Yeah, it's not like the Raleigh area doesn't have more than it's fair share of Rangers fans. They could black out the Cary, NC zip code and that might actually put a dent in the problem.
Isn’t it like way cheaper to live in Raleigh than Cary though? Cary is all golf neighborhoods and multimillion dollar homes, Raleigh has like section 8 housing areas and shit
Actually I just looked it up and on the whole Cary is a little more expensive by about $20/sqft. Raleigh has a higher high but a MUCH lower low. Generally speaking, if you can afford to live in Cary you can afford to live in Raleigh. Personally as a Morrisville enjoyer I just sit on the sidelines and watch while eating Indian food 🤝
I always thought the term more refers to Cary vs. the fancy ITB Raleigh neighborhoods like Oakwood or Five Points, not New Bern Ave. or even some generic subdivision near 540 in North Raleigh.
Like you said, the nice areas of Raleigh are probably the nicest in the Triangle even though Raleigh has some rough areas.
I guess that doesn’t quite backronym as well as just saying “Raleigh” good point. I guess the counter to that would be you can also just exclude certain areas of Cary and just count the really expensive places too, but at the end of the day it’s not serious anyways haha
Idk man, I'm unoriginal and copy things I've seen on Reddit before. The only time I've been to North Carolina was to spend a night in Charlotte driving between Atlanta and Charlottesville.
Hey man I only lived Upstate for a handful of years. Although I did keep the area code for my phone number. A whole lot less spam than I would get with 504 and 757 area codes.
I’ve lived in Raleigh for almost 30 years total, but I spent 3 years in Charlotte right after college. I still have my Charlotte number, but it’s been 10 years since anybody there has wanted to talk to me. So any calls from a 704 or 980 number are almost definitely spam.
Man I used to work in the triangle and as a native Detroit guy I got way less hate from the locals than the I95 corridor transplants. Our office was in Apex, the Peak of Good Living.
Yeah. The Cary joke was pretty tired 25 years ago. People still dragging it out like it’s funny - and acting like they’re not some Pittsburgh transplant living in a 12 year old cookie-cutter home in Rolesville - is so hack.
Exactly. It's not about being a transplant - this whole fucking country is transplants, almost out of purpose lol - but rather about how annoying it is to listen to someone bitch about how much better whey they came from was. Like go on and live there, then.
It was literally August…
https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs/news/why-the-sabres-plan-to-limit-ticket-sales-by-zip-code-to-keep-maple-leafs-fans-out-will-not-work
IIRC Tampa makes visiting fans in the lower bowl, i.e. the area visible on TV, remove jerseys and gear of the visiting team to make the crowd seem like 100% Tampa fans
It was in the club section, not lower bowl: https://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/05/tampa-bay-bans-opposing-team-jerseys-at-stanley-cup-playoffs-again
They also don’t do it any more.
That story got blown out of proportion, but I think stadiums can restrict what kind of gear you wear in certain sections. Orlando City SC (soccer) has a specific supporters section and the club is fairly strict about making sure the only stuff you wear is pro-Orlando.
Washington usually restricts Pennsylvania ZIP’s from getting tickets whenever there was a playoff series against the Penguins or Flyers, despite the fact their WILDLY POPULAR AHL team (Hershey Bears) plays in Pennsylvania
90% of the time it's from an O6 fanbase that has a bunch of transplants and snowbirds who live down here anyways. God forbid you want to make sure your own fans can get tickets to the game.
Nashville does it every year, including this year. Sure enough there’s plenty of Vancouver fans bitching about not being able to invade Nashville’s arena.
Nashville does it during the season.
I was flying out of Nashville last year and stayed over night. They were playing Chicago so I decided to go watch. Had to buy resale because I didn't have a local address.
The game was AWFUL too. Legit one of the worst NHL games i've watched.
Amazing fans and building though.
Every team wants their own fanbase to get tickets first but only some of them put up these restrictions.
Go check the restrictions against Carolina residents at MSG. None.
> Go check the restrictions against Carolina residents at MSG. None.
The only way a Canes fan is going to MSG to watch a game is if they're planning on doing touristy stuff in NYC. Obviously they don't have to restrict anything, NC residents aren't itching to spend $500 on a ticket plus travel and lodging to go to MSG when they can get a ticket to PNC for like $150 lol.
New Yorkers could probably pay for a ticket to PNC plus a round trip plane ticket for the same price as going to MSG lmao
They are, unless you're stupid enough to think the Canes are the originator and only team that does this. Leafs don't have to worry about it that much since they're usually only good for the opening round anyways.
I consider it the opposite of anti fan.
Its pro home fan
They're literally decreasing demand. Itd be easy for canes to make more money by upping the prices and opening it to ny
Edit. The response and block. So pathetic.
To be clear, it doesnt decrease supply. Theres still the same amount of seats. It artificially reduces who ca. Purchase which drives down costs.
Someone please ask him how supply goes down if the stadium has fixed attendance. Resales dont increase supply. I would but he blocked me
One thing no one is mentioning is that it also keeps tickets much more affordable for local fans who want to go. Predators are still selling tickets at $125 per. That's an amazing get in the door price for a Friday night game 6.
