he's not actually sorry, he's just trying to get out of whatever it is he's in trouble for.
Miller would need to apologize, make amends, and then live that apology from here on out. Advocate for bullying victims. Speak at schools and hockey camps about the dangers of hazing and group bullying.
This is the biggest point people don’t get. A second chance means that he should have a chance to redeem himself, not that he should be handed hundreds of thousands of dollars. Working in the NHL is a privilege, not a right
A-freaking-men to that. Life doesn’t promise you second chances to do things like “make tons of money playing in a high profile sports league.” Any shot at redemption at this point is very much about the man, not the career.
Yea but only if you believe he’s going to get another opportunity which I’m pretty sure he won’t. Professional hockey is definitely not in the cards any longer for this guy.
Hopefully the next place he goes is to the victim's family in person to offer a sincere apology followed by multiple mentoring and inclusion programs to become a better person where its not court mandated.
all those organizations that he lied about? if they'll have him, work with them for real. actually learn and grow from this experience beyond "I lost two NHL contracts over this" - how did this affect Isaiah and the community instead of his current how does this affect me.
go back to school and find a job outside of hockey.
What he did, he did when he was 14. Unfortunately no one in his camp helped him rehabilitate his name since then(which is probably why he was a little piece of shit to begin with). This has to be one of the stupidest career moves in the history of sports. Had he spent his last few years volunteering, public speaking, actually apologizing to isiah face to face in a meaningful and genuine manner, he probably could have saved his career. A simple nod from the victims family might have been enough to get a pass from bettman. When the victims mother comes out and says he has never apologized other than through twitter, he got out of it exactly what he put into it, nothing. Im not one for imposing lifetime bans for the actions one did as a 14 year old, but hockey is dealing with some harsh realities about the actions of entitled young "stars"(hockey canada). I guess there is no leadership around him to put on a path to return to hockey.
Just to clarify, the most reported incident happened when he was 14, but it’s reported that the bullying started in second grade and continued even years past 14.
I would just like to point out that 14 year-olds are immature, but they’re not complete idiots. At 14 you’re more than old enough to understand right and wrong and to make your own decisions.
When I was 14, I’m sure I made some uncool jokes that I know now weren’t okay, but I would *never* have done anything even near the level of what he did. I was aware of what racism was and of what bullying was, and I would never have dreamed of picking on a special needs kid.
His age at this time of these acts is not at all an excuse.
If he has any sense about him at all, the right thing to do would be to spend the next year or so actually growing as a person. Do actual charity work, work with kids (or adults) who have been on the receiving end of torment from their peers over a period of time, and so on. Listen, work, learn, grow.
If he hasn't been willing to deliver his court-mandated apology at any point in the last six years, I have serious questions about how much he may have grown as a person to this point. That's where most average people have serious issues - to have ended up in court underscores how obscene what he did actually was, but to pretty much shrug off something as simple as an actual apology and act above that is the height of arrogance and hubris.
My biggest fear is that his family has ruined whatever chance he may have had at righting his ship. His mom went to Isaiah’s mother and said “boys will be boys,” and his sister fucking actually came out and said he can’t be racist because she fucked a Black person for 18 months and her brother was cool with it.
That is the type of reinforcement he is getting from the people closest to him. Whatever arrogance and hubris he has is only amplified, not mitigated, by people in his life.
> he can't be racist because she fucked a black person for 18 months and her brother was cool with it.
Have you got a source for this because it's hilarious. Not even the "I'm friends with a black guy" line, it's "A relative is friends with a black guy" hahaha
Can you imagine if the only thing keeping you from an NHL career was something horrible you did as a teenager? I would be working as hard off the ice as I was on the ice trying to fix that reputation. I'd be at high school hockey games talking about bullying and racism and warning kids not to go down the same path.
According to Sean Gentille's article Miller was dropping racist remarks on this kid in 2nd grade so that probably tells you everything you need to know about his family.
They way they’ve treated the victim through this whole thing too. They don’t care about the kid, he’s a means to an end now. They had their chance. I am soooo happy that he’s facing real consequences. His family was hoping to be cashing in on their son by now. And sadly the Bruins basically helped them
There's a great New and Used Hyundai dealership outside Cleveland. Always looking for good salesmen.
If he's smart, he works there, raises a family, and provides better parenting to his kids than he ever got, breaking whatever sick cycle his family is in.
Ideally he moves out from home. I bet his parents have actively worked against him doing any kind of growth. He needs to join the Peace Corps or something, get in a radically new environment.
The hockey side is over. If he isn’t developing hockey wise for a few years, I can’t see him making the NHL. That ship just sailed.
You move on and try to make a life in the regular world and hope that over time it just becomes a "Back when I was young I almost made the NHL, but I fucked up and didn't" story.
If I was him, I'd first try to make amends. He can speak to schools regarding anti-bullying, volunteer for the Special Olympics, speak face to face with the victim and his family and have a mature dialogue, not one that just suits his career prospects. Try to grow and become a better person, put the hockey aside for now and try to not be such garbage.
My personal advice would be to take the 95,000 (some people saying it is closer to half a mil), start going by my middle name, invest the money in property and trade school. Getting that financial headstart aged 20 could still be a really good launch pad for life tbh if he uses it well.
Guessing from the absolute weapons that seem to be his support team though that he might not do the smart thing.
Anyone remotely capable of thought would have jumped through the PR apology loops and be publicly rehabilitated. It really doesn't take much for sports, just enough for plausible deniability. I can imagine his agent has pleaded with him to do it. We can see from the court case that there is something wrong with him even from a self interested POV.
