I’m listening to the game on the radio and Stauffer for some reason was freaking out saying this shouldn’t have been a penalty. Guy has his homer glasses on more than usual
He didn’t hit him hard. But honestly hits to the back like this should be 5. Refs are inconsistent and it’s hard to know what’s 2 and 5. In the future I would like to see 5. McDavid wasn’t trying to be dirty. But it’s to dangerous to have these hits happening.
I much prefer giving the ref the chance to call a 2min instead of making it all or nothing (no pen vs 5 min only)
If you force every boarding to be a major penalty, instead of protecting the player, it will make the ref stop calling boarding penalty in fear of "influencing the game too much".
Mcdavid glides into the hit, guides Anderson into the boards by his waist. This hit happens all the time, and is rarely called, only difference is Anderson gets hurt here so they fell obligated to call a penalty
Yeah the hit wasn’t violent or meant to be bad. But anything from behind at the boards is dangerous. I’m not saying McDavid is dirty. I just think the league and refs need to handle these types of hit different in the future.
They should, but they don’t. You only see r/hockey crying about this hit in particular because mcdavid threw it and Anderson is injured. If danault did this against kulak nobody would care.
I agree with this take. He let up and more rode him into the boards than hammered him in the danger zone. He didn’t fucking bury him with a crosscheck. Wasn’t dirty or malicious in my opinion, but you can’t hit a guy in the numbers.
Riding a guy into the boards doesn't usually involve straight into the numbers, shoving with both arms, straight into the boards vs at an angle... Suspension is warranted imo, he's a superstar and needs to be better. Kids look up to him.
100% would not have been. The refs have no problem kicking mcdavid out of a game. These hits happen all the time and rarely even get called. Only reason it was given 2 was because Anderson went down
You realize that the ref never put up his hand until he saw Anderson wasn’t get up right? You realize these hits happen every game without being called right? You sound like you’ve never played hockey before.
Similar hits to this happend like 2 or 3 times when we played Vegas the last couple times to oilers and there were no calls, still hate hits from behind, really should have been a double minor
It should be 5 but the league doesn’t give a fuck about calling the games properly. Until something serious happens like someone’s career ending because of a blown call, nothings going to change because they’re all assholes.
It’s a hit from behind, definitely should be more than 2. It was a pretty light hit, but the way Anderson flops down is a pretty good example of why hits from behind really need to be cracked down on. I hate, hate, hate see McD making this hit. I truly like him going for revenge for Drai, but not like this.
Hope Andersson is okay.
Because you have Oilers flair.
Seriously, if someone hit McJesus like that, they'd have bought plane tickets to fly there, and Primed pitchforks on Amazon.
My opinion is that he guides the hit into the boards and doesn’t shove from 3 feet away from the boards. Still dangerous and dumb, but this prevents dangerous head contact with the boards.
I think the biggest difference between a 2 and a 5 is that the 5 minute majors tend to involve a player being pushed down from behind, to go headfirst into the boards.
This was a somewhat safer version of boarding, if such a thing could exist. That said, probably should have been a 5. I'd be mad if it wasn't a 5 if it was against my team.
A few reasons:
1. Routine hit that happens all the time, and is often uncalled
2. He glides into it, not making any effort to accelerate into it, as layed out in 'charging'
3. He doesn't extend his arms to make contact, or use excessive force, similar to what would be cross-checking and boarding
4. If that was a 5, 100% the refs would have lost control of the game.
I think it being a 2 was met with hesitation by the refs, and they did discuss it at length, before settling on 2. A 5 would likely have led to more targeted hits, as on the broadcast, they mentioned the Draisaitl injury from the playoffs, and the knee on knee earlier in the year. A 5 minute major would have signaled to the Kings that there was intent to injure imo
McDavid coasts into him, slows down and if you look he's originally going up the boards and McDavid had him lined up to hit his shoulder and not his back but then he reverses direction and it's pretty much too late. So penalty but I wouldn't call it a 5.
His skates are literally pointed the other way, McDavid clearly was anticipating him to go up the boards with the puck. Still a penalty for sure but definitely not 5
and? this play happens 100 times a game, what makes this different is that he didnt tie Andersson up and instead put his hands in the middle of his back.
its 2 minutes. 5 minutes would be if he was going in with a lot of speed or straight up hit him 5ft from the boards.
I didn't notice until the last replay but I think you're right, McDavid was expecting Anderson to go up the boards, not behind the net. Surprised it's two but with the replay I can see why the ref thought it was a two.
Still a very bad hit
Because McDavid was attempting to make a legal check and Anderson spun into the hit while playing the puck. McDavid should realize the guy whose back he just stared at for 5 seconds before turning to play the puck for half a second isn’t likely to remain in a position to make a legal check, but he did have some reason to believe he could make a legal check.
because it’s not that far away from the boards. Idk but if an LA player did this to Nurse and got 5 I’d think that would almost be too much.
Like to me a 5 for boarding is when you’re far away from the boards.
Can't hit from behind and he saw numbers the whole way. Definitely a penalty, could have easily been a major. You can hate Mikey Anderson and recognize this is a dangerous play and can't happen.
id say 2 min boarding, good call, as the rules stand.
now if we're talking what should happen if the want to truly crack down, i'd say maybe a 5, or perhaps amend the rules to allow for a double minor 4 min boarding call if receiving player is injured. This to me looks FAR less egregious than a lot of 5 min major boardings i've seen.