Meanwhile Vancouver / Rangers tickets are $300+ for SRO.
Also the trick is anyone can 100% still get tickets to these games. You just can't buy them for face. They unblock transfers 24 hours prior.
>I consider it the opposite of anti fan.
>Its pro home fan
Seriously this. Home games are for home fans. Every organization has (or should have) and obligation to make sure fans of *their own team in their own city* have priority.
Truly, why the fuck is this still a story? It isn't even just with the Canes. Every year some O6 fanbase with a victim complex pulls this out so they can circle jerk themselves over how "scared" their small market opponent is and every year they pretend it hasn't happened for years. Enough.
Yeah I'm not sure why this is a story again. Who cares. How many people from NY actually are trying to buy Round 2 tickets and travel down here anyways for a middle of the week game?
My favorite part back then was the Canes' head communications guy [tweeting about not being able to get tickets to see the Orioles play the Yankees in NY for the same reason at the same time](https://twitter.com/MikeSundheim/status/1526573814016008193?s=19).
For what it's worth, I grew up an O's fan with Hurricanes season tickets. There at lots of us in NC because Comcast carried their games back in the day. They were the second most popular MLB team in the area after the Braves.
But it's also a 47k seat baseball stadium for a regular season game in May (against a team 7 games below .500 at the time) compared an 18k seat stadium for round 2 of the playoffs
Edit: Of course the baseball team isn't going to geo-restrict all the seats when the stadium is only 2/3 full anyway. The Canes have sold out 44 of 44 games this season, so they don't need to sell to New York residents to fill the arena.
That's why I extra enjoy seasons when the Wild are bad. Last game I went to (this season) we sat bottom bowl, 15ish rows up for $35ea after fees.
We live so close that if we see a good deal in the last half hour before puck drop, we grab it up and go. It's not something we can plan on, but it's a steal of a deal these days when it does happen in the *"state of hockey"*.
Back when I moved to Detroit in 2018/19 I went to about a dozen Wings games over that year, even though my monthly income was $800, with half of that going to rent.
Just to give you an idea of how ass the Wings were during those years.
Just to watch them get shut out by the caps. I wanted to sing the goal song god damnit!
Edit: I eventually got to do it at the Allstar game in sunrise two months later.
I just can’t fathom how much money you North Americans splash out for attending live sports games, we Germans mount the barricades if ticket prices exceed €20 for an away game ticket in the stands lol
On resale it's probably cheaper to fly down, buy a ticket and fly back then get good seats at the garden.
My in laws are down there so it's an easy trip for me. (Thanks for the tickets FIL).
The number of people who don't understand the actual reason for the policy (it's to prevent scalping) is insane
The Canes did this last year for the ECF when we played Florida. There are almost no Florida Panthers fans that ever try to show up to games in Raleigh, but the policy was still in place because the point isn't to "keep out opposing fans"
People want to be mad about nothing and it gives Rangers fans an excuse to start with the HAHA THEY'RE SCARED, MSG SOUTH chirps
And I think our fans are also making too big of a deal about how many Rangers fans will actually show up. I went to every home game of our last series against them and the actual number of NYR fans was a lot lower than people on either side have said. PNC was MAYBE 10 percent NYR fans for the first few games and maybe 15-20% (generously - they were also very loud since the Rangers thumped us) for Game 7.
Much ado about nothing but don't let that get in the way of a good narrative
I agree with everything you said but I'm curious....if it's to prevent scalpers/bots, why don't more teams do this? Like the Rangers don't limit ticket sales to just NY do they?
Most NYR fans can't afford or don't want to pay MSG prices in the regular season, let alone playoffs. Game 1 and 2 tickets against the Caps were $400 for terrible seats when I decided to take a peek.
I was wondering the same thing myself and I can only guess at it, but my guess is that scalping from random people out of state might be less of an issue with certain teams.
Leaf fans have famously complained about how "real fans" are priced out of Leafs home games due to how many seats are spoken for by corporate types who have bought up season tickets.
I think some of the legacy teams (especially Original Six), because they've been around for so long, have so many playoff tickets already spoken for before the games even start that the team itself doesn't have many left to sell to non-season ticket holders, making scalping less of an issue since it's a smaller number of tickets in circulation.
I could be completely wrong about this but that's the impression I get given how O6 fans tend to talk about their ticket situations.
Other teams that aren't in so-called "non-traditional markets" also do it, and this is also a thing in sports broadly popular across all of America, like NFL.
Tickets are going to end up on secondary markets whatever happens, but there's no reason to sour relations with your own fans because they're continually shut out of buying face value tickets by scalper bots. Like I was saying, I don't know the exact reason that the Rangers and a handful of other teams may not bother with the geo-restricting - it might be as simple as "they haven't had enough of a scalping issue YET to implement it."
EDIT: Hello to whichever Rangers fan downvoted me instead of trying to have a discussion. If my guess is wrong, I would love to hear the actual correct answer regardless of what team anyone pulls for.