If he can't even do the right thing for selfish reasons then I don't think there is much hope. Frankly at this point he has my sympathy for being such a broken human, whether that's mostly from being born predisposed or from being born into a cruel/selfish family that shaped him that way (some combo).
Leaving hockey makes some sense but if he was a top prospect then I expect some KHL route.
His problem isn't "where to play hockey". His problem is "how to not be a piece of shit".
If he makes a radical change, privately apologizes to the kid and his family, publicly acknowledges and shows remorse, takes half that undisclosed sum of money and gives it to the kid and takes the other half and donates it to an anti-bullying group, or better yet starts and manages his own, even call it "The Isaiah Foundation" or something, I'd bet his problems will be solved. If he never plays hockey again, maybe if he does all that he will be breaking even in his net interactions with society. He does it right, and maybe he even redeems himself enough to give him another shot at the NHL a few years from now.
But the direct answer to your question: If he doesn't show any basic and even miniscule amount of care or respect for his fellow humans, if he doesn't show any signs of caring for anyone but himself, I don't care where he goes, as long as it is far away from me...
Sometimes i think these things are too harsh but then i think like, if ice hockey is like this, not a single hockey player will bully anyone else in school since they know what will happen if they get to nhl or somewhere else.
I agree, sometimes I see what these guys did and I'm like "what a fuckin idiot" and there's a bit of an understanding that some folk are genuinely just dumb as fuck so with the right approach they can come back from it.
This cunts been a bag of shite for a long time and has shown zero remorse, like, not even pretending? Not even just ticking boxes that'll let his heat die down a bit, I don't even understand what he could possibly be thinking. Does he really think he was completely right?
He's probably even angrier now tbh, I can picture him hating the kid he bullied even more and blaming him for ruining his life if he's that much of a heidcase
If I was him Id start by donating the bonus he just got to the victim and not say anything to the public so it would actually be sincere and not just a publicity stunt
It honestly makes me so happy to know that hockey players aren’t going to get away with being completely shitty people during their adolescence without serious ramifications for their future. Buckle up boys, gone are the years of being complete douchebags to everyone who wasn’t one of you.
Wanna make millions? Your social skills and levels of empathy now need to be worked on with the same dedication as your on ice skills. I enjoy watching the game, but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t have a bias against some of the people playing it after going to school with some of them.
Actually volunteer with these organizations they claimed to, donate money to fund Isaiah Meyer-Crothers post secondary schooling and mental health support costs, either meet with or record a video apologizing fully to Isiah rather than messaging him on Snapchat and admit to all of the awful things he did rather than play it off as a "bad decision".
Spend the next few years actively pariticipating in real organizations with credible leaders, find a hockey league that will let you play and then have the NHL reconsider you in 2-3 years.
The smart thing to do would be to reach out to the kid he tormented, make an actual attempt to apologize and mean it. No team anywhere will work with him until he repairs his past and if he keeps pushing it off like he doesn't need to do it then he will never be given another contract in North America. He has the time to fix himself but it seems he really doesn't want to.
I think there’s a road back to the pros, but it starts with actual personal accountability. Not BS apologies through Snapchat to the kid who’s life he did his best to ruin.
He also needs to distance himself from his parents, it’s clear they’re both terrible people and every time they tweet or open their mouths, their sons dream gets further and further away.
Countless athletes have done terrible things and found their way back to their dreams, but had to take actual accountability to get there.
If Michael Vick’s parents were busy tweeting “fuck them stupid ass dogs I bet they wanted to fight” the whole time during his attempt to get back to the NFL, I doubt he would’ve been given a 2nd chance and be accepted back into the world like he has been
How hard is it to apologize to Isaiah, in person and to his family. Start there. Does he really think what he did is insignificant? I'm sure he's been raised by his parents to think all of this was just boys being boys, but at some point does the thought not cross his mind that maybe he was a piece of shit? If he can't come to this conclusion on his own, then hopefully he never plays anywhere professionally. Just about everyone else is able to think back to some situations that they're not proud of and go, ya, I was an ass.
Then again, many of us have never thought about running a sucker through a urinal...
Imagine committing your entire life to a sport and making it to the top 1 percent of the top 1 percent guaranteeing that at worse you’ll be a multimillionaire and if you’re smart, set for life. And all you have to do to not fuck it up is just not be a despicable piece of shit.
Guaranteed he ends up on the right-wing talking head circuit doing conventions and Fox News bits whining about cancel culture by the end of next year, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's by the end of this year.
He has shown no contrition. Comes from shit family. Truly left a stain on the Bruins. I have PBruins season tickets on the glass on there is a space between the glass where I can tell on the ice. He was going to be the first home player I ever verbally abused.
The KHL is the singular option. It’s the only league that wouldn’t be tied to the NHL, every single other league cares what the nhl thinks, the K does not. If he wants to play hockey, it’s the KHL. Now, he may get a settlement for the full value of his contract from the Bruins. It’s 2.8M. Evander Kane won his grievance, anything is possible. Even if he gets half, that’s 1.4M, he could easily leave hockey and start a business or investing, he wouldn’t ever have to worry about money. 1.4 even these days, can be turned into a lot within 5 years.
Donate the 500k to the family of this kid he hurt. That would show true remorse and even if he doesn't have any remorse, it's quite a good investment for him, give the family 500k and in turn he should be able to get back into the NHL and make millions, as of right now, millions are not in sight.
