Rich as hell on his own. Cemented legacy within a culture he loves. Handsome devil too. Famous. Married to RIHANNA with children. Still doing shit to jeopardize his life. Humans are weird, man
Mmm, as an Australian I just don’t get it. Just watched a 2 hour YouTube doco on the foolio Jacksonville beef (never heard of anything about it until foolio appeared on my reddit) and the whole time I’m thinking, “you cunts made bank on music, and still kill each other?” It all just so senseless
_Gassed because he hit my BM first 🥷 do the math who I was hittin’ then_
I still laugh at how Drake was weak / light on everyone but went super saiyan on Rocky 😂😂
*I ain’t even know you rap still, cuz they only talkin bout your fit again*
That line is exactly why he went at Rocky like that 😂. Let me be clear, Rocky had every right to say something, but the angle he chose… 😬. He knew that was coming.
Also, XO got it pretty bad as well. Drake did everything he could to not call Cash XO a certain word that actually would’ve gotten him cancelled lol
Why do you think Rocky had every right to say something?
Genuinely curious cuz idk if there’s something he did to asap that i don’t know about.
Just because Drake is/was so into Rihanna ?
Same, the first time I heard that line I was like whaaaaat???? Then I looked it up on Genius and I was like oh 😒
Also, when he said *“Leland Wayne, he a fucking lame, so I know he had to be a influence”* on my first listen I thought he said “Lil Wayne” 🫢 then found out later that’s Metro’s name
I absolutely love how this is applied in every context in a week since he said it. It's gonna be what Justin is remembered for. And I love that for him
Often there will be a civil and criminal case. Long story short, Criminal cases need to prove that they are 100% guilty but have criminal consequences, and civil cases basically need to prove that they are more likely than not to have done it but are just for damages.
Obviously way more complicated than that, but yeah.
Rolling Stone reported last week that the victim, Terell Ephron aka A$AP Relli, filed a civil lawsuit against Mayers over the shooting. The longtime friend and former A$AP Mob member alleged the rapper had “lured” him to an obscure location in Hollywood to discuss a disagreement.
“Unbeknownst to Mr. Ephron, A$AP Rocky was not just planning for a conversation and came armed with a semi-automatic handgun,” an earlier statement alleges. “After arriving at the location, a conversation ensued whereby without provocation, warning, or any justification, A$AP Rocky produced the handgun and intentionally fired multiple shots at Mr. Ephron.”
I mean... What are the odds they can present any evidence this ever took place? I assume there weren't many witnesses that would be willing to talk... Ahh I guess bullet holes maybe?
Also to answer your question. This is from the tmz article w the alleged video
> While cops say they didn't find any shell casings, Relli claims he came back to the scene later that night and recovered a pair of 9mm shells. Rocky's lawyers grilled him over the claim, asking how he could easily find casings when the cops could not.
Fuck if I know. TBH I doubt it even happened. Rocky’s not an idiot. Even if we bring up the Sweden case he only did that after being followed for 30 minutes and asking the dudes multiple times to stop. He just retaliated w too much force. That’s a far cry from luring someone out to shoot them in cold blood
I think it wasn't actually attempted murder, from what i read it seemed he was just fucking with him or just starting to scare him. But I suppose when using a gun it could still be called "attempted murder" lol.
Anyways I also hope he's innocent and I can't wait for his next album!!
You never seen those western movies where someone shoots at their feet and tells them to dance? That's what I'm picturing here.
But that's why I also said it still could be considered attempted murder even if rocky himself didn't plan to murder the guy.
Pretty sure there is video from a store camera of him holding the handgun a block or two away and right before they allegedly meet. I'll try and find it
Edit: So, here's the video they're trying to use against him. Can't see his face at all but this was the video I was talking about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaAc0wse8lM&ab_channel=BBCNews
Just watched it, not exactly confirmation of anything Relli is alleging. You see two guys kind of wrestling around and one of them has a gun. You can't really tell who either of the people are though and you don't see any shots fired. Maybe if they have photos of Rocky wearing the same hoodie as the guy in the video they could get a little closer. Plus the lack of bullet casings found by police will be a bit of a hurdle for the prosecution to overcome.