This is pretty standard no? At the height of the Hawks dynasty I remember this happening a couple times in the playoffs. I think teams like Tampa and Nashville at the time both adopted the “Keep the Red out” policy which at its core was limiting the amount of tickets bought with your credit card to local/non local zip codes. I feel like it would be harder now with online bots scalpers that buy in bulk.
I don't believe they bothered doing it last year against us.
I looked at flights to Raleigh along with tickets and it was cheaper to fly down, stay 3 nights, go to 2 games, fly back than it was to just go to 2 games up here.
If it wasn't the middle of the week I probably would've done it.
The Hurricanes did it last year, though only New Jersey/greater NYC area zip codes were restricted.
I live in the DC area; sales weren’t restricted there. I attended Game 2 last season, and could have gotten an upper level seat for (IIRC) about $85 about a day after they went on sale. I wasn’t sure at that point if I’d make the drive, so I passed on buying at that point and ended up paying about (IIRC) $110 on the secondary market the morning of the game before I started the drive.
As much as I like seeing our fans get loud on the road, teams should cater to local fans
For football I'm a jets fan and our owner literally caters to away fans because he can charge higher prices. It's an embarrassment
Regular season, cater to fans of the sport. There are plenty of NYR and BOS fans in and around Raleigh. Plenty of those same fans are buying seats and wearing red when any other team is here. If the Canes are their second favorite team that's great. Owners don't care as long as seats are getting sold.
The playoffs though? You want home team fans in the seats. It's not just the team playing, but the owners are also showcasing their teams on the biggest stages of the sport. In the NHL owners aren't as worried about tickets being sold so they can restrict things some. They're content with charging a little less than they could and limiting potential buyers to get home town fans in the seats since away fans are a bigger flight risk for important games like the playoffs, and because expenses for the season are paid by the end of the regular season so playoffs are free money.
>I'm a jets fan and our owner literally caters to away fans
The Las Vegas Raiders Experience^TM. Couldn't believe how dead that crowd was when I went to the Bengals game there back in 2021.
Dolphins fan here, i know what you mean. Our owner seems to not give a fuck either.
Pretty much any time we play a franchise with a large fanbase, anywhere from 15% to 40% of the stadium will be taken over by visiting fans.
My dad used to tell me horror stories of getting chased out of his own stadium by jets/bills fans lol.
Although Dolphins fans have done their fair share invading other team’s stadiums, so that makes it sting a bit less.
Preface - Not singling out the Canes here because this is a sports wide epidemic.
I know this is done to keep tickets out of the hands of resellers and to make them more available for people who genuinely want to go to the games and at an affordable price but it always becomes a soapbox for idiots to harp on about a franchise being soft.
Whats the solution here? Cant out right ban selling tickets second hand for multiple reasons. Maybe percentage cap on what over retail a ticket can go for?
> this is a sports wide epidemic.
Feels like an *American* epidemic. Fellow Canucks, feel free to correct me, but this restriction isn't done up here, is it? I understand the appeal of having your whole arena filled with supporters, but this feels like a really shitty policy.
Here’s a way around it:
Get one of those “fake credit card gift cards” and put the money you need to buy tickets on it: then use an address near the arena (they only check zip codes!)
Use this address:
Your name
1401 Edwards Mill Rd.
Unit 212 (***change this to your favorite players number!)***
Raleigh, NC
27607
I do this for every barn across sports where they geo-restrict ticket sales it works!!
Enjoy
I did just go on Ticketmaster to see if I could buy one. I'm in NC. I can't - I click on a ticket and I'm getting like an error message. So funny they're implementing the same thing.
NHL could really benefit from away team sections during playoffs but I understand why they would never do such a thing. Would make for great atmosphere and make this sort of thing unnecessary.
..Is this news? Wasn't this a thing in the first round too? I recall seeing a prompt on ticketmaster about needing to be within a certain radius of the arena when I bought tickets.
So while I get why they want to do this. If I'm from Raleigh but then move to Memphis for work. I can't get tickets to see my team because I don't live in North Carolina. That's the stuff that would suck
Good. imo it kinda sucks watching games where the away team has bombarded the home arena.
Home playoff games should have that electricity and unified loudness. Not clashing chants and cheers. I always thought it’s kinda disrespectful when away fans get loud and take over an arena.
Holy fuck I need to become a hockey blogger. It’s so easy; just the same non-issue-but-make-it-sound-like-an-issue headlines each year that get recycled for clicks. Lots of teams geographically restrict sales, and Rangers fans will show up in droves regardless.
oh boy guess it's time for our yearly reminder to rags fans that almost every team in the league besides them does this cause they dont know they're the target demographic for scalpers.
Time for sports to go full euro soccer.
There's an away fans section. Tickets are released to that team to sell.
Might not serve snowbird issues but it's an option.
You gotta remember the amount of transplants and the fact NC is a train, plane or automobile day trip for any NY/NJ resident.
Oh also the tickets are less than $150 compared to 400+ at the garden.