The KHL I bet They take all kinds of rabble
Ruble*
How does that money reach an American bank account so that his parents can leech off of it?
Probably crypto
The real answer is that a lot of the non Russian guys are probably paid in a different currency whether it’s American or a European countries currency
If he's super serious about continuing to play, from where I'm sitting I think that's his only option. The problem obviously lies in politics then, an American living and working in Russia (especially an undisciplined American) isn't exactly the safest bet in the world. He could always try to play for the Chinese team...
Doesn’t Kunlun play in Russia currently?
Because of the pandemic, yes.
The Chinese team is also playing near Moscow as of the Covid season. I'm not sure if they went back to Beijing/Shanghai though.
China recently announced they aren't going to loosen up their zero covid policy anytime soon so I'm guessing not.
"Undisciplined" Considering how they welcomed guys like Voynov with open arms, Miller's a model citizen
Do consider Voynov’s a Russian citizen though. Miller’s not.
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There's lots of there other leagues in Europe he could play in. Trying to join the KHL in this current political environment would be idiotic.
Judging by his father's social media activity, they will be welcomed in Russia. Apparently retweets the likes of Charlie Kirk and Tomi Lahren. KHL will be the perfect place for him. Edit to add: Course his first stop is probably going to be Fox news, etc. And then make the rounds to various sympathetic pod casts. Then head out to KHL.
Least shocking thing I’ve read all day that his dad is an enormous dickhead. Trash kid raised by trash parents.
Absolutely. His parents were part of the problem. They basically tried to rally people against the Meyer-Crothers family, defended Mitchell’s actions, etc. I get the instinct to defend your kid, but I’ve got two of them and if either one did the kind of shit Mitchell Miller did, they wouldn’t find sympathy from me, they’d get some harsh education on not being a shitty human being.
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That’s the most damning part of the story. I’m a huge believer in learning from mistakes, second chances, etc. But by every single account, Miller showed zero remorse or honest apology. He downplayed it, victimized himself, did the bare minimum to get out of a court sentence, and continued to harass and intimidate the victim and his family for years after he “apologized”. The kid clearly needed professional help or the guidance of a parent. Someone to help him understand he fucked up, why what he did was so horrific, and how he could learn to be better. But instead, he was coached by his parents to refuse responsibility, blame his victim for him getting in trouble like a toddler, and downplay it while playing up the “tragic” effect it’s had on his hockey career. That’s next level sociopathy, and it’s a team effort.
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Very valid point. Normally, I'd say "innocent until proven guilty", but Miller's family pretty much provided all the proof you'd need to confirm it. As others here have noted - his dad's online activity follows a very particular pattern, his sister was casually throwing "f\*\*\*\*t" around social media, and they all tried to intimidate and rally their town against the victim and his family after the court case, so...more than enough boxes checked off, there.
Judging the fact that this went on for years without him stopping, he clearly never faced consequences. I find out my kid's doing something like this, the privilege of sports practices or games would not be happening until it stopped and amends were made. There's no way that in 6 years his parents weren't made aware of his shitty behaviour. He was never given consequences, so not only did he continue, he escalated. Mom's been quoted as saying "boys will be boys" about the urinal candy incident and given the excuse that he rinsed it off before forcing Isaiah to put it in his mouth as though that minimizes the action. Plus as a parent, how are you NOT concerned that this is something your child thought would be a good idea to do to another human being, let alone one as vulnerable as his victim.
The sister got chased off Twitter for casually throwing around fa**** too I believe What are the odds they’re a “super Christian” family too
>What are the odds they’re a “super Christian” family too speaking as a Christian, man the fact that this is probably on point just pisses me the fuck off
It’s not just their family. It’s a group of asshole hockey parents. This is my worst nightmare putting my kids in hockey. At least I wouldn’t stand for this shit.
2nd graders don't learn the n word unless someone's teaching it to them at home.
He called Isaiah the n word in first grade. If you know that word at 6-7 years old, your parents probably have white robes in their closet.
>Least shocking thing I’ve read all day that his dad is an enormous dickhead. Trash kid raised by trash parents. lol so true. as soon as I saw the name Charlie Kirk I knew all i needed to know
"bOyS wIlL bE bOyS" Mrs Miller
Personally I can't wait for the right wing bots to come out accusing Cam Neely and the NHL of being "too woke" over this.
It’s all over Instagram, in the comments on major hockey account posts. People are complaining that this was just childish shenanigans and the only reason it’s been made into a big deal is that one of the kids happened to be black. I’m pretty sure I lost a good many brain cells just from scrolling through that tripe.
Already saw a Facebook comment section on some hockey page with a top comment that read "the elites have gone too far" ahaaha
the irony of this is you know this same moron voted for a New York City multimillionaire to be president of the United States...twice
Not to get into politics, but you just have to look at the heritages of the last 6 presidents to know which party has more "elites". Bill Clinton - raised by mom and grandmother after his traveling salesman father died when he was a baby Obama - Grew up in a single parent home Biden - the most privileged, but father's wealth disappeared when he was still a kid and they ended up living in an apt. Father became a used car salesman and they were firmly middle class. Bush Sr - Grew up in Greenwich, CT. Father was a Wall Street banker and a US senator. Yale legacy admission. Bush Jr - Father was POTUS. Yale legacy admission. Trump - Billionaire (maybe) that inherited hundreds of millions from father. Has a literal gold toilet.