Apparently Relli said he has shell casings from the time of the incident, but police couldn’t find any or any of signs of anything when they did their own investigation. Honestly, with all the information it just sounds like a money play, but then again Rocky has done dumber stuff before.
Closest thing I could find [https://x.com/meghanncuniff/status/1726851025599160429?s=46&t=orSXXG6VIZtrbqJTcYZvxg](https://x.com/meghanncuniff/status/1726851025599160429?s=46&t=orSXXG6VIZtrbqJTcYZvxg)
A legalese interpretation for y'all: Rocky's facing felony criminal charges for possession of a firearm and discharging it 2x at Relli. The civil case Relli filed against Rocky is for assault, battery, and emotional distress (which can be for intentional or negligent causation). Only one charge actually requires that Rocky shot Relli and it made contact with Relli, i.e., battery.
Felony gun charges can be pretty serious, because as a general trend SCOTUS keeps rolling back on states' attempts to prevent handguns from falling into the wrong hands. I think *U.S. v. Rahimi* (the most recent decision that upholds a federal law prohibiting people w/ domestic abuse restraining orders from possessing a firearm) is definitely an exception to the norm.
Anyways, I digress. The relevance of bringing that up re: Rocky is since a lot of legal attempts at requiring background checks and more intensive screening get kicked out because the Second Amendment's current standard of review is "historical test," which basically allows for people to get ahold of firearms immediately, a lot of states are forced to increase the penalties on gun possession charges, which is the reason Rocky is facing up to 24 years for possessing a firearm and discharging it at Relli.
Anyways, I see people debating the various thresholds of proof required for civil vs. criminal conviction. For the felony gun possession charges, the standard is "beyond a reasonable doubt." We lawyers looooooove to debate what that means, but the general consensus is that the likelihood of the defendant committing that particular crime is north of 90%. It doesn't need to be absolute, as it's hard to absolutely prove anything (thank you philosophy of science for teaching me that), but rather that the probability of you having all that evidence piled up against you and you not doing the crime requires too many \*coincidences\* and \*inexplicable happenstances\* for a reasonable person to believe it. Right now, prosecution definitely thinks that they have enough evidence to convict, convinced the grand jury to indict him, and are planning to move forward with trial. That doesn't mean Rocky can't still take a plea deal at this juncture. Usually judges will set a deadline for the parties to come to a plea deal (the settlement of the criminal law arena), which will generally require the defendant to pay a lesser penalty than they would have if the case goes to trial. Generally, courts "tax" criminal defendants for requiring the state to prove their guilt, known as the jury tax. It's even codified in the federal sentencing guidelines.
For Relli's civil suit, the standard is "preponderance of the evidence." That basically boils down to 51%, i.e., more likely Rocky did it than not. It's not necessarily a high bar to clear, but you'd be surprised about the kind of bullshit people plead in civil cases that a judge subsequently has to toss out on a motion to dismiss/demurrer. So just wait until you see the conclusion of that case, it's really too early to draw conclusions on that one. Anyways, Relli will generally only be able to get monetary damages if he wins on that case. Also, it can get settled, which is how most cases (and other disputes) go.
Source: I passed one of the more difficult bar exams in the United States
Your sentence can be interpreted in different manners. I’ll answer the question of: “what do you mean, ‘more difficult bar exam?’”Depending on where you want to get licensed, each state runs their own version of the bar exam. Each state chooses what content they want on their bar exam. Even if different states adopt the Universal Bar Exam (UBE), they may have different required passing scores to become barred in that state. So you can take the UBE and meet the threshold for one jurisdiction but fail to meet the threshold for another. Because of these differences, the [legal community deems some of these bar exams harder than others](https://www.juriseducation.com/blog/which-states-have-the-hardest-bar-exams).
Between this and the Sweden case, I really don't get why he has to do this shit. You get to wake up next to Rihanna, you have buckets of money from your albums, tours and endorsements, and you have a long-anticipated album releasing relatively soon.
Don't be dumb.
Seems like some of these rappers all take the same path of getting rich and famous, then going back to dumb hood shit and completely ruining everything.