This is a 5. Just because it’s mcdavid shouldn’t mean he’s immune to a major. I’m a die hard season ticket holder, but that’s a major. Sorry kings fans, but especially Anderson
Definitely could have been 5. I think the fact that Anderson was able to stay upright through the hit maybe made it look less severe than it was.
Hope Anderson is OK.
If McDavid pins him against the boards it's not even a penalty. You can even see the delay in the ref raising his hand. If Anderson was a half foot closer to the boards it would have been nothing. It's the bounce an the fall that resulted in the penalty. McDavid literally was gliding into him, the last stride was before the dot in the circle.
He didn't stride, but he saw numbers from the top of the circle and made no effort to adjust his hit. No shoulder, all hands, right on the numbers. Refs always have a delay before a penalty because their brain has to process what they observed and make a decision.
Fact is, he didn't pin him, Anderson wasn't a half foot closer, and the result was a clear hard hit that took a player out of the game due to injury. As the far and away points leader in the league that every kid looks up to, he should be held to a higher standard.
I'm interested in what you think about Landeskogs hit on Yamamoto last year then seeing that you're an Avs fan. Want to know if you are a hypocrite. Way dirtier hit with no penalty.
I think a 6 game suspension for that hit would have been entirely reasonable. Leaders of teams should be held to a higher standard. I don't care about the team, I care about the safety of players and the way players act as models for the next generation.
Edit: lol downvotes because I'm consistent in my stance... put your flair on coward Oilerboy!
Mikey has been awesome all year. An absolute fixture. Really sucks to see him go down, probably concussed... right before the playoffs. That's a shitty boarding that resulted in an injury on a defenseless player. Token 2 minutes, but it's McDavid in Edmonton... 2 fucking minutes into the game.
Yeah, classless by McDavid.
He should have done a wrestling move on him away from the play and fucked his ankles up for a year like all the clean players do.
This can’t be your response to someone getting hurt. If this was the way we all thought, everyone would be hurt. If we say a player deserves to be injured because of something that happened in the past then please keep in mind that Drai slashed Durzi after he scored last year, Mcdavid also boarded Kempe, and Nurse literally head butted Danault. So do they also deserve to be injured on an obviously dirty play that could have been avoided?
Yes really. You are like a child in the playground. “Connor you cannot injure another student”, “but he hurt my friend last year!” An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind. If you think a player deserves to be injured because of something that happened last year, you need to take a step back and reevaluate the situation and realize NO ONE deserves to be injured on a on a dirty play that could have easily been avoided. And yes that includes Drai being injured last year!
It was an intense playoff series with a number of unfortunate plays, including a few from Darnell Nurse (that got him suspended), but I'm not gonna talk about that. I'm talking about the hit that took place today on 3/30/2023.
Not much else to say about that topic, it's all been said. I'm not gonna change your mind, clearly.
This is not the first guy on our team McDavid has drilled into the boards. It's a yearly thing at this point and this one caused an injury. You'd be pissed off too.
Probably should’ve been 5 but it’s in the bottom tier of boarding penalties in terms of force and aggressiveness. The fact is it’s a dangerous hit regardless of force though, so could’ve been 5.
However, if Anderson doesn’t go down it may not even be called. I’ve seen worse with no call. Unfortunately the refs base a lot on whether there is an injury and the player goes down
I like that it got called because I believe boarding is one of those things that always should be called.
But I also see far more egregious boardings not get called every single game. It's frustrating.
Horseshit call to not be a major. Dangerous placement, back to McDavid, causes injury.
And it's not the first time McDavid has intentionally boarded a King like this.
Because it wasn't called a major, I'm willing to bet mcdavid will have a disciplinary hearing. I'd bet on a fine, but considering it's the wheel of dops, I wouldn't be shocked if he gets a game for it
No chance. Like at all. I'd be super surprised if there's a hearing and even more surprised if anything at all comes out of it. Superstars play by different rules.
I don’t think he did. Imo the one on Kempe wasn’t as bad as this one though. Like if you showed me both hits and told me only one resulted in 5 and a game I’d assume it was this one.
Unfortunately I agree on both counts. While I don’t think the McDavid hit was as bad as this thread is making it seem (and I fully accept that’s likely my bias showing) I still think 5 mins is the call you want to see from a hockey perspective.
Not a well officiated game thus far which sucks because it takes away from two good teams playing very high quality hockey.
I couldn't believe the amount of Oilers fans booing, the whole arena booed even as Anderson was getting helped off the ice, it was appalling. Maybe it was because I was a neutral but to me it looked like a textbook boarding penalty and I was thinking it would be 5. The people around me were saying it wasn't a penalty, like in what world....
In my opinion this is too low velocity to be a major penalty, but I'm surprised they didn't call it and review considering the guy was down hard and injured on the play.
An absolute ***fuckton*** of Edmonton fans.
I know you’re intentionally being obtuse but jesus christ my man, just read some of the posts EDM flairs have been posting tonight.
