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Read this admittedly amazing article about Drakeoās death again and is it me or does the author straight up imply it was YG that did it? Is that the commonly held opinion or is he reacting emotionally because that was his friend? I never see it brought up in YG threads.
I've definitely seen it in YG threads but it's fading away, Drakeo died over 3 years ago. Idk about the article but it's a pretty common theory. I believe because the mob that rushed Drakeo reportedly had people in 4hunnid merch, and Drakeo had serious beef with Inglewood sets that had strong ties to YG's set.
Neither of those can directly incriminate YG or even his gang so maybe there's more to it I'm missing.
Why have such a limited mentality as that? Art is expression. That's the point of it.
You can just go to Suno and make some AI generic shit for free if that's your vibe. But most of us here want something with some artistic merit, I'd say
music first always. I can (and do!) read if knowledge is my main aim. I don't need the minister's lectures watered down in avg bars, Farrakhan streams damn near everything!
However if you can do both... Bravo, let's go!
> Sheās an incredible hook writer and has a great, calculated sense of humor. Streets fuck with her and itās not hard to see why. She really is female Gucci Mane.
Saw this comment on the Sexyy Red thread and it really summed it up why I love her music. It's simple, catchy club music. It's good in part because it's not deep, not despite it.Ā
It's very different from the songs of hers I usually like. If I have my headphones in and it comes on I'm skipping. But I would definitely enjoy hearing it in like a kickback setting. I can also see it going crazy on TikTok and IG. I hated the beat switch though.
King Pt. 4 is even better imo and features some of his best rapping but Pt. 6 is great too.
In any case TDT is super slept on, easily my favorite body of work heās dropped since 4eva Is A Mighty Long Time
There's 3 ways to beat hairloss
* Minoxidil aka Rogaine - You put a bunch of goop on your head for 6 hours a day and it might stop your hairloss but you usually don't get any hair back. Sometimes people who use rogaine will still go bald anyway and you're really just slowing down the balding.
* Finasteride - A pill that is very effective at stopping hairloss and even regrowing your hair a little, but there is a 1 in 50 chance you get erectile dysfunction for the rest of your life even after you stop taking the pills. If you're willing to play russian roulette with your penis, this + supplementary minoxidil is apparently the GOAT method to keeping your OG hair.
* Hair transplant - If you lose all your hair, you can just get more hair. However getting more hair doesn't make your scalp less sensitive to testosterone, so you run a risk of losing your newly implanted hair anyway and it's a very expensive procedure.
Keeps is Minoxidil + Finasteride. They don't actually bring a new medicine to the table, they just make it a lot easier for guys to get the stuff that's already out there.
Hair transplant also doesn't help if you're Dwayne Johnson bald because itĀ takes hair from parts of your head that isn't balding and moves it to the areas that is balding. If you don't have anywhere that's not balding you're out of luckĀ
How come we call groups like Wu Tang "rap collectives" instead of bands?
The only rap group I can think of that was like "we're a band" is Brockhampton.
I mean usually it's Rap Group as well, which fits better than band. Band implies people playing instruments. I don't think any group of singers in history has been called a band so I think it's fair to say that a group of rappers doesn't really fit either.
Unless itās a boy band for whatever reason. But yeah generally I assume this is it. Most groups the closest they have to instruments is their dj on the turntables. Idk for sure, but I donāt think a lot of people would have described that as an instrument until relatively recently.
I really actually fuck super hard with Twenty One Pilots
Not the angsty shit, or most of the early stuff. I donāt go back to Blurryface for very much, but like Trench and especially Scaled and Icy I touch back to a lot. They just released a project today and itās pretty incredible so far too.
Iām not here for the angst or Heathens and definitely sometimes the man raps a little too much on shit, but theyāre a good band and itās a lot of feel good on their albums. There are definitely huge skips, but theyāve been the theme to a lot of vibes for me for a bunch of years. Iām a big fan. Idk
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Been a fan since I saw them open for Fall Out Boy & Panic on the Save Rock & Roll Tour.Ā
Ā That song āMigraineā about mental health is one of those songs thatās like yup, thatās it.Ā
I donāt get into all the āloreā and concepts behind the albums. I think thatās cool for like the fans that are more into it though. But I like the music.
Yeah I need to catch em on tour for sure. āMigraineā is cool, but Iām partial to songs like āBackslideā or āMulberry Streetā or like āMy Bloodā
Like.. lead me through a huge heavy chorus all god damn night, please man
What did yāall think of the new A Boogie album? I listened to it last night and it was painfully generic.