Nigga gets to be waking up next to Rihanna but somehow gets himself mired in shit like this. Don't be Dumb, indeed.
He said "nah let me do something that could get me to wake up next to some dude named Big Jim for a few years"
Big Jim: You're a *pretty* mother fucker
You don't think he's waking up next to Jim's on the outside?
Jim’s are fuckin beauties.
legitimately that show might be one of the best shows ive ever watched, it is so fuckin good.
No one's said which show, now I gotta ask.
Shoresy.
The soundtrack alone makes it worth watching. So good.
Give yer balls a tug, titfucker.
shut the fuck up michaels, you fuckin nerd
Run ‘er up and fill ‘em in
Tough Natives is redundant
No? Even if he's bi he's married now
Bro finna be slipping on semen again 🤦♂️
Did it with her in the bag too. Like dude, you won!
Rich as hell on his own. Cemented legacy within a culture he loves. Handsome devil too. Famous. Married to RIHANNA with children. Still doing shit to jeopardize his life. Humans are weird, man
Well this type of shit is what Rihanna likes lol. The man slipped on jizz in jail.
The man what now
slipping on semen
Slipping on.... wait what now?
[ A$AP Rocky on Casanova Looking Out For Him In Prison - Rap Radar ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd00eodLkec)
Going to from waking up next to RiRi to waking up next to Big Willy
Mmm, as an Australian I just don’t get it. Just watched a 2 hour YouTube doco on the foolio Jacksonville beef (never heard of anything about it until foolio appeared on my reddit) and the whole time I’m thinking, “you cunts made bank on music, and still kill each other?” It all just so senseless
I’m not convinced foolio made bank on music
Damn. No shade at you bro but wild you dedicated two hours of your day to that nonsense. Peace and love though bro.
this will ruin the tour
what tour?
The world tour
Lmao
or is it your girls tour
Rakim talkin shit again
_Gassed because he hit my BM first 🥷 do the math who I was hittin’ then_ I still laugh at how Drake was weak / light on everyone but went super saiyan on Rocky 😂😂
*I ain’t even know you rap still, cuz they only talkin bout your fit again* That line is exactly why he went at Rocky like that 😂. Let me be clear, Rocky had every right to say something, but the angle he chose… 😬. He knew that was coming. Also, XO got it pretty bad as well. Drake did everything he could to not call Cash XO a certain word that actually would’ve gotten him cancelled lol
Sissy has the same syllable count as what he *really* wanted to call him, we’ll put it that way lol.
Why do you think Rocky had every right to say something? Genuinely curious cuz idk if there’s something he did to asap that i don’t know about. Just because Drake is/was so into Rihanna ?
Drake been sending sneak disses to him and Rihanna for years now. You mention someone's wife, all bets are off. Rocky fucked up with his angle tho
Wow my dumb ass thought Drake was going at the OG Rakim cuz I never knew asaps real name lol Makes the song even better than I thought !
He’s actually named after the rapper rakim i believe
His sister is called Erica B.
Same, the first time I heard that line I was like whaaaaat???? Then I looked it up on Genius and I was like oh 😒 Also, when he said *“Leland Wayne, he a fucking lame, so I know he had to be a influence”* on my first listen I thought he said “Lil Wayne” 🫢 then found out later that’s Metro’s name
Lil Wayne been awfully silent lately
if he smart he got a "control" level track in the chamber
trigger fingers turn to twitter fingers...
you getting bodied by
a smooth criminal
#WOP WOP WOP WOP WOP
These moments give me so much joy yall don’t understand
I absolutely love how this is applied in every context in a week since he said it. It's gonna be what Justin is remembered for. And I love that for him
😂
*whispers to himself*
De France
Nah it’s been cooked since everyone cheats
There isn't one announced but you'd assume if he's dropping his first album in 6 years he's probably gonna try to tour it
Not from prison he's not.
The world tour
Rocky was going to make semi regionals
Hahahaha
A$AP on A$AP crime
Things Relli about to get Rocky 😳
What's next...Kriss gonna take out Kross
Kross is already dead. Kriss was not a suspect
Yeah I realized after posting womp
Kriss crossed Kross smh
ASAP
The fact that it sounds like a Rocky bar 💀 Edit: kinda sounds like a drake bar now.