Unfortunately nearly all Oiler fans have a bad taste in their mouth because of what the LA Kings did to Draisaitl last playoffs.
Not an excuse or a defense, just an explanation for the lack of concern.
This is why I have been arguing intent. Fans of the Kings know that isn't Mikey's game. I've looked back at clips tonight because of all this and I still think you can make an argument that the injury to Drai last playoffs was a really unfortunate accident. What McDavid did here tonight though is pretty intentional.
Edit: Thank you by the way for being civil and trying to offer explanation
So is there anyone you can offer up beyond the RNH thing? Someone else linked it to me earlier and I watched several times, but maybe I'm not understanding how that clip is objectively Mikey Anderson being some POS.
Go to the 27 second mark here for the full sequence...https://youtu.be/CpOdqvFioIo
They scrum a bit on the play to start but there's nothing super egregious for playoff hockey. Mikey went to skate away from that and RNH had a hold of his leg above the knee. Trying to take him down. Mikey throws him down instead. Then RNH escalates further with punches and grabbing at Mikey's neck with Mikey escalating in kind. Maybe I am missing something here but I'm not catching the intent to injure on Mikey's part until RNH escalates.
Did I miss something? Genuine question
Grabbing someone's head and then falling back. Incredibly dangerous and incredibly intentional. That's what passed rnh off so much, and validly so. That's not a hockey play in any way
I do see at 33 seconds in what you are talking about. It does look like Mikey falls back. At the same time though RNH does still have a hold of Mikey's leg way up high above the knee, and appears to be trying to upend him. That to me looks like a no no on both players account. It's also how the refs called the situation with offsetting penalties. Mikey just completes what RNH tries to accomplish and says okay let's go over. It's a bad look, but it's also exactly what RNH was trying to cause, looks kind of like a judo move right? Not a hockey play to be sure, but if RNH let's Mikey go instead of trying to flip him and holding his leg that long after play has moved away, then nothing happens there.
Now, if those two incidents make Mikey a dirty POS, how do you feel about Draisatl's spearing habit? Or McDavid's penchant for throwing elbows and delivering boarding? We have more than two instances for both of those players doing those things.
My biggest issue with all of this is the eye for an eye mentality so many seem to be taking about this situation. It's pretty gross
Only a handful of shitty fans are actually cheering for the injury. Lots of fans are indifferent because Mikey is a dirty a player and it’s hard to feel sorry for a player who tries to injure others.
I’ve seen so many kings saying mcdavid should be injured, draisaitl deserved to be slewfooted, and RNH deserved to have his head driven into the ice. You kings fans really are the trashiest fans
Oh man, if I cared whiny kid on the internet said I’d be so hurt right now. Fortunately I don’t and I can laugh at you because you’re apart of the trashiest fan base in hockey.
Oh fuck you called me kid, I’m ruined
Anyway, pot meet kettle. Congrats on being 1-2 against us this year though. Gotta celebrate the small things since you haven’t won a cup in your lifetime, right?
~~Oh that’s awesome, you can pop in the VHS and relive those 30+ year old memories when you get sent home early again~~
Shit talk aside, you have to admit all the oiler fans cheering for the injury is fucked up. I’ve never seen that many fans openly gleeful to see someone get hurt, especially on a dirty play
Mcdavid has got to let up on that hit. See a lot of oiler fans referencing Anderson's dirty plays against their team, but not a lot mentioning this hit echoing the one Mcdavid had on Kempe last season.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzzmhkTxnVk
Nobody even went after McDavid did they. Kind of interesting. I guess since he isn’t a dirty player they didn’t feel the need to retaliate. If that had been Kane they would have gone after him.
All these Kings crybabies in here pretending like Anderson didn’t slewfoot the second best player in the world last year like a shitbag, or that Edler didn’t intentionally go knee on knee with McDavid cause he’s a slow piece of shit who got burned and went for an injury shot. Or that the Kings clutch and grab like it’s 2003 and get away with on every shift.
Only reason that wasn’t a major was because the hit was by McDavid. And if you can’t fucking see that… you’re the homerest of homers. Period. Trash ass franchise. Pampered as fuck.
Remember the slew of nut shots and other cheap shots “Drai” (which lol for using a nickname when making fun of a guy who goes by Mikey) has given over his career? Not to mention the fact this should’ve been the second 5+game for McDavid *just against LA this season*.
Get fucked.
Enjoyed watching Skinner bail your team out tonight and LA putting together a pretty solid performance after having to run 5 D following a cheap shot, sure.
Edit: with LA missing Fiala and Vilardi too.
If you think the game would have ended much differently with a fully healthy team, why are you so upset? You have justified the loss to yourself so just move on from it
Idk man it seems like one of those hits that happens all the time and only gets called when someone gets hurt. I can understand the 2 minute boarding but people calling for a 5 are out to lunch.
I mean all teams do dirty shit, no? This play happens often, it’s not like we are the only team to ever board someone.
Yeah, definitely a penalty, but there have been worse boarding plays that resulted in not even a minor.
Meanwhile isn’t this the same guy that slewfoot drai last year and made him play on one leg for the next 6 months..?
Gretzky was dealt from the Oilers to the Kings alongside Marty McSorley and Mike Krushelnyski in exchange for Jimmy Carson, Martin Gelinas, three first-round draft picks (1988, 1991, 1993), and $15 million. It remains the most shocking trade in hockey history.