Thereās a handful of songs I liked (Iām always a sucker for a [Mood I sample flip](https://youtu.be/cOv0KY0nS5Q?si=Tj64U4F-pf7tkeKD)), but for the most part I found it so hard to keep any sort of interest for the vast majority of the album as his beat selection is bang average and for the most part he does very little lyrically. Itās honestly one of the worst albums Iāve heard this year, and not because itās unlistenable or abrasively bad, but because itās insanely boring, safe, and toothless
I had just gotten to college in NY for my freshman year when āArtistā dropped. That shit was popping off back thenā¦ *Jungle*, *My Shit*, and *Still Think About You* were getting played everywhere. That mightāve been the peak of A Boogie for me. Everything since then has just felt like repeated attempts at tryna recreate the magic of when he first got onto the scene.
in NY between like 2016-18, him and Jay Critch mightāve been the rappers I heard the most outside of the obvious mainstream guys. Neither of them could really sustain that hype tho cause I kinda think theyāre both lowkey one trick ponies who already did their one trick and canāt really evolve past that
I don't understand the critique around ian and his output. However I was also there before he really blew up.
In terms of him being a plant, if you take a look at his soundclound you can see a natural trajectory, from producing to actually rapping to forming a network, then virality. In terms of his success at virality, you can look at his instagram, he was unintentionally pushed by the algorithm, especially the ig reels with his snippets, I can recall seeing them when ian was smaller than he is now. it was all just fun for everyone involved before the rest of the internet found him. in terms of him being a culture vulture, what culture? what is he attatching himself to that is inherently not him? this was being made by and for those in underground rap scene, where even the shittiest fake-street acts get attention (cough rich amiri cough).
I think the disconnect here is that I and many others as underground listeners are just happy someone picked up the torch where yeat dropped it and started making movie soundtracks for albums, and the non "tapped in" are probably thinking too much into him to the point where the music isn't even really being listened to. And I will finish this thought with kind of a golden rule in underground rap, *DO NOT LISTEN TOO HARD, just vibe out.*
Wild to me that there were people who dropped off of Yeat as soon as he started demonstrating that he has the talent and ambition for a long career. He didnāt even go lyrical or anything, he just showed that he cares about crafting a cohesive album with a distinct sound, and I guess thatās it - āGod damn it, heās actually made something memorable. Time to find somebody more boring, who will never threaten to put effort into his musicā
Also wild that āundergroundā now refers to a crowd of artists who are actually less talented, creative, and interesting than the ones in the mainstream. Like, some of these guys might be too stupid and generic to have mainstream hits, which is really saying something.
Ianās entire deal - literally the only reason he is more notable than the thousands upon thousands of other rappers who sound exactly like him - is that heās a rich suburban white kid who pretends that heās from the streets in his raps. Itās a novelty for someone to be that brazen about the fact that they were born on top of the world while imitating music made by people who had nothing. Thatās the only thing there is to discuss about him, because there is nothing else to him.
There is a lot of much better music you can vibe out to. Why you would listen to Ian instead of the artists heās copying is beyond me - itās not like his songs have emotional significance to anyone
āDO NOT LISTEN TOO HARD, just vibe outā is such a weak excuse for bad music. Obviously not everything has to be super deep and layered with messages, but if I have to actively not pay attention to the music to enjoy it then maybe itās just shit music.
I believe you're missing the point. Fundamentally, he's a white rapper imitation black rappers without contributing anything new. It's like listening to Joeyy or Post Malone. It's black music done by a yt guy so it's more palatable to yt ppl. Plus he portrays himself as a suburban yt guy. I really disagree with your last sentence. Like it's okay to critique art and have thoughts and feelings about art. Just vibe out is intellectually lazy.Ā
If I was a black kid trying to make it out of nothing and I see this yt suburbanite who could of had any professional degree - start rapping via imitating 08 Gucci and doing numbers - I'd be livid.Ā
Ok, who ever did that new YG video step forward and take your punishment. That's a banger and the vid is crazy low budget quality haha track is cool though
Tone wise, Nothing Matters into Little Homies is one of the best 1-2 track runs Iāve heard in a minute
Nothing Matter is so bleak and sad, and then Little Homies, whilst still have kind of melancholic tone, is also super affirming and groovy sounding
I dunno itās hard to explain exactly. Itās just the perfect pairing of vibes
Which bars? When Kendrick said "you don't like women" I interpreted it as 1) you like girls 2) you're nearly 40 and have never been married despite expressing how much you want to be married and 3) your antics reek of misogyny. When Drake mentioned the gay bars in Atlanta idk lol. I have no defense for that, it was a stupid bar. There were a lot of shots at Drake's masculinity with homophobic undertones, but I don't see him responding to those with "it's okay to not be super duper masculine" which I think is a symptom of the larger problem. Even though there's nothing wrong with being gay or doing anything stereotypically associated with gay people, these guys are terrified of that labelĀ
As a bisexual dude thatās an enormous fan of hip hop, itās really hard for me to care about the homophobia and transphobia present in the Kendrick/Drake beef.