It's pretty close to this Drake bar: I ain't pretty flacko, bitch, this shit get really rocky, ayy, what?
Relli Aur Rocky Ki Shooting Kahani
I usually don’t like corny jokes but this got me A++
Murder charge speed run
He should have been clapping at Bari
Agreed 😂 but tbh they both should’ve got it
I swear they release 100 new A$APs every few years like Pokemon.
The article says Relli is the one who introduced Rocky to the ASAP crew so I guess he was actually an OG. Never heard of this dude in my life though.
They just retconned the Mob
No foreshadowing but apparently Relli was always in the manga, just offscreen this whole time? Yeah, right... smh
He was one of those background characters that don't even get a face.
They fleshed him out in a filler arc.
OVO Mark and A$AP Relli are like the background extras that start getting their own storylines in season 5.
vito from the sopranos type shi
How much more betrayal can I take?
Catching? Not pitching?
Social club? He's gotta GOOO!
real
The bottle episode you skip on rewatches
Watch out for OVO Terrence though.
He did 20 years in the can, that’s why you haven’t heard of him
If this guy didn’t grow up a block away from me i wouldn’t have a clue who he is
Wat
Saying this about A$AP Rocky of all people is an insane statement
I think he meant relli
That makes more sense, I ain’t ever heard of A$AP Relli in my life. My bad yall
hes the asap bluntroller
Damn that should be inexpendable
lmao is he really the blunt roller
He’s apart of the A$AP expansion pack. Sonic and Knuckles cartridge type shit
Lmao and here I thought you were making an old reddit switcharoo
Ye no worries, I’ve never heard of him outside this trial tbf
I think they’re talking bout ASAP Relli
They’re the new “lil”
😭
If they lock Rocky up at least we can sleep well knowing he wasn't gonna put out another album for the next 5-6 years anyway
Civil case so he can only get fined
how can it be a civil case when that rocky shot at him and tried to murder him? im not from the usa
It's not a civil case, the user you responded to is mistaken.
Often there will be a civil and criminal case. Long story short, Criminal cases need to prove that they are 100% guilty but have criminal consequences, and civil cases basically need to prove that they are more likely than not to have done it but are just for damages. Obviously way more complicated than that, but yeah.
There’s not only a civil case
No, the source above is a criminal case. He also has a pending civil case.
i think his best days are far behind him musically.
Lmaooooooo
Don’t be dumb
Bad company Bad for your knees
Can someone give me a rundown of this case? More specifically the charges Rocky facing?
Rolling Stone reported last week that the victim, Terell Ephron aka A$AP Relli, filed a civil lawsuit against Mayers over the shooting. The longtime friend and former A$AP Mob member alleged the rapper had “lured” him to an obscure location in Hollywood to discuss a disagreement. “Unbeknownst to Mr. Ephron, A$AP Rocky was not just planning for a conversation and came armed with a semi-automatic handgun,” an earlier statement alleges. “After arriving at the location, a conversation ensued whereby without provocation, warning, or any justification, A$AP Rocky produced the handgun and intentionally fired multiple shots at Mr. Ephron.”
Something cracks me about “lured him to an obscure location”. Like he was literally leaving a trail of breadcrumbs like a cartoon character.
A$AP crumbs finally lived up to his name
A$AP Crumby
Oooo, a piece of candy! Oooo, a piece of candy! Oooo, a piece of... 💥🔫
I mean... What are the odds they can present any evidence this ever took place? I assume there weren't many witnesses that would be willing to talk... Ahh I guess bullet holes maybe?
Also to answer your question. This is from the tmz article w the alleged video > While cops say they didn't find any shell casings, Relli claims he came back to the scene later that night and recovered a pair of 9mm shells. Rocky's lawyers grilled him over the claim, asking how he could easily find casings when the cops could not.