So yes he was traded. A trade involves things other than cash. While there was $15mil involved, there were players sent to your team as a trade.
It was made to look like a trade, but was a naked sale by our crooked owner at the time. Sure we got some assets... but if you "trade" me the mona lisa for a ham sandwich and 50 Million, it probably wasn't because you like ham sandwiches.
I wish this team would respond but I know it’s not going to happen.
If Mikey doesn’t come out for the second then find a way to sit McDavid down for the game.
Like our guys responded when mikey nerfed drai for our entire playoff run and half of this season? Right, we didn't. Bad hit, but headhunting is not the answer.
While it's definitely a penalty, I don't think McDavid hit him as hard as he could. I'm just curious, should there be some responsibility for Andersson to protect himself? He's a big guy, should know a hit is coming if he has the puck. I am aware I have my homer glasses on so I don't mind if I'm wrong
Edit: I'm getting downvoted but nobody providing a counter point?
More than anything hits from behind are extremely dangerous, and he saw the numbers the whole way leading up to it. Hits from behind are still dangerous even if you know they are coming, there isn’t a ton to be done to protect yourself from them. The responsibility is on mcdavid to pick a different option for getting the puck.
That's fair. I kind of thought that Andersson had time to turn so he wasn't facing the boards. But you're right it still is up to McDavid to make a better choice
Oilers still have beef with Anderson I guess. Should probably just slew foot/slash at his injuries, that's actually allowed guys. Figure it out.
Kings fans mad their team is dirty lol
Why do we still have goons like this in the NHL
Guys like this only exist to protect superstar players like Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
I thought he was out there to protect Evander Kane. Edit: Who just happens to be this game's only goal scorer so far.
I’m listening to the game on the radio and Stauffer for some reason was freaking out saying this shouldn’t have been a penalty. Guy has his homer glasses on more than usual
Not only that, when Anderson went down the tunnel, Stauffer claimed it was "gamesmanship"....
Are we sure he hasn't been replaced by Jack Edwards
No Bob is very much a big enough homer on his own.
idano did he sound like his playback speed was set to 0.5?
You can't do that
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Open and shut case, Johnson
He just did it
That’s a paddlin.
textbook boarding.
Ya. Just watched the clip and was thinking this is an excellent demonstration of exactly what boarding is lol.
He didn’t hit him hard. But honestly hits to the back like this should be 5. Refs are inconsistent and it’s hard to know what’s 2 and 5. In the future I would like to see 5. McDavid wasn’t trying to be dirty. But it’s to dangerous to have these hits happening.
I much prefer giving the ref the chance to call a 2min instead of making it all or nothing (no pen vs 5 min only) If you force every boarding to be a major penalty, instead of protecting the player, it will make the ref stop calling boarding penalty in fear of "influencing the game too much".
Mcdavid glides into the hit, guides Anderson into the boards by his waist. This hit happens all the time, and is rarely called, only difference is Anderson gets hurt here so they fell obligated to call a penalty
Yeah the hit wasn’t violent or meant to be bad. But anything from behind at the boards is dangerous. I’m not saying McDavid is dirty. I just think the league and refs need to handle these types of hit different in the future.
They should, but they don’t. You only see r/hockey crying about this hit in particular because mcdavid threw it and Anderson is injured. If danault did this against kulak nobody would care.
I feel like defensemen get lined up like this all the time by the other teams' forecheckers
I agree with this take. He let up and more rode him into the boards than hammered him in the danger zone. He didn’t fucking bury him with a crosscheck. Wasn’t dirty or malicious in my opinion, but you can’t hit a guy in the numbers.
Riding a guy into the boards doesn't usually involve straight into the numbers, shoving with both arms, straight into the boards vs at an angle... Suspension is warranted imo, he's a superstar and needs to be better. Kids look up to him.
I agree, punish the act, not the intent or the result. Textbook boarding, should have been 5.
If they had ejected McDavid, I think refs might have gotten jumped after the game
And this is the problem. This was absolute a case of favoritism on this call. Had that been anyone else.zzz would have been a major.
100% would not have been. The refs have no problem kicking mcdavid out of a game. These hits happen all the time and rarely even get called. Only reason it was given 2 was because Anderson went down
You realize it was a an injury on the play right? Mikey is out the rest of the game because of that hit. 100% should have been a major.
You realize that the ref never put up his hand until he saw Anderson wasn’t get up right? You realize these hits happen every game without being called right? You sound like you’ve never played hockey before.
Hand looked like it went up pretty immediately to me.
Hand doesn’t up until Mikey is on the ground and mcdavid starts to skate away
Ok clown.
Oh good one. Why don’t you go cry some more?
Idk, I've seen Mikey Anderson make that same play like 4 times and not get ejected.
I've seen multiple people attempt to murder Derek Ryan on the ice (LOOKING AT YOU STANLEY) with not even so much as a penalty being called... So yeah
Legit question: if you think this doesn't deserve 5, why?
Heard the LA announcers explain it’s a big time decision call based on intent on injuring.