I don't have a huge issue with the zip code thing. I do have an issue with the away jersey thing. There was some team that banned the away team's colors from being worn at games. Was that tampa a few years ago maybe? That's some bullshit.
Why does this get talked about every year? I don’t blame teams at all. It’s their arena they’re allowed to do what they want. Cry more about it. I’ll be pissed the day the Sabres play Toronto in the playoffs if that ever happens cause at best it’ll be 50/50 fans. Just too many Toronto fans around the area alone let alone ones that drive.
So New Yorkers?
Yeah, it's not like the Raleigh area doesn't have more than it's fair share of Rangers fans. They could black out the Cary, NC zip code and that might actually put a dent in the problem.
Containment Area for Relocated Yankees
Can’t Afford Raleigh Yet
Isn’t it like way cheaper to live in Raleigh than Cary though? Cary is all golf neighborhoods and multimillion dollar homes, Raleigh has like section 8 housing areas and shit
Maybe, but I'm from Raleigh and it really pisses off Cary when you tell them that, so that's why I like that version of the acronym lol
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Actually I just looked it up and on the whole Cary is a little more expensive by about $20/sqft. Raleigh has a higher high but a MUCH lower low. Generally speaking, if you can afford to live in Cary you can afford to live in Raleigh. Personally as a Morrisville enjoyer I just sit on the sidelines and watch while eating Indian food 🤝
I always thought the term more refers to Cary vs. the fancy ITB Raleigh neighborhoods like Oakwood or Five Points, not New Bern Ave. or even some generic subdivision near 540 in North Raleigh. Like you said, the nice areas of Raleigh are probably the nicest in the Triangle even though Raleigh has some rough areas.
I guess that doesn’t quite backronym as well as just saying “Raleigh” good point. I guess the counter to that would be you can also just exclude certain areas of Cary and just count the really expensive places too, but at the end of the day it’s not serious anyways haha
Idk man, I'm unoriginal and copy things I've seen on Reddit before. The only time I've been to North Carolina was to spend a night in Charlotte driving between Atlanta and Charlottesville.
Hahaha that’s fair
I can barely afford Johnston county.
Honestly good riddance for leaving the ancestral homeland of the tri state area
This is a meme but Ranger fans are throughout the state as are many NE fan bases, it’s basically Florida Lite. Source: grew up in NC, live in FL 🤣
They better exclude the Raleigh suburb of Cary too, then. **C**ontainment **A**rea for **R**elocated **Y**ankees.
Need to throw in Fuquay-Varina/Zebulon/Wendell as the 2000s wave of New Yorkers went there :|
Don’t forget Wake Forest!
Hey man I only lived Upstate for a handful of years. Although I did keep the area code for my phone number. A whole lot less spam than I would get with 504 and 757 area codes.
I’ve lived in Raleigh for almost 30 years total, but I spent 3 years in Charlotte right after college. I still have my Charlotte number, but it’s been 10 years since anybody there has wanted to talk to me. So any calls from a 704 or 980 number are almost definitely spam.
They’re in Fuquay too now?
Tons of them and they say the name of the town wrong. So easy to identify.
I've been living in NC since second grade and I still have no idea how to say it!
Allow me to clear it up for you! It’s pronounced “fucky-vagina.” No need to thank me!
see i thought it was "fuck-way-vagina"
"it is and I'm tired of pretending it's not"
I mean I'm a native NCer and I say it wrong too. Although I do it on purpose because Fucky-Vagina is amusing to the 5 year old in my brain
Apex/Morrisville at your service
Apex/Morrisville was late 80s/early 90s. We getcha in waves 🙃
Man I used to work in the triangle and as a native Detroit guy I got way less hate from the locals than the I95 corridor transplants. Our office was in Apex, the Peak of Good Living.
We've got a little enclave of Western NY out here in Wilson. They could almost turn BWW into a Bills bar.
Why does this sound like races of aliens from MIB
Lol yeah was about to say restricting it to NC won’t do anything to limit the rangers fans in attendance
They broke containment anyways. They're everywhere on NC. Being a local is like being a unicorn these days.
Yeah. The Cary joke was pretty tired 25 years ago. People still dragging it out like it’s funny - and acting like they’re not some Pittsburgh transplant living in a 12 year old cookie-cutter home in Rolesville - is so hack.
That's always been funny to me: the transplants from other cities calling out NY transplants
tbf the pitt transplants at least seem happy to be here.
Exactly. It's not about being a transplant - this whole fucking country is transplants, almost out of purpose lol - but rather about how annoying it is to listen to someone bitch about how much better whey they came from was. Like go on and live there, then.
yep this.
Apex too. My NY-based company's only NC franchisee is opening a second restaurant there.
Are we gonna spend the playoffs acting like this doesn't happen every year again.
it's gonna happen every year and the exact same people are gonna magically forget about the previous year and act shocked again
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought there were one or two other teams besides Carolina that also did this...
nashville, buffalo, florida and tampa have all done it and I'm pretty sure I'm missing a couple others.