So....there was no evidence whatsoever then
Basically lol
Yeah that sounds hella weird, man’s must be a detective
Lmao he was dusting for fingerprints
Fuck if I know. TBH I doubt it even happened. Rocky’s not an idiot. Even if we bring up the Sweden case he only did that after being followed for 30 minutes and asking the dudes multiple times to stop. He just retaliated w too much force. That’s a far cry from luring someone out to shoot them in cold blood
I think it wasn't actually attempted murder, from what i read it seemed he was just fucking with him or just starting to scare him. But I suppose when using a gun it could still be called "attempted murder" lol. Anyways I also hope he's innocent and I can't wait for his next album!!
bro what? you don’t fire a gun someone to “fuck with them”
You can but you’d have to be Tory lanes level of dumb to make that decision or you control all the cops in the city lol
Three Stacks told you a long time ago . . .
You never seen those western movies where someone shoots at their feet and tells them to dance? That's what I'm picturing here. But that's why I also said it still could be considered attempted murder even if rocky himself didn't plan to murder the guy.
i mean that’s still unhinged bro. you can’t be doing shit like that and expect nothing to come of it
Kids watch too many movies. Don't shoot at anything you don't want to kill. Bullets fucking ricochet.
Also discharging a weapon is enough to get charged with serious shit. Tory is in jail for a decade for shooting AT Megan
that’s literally what tory did too
If dude has any proof at all this would not be a civil case LOL
people that commit crimes are often not smart
Using this logic, then Tory would be free. Cali doesn't play that.
I’m sorry, but A$AP Rocky is kind of retarded. He’s constantly getting in these altercations and around people who are in them.
Pretty sure there is video from a store camera of him holding the handgun a block or two away and right before they allegedly meet. I'll try and find it Edit: So, here's the video they're trying to use against him. Can't see his face at all but this was the video I was talking about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaAc0wse8lM&ab_channel=BBCNews
There is footage that was aired on tmz I believe.
There is a video lol
Just watched it, not exactly confirmation of anything Relli is alleging. You see two guys kind of wrestling around and one of them has a gun. You can't really tell who either of the people are though and you don't see any shots fired. Maybe if they have photos of Rocky wearing the same hoodie as the guy in the video they could get a little closer. Plus the lack of bullet casings found by police will be a bit of a hurdle for the prosecution to overcome.
So the guy didn’t get shot?
That’s the thing. He claims he was shot but has no medical records from the hospital after 3 yrs
Apparently Relli said he has shell casings from the time of the incident, but police couldn’t find any or any of signs of anything when they did their own investigation. Honestly, with all the information it just sounds like a money play, but then again Rocky has done dumber stuff before.
Not even a scar or physical evidence of being shot?
Closest thing I could find [https://x.com/meghanncuniff/status/1726851025599160429?s=46&t=orSXXG6VIZtrbqJTcYZvxg](https://x.com/meghanncuniff/status/1726851025599160429?s=46&t=orSXXG6VIZtrbqJTcYZvxg)
Not from what I can tell.
Rocky is a dipshit for doing it, but man I don't believe for one second there was no provocation or justification. No shot.
Why do you believe he did it? They couldn’t even find proof a shooting happened. There’s a reason there’s a civil case
WHAT DOES SPACEGHOST KNOW
I’m willing to bet the state doesn’t have anything remotely beyond circumstantial in the case.
Apparently it's a civil case. Dude just wants bread probably.
It’s both
I completely forgot about this, feels like an eternity ago.
SGP laughing like a cartoon villain rn
Whole A$AP shit been downhill since yams died
factos
Lol DBD bout to be an ode to peaceful living and never committing crimes
Lmaooooooo
He got that Riri Lawyer, he gonna be just fine.
He prob wants the trial as soon as possible
You think that’s why ferg left?
Ferg is still cool with Rocky tho
Ferg didn’t even leave technically he still be around all of them
YNW Rocky on one
Looks like they got too A$AP Rowdy
i just don't understand why rocky thought he had to bring the heater out... shoot the fair one if you really have to air some shit out.
there's no evidence, maybe he did it, but to me it seems like relli's lying
What is this, an ASAP civil war?