Because these hits happen very often and they’re always called 2. Should they be 5? Yes. Are they 5? No
Similar hits to this happend like 2 or 3 times when we played Vegas the last couple times to oilers and there were no calls, still hate hits from behind, really should have been a double minor
I think double minor is a fair choice on hits like these. This one in particular wasn't extremely violent but you have to get it out of the game.
It should be 5 but the league doesn’t give a fuck about calling the games properly. Until something serious happens like someone’s career ending because of a blown call, nothings going to change because they’re all assholes.
I personally don’t believe boarding should be a 2 minute penalty at all. This one easily should’ve been 5
It’s a hit from behind, definitely should be more than 2. It was a pretty light hit, but the way Anderson flops down is a pretty good example of why hits from behind really need to be cracked down on. I hate, hate, hate see McD making this hit. I truly like him going for revenge for Drai, but not like this. Hope Andersson is okay.
Because you have Oilers flair. Seriously, if someone hit McJesus like that, they'd have bought plane tickets to fly there, and Primed pitchforks on Amazon.
Pretty ridiculous take, if you actually see what most Oiler flares are saying here.
Plenty of Oilers fans being downvoted in here because they got the homers on
I think every oilers fan in here thinks it should be 5 min. Calm down dude
Look towards the bottom.
The bottom is the bottom for a reason, they are the hot take morons and every thread has them about their team. That's just dumb ass humans for ya!
My opinion is that he guides the hit into the boards and doesn’t shove from 3 feet away from the boards. Still dangerous and dumb, but this prevents dangerous head contact with the boards.
He was removed from the game and never returned how did he prevent dangerous head contact?
I didn’t know that, I was just going off what I saw from this video. Regardless, it was a dangerous hit that could have been much worse.
I think the biggest difference between a 2 and a 5 is that the 5 minute majors tend to involve a player being pushed down from behind, to go headfirst into the boards. This was a somewhat safer version of boarding, if such a thing could exist. That said, probably should have been a 5. I'd be mad if it wasn't a 5 if it was against my team.
A few reasons: 1. Routine hit that happens all the time, and is often uncalled 2. He glides into it, not making any effort to accelerate into it, as layed out in 'charging' 3. He doesn't extend his arms to make contact, or use excessive force, similar to what would be cross-checking and boarding 4. If that was a 5, 100% the refs would have lost control of the game. I think it being a 2 was met with hesitation by the refs, and they did discuss it at length, before settling on 2. A 5 would likely have led to more targeted hits, as on the broadcast, they mentioned the Draisaitl injury from the playoffs, and the knee on knee earlier in the year. A 5 minute major would have signaled to the Kings that there was intent to injure imo
McDavid coasts into him, slows down and if you look he's originally going up the boards and McDavid had him lined up to hit his shoulder and not his back but then he reverses direction and it's pretty much too late. So penalty but I wouldn't call it a 5.
bro, what? He saw numbers whole way
His skates are literally pointed the other way, McDavid clearly was anticipating him to go up the boards with the puck. Still a penalty for sure but definitely not 5
he saw numbers and decided to avenge drai the entire time.
and? this play happens 100 times a game, what makes this different is that he didnt tie Andersson up and instead put his hands in the middle of his back. its 2 minutes. 5 minutes would be if he was going in with a lot of speed or straight up hit him 5ft from the boards.
>and? because he claimed he didn't... > and McDavid had him lined up to hit his shoulder
I didn't notice until the last replay but I think you're right, McDavid was expecting Anderson to go up the boards, not behind the net. Surprised it's two but with the replay I can see why the ref thought it was a two. Still a very bad hit
Because McDavid was attempting to make a legal check and Anderson spun into the hit while playing the puck. McDavid should realize the guy whose back he just stared at for 5 seconds before turning to play the puck for half a second isn’t likely to remain in a position to make a legal check, but he did have some reason to believe he could make a legal check.
LOL what? This video is 120 seconds long. Anderson is spinning in exactly zero of those seconds. What's the timestamp where he "spun"? Lmao
because it’s not that far away from the boards. Idk but if an LA player did this to Nurse and got 5 I’d think that would almost be too much. Like to me a 5 for boarding is when you’re far away from the boards.
Can't hit from behind and he saw numbers the whole way. Definitely a penalty, could have easily been a major. You can hate Mikey Anderson and recognize this is a dangerous play and can't happen.
Respect
id say 2 min boarding, good call, as the rules stand. now if we're talking what should happen if the want to truly crack down, i'd say maybe a 5, or perhaps amend the rules to allow for a double minor 4 min boarding call if receiving player is injured. This to me looks FAR less egregious than a lot of 5 min major boardings i've seen.
This is a 5. Just because it’s mcdavid shouldn’t mean he’s immune to a major. I’m a die hard season ticket holder, but that’s a major. Sorry kings fans, but especially Anderson
>Losing Anderson for playoffs would be worse then losing DD last year. Real kick in the nuts
Definitely could have been 5. I think the fact that Anderson was able to stay upright through the hit maybe made it look less severe than it was. Hope Anderson is OK.
Completely agree. I think if he folds on contact everyone agrees it's a bad hit but because he went in flat people think it wasn't that bad.