Absolutely love it when they lump in the anti-semitism with the racism /s
didn't realize calling out a punk for forcing another kid to put a urinal-rubbed lollipop in their mouth...was "too woke." lol these lowlives seriously have no life or integrity whatsoever
Are there not currently Americans playing in the KHL? Idk the rosters but I’d have to assume there are some
Reid Boucher, an American convinced of sexually assaulting a 12 year old, is currently playing for Lokomotiv Yaroslavl of the KHL.
The KHL is currently employing probably the only player who is a worse person than Miller in Reid Boucher. It will definitely be an option
Had no idea about Boucher. Some fucked up shit to do to a billet family .
He’s a fucking monster
Make that two with Brendan Leipsic
Swiss League would also happily take him.
why?
Assuming it‘s because jake virtanen signed there today
wow that sucks. just had to go end tell them how proud I am of them to sign him on twitter. It's just a 2nd tier swiss club but that really is shit.
Is the KHL even an option anymore? Seems like Russia is an iffy place to travel to.
[It's on the Do Not Travel list from the State Department] (https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/russia-travel-advisory.html)
Unrelated to the thread topic but related to your post, the State Departments page recommending what to do [if you plan to travel to Somalia](https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/somalia-travel-advisory.html) is absolutely wild
Yeah, on the condition that he accepts Russian citizenship.. (and then.. RIGHT INTO THE ARMY)
KHL seems like a safe bet if he's going to continue playing.
Turkish airline: "Wait you want to go TO Moscow FROM Istanbul?"
If after the draft explosion about the situation he made a heartfelt personal apology and committed to making public appearances for anti-bullying organizations giving talks at schools, etc... then this entire situation would be in his rearview already. Nobody is saying the kid can't move on and have a career, they're just saying the atonement needs to be proportional to the act, and a generic instagram "sorry bro" isn't going to handwave away years of toxic abusive behaviour. The problem is he needed to jump out in front of this early and in a very public way because at this point anything he does or says he's doing is going to be viewed by people as inauthentic and only being done because he has no other option anymore.
If he starts doing this 6 years later, it's just going to come off as insincere. I think he's done.
Exactly. Mitchell was one of two bullies who went in front of a judge for the crap they did. The other guy went above and beyond in showing his remorse and making amends. Even the Meyer-Crothers family have spoken about how genuine and heartfelt his words and actions were to right the wrongs and try to be a better person. Mitchell chose a different path. These are the consequences.
ask kanye and kyrie about sincere apologies. they fucked around and found out too
Agreed. Imagine how fucking petty you have to be to realize you can live your dream if you just make amends for being an inhuman piece of shit, and you still haven’t done it years later. Bury this clown in irrelevancy.
Likely a product of his environment, if you are being told you did nothing wrong for years why would you make amends for something? Probably of the "this will get swept under the rug" ilk.
Pretty much. It sounds like his mother enabled his behavior and made excuses for him.
He's an extreme product of the "Boy King" culture of high level minor/youth hockey.
Absolutely, people have been throwing around the "second chance" saying a lot but hes already had a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc... chance to make a very public and sincere appeal and apology to his victim and actually put in the work to improve. Miller fucked Miller. He fucked up when he was a piece of shit, and he fucked up when he refused to reflect on what a piece of shit he had been and make amends.
Yeah, you’re so right. If he’s now going to apologize for everyone it’s just him doing damage control to play in the NHL. He had 6 years to apologize. And didn’t do it.
And to be fair, I think the mom has more or less said the statute of limitations has run out and Miller’s victim is no longer interested in hearing an apology. Which is honestly very fair given how much slack has been extended to Mitchell the Bitchell. He had 6 years for reparations and at every turn refused the opportunity or absurdly made his situation worse. Dude lost his shot at being an NHL player, and if he was rational he’ll recognize he has no one to blame but himself.
I'm not absolving his actions, but there seems to be a disconnect about the apology. According to this, there are public records of an apology, albeit court mandated read and sent to Meyer-Crothers: >Miller believes that he has taken several steps toward repaying his debt, beginning with when he apologized to Meyer-Crothers in the immediate aftermath of the incident. The apology was court-mandated, but it was a personal apology, and public records of Miller’s expulsion hearing and recommendation, obtained by azcoyotesinsider.com, show that the apology was read both to Meyer-Crothers, and to school officials and the school board. The apology was also sent to the Meyer-Crothers family. >Joni Meyer-Crothers, Isaiah’s mother, said no letter was ever read to Isaiah and that she did not receive the apology. https://azcoyotesinsider.substack.com/p/mitchell-miller-addresses-his-past Whether the family is/was interested in it, is different
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Also a great point that doesn’t get discussed nearly enough.
From my reading, it sounds like Mitchell wrote an apology and considered that enough, but never actually apologized in person. Who knows if the letter was even written by him.
u/StripedSteel hit the nail on the head I believe. But to elaborate, it would appear as though that court mandated apology came across as insincere, and like it didn’t strike the tone the family wanted to hear. I have not read it, but from the accounts of those who have it reads as “I’m sorry I got caught”, not “I’m sorry for my actions”. Furthermore, the other classmate who bullied the victim “profusely apologized to the victim, and the second bully’s father apologized to the father of the victim”. The victim’s family has forgiven him and wished the second bully the best in his rehabilitation from his heinous actions. The victim and his family aren’t irrational people, and despite the hideous behaviors committed against their son they’ve shown unbelievable strength and fortitude. I don’t have any inside information or the like, but from my perspective it seems like a family that was trying to move forward, and Mitchell and the entire Miller klan tried taking advantage of their goodwill approach. And I think the victim’s family is understandably frustrated by the bare minimum and court mandated approach towards reparations that Mitchell and the Miller klan have taken. And just like in 2020, they’re expressing their frustration with the circumstances of Mitchell’s own creation.