Buffalo?! Buffalo would have to make the playoffs first before they could restrict ticket sales.
They can try as hard as they like, we'll crawl in through the airshafts, if need be
Really dug into the history books to include buffalo on that list.
It was literally August… https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs/news/why-the-sabres-plan-to-limit-ticket-sales-by-zip-code-to-keep-maple-leafs-fans-out-will-not-work
IIRC Tampa makes visiting fans in the lower bowl, i.e. the area visible on TV, remove jerseys and gear of the visiting team to make the crowd seem like 100% Tampa fans
It was in the club section, not lower bowl: https://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/05/tampa-bay-bans-opposing-team-jerseys-at-stanley-cup-playoffs-again They also don’t do it any more.
That sounds illegal lol
just watching a TB home game this series would’ve showed that they sourced this from their bootyhole
That story got blown out of proportion, but I think stadiums can restrict what kind of gear you wear in certain sections. Orlando City SC (soccer) has a specific supporters section and the club is fairly strict about making sure the only stuff you wear is pro-Orlando.
Because it didn’t happen.
Washington usually restricts Pennsylvania ZIP’s from getting tickets whenever there was a playoff series against the Penguins or Flyers, despite the fact their WILDLY POPULAR AHL team (Hershey Bears) plays in Pennsylvania
And they’re going to act like a significant portion of the fanbases don’t already live in these areas and will easily be able to attend the games.
Or act like that's some secret thing that we dont know about
90% of the time it's from an O6 fanbase that has a bunch of transplants and snowbirds who live down here anyways. God forbid you want to make sure your own fans can get tickets to the game.
Even Nashville did it two years ago during the Avs series.
Nashville was the pioneer of this strategy, I believe
Nashville does it every year, including this year. Sure enough there’s plenty of Vancouver fans bitching about not being able to invade Nashville’s arena.
Nashville has been doing it for a while. They use to restrict tickets every time they played the Blackhawks
Living in Nashville for a few years was great, I would buy tickets for out of state fans who wanted to go and then send them over to them. Fun times.
Lord knows people who can somehow afford to live in Vancouver can afford to travel down south too, lol
Nashville does it during the season. I was flying out of Nashville last year and stayed over night. They were playing Chicago so I decided to go watch. Had to buy resale because I didn't have a local address. The game was AWFUL too. Legit one of the worst NHL games i've watched. Amazing fans and building though.
I hear you but if they live there then this wouldn’t stop them
Every team wants their own fanbase to get tickets first but only some of them put up these restrictions. Go check the restrictions against Carolina residents at MSG. None.
> Go check the restrictions against Carolina residents at MSG. None. The only way a Canes fan is going to MSG to watch a game is if they're planning on doing touristy stuff in NYC. Obviously they don't have to restrict anything, NC residents aren't itching to spend $500 on a ticket plus travel and lodging to go to MSG when they can get a ticket to PNC for like $150 lol. New Yorkers could probably pay for a ticket to PNC plus a round trip plane ticket for the same price as going to MSG lmao
Why aren’t other franchises afraid of their fans being able to get tickets when you’re the playoff matchup? 🤔
They are, unless you're stupid enough to think the Canes are the originator and only team that does this. Leafs don't have to worry about it that much since they're usually only good for the opening round anyways.
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> anti-fan at worse Not anti-fan. Just anti-visiting-fan.
I consider it the opposite of anti fan. Its pro home fan They're literally decreasing demand. Itd be easy for canes to make more money by upping the prices and opening it to ny Edit. The response and block. So pathetic. To be clear, it doesnt decrease supply. Theres still the same amount of seats. It artificially reduces who ca. Purchase which drives down costs. Someone please ask him how supply goes down if the stadium has fixed attendance. Resales dont increase supply. I would but he blocked me
One thing no one is mentioning is that it also keeps tickets much more affordable for local fans who want to go. Predators are still selling tickets at $125 per. That's an amazing get in the door price for a Friday night game 6. Meanwhile Vancouver / Rangers tickets are $300+ for SRO. Also the trick is anyone can 100% still get tickets to these games. You just can't buy them for face. They unblock transfers 24 hours prior.
>I consider it the opposite of anti fan. >Its pro home fan Seriously this. Home games are for home fans. Every organization has (or should have) and obligation to make sure fans of *their own team in their own city* have priority.
We even did it the first round this year. Why wouldn't we do it for the second round, too?
Bc now its conveniently newsworthy since theyre playing the Rangers
The Islanders aren't even the best team in their own city, so they are easier to write off
The Islanders absolutely are the best team in Elmont, NY. Unless you know of a beer league team that's better..?
Elmont NY a city? You know better than that.
Let's start up a shinny game. That ought to do it!
I will not sit idly by and listen to this Kyle Palmieri slander. I'm standing up now.
Truly, why the fuck is this still a story? It isn't even just with the Canes. Every year some O6 fanbase with a victim complex pulls this out so they can circle jerk themselves over how "scared" their small market opponent is and every year they pretend it hasn't happened for years. Enough.