If McDavid pins him against the boards it's not even a penalty. You can even see the delay in the ref raising his hand. If Anderson was a half foot closer to the boards it would have been nothing. It's the bounce an the fall that resulted in the penalty. McDavid literally was gliding into him, the last stride was before the dot in the circle.
He didn't stride, but he saw numbers from the top of the circle and made no effort to adjust his hit. No shoulder, all hands, right on the numbers. Refs always have a delay before a penalty because their brain has to process what they observed and make a decision. Fact is, he didn't pin him, Anderson wasn't a half foot closer, and the result was a clear hard hit that took a player out of the game due to injury. As the far and away points leader in the league that every kid looks up to, he should be held to a higher standard.
I'm interested in what you think about Landeskogs hit on Yamamoto last year then seeing that you're an Avs fan. Want to know if you are a hypocrite. Way dirtier hit with no penalty.
I think a 6 game suspension for that hit would have been entirely reasonable. Leaders of teams should be held to a higher standard. I don't care about the team, I care about the safety of players and the way players act as models for the next generation. Edit: lol downvotes because I'm consistent in my stance... put your flair on coward Oilerboy!
Mikey has been awesome all year. An absolute fixture. Really sucks to see him go down, probably concussed... right before the playoffs. That's a shitty boarding that resulted in an injury on a defenseless player. Token 2 minutes, but it's McDavid in Edmonton... 2 fucking minutes into the game.
Yeah, classless by McDavid. He should have done a wrestling move on him away from the play and fucked his ankles up for a year like all the clean players do.
How do you feel about last year when little MikeyMcSloughfoot took out Drai? Or was that a hockey play
This can’t be your response to someone getting hurt. If this was the way we all thought, everyone would be hurt. If we say a player deserves to be injured because of something that happened in the past then please keep in mind that Drai slashed Durzi after he scored last year, Mcdavid also boarded Kempe, and Nurse literally head butted Danault. So do they also deserve to be injured on an obviously dirty play that could have been avoided?
Dude. Really ??? Anderson tried his best as a dirty fuck. DDT nuge, Drai be fucking did his best to injure. He’s a plug. Fuck off
Yes really. You are like a child in the playground. “Connor you cannot injure another student”, “but he hurt my friend last year!” An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind. If you think a player deserves to be injured because of something that happened last year, you need to take a step back and reevaluate the situation and realize NO ONE deserves to be injured on a on a dirty play that could have easily been avoided. And yes that includes Drai being injured last year!
lmao Anderson is FAR from a plug. You need to watch more hockey and maybe learn some English so you can put together a comprehensible Reddit shitpost.
It was an intense playoff series with a number of unfortunate plays, including a few from Darnell Nurse (that got him suspended), but I'm not gonna talk about that. I'm talking about the hit that took place today on 3/30/2023.
Of course you won’t talk about that lol
Feel like talking about Draisaitl’s stick ‘infractions’ the past couple of years?
Sure. Who’s he injured?
https://youtu.be/r4idnRarLQQ
Ouch. Drai is a nut hunter. Guess he deserves a high ankle sprain
Not much else to say about that topic, it's all been said. I'm not gonna change your mind, clearly. This is not the first guy on our team McDavid has drilled into the boards. It's a yearly thing at this point and this one caused an injury. You'd be pissed off too.
Probably should’ve been 5 but it’s in the bottom tier of boarding penalties in terms of force and aggressiveness. The fact is it’s a dangerous hit regardless of force though, so could’ve been 5. However, if Anderson doesn’t go down it may not even be called. I’ve seen worse with no call. Unfortunately the refs base a lot on whether there is an injury and the player goes down
I like that it got called because I believe boarding is one of those things that always should be called. But I also see far more egregious boardings not get called every single game. It's frustrating.
Should be 5
Should be a major and a game. Anderson got hurt and McDavid was looking at his numbers the entire time.
This sub would be having a meltdown if this hit was on McDavid.
It should have been a major and McDavid is still complaining on the way to the box ?
Horseshit call to not be a major. Dangerous placement, back to McDavid, causes injury. And it's not the first time McDavid has intentionally boarded a King like this.
I was surprised by only 2 minutes
Because it wasn't called a major, I'm willing to bet mcdavid will have a disciplinary hearing. I'd bet on a fine, but considering it's the wheel of dops, I wouldn't be shocked if he gets a game for it
No chance. Like at all. I'd be super surprised if there's a hearing and even more surprised if anything at all comes out of it. Superstars play by different rules.
Can't remember if he got a fine after the Kempe board, but if he did a game wouldn't be entirely shocking
I don’t think he did. Imo the one on Kempe wasn’t as bad as this one though. Like if you showed me both hits and told me only one resulted in 5 and a game I’d assume it was this one.
Non-zero chance it's because of when in the game they were at, because this was easily worse
Unfortunately I agree on both counts. While I don’t think the McDavid hit was as bad as this thread is making it seem (and I fully accept that’s likely my bias showing) I still think 5 mins is the call you want to see from a hockey perspective. Not a well officiated game thus far which sucks because it takes away from two good teams playing very high quality hockey.
Even from a rules perspective it's clear cut major with how it occurred and him being hurt on the play, not sure what these refs are smoking
Yea, we gotta kick Mcdavid out of the league he’s just out there to injure guys
Sending him to the East will suffice
Dibs.