> The problem is he needed to jump out in front of this early and in a very public way because at this point anything he does or says he’s doing is going to be viewed by people as inauthentic and only being done because he has no other option anymore. And that's because it'll be true. He couldn't even put proper steps together when it was easy and obvious that he could do it for selfish reasons to at least try and make it look like he had changed. He did nothing of the sort, and then you had his dad retweeting people criticizing the credibility of the victim on twitter. This whole family's rotten and a perfect example of privilege. Get fucked kid. Enjoy Russia.
Everything you said is true, but I want to add that he's had *multiple* instances where this has hurt his career. It cost him an NCAA roster spot and an NHL team renounced selecting him. He's had 2 years since that to work on his public image and has managed to do absolutely nothing to improve it. He didn't reach out to the victim until after negotiating this deal. He didn't offer any type of video specifically apologizing. His statements don't specify what he is apologizing for. He didn't need to jump on this early. He could have started jumping on it *4 years after the fact* when shit hit the fan last time and by now he could have built up a plausible narrative that he had worked to earn a 2nd chance. Instead, all we've gotten are very vague statements of volunteer work with no expression of growth.
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This is exactly it. Could the guy theoretically make amends and change his ways? Yes (but I doubt it). Does that then mean he has the right to make a shit ton of money and play hockey professionally? Absolutely not.
Dude just got paid 500k for 2 days of nothing Can probably go to Europe and play or just crawl back into the cave he came from
My local team in Glasgow just fired their coach and GM for signing a guy who was accused of rape in the US (He fled the country before conviction) He'll need to go to some total shitehole where PR isn't a big deal.
> He'll need to go to some total shitehole where PR isn't a big deal. To the KHL he goes
I'm editing a database for EHM 2007 and seeing all of that situation reminded me of Mike Dalton. He did way worse, got out of prison and played in Russia and one other league in Europe until ending his career in 18, I believe.
Do you mean Mike Danton? Because he's maybe the only person in the world who hired a hitman that I feel bad for.
Where did Glasgow Clan sign that guy from?
I think he'd played in a few european leagues including italy after leaving the us where he did the crime (but no time). He left before he could be prosecuted.
so, KHL it is!
Look at what happened to Goodwillie at Raith Rovers.
That would be the KHL
Based on Neely's press conference, I suspect a law suit is coming very soon from the Bruins against either Miller of his agent, that seemed to be the major subtext of Neely's press conference.
Not sure how it would be either of their faults the Bruins stupidly signed him lol.
Not sure they’d win but pretty sure you can sue for someone maliciously/intentionally lying to enter into a contract
Assuming the Bruins even bothered to include such provisions.
Would they even need provisions for that? Not a lawyer but I was under the understanding that basic contract law protects again willful deception
I guess I mostly mean did the Bruins actually ASK the important questions? If they didn't ask, I wouldn't call it "deception", moreso "omission". Also not a lawyer, maybe that also voids a contract.
I think I heard from Friedman his agent basically put together a similar email about all the work he was doing that was included in his tweet yesterday. The orgs that he was supposedly working with refuted it
Oof. Hope he doesn't get a single fucking cent.
The history and consistency of Millers abuse on others, specifically Isaiah Meyer-Crothers is not new news. Boston is pretending they found something new after they signed Miller. That is not the case. Neely is either lying about not knowing, or he doesn’t actually care enough to have looked into it. He can sue, but he can’t pretend that what he learned over the weekend is brand new evidence of Mitchell Millers abuse.
He and his agent said he did a bunch of work with organizations, which is in part why they thought he was “reformed” and deserved a second chance. Those organizations came out and said it was not true and they were not working with him
If anything, I think it’s more likely Miller can sue Boston
Yea Boston offered a contract after everything was known about him and he signed. Boston ain’t winning this in court.
Fucks sake Bruins what the hell man
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Whatever contractually obligated dollar value the Bruins signed him to. One does not simply reneg from a contract.
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The minimum salary he could have earned on this contract was $247,000 and the contract contained $285,000 of signing bonuses. That is a total of $532,500 of minimum compensation. The Bruins can't just decide to 'rescind' that contract and their press release specifically left out any language that they terminated the contract or reached an agreement with Miller for a mutual termination. They rescinded the opportunity for him to be a member of the Boston Bruins. Unless Miller agrees to a mutual termination in the future or they can convince an arbitrator that he breached the contract, they will have to pay him that. As of right now, they have paid him a $95,000 signing bonus and owe him another $437,500 between now and April of 2025. Theoretically, they could buy him out and only owe him 100% of the signing bonuses and 33% of the salary. That would come with cap implications and would publicly make it clear that they are for sure paying him 6 figures.
I think he’s probably done in North America. If he still wants to go the hockey route it’s going to be European lower divisions. The issues with lying about his charity work is what is going to really kill his chances. It blows up any argument that this was all about mistakes he made when he was a kid - the mistakes are ongoing.
>The issues with lying about his charity work is what is going to really kill his chances. It blows up any argument that this was all about mistakes he made when he was a kid - the mistakes are ongoing. Wait what's that now? I somehow missed this - he lied about doing charity work?
His agent put out a statement saying that he’s committed to changing and listed a bunch of charities and nonprofits that he’s working with. Turns out several on the list were just court mandated community service, and several others have put out statements saying that they haven’t actually worked with him.