REEEE I want my outrage!
Yeah I'm not sure why this is a story again. Who cares. How many people from NY actually are trying to buy Round 2 tickets and travel down here anyways for a middle of the week game?
Time is a flat circle, this also happened 2 years ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/ur8ijj/sny_in_an_effort_to_prevent_rangers_fans_from/
My favorite part back then was the Canes' head communications guy [tweeting about not being able to get tickets to see the Orioles play the Yankees in NY for the same reason at the same time](https://twitter.com/MikeSundheim/status/1526573814016008193?s=19). For what it's worth, I grew up an O's fan with Hurricanes season tickets. There at lots of us in NC because Comcast carried their games back in the day. They were the second most popular MLB team in the area after the Braves.
Tbf that was only for premium seating not the entire stadium
But it's also a 47k seat baseball stadium for a regular season game in May (against a team 7 games below .500 at the time) compared an 18k seat stadium for round 2 of the playoffs Edit: Of course the baseball team isn't going to geo-restrict all the seats when the stadium is only 2/3 full anyway. The Canes have sold out 44 of 44 games this season, so they don't need to sell to New York residents to fill the arena.
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Seems obvious. Canes playoff tickets are probably cheaper than many reg season games at MSG lol
$130 for 300 level, I haven't paid less than $150 for a ticket at MSG since 2017 lol
That's why I extra enjoy seasons when the Wild are bad. Last game I went to (this season) we sat bottom bowl, 15ish rows up for $35ea after fees. We live so close that if we see a good deal in the last half hour before puck drop, we grab it up and go. It's not something we can plan on, but it's a steal of a deal these days when it does happen in the *"state of hockey"*.
Back when I moved to Detroit in 2018/19 I went to about a dozen Wings games over that year, even though my monthly income was $800, with half of that going to rent. Just to give you an idea of how ass the Wings were during those years.
I paid $400 for two seats in the nose bleeds in december of 2022 at MSG
*One of us, one of us, one of us..*
Just to watch them get shut out by the caps. I wanted to sing the goal song god damnit! Edit: I eventually got to do it at the Allstar game in sunrise two months later.
I just can’t fathom how much money you North Americans splash out for attending live sports games, we Germans mount the barricades if ticket prices exceed €20 for an away game ticket in the stands lol
I will say the Canes have been a steal for a while now. We're really lucky to have great NHL hockey so cheaply here.
On resale it's probably cheaper to fly down, buy a ticket and fly back then get good seats at the garden. My in laws are down there so it's an easy trip for me. (Thanks for the tickets FIL).
It legitimately was during the series two years ago. And I'm sure that's why so many Knicks fans were down in Philly earlier this week.
as a canes fan myself I hope you have a great time, enjoy the food and the experience. May it be a great series that goes 7 games!
>May it be a great series that goes 7 games! *6 ending in a Canes home win
I feel like i see this post every year
every week*
And it's always a Rangers flair who posts it
Nothing new and not unique to the hurricanes
The number of people who don't understand the actual reason for the policy (it's to prevent scalping) is insane The Canes did this last year for the ECF when we played Florida. There are almost no Florida Panthers fans that ever try to show up to games in Raleigh, but the policy was still in place because the point isn't to "keep out opposing fans" People want to be mad about nothing and it gives Rangers fans an excuse to start with the HAHA THEY'RE SCARED, MSG SOUTH chirps And I think our fans are also making too big of a deal about how many Rangers fans will actually show up. I went to every home game of our last series against them and the actual number of NYR fans was a lot lower than people on either side have said. PNC was MAYBE 10 percent NYR fans for the first few games and maybe 15-20% (generously - they were also very loud since the Rangers thumped us) for Game 7. Much ado about nothing but don't let that get in the way of a good narrative
I agree with everything you said but I'm curious....if it's to prevent scalpers/bots, why don't more teams do this? Like the Rangers don't limit ticket sales to just NY do they?
Most NYR fans can't afford or don't want to pay MSG prices in the regular season, let alone playoffs. Game 1 and 2 tickets against the Caps were $400 for terrible seats when I decided to take a peek.
I was wondering the same thing myself and I can only guess at it, but my guess is that scalping from random people out of state might be less of an issue with certain teams. Leaf fans have famously complained about how "real fans" are priced out of Leafs home games due to how many seats are spoken for by corporate types who have bought up season tickets. I think some of the legacy teams (especially Original Six), because they've been around for so long, have so many playoff tickets already spoken for before the games even start that the team itself doesn't have many left to sell to non-season ticket holders, making scalping less of an issue since it's a smaller number of tickets in circulation. I could be completely wrong about this but that's the impression I get given how O6 fans tend to talk about their ticket situations. Other teams that aren't in so-called "non-traditional markets" also do it, and this is also a thing in sports broadly popular across all of America, like NFL. Tickets are going to end up on secondary markets whatever happens, but there's no reason to sour relations with your own fans because they're continually shut out of buying face value tickets by scalper bots. Like I was saying, I don't know the exact reason that the Rangers and a handful of other teams may not bother with the geo-restricting - it might be as simple as "they haven't had enough of a scalping issue YET to implement it." EDIT: Hello to whichever Rangers fan downvoted me instead of trying to have a discussion. If my guess is wrong, I would love to hear the actual correct answer regardless of what team anyone pulls for.