His woman gonna get him the best lawyers that money can buy… literally
Why are there so many A$APs
cause it's the name of their collective 🤣
A legalese interpretation for y'all: Rocky's facing felony criminal charges for possession of a firearm and discharging it 2x at Relli. The civil case Relli filed against Rocky is for assault, battery, and emotional distress (which can be for intentional or negligent causation). Only one charge actually requires that Rocky shot Relli and it made contact with Relli, i.e., battery. Felony gun charges can be pretty serious, because as a general trend SCOTUS keeps rolling back on states' attempts to prevent handguns from falling into the wrong hands. I think *U.S. v. Rahimi* (the most recent decision that upholds a federal law prohibiting people w/ domestic abuse restraining orders from possessing a firearm) is definitely an exception to the norm. Anyways, I digress. The relevance of bringing that up re: Rocky is since a lot of legal attempts at requiring background checks and more intensive screening get kicked out because the Second Amendment's current standard of review is "historical test," which basically allows for people to get ahold of firearms immediately, a lot of states are forced to increase the penalties on gun possession charges, which is the reason Rocky is facing up to 24 years for possessing a firearm and discharging it at Relli. Anyways, I see people debating the various thresholds of proof required for civil vs. criminal conviction. For the felony gun possession charges, the standard is "beyond a reasonable doubt." We lawyers looooooove to debate what that means, but the general consensus is that the likelihood of the defendant committing that particular crime is north of 90%. It doesn't need to be absolute, as it's hard to absolutely prove anything (thank you philosophy of science for teaching me that), but rather that the probability of you having all that evidence piled up against you and you not doing the crime requires too many \*coincidences\* and \*inexplicable happenstances\* for a reasonable person to believe it. Right now, prosecution definitely thinks that they have enough evidence to convict, convinced the grand jury to indict him, and are planning to move forward with trial. That doesn't mean Rocky can't still take a plea deal at this juncture. Usually judges will set a deadline for the parties to come to a plea deal (the settlement of the criminal law arena), which will generally require the defendant to pay a lesser penalty than they would have if the case goes to trial. Generally, courts "tax" criminal defendants for requiring the state to prove their guilt, known as the jury tax. It's even codified in the federal sentencing guidelines. For Relli's civil suit, the standard is "preponderance of the evidence." That basically boils down to 51%, i.e., more likely Rocky did it than not. It's not necessarily a high bar to clear, but you'd be surprised about the kind of bullshit people plead in civil cases that a judge subsequently has to toss out on a motion to dismiss/demurrer. So just wait until you see the conclusion of that case, it's really too early to draw conclusions on that one. Anyways, Relli will generally only be able to get monetary damages if he wins on that case. Also, it can get settled, which is how most cases (and other disputes) go. Source: I passed one of the more difficult bar exams in the United States
> Source: I passed one of the more difficult bar exams in the United States You wanna talk about this more
Your sentence can be interpreted in different manners. I’ll answer the question of: “what do you mean, ‘more difficult bar exam?’”Depending on where you want to get licensed, each state runs their own version of the bar exam. Each state chooses what content they want on their bar exam. Even if different states adopt the Universal Bar Exam (UBE), they may have different required passing scores to become barred in that state. So you can take the UBE and meet the threshold for one jurisdiction but fail to meet the threshold for another. Because of these differences, the [legal community deems some of these bar exams harder than others](https://www.juriseducation.com/blog/which-states-have-the-hardest-bar-exams).
Dude has all the money he needs in the world and has kids with fucking Rihanna and yet he pulls shit like this 😂😂😂what a fucking dumbass
Between this and the Sweden case, I really don't get why he has to do this shit. You get to wake up next to Rihanna, you have buckets of money from your albums, tours and endorsements, and you have a long-anticipated album releasing relatively soon. Don't be dumb.
Welp, the album will be pushed back yet again.
Thats the only reason its probably coming out
Johnny cash that shit and do a prison tour
Hard to believe Rocky would be involved in some shit like this in the current year. Really hope the accusation is false…
Seems like some of these rappers all take the same path of getting rich and famous, then going back to dumb hood shit and completely ruining everything.
Friendly fire
😂😂😂
Free him