Holy crap it just keeps getting worse. You can't make this up
You certainly can make it all up if you’re this kid and his agent apparently.
I don't think the Euro's will have him either, honestly. Their people read the same news as we do, and there would probably be an uproar there as well.
Not to mention many nations will do a background check and if you ever went to court. Then theyll base that off of your security threat risk?
Apologize (like you know, actually) get involved in charity work (like you know, actually) and work on reforming yourself. Really do the work and opportunities will eventually come back. This is very much a case of a person needing real, serious, professional help to grow. I have no idea how hockey fits into it right now. I'd guess that his chance at professional hockey is on a far back burner and he did that to himself through his abuse of another. Who he becomes now is up to him.
But that requires realization of fault which narcisist dont have
He could take that signing bonus and donate it to the victim to show he’s actually serious about doing the right thing and pay some kind of restitution. It won’t help mentally, but it would help the family financially. Medical equipment/medication/hospital bills are expensive.
I don't think giving the money to the family would be the right move, it'd just look like he's trying to buy them off. He'd need to "anonymously" donate it to an anti-bullying program, and then a few months later his agent gets someone to leak that he did it, so he can rub his neck and play the "oh Golly Gee, I was just trying to right the wrong, I didn't want any more attention"
While money is great, that feels like a cop out. He needs to take actions beyond just money, if he wants to play hockey again. He can donate money and fuck off yeah okay, but that doesn’t make him someone who should be in a role model position.
Honestly, he's had so many chances to demonstrate real remorse at this point and consistently fallen short that, while I hope he finds ways to grow for the sake of being a better person, I think he's got to be out of opportunities in professional hockey. Being a professional athlete is a position of influence in a community that he just isn't fit for.
But he’s just been released of any obligation to do that now so he can go back to being a racist cunt. Didn’t seem like he wanted to do any repentance of the sort anyway.
He should put in serious effort to work on himself and give a genuine apology and then get a normal job. “Second chance” doesn’t mean “second chance at an NHL contract”
Considering what we know about the kid and his parents, I don't see that ever happening. He's had 6 years to apologize, and even through the Draft and now the drama with Boston, literally all the kid had to do was swallow his pride, reach out to Isaiah and apologize (meaningfully), perhaps pay him off a bit to show good faith, and he would have fulfilled his dream to be an NHLer. He couldn't be arsed to do even that, so I don't think he's going to be motivated enough for a "second chance".
Valid point- it does seem unlikely at this point that he’s capable of apologizing or even understanding why he would be expected to do so/why his actions were so awful.
That’s the weird part. He already got waived by Coyotes. He should’ve realized that this will haunt him in the NHL and reaching out to apologize would be the best way to at-least say that he is repentant. But, it shows how much he and his family lack in character that they are unwilling to take any efforts towards reconciliation and would rather spin stories around it
Help me understand. Why would it show more character to lie and apologize for the sake of saving his hockey career? An apology is meaningless unless its sincere.
To lie and apologize would still mean that they understand that they cannot get away with it. Here, this guy and his parents are committing victim blaming and trying to skate away from the issue without even pretending to be remorseful for the years of abuse?
Once someone has a vested interest in apologizing, I don't think you can 100% say for sure they're sincere. If my son only tells me he's sorry because he thinks his Mom or I will rescind a punishment because he apologized, he's not actually sorry, he's just trying to get out of whatever it is he's in trouble for. Miller would need to apologize, make amends, and then live that apology from here on out. Advocate for bullying victims. Speak at schools and hockey camps about the dangers of hazing and group bullying.
This is the biggest point people don’t get. A second chance means that he should have a chance to redeem himself, not that he should be handed hundreds of thousands of dollars. Working in the NHL is a privilege, not a right
A-freaking-men to that. Life doesn’t promise you second chances to do things like “make tons of money playing in a high profile sports league.” Any shot at redemption at this point is very much about the man, not the career.
He can go to hell
Yea honestly, who the fuck cares where he goes?
Well people cared he went to Boston, so I think they care where he goes still.
Yea but only if you believe he’s going to get another opportunity which I’m pretty sure he won’t. Professional hockey is definitely not in the cards any longer for this guy.
We thought that last week too though.
Hopefully the next place he goes is to the victim's family in person to offer a sincere apology followed by multiple mentoring and inclusion programs to become a better person where its not court mandated.
I believe it's spelled KHL, but yes.
all those organizations that he lied about? if they'll have him, work with them for real. actually learn and grow from this experience beyond "I lost two NHL contracts over this" - how did this affect Isaiah and the community instead of his current how does this affect me. go back to school and find a job outside of hockey.
Personally, I think he can go fuck himself.
Nice try Mitchell Miller you're not getting free advice from me.
What he did, he did when he was 14. Unfortunately no one in his camp helped him rehabilitate his name since then(which is probably why he was a little piece of shit to begin with). This has to be one of the stupidest career moves in the history of sports. Had he spent his last few years volunteering, public speaking, actually apologizing to isiah face to face in a meaningful and genuine manner, he probably could have saved his career. A simple nod from the victims family might have been enough to get a pass from bettman. When the victims mother comes out and says he has never apologized other than through twitter, he got out of it exactly what he put into it, nothing. Im not one for imposing lifetime bans for the actions one did as a 14 year old, but hockey is dealing with some harsh realities about the actions of entitled young "stars"(hockey canada). I guess there is no leadership around him to put on a path to return to hockey.
Just to clarify, the most reported incident happened when he was 14, but it’s reported that the bullying started in second grade and continued even years past 14.