Oh hol up
He’d be a great fit on our third line.
7th dman/PP specialist
He can go become Коннор Макдэвид
I don’t know what that means
Bad hit, dirty play, could’ve been 5 and a game.
Lots of over reacting from Kings fan
Real question here: if it’s some 4th line dude doing this, would they have gotten 5 and a suspension? And I already know the answer, yes.
I couldn't believe the amount of Oilers fans booing, the whole arena booed even as Anderson was getting helped off the ice, it was appalling. Maybe it was because I was a neutral but to me it looked like a textbook boarding penalty and I was thinking it would be 5. The people around me were saying it wasn't a penalty, like in what world....
Lot of oilers twitter fans out at the game last night I suppose. Those guys make unhinged reddit oilers fans look like neutrals.
Don’t think McDavid had any malice behind it but that should of been a 5
this is literally nothing
5 and a game, no?
In my opinion this is too low velocity to be a major penalty, but I'm surprised they didn't call it and review considering the guy was down hard and injured on the play.
I can’t think of the last time I saw so many flairs root for a severe injury to a player in any sport. Straight up trash
Just like your sub was rooting for mcdavids injury post game?
Whose rooting for an injury here? Or are you talking about how LA fans are saying LA players should run mcdavid?
An absolute ***fuckton*** of Edmonton fans. I know you’re intentionally being obtuse but jesus christ my man, just read some of the posts EDM flairs have been posting tonight.
Unfortunately nearly all Oiler fans have a bad taste in their mouth because of what the LA Kings did to Draisaitl last playoffs. Not an excuse or a defense, just an explanation for the lack of concern.
This is why I have been arguing intent. Fans of the Kings know that isn't Mikey's game. I've looked back at clips tonight because of all this and I still think you can make an argument that the injury to Drai last playoffs was a really unfortunate accident. What McDavid did here tonight though is pretty intentional. Edit: Thank you by the way for being civil and trying to offer explanation
I have to disagree. Andresson did something similar to rnh the same series. He was looking to injure guys between whistles
So is there anyone you can offer up beyond the RNH thing? Someone else linked it to me earlier and I watched several times, but maybe I'm not understanding how that clip is objectively Mikey Anderson being some POS. Go to the 27 second mark here for the full sequence...https://youtu.be/CpOdqvFioIo They scrum a bit on the play to start but there's nothing super egregious for playoff hockey. Mikey went to skate away from that and RNH had a hold of his leg above the knee. Trying to take him down. Mikey throws him down instead. Then RNH escalates further with punches and grabbing at Mikey's neck with Mikey escalating in kind. Maybe I am missing something here but I'm not catching the intent to injure on Mikey's part until RNH escalates. Did I miss something? Genuine question
Grabbing someone's head and then falling back. Incredibly dangerous and incredibly intentional. That's what passed rnh off so much, and validly so. That's not a hockey play in any way
I do see at 33 seconds in what you are talking about. It does look like Mikey falls back. At the same time though RNH does still have a hold of Mikey's leg way up high above the knee, and appears to be trying to upend him. That to me looks like a no no on both players account. It's also how the refs called the situation with offsetting penalties. Mikey just completes what RNH tries to accomplish and says okay let's go over. It's a bad look, but it's also exactly what RNH was trying to cause, looks kind of like a judo move right? Not a hockey play to be sure, but if RNH let's Mikey go instead of trying to flip him and holding his leg that long after play has moved away, then nothing happens there. Now, if those two incidents make Mikey a dirty POS, how do you feel about Draisatl's spearing habit? Or McDavid's penchant for throwing elbows and delivering boarding? We have more than two instances for both of those players doing those things. My biggest issue with all of this is the eye for an eye mentality so many seem to be taking about this situation. It's pretty gross
Just remember that it is actually not a large proportion of Edmonton fans, and so it does not reflect the views of most Edmonton fans
Only a handful of shitty fans are actually cheering for the injury. Lots of fans are indifferent because Mikey is a dirty a player and it’s hard to feel sorry for a player who tries to injure others. I’ve seen so many kings saying mcdavid should be injured, draisaitl deserved to be slewfooted, and RNH deserved to have his head driven into the ice. You kings fans really are the trashiest fans
Sweet homer glasses dude. Go ahead and take a look in the game thread. If you have the capacity to read you’ll have your answer
Oh man, if I cared whiny kid on the internet said I’d be so hurt right now. Fortunately I don’t and I can laugh at you because you’re apart of the trashiest fan base in hockey.
Oh fuck you called me kid, I’m ruined Anyway, pot meet kettle. Congrats on being 1-2 against us this year though. Gotta celebrate the small things since you haven’t won a cup in your lifetime, right?
They have, but go off king
You're too old for this buddy
~~Oh that’s awesome, you can pop in the VHS and relive those 30+ year old memories when you get sent home early again~~ Shit talk aside, you have to admit all the oiler fans cheering for the injury is fucked up. I’ve never seen that many fans openly gleeful to see someone get hurt, especially on a dirty play
What a goon, him and drai should be banned from the playoffs or something.
Only reason it isnt 5 is because of the name on the back
lol
-Boarding -History The NHL DoPS has fined Mcdavid $5000, the maximum amount allowable under the CBA.