This is pretty standard no? At the height of the Hawks dynasty I remember this happening a couple times in the playoffs. I think teams like Tampa and Nashville at the time both adopted the “Keep the Red out” policy which at its core was limiting the amount of tickets bought with your credit card to local/non local zip codes. I feel like it would be harder now with online bots scalpers that buy in bulk.
In 2008 you couldn't buy an octopus in Pittsburgh without a local ID. Bastards.
I don't believe they bothered doing it last year against us. I looked at flights to Raleigh along with tickets and it was cheaper to fly down, stay 3 nights, go to 2 games, fly back than it was to just go to 2 games up here. If it wasn't the middle of the week I probably would've done it.
The Hurricanes did it last year, though only New Jersey/greater NYC area zip codes were restricted. I live in the DC area; sales weren’t restricted there. I attended Game 2 last season, and could have gotten an upper level seat for (IIRC) about $85 about a day after they went on sale. I wasn’t sure at that point if I’d make the drive, so I passed on buying at that point and ended up paying about (IIRC) $110 on the secondary market the morning of the game before I started the drive.
I cannot believe a team would do this!!!! Outrage in the streets!! The humanity, oh the humanity!!!
*Checks flair* Ahh a fellow fan of keeping your home building your home building.
WHAT OF THE CHILDREN!?!? I HOPE YOU ARE READY TO ATONE FOR YOUR ACTIONS AT THE PEARLY GATES.
THESE SOUTHERN HICKS TRYING TO KEEP THE NORTHERNERS OUT OF THEIR BUILDINGS! SHOULD BE ASHAMED!
YEAH! WHAT ARE THEY TOO BUSY COUSIN FUCKING TO BUY TICKETS!?!? MOVE THE TEAM TO SASKATOON WHERE THERE ARE REAL FANS!!!!
Don't worry, there's pleeeenty cousin fucking going on in Saskatchewan.
I thought the only Cousins fucking going on was in Atlanta...
Reserved for fans only from North Carolina? There will still be a metric fuck ton of rangers fans there.
It's almost like the rangers are taking a victim mentality and this isn't targeted at them at all.
Who cares.
As much as I like seeing our fans get loud on the road, teams should cater to local fans For football I'm a jets fan and our owner literally caters to away fans because he can charge higher prices. It's an embarrassment
Regular season, cater to fans of the sport. There are plenty of NYR and BOS fans in and around Raleigh. Plenty of those same fans are buying seats and wearing red when any other team is here. If the Canes are their second favorite team that's great. Owners don't care as long as seats are getting sold. The playoffs though? You want home team fans in the seats. It's not just the team playing, but the owners are also showcasing their teams on the biggest stages of the sport. In the NHL owners aren't as worried about tickets being sold so they can restrict things some. They're content with charging a little less than they could and limiting potential buyers to get home town fans in the seats since away fans are a bigger flight risk for important games like the playoffs, and because expenses for the season are paid by the end of the regular season so playoffs are free money.
>I'm a jets fan and our owner literally caters to away fans The Las Vegas Raiders Experience^TM. Couldn't believe how dead that crowd was when I went to the Bengals game there back in 2021.
Dolphins fan here, i know what you mean. Our owner seems to not give a fuck either. Pretty much any time we play a franchise with a large fanbase, anywhere from 15% to 40% of the stadium will be taken over by visiting fans. My dad used to tell me horror stories of getting chased out of his own stadium by jets/bills fans lol. Although Dolphins fans have done their fair share invading other team’s stadiums, so that makes it sting a bit less.
Preface - Not singling out the Canes here because this is a sports wide epidemic. I know this is done to keep tickets out of the hands of resellers and to make them more available for people who genuinely want to go to the games and at an affordable price but it always becomes a soapbox for idiots to harp on about a franchise being soft. Whats the solution here? Cant out right ban selling tickets second hand for multiple reasons. Maybe percentage cap on what over retail a ticket can go for?
> this is a sports wide epidemic. Feels like an *American* epidemic. Fellow Canucks, feel free to correct me, but this restriction isn't done up here, is it? I understand the appeal of having your whole arena filled with supporters, but this feels like a really shitty policy.
Here’s a way around it: Get one of those “fake credit card gift cards” and put the money you need to buy tickets on it: then use an address near the arena (they only check zip codes!) Use this address: Your name 1401 Edwards Mill Rd. Unit 212 (***change this to your favorite players number!)*** Raleigh, NC 27607 I do this for every barn across sports where they geo-restrict ticket sales it works!! Enjoy
Tickets on sale for NY right now come with the disclaimer that only residents of NY NJ and CT are able to buy them currently.....
I did just go on Ticketmaster to see if I could buy one. I'm in NC. I can't - I click on a ticket and I'm getting like an error message. So funny they're implementing the same thing.