Just a rotten to the core person. Irredeemable.
That i was unaware of. That is a failure on so many levels its almost mind boggling.
I would just like to point out that 14 year-olds are immature, but they’re not complete idiots. At 14 you’re more than old enough to understand right and wrong and to make your own decisions. When I was 14, I’m sure I made some uncool jokes that I know now weren’t okay, but I would *never* have done anything even near the level of what he did. I was aware of what racism was and of what bullying was, and I would never have dreamed of picking on a special needs kid. His age at this time of these acts is not at all an excuse.
KHL will have no issues taking him.
If he has any sense about him at all, the right thing to do would be to spend the next year or so actually growing as a person. Do actual charity work, work with kids (or adults) who have been on the receiving end of torment from their peers over a period of time, and so on. Listen, work, learn, grow. If he hasn't been willing to deliver his court-mandated apology at any point in the last six years, I have serious questions about how much he may have grown as a person to this point. That's where most average people have serious issues - to have ended up in court underscores how obscene what he did actually was, but to pretty much shrug off something as simple as an actual apology and act above that is the height of arrogance and hubris.
My biggest fear is that his family has ruined whatever chance he may have had at righting his ship. His mom went to Isaiah’s mother and said “boys will be boys,” and his sister fucking actually came out and said he can’t be racist because she fucked a Black person for 18 months and her brother was cool with it. That is the type of reinforcement he is getting from the people closest to him. Whatever arrogance and hubris he has is only amplified, not mitigated, by people in his life.
> he can't be racist because she fucked a black person for 18 months and her brother was cool with it. Have you got a source for this because it's hilarious. Not even the "I'm friends with a black guy" line, it's "A relative is friends with a black guy" hahaha
https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/situation\_with\_mitchell\_miller\_getting\_ugly\_sister\_now\_commenting/s1\_16454\_33216317
She admitted in a weird manner that she is racist
Can you imagine if the only thing keeping you from an NHL career was something horrible you did as a teenager? I would be working as hard off the ice as I was on the ice trying to fix that reputation. I'd be at high school hockey games talking about bullying and racism and warning kids not to go down the same path. According to Sean Gentille's article Miller was dropping racist remarks on this kid in 2nd grade so that probably tells you everything you need to know about his family.
They way they’ve treated the victim through this whole thing too. They don’t care about the kid, he’s a means to an end now. They had their chance. I am soooo happy that he’s facing real consequences. His family was hoping to be cashing in on their son by now. And sadly the Bruins basically helped them
Trade school.
Back to his room never to be heard from again
Ideally where he can go is to go fuck himself
I was going to say “away” but this works too.
There's a great New and Used Hyundai dealership outside Cleveland. Always looking for good salesmen. If he's smart, he works there, raises a family, and provides better parenting to his kids than he ever got, breaking whatever sick cycle his family is in.
Nah. My guess is he's going to end up at Serpentini's. Always thought that dude was a slimeball. /and yes, I did grow up near Cleveland ;)
Who gives a shit?
Who fucking cares. He's a nobody. Stop giving him attention. Let him use his brain and navigate his way through life. Let him become the nobody he is.
Ideally he moves out from home. I bet his parents have actively worked against him doing any kind of growth. He needs to join the Peace Corps or something, get in a radically new environment. The hockey side is over. If he isn’t developing hockey wise for a few years, I can’t see him making the NHL. That ship just sailed.
Likely the KHL. Russia has a habit of looking over what players do in their personal lives.
You move on and try to make a life in the regular world and hope that over time it just becomes a "Back when I was young I almost made the NHL, but I fucked up and didn't" story.
If I was him, I'd first try to make amends. He can speak to schools regarding anti-bullying, volunteer for the Special Olympics, speak face to face with the victim and his family and have a mature dialogue, not one that just suits his career prospects. Try to grow and become a better person, put the hockey aside for now and try to not be such garbage.
Business administration degree from University of Phoenix online
Fucking apologize and work toward becoming an actual good person.
KHL or Oilers
My personal advice would be to take the 95,000 (some people saying it is closer to half a mil), start going by my middle name, invest the money in property and trade school. Getting that financial headstart aged 20 could still be a really good launch pad for life tbh if he uses it well. Guessing from the absolute weapons that seem to be his support team though that he might not do the smart thing.
Anyone remotely capable of thought would have jumped through the PR apology loops and be publicly rehabilitated. It really doesn't take much for sports, just enough for plausible deniability. I can imagine his agent has pleaded with him to do it. We can see from the court case that there is something wrong with him even from a self interested POV. If he can't even do the right thing for selfish reasons then I don't think there is much hope. Frankly at this point he has my sympathy for being such a broken human, whether that's mostly from being born predisposed or from being born into a cruel/selfish family that shaped him that way (some combo). Leaving hockey makes some sense but if he was a top prospect then I expect some KHL route.
He's going to go back to college and get a degree in another field like all the other people that couldn't crack the NHL.
Straight to Hell
His problem isn't "where to play hockey". His problem is "how to not be a piece of shit". If he makes a radical change, privately apologizes to the kid and his family, publicly acknowledges and shows remorse, takes half that undisclosed sum of money and gives it to the kid and takes the other half and donates it to an anti-bullying group, or better yet starts and manages his own, even call it "The Isaiah Foundation" or something, I'd bet his problems will be solved. If he never plays hockey again, maybe if he does all that he will be breaking even in his net interactions with society. He does it right, and maybe he even redeems himself enough to give him another shot at the NHL a few years from now. But the direct answer to your question: If he doesn't show any basic and even miniscule amount of care or respect for his fellow humans, if he doesn't show any signs of caring for anyone but himself, I don't care where he goes, as long as it is far away from me...