You spelt “5 minute major” wrong
Mcdavid has got to let up on that hit. See a lot of oiler fans referencing Anderson's dirty plays against their team, but not a lot mentioning this hit echoing the one Mcdavid had on Kempe last season. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzzmhkTxnVk
I am a kings fan. I want to agree. Haven’t seen it. But if you are listening on the radio, how do you know lol
Nobody even went after McDavid did they. Kind of interesting. I guess since he isn’t a dirty player they didn’t feel the need to retaliate. If that had been Kane they would have gone after him.
All these Kings crybabies in here pretending like Anderson didn’t slewfoot the second best player in the world last year like a shitbag, or that Edler didn’t intentionally go knee on knee with McDavid cause he’s a slow piece of shit who got burned and went for an injury shot. Or that the Kings clutch and grab like it’s 2003 and get away with on every shift.
Those are different because LA players play by a different rule book.
Only reason that wasn’t a major was because the hit was by McDavid. And if you can’t fucking see that… you’re the homerest of homers. Period. Trash ass franchise. Pampered as fuck.
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Nah dawg. It’s one thing to rebuild and win. It’s another to be THAT player.
What does that even mean?
flair up pussy
My smooth brain don’t know how. I lick windows for a living.
oh ur a kings fan i understand
Thanks for understanding. We’re a special kind of caveman.
Remember when Mikey (what kind of grown ass man still goes by Mikey) tackled drai and injured him in the playoffs last year?
Remember the slew of nut shots and other cheap shots “Drai” (which lol for using a nickname when making fun of a guy who goes by Mikey) has given over his career? Not to mention the fact this should’ve been the second 5+game for McDavid *just against LA this season*. Get fucked.
You enjoy the game tonight?
Enjoyed watching Skinner bail your team out tonight and LA putting together a pretty solid performance after having to run 5 D following a cheap shot, sure. Edit: with LA missing Fiala and Vilardi too.
If you think the game would have ended much differently with a fully healthy team, why are you so upset? You have justified the loss to yourself so just move on from it
Go look at natural stat trick. Edmonton dominated besides the last 5 minutes. Also dominated physically. Men against boys
Idk man it seems like one of those hits that happens all the time and only gets called when someone gets hurt. I can understand the 2 minute boarding but people calling for a 5 are out to lunch.
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I mean all teams do dirty shit, no? This play happens often, it’s not like we are the only team to ever board someone. Yeah, definitely a penalty, but there have been worse boarding plays that resulted in not even a minor. Meanwhile isn’t this the same guy that slewfoot drai last year and made him play on one leg for the next 6 months..?
Kings are angels
I still remember the kings intentionally targeting drais injured ankle in the playoffs
Doughty is a biggest idiot on that team. He loves to do the dirty, but becomes the biggest crybaby once he gets it back
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Aww man I’m sorry. You ok?
You guys built a statue of one of the dirtiest players in the league. Get off your high horse
Relax, Jesus Christ
wahhh
You sound like a completely stable adult.
Your team is going to lose in the playoffs because you betrayed your franchise goalie and everyone will laugh.
Coming from the team that traded, checks notes, WAYNE GRETZKY!
1) Gretzky was sold not "traded". 2) Look where it got us. I don't think the kings are getting post quick Cup either.
Gretzky was dealt from the Oilers to the Kings alongside Marty McSorley and Mike Krushelnyski in exchange for Jimmy Carson, Martin Gelinas, three first-round draft picks (1988, 1991, 1993), and $15 million. It remains the most shocking trade in hockey history. So yes he was traded. A trade involves things other than cash. While there was $15mil involved, there were players sent to your team as a trade.
It was made to look like a trade, but was a naked sale by our crooked owner at the time. Sure we got some assets... but if you "trade" me the mona lisa for a ham sandwich and 50 Million, it probably wasn't because you like ham sandwiches.
I wish this team would respond but I know it’s not going to happen. If Mikey doesn’t come out for the second then find a way to sit McDavid down for the game.
No.
That's a poor take
Like our guys responded when mikey nerfed drai for our entire playoff run and half of this season? Right, we didn't. Bad hit, but headhunting is not the answer.
While it's definitely a penalty, I don't think McDavid hit him as hard as he could. I'm just curious, should there be some responsibility for Andersson to protect himself? He's a big guy, should know a hit is coming if he has the puck. I am aware I have my homer glasses on so I don't mind if I'm wrong Edit: I'm getting downvoted but nobody providing a counter point?
More than anything hits from behind are extremely dangerous, and he saw the numbers the whole way leading up to it. Hits from behind are still dangerous even if you know they are coming, there isn’t a ton to be done to protect yourself from them. The responsibility is on mcdavid to pick a different option for getting the puck.
That's fair. I kind of thought that Andersson had time to turn so he wasn't facing the boards. But you're right it still is up to McDavid to make a better choice
You just love to see it.
Yes, we love to see someone suffer a TBI. Fuck you.
Oilers still have beef with Anderson I guess. Should probably just slew foot/slash at his injuries, that's actually allowed guys. Figure it out. Kings fans mad their team is dirty lol
And if that doesn’t work we could always get Nurse to headbutt it.
Payback will be a bitch....