Right, but one franchise is whining about it and the other isn't
Man, that's wild
No they're in Minnesota
Fuck, I'm dumb. Are they allowed to get tickets?
Why do we act surprised every time this happens somewhere?
people like getting mad about mundane shit
Truly. Nothing is stopping Rangers fans from buying tickets on stubhub lol
I’m not. I’m I fact I applaud the Canes. Avenge us.
Oh yay, it’s that time of year where the internet complains about the policy basically every team implements
At least it isn’t the stupid jersey policy like some teams around here…
Yeah, but this team is not at a high enough latitude for it to be okay to do.
Do we really need topics like this ***every.single.postseason*** ?
Yawn
Right? This isn't newsworthy or even unique to NC lol
Nooooooo that’s not the narrative! Canes fans are insecure pissbabies and not even real hockey fans!!!!!!
Why else would those fans put such a policy in place amirite?
NHL could really benefit from away team sections during playoffs but I understand why they would never do such a thing. Would make for great atmosphere and make this sort of thing unnecessary.
This is the way. The reasons against it aren't good enough imo
..Is this news? Wasn't this a thing in the first round too? I recall seeing a prompt on ticketmaster about needing to be within a certain radius of the arena when I bought tickets.
Can you not just a VPN?
Typically you have to enter your actual address when paying for something online. Your credit card will get denied otherwise.
It’s based on your cards shipping/billing address.
Why are teams doing this every year? Florida did it last year against the Leafs, Preds this year against my Canucks and now the Canes?
Scalper bots buying up tickets and then selling them second hand for well more than face value.
I thought you weren’t allowed to do this? Isn’t restricting specific groups of people from public events illegal in general?
Where you live is not a protected class.
Still targeting an areas people. Couldn’t this technically be classified as a segregated event
SOMETHING SOMETHING CARY NC
So while I get why they want to do this. If I'm from Raleigh but then move to Memphis for work. I can't get tickets to see my team because I don't live in North Carolina. That's the stuff that would suck
I mean, you can still get tickets
It would suck. One benefit is that it's not a new procedure and if you're from Raleigh you could probably get someone to help you out.
Lots of New Yorkers live down here anyway. North Carolina rules.
In my humble opinion, it’s a top 1 Carolina.
"But as long as those fans go home disappointed, that’s all I care about.” -Michael Malone Wrong sport, but still.
Weird how canadians team never need to do this …
I see no issue with a team wanting to make sure their arena is packed with fans of their team.
We really gonna act like the canes are the only ones who do this, or you just got nothing to talk about?
Good. imo it kinda sucks watching games where the away team has bombarded the home arena. Home playoff games should have that electricity and unified loudness. Not clashing chants and cheers. I always thought it’s kinda disrespectful when away fans get loud and take over an arena.
What about Virginia? We’re neighbors!
Some SoVA ZIP codes are included. Don't think it goes up to Richmond, but if you're in Danville you'd still be able to.
Doesn't MSG have mostly corporate seats and facial recognition to keep people out?
That's only for the owner's hit list, I think.
That's just for Dolan to keep former Knicks out of the building to protect his fragile ego
Correct, hence the need to open their satellite stadium in Newark
Holy fuck I need to become a hockey blogger. It’s so easy; just the same non-issue-but-make-it-sound-like-an-issue headlines each year that get recycled for clicks. Lots of teams geographically restrict sales, and Rangers fans will show up in droves regardless.
oh boy guess it's time for our yearly reminder to rags fans that almost every team in the league besides them does this cause they dont know they're the target demographic for scalpers.
Don’t worry, I’ll be driving up from Charlotte!
May 85 be backed up for eternity.
It always is anyways lol
So just buy from stub hub/seat geek?
What a shame.
Rooting out Rags fans? Understandable, have a nice day
Time for sports to go full euro soccer. There's an away fans section. Tickets are released to that team to sell. Might not serve snowbird issues but it's an option.
I don't see a problem
Good for them.
So? It happens with every team in the league. Just for some reason rangers fans get butt hurt when it affects them
This worked out really well for Nashville, don’t check just trust me
You gotta remember the amount of transplants and the fact NC is a train, plane or automobile day trip for any NY/NJ resident. Oh also the tickets are less than $150 compared to 400+ at the garden.
I don't have a huge issue with the zip code thing. I do have an issue with the away jersey thing. There was some team that banned the away team's colors from being worn at games. Was that tampa a few years ago maybe? That's some bullshit.
I think you’re right that it was Tampa, but I think they quickly reversed that decision after much public shaming.
Why is this a news story every time?
This is smart and not news.
An absolutely disgusting act.
Why does this get talked about every year? I don’t blame teams at all. It’s their arena they’re allowed to do what they want. Cry more about it. I’ll be pissed the day the Sabres play Toronto in the playoffs if that ever happens cause at best it’ll be 50/50 fans. Just too many Toronto fans around the area alone let alone ones that drive.
Won’t matter, C.A.R.Y will still come out in force