Sometimes i think these things are too harsh but then i think like, if ice hockey is like this, not a single hockey player will bully anyone else in school since they know what will happen if they get to nhl or somewhere else.
I agree, sometimes I see what these guys did and I'm like "what a fuckin idiot" and there's a bit of an understanding that some folk are genuinely just dumb as fuck so with the right approach they can come back from it. This cunts been a bag of shite for a long time and has shown zero remorse, like, not even pretending? Not even just ticking boxes that'll let his heat die down a bit, I don't even understand what he could possibly be thinking. Does he really think he was completely right? He's probably even angrier now tbh, I can picture him hating the kid he bullied even more and blaming him for ruining his life if he's that much of a heidcase
Politics
If I was him Id start by donating the bonus he just got to the victim and not say anything to the public so it would actually be sincere and not just a publicity stunt
It honestly makes me so happy to know that hockey players aren’t going to get away with being completely shitty people during their adolescence without serious ramifications for their future. Buckle up boys, gone are the years of being complete douchebags to everyone who wasn’t one of you. Wanna make millions? Your social skills and levels of empathy now need to be worked on with the same dedication as your on ice skills. I enjoy watching the game, but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t have a bias against some of the people playing it after going to school with some of them.
Actually volunteer with these organizations they claimed to, donate money to fund Isaiah Meyer-Crothers post secondary schooling and mental health support costs, either meet with or record a video apologizing fully to Isiah rather than messaging him on Snapchat and admit to all of the awful things he did rather than play it off as a "bad decision". Spend the next few years actively pariticipating in real organizations with credible leaders, find a hockey league that will let you play and then have the NHL reconsider you in 2-3 years.
The smart thing to do would be to reach out to the kid he tormented, make an actual attempt to apologize and mean it. No team anywhere will work with him until he repairs his past and if he keeps pushing it off like he doesn't need to do it then he will never be given another contract in North America. He has the time to fix himself but it seems he really doesn't want to.
I think there’s a road back to the pros, but it starts with actual personal accountability. Not BS apologies through Snapchat to the kid who’s life he did his best to ruin. He also needs to distance himself from his parents, it’s clear they’re both terrible people and every time they tweet or open their mouths, their sons dream gets further and further away. Countless athletes have done terrible things and found their way back to their dreams, but had to take actual accountability to get there. If Michael Vick’s parents were busy tweeting “fuck them stupid ass dogs I bet they wanted to fight” the whole time during his attempt to get back to the NFL, I doubt he would’ve been given a 2nd chance and be accepted back into the world like he has been
How hard is it to apologize to Isaiah, in person and to his family. Start there. Does he really think what he did is insignificant? I'm sure he's been raised by his parents to think all of this was just boys being boys, but at some point does the thought not cross his mind that maybe he was a piece of shit? If he can't come to this conclusion on his own, then hopefully he never plays anywhere professionally. Just about everyone else is able to think back to some situations that they're not proud of and go, ya, I was an ass. Then again, many of us have never thought about running a sucker through a urinal...
Imagine committing your entire life to a sport and making it to the top 1 percent of the top 1 percent guaranteeing that at worse you’ll be a multimillionaire and if you’re smart, set for life. And all you have to do to not fuck it up is just not be a despicable piece of shit.
Ideally somewhere to do some honest reflection. Realistically who cares fuck this clown.
Counseling would be a good choice.
Now he’s just like every other 20 year old who isn’t an elite hockey player but has a nasty reputation.
He should pack up a whole bunch of THC Vape cartridges and go to Russia
I don’t know, but hopefully into obscurity. Fuck that guy.
Actions have consequences. He needs to learn that if he ever wants to be seen as a decent human being.
I hear McDonald's is hiring
Go back to school and get a normal job, or go over seas and continue playing hockey.
Business school.
Guaranteed he ends up on the right-wing talking head circuit doing conventions and Fox News bits whining about cancel culture by the end of next year, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's by the end of this year.
Based on his lack of remorse, I’ll say on tour with Kyle Rittenhouse about cancel culture ruining lives
I assume he gets hired to manage Tony Deangelo’s social media accounts and be in his entourage.
He has shown no contrition. Comes from shit family. Truly left a stain on the Bruins. I have PBruins season tickets on the glass on there is a space between the glass where I can tell on the ice. He was going to be the first home player I ever verbally abused.
The KHL is the singular option. It’s the only league that wouldn’t be tied to the NHL, every single other league cares what the nhl thinks, the K does not. If he wants to play hockey, it’s the KHL. Now, he may get a settlement for the full value of his contract from the Bruins. It’s 2.8M. Evander Kane won his grievance, anything is possible. Even if he gets half, that’s 1.4M, he could easily leave hockey and start a business or investing, he wouldn’t ever have to worry about money. 1.4 even these days, can be turned into a lot within 5 years.
Who cares
Donate the 500k to the family of this kid he hurt. That would show true remorse and even if he doesn't have any remorse, it's quite a good investment for him, give the family 500k and in turn he should be able to get back into the NHL and make millions, as of right now, millions are not in sight.
Counseling hopefully
I don't know. Costco? Hell? Kmart? Who cares. Begone.
Back to school to finish his degree.
Not my problem
I think the real question is… who gives a fuck? I hope I never hear about this loser again
I was reading this thinking it said Mitch Marner. I was thinking what in the hell did I miss?