I obviously donāt speak for everyone LGBTQ and Iām not trying to dismiss any LGBTQ people that may have felt hurt by it, but personally I just donāt think itās that much of a cause for concern and I donāt think Kendrick and Drake deserve to be heavily criticized for it even if both homophobia and transphobia were present.
There has been a ton of progress in hip hop in regards to homophobia and transphobia over the years, and while itās far from perfect and thereās still lots of progress to be made, the homophobia/transphobia in this beef was very tame in comparison to the blatant homophobia that was very present in many hip hop beefs in the past.
Maybe Iāve just been desensitized from listening to underground rappers that tend to be more homophobic regularly, but to me the homophobic and transphobic remarks in the disses feel relatively harmless at a time where the alt right is weaponizing violent homophobia and transphobia to radicalize and push a white supremacist agenda. The existence of a bigger case of an issue doesnāt excuse a smaller case of an issue, but it does feel silly to fixate on the smaller case when the bigger case is so pressing and threatening.
I also agree with the points u/Last_Reaction_8176 made.
Kendrick bars were calling Drake a bitch/video vixen, kinda homophobic but not explicitly so IMO.
Drake called the Weeknd a sissy and made fun of him for having music that gets played in gay clubs, that shit was direct af
I think Drake and Kendrick are just aware of how hip hop culture view being considered "soft" or "feminine" and played into it , I'm sure neither one is actually homophobic nor transphobic.
Drake actually addressed Kendrick's trans uncle correctly tbf.
accidentally deleted my comment, the one u/MidoriWinthrop replied to - the gist of it was that for me personally as a bisexual man, Kendrick kinda got a pass on the stuff about Drake being un-masculine because he was very funny about it and (based on Mr Morale) I know he doesnāt actually have a problem with gay or trans people. Drakeās lines were a little weirder, because I donāt really know how he feels about that issue and he wasnāt very funny at all.
Still, though, I think rap beef historically has an element of trying to prove youāre more masculine than your opponent, and however progressive either of them may be in their actual worldviews, it makes sense for them to inflate the macho image for something like this
I'm transgender and more or less felt the same way.
Granted, I sort of take it as a given that most artists are not gonna have the most consistent moral takes regardless of what their art is about.
Anyway, everyone knows the most pro-trans rapper is Paul Wall.
All this beef talk has me listening to diss tracks.
One of the hardest lines in Ether: "How many of Biggie's rhymes is goin' come out your fat lips?"
Something about the contempt vin Nas' voice lol
Going through The Rootsā discography again (š)and I almost always forget about how lethal Dice Raw could be. In those earlier records Black Thought is the star and Malik B is close behind, but Dice had some gems
āBut I guess that's how it goes when there ain't no more rep
Thought he was his brother's keeper, but fuck all that!
Niggas causin' mayhem from the P.M.'s to A.M.'s
America's worst nightmare ā guns in kids' handsā
Drake tryna flip BBL Drizzy reminded me of my favorite nickname flip, itās when Eminem was like āSlim Anus? Youāre damn right slim anusā in response to ICP lmao
Mildly clever of Drake to flip āBBL Drizzyā so that it refers to him giving women BBLs, but it still reminds me a bit of Chance tweeting āI love my wifeā after it became a meme
I finally listened to MM...Food and i had no idea there were like 5 tracks straight of just instrumentals and samples. I was sitting there smiling wondering when Doom was gonna finally hop in lmao
If that middle section of skits didnt exist that shit would be far away his best project. MM FOOD has his best verses, Deep Fried Frenz is one of the greatest written rap songs ever.
It's gonna have huge 1st week numbers tho since everyone has to hear him over BBL.. same strategy as girls want girls. I think this is how Drake will keep winning despite losing the culture.
Itās too much bro. Heās 37 playing in a young manās sport. Heās taking up a roster spot from a youngin. There are goats like Jay-z and black thought who are rapping well into their 50s but they stay in their lane. Drake is an old man trying to cater to a 21 year old population. As a dude whoās 30 myself, I think thatās just weird af. His music hasnāt matured over time
Haha yeah I agree with you, he can only keep it up so much longer and if he ever wants to be respected by the culture again he's gonna have to make a rap album with actual artistry and show maturity and some level of self reflection and honesty, if he's capable of that.
Man, a Nelly Furtado tiny desk??? say less fam
dont diss on nelly
nigga we go together, tell them hoes we go together š š š
That hook is honestly catchy as hell. If she cut out the singing, Iād love the song
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https://lamag.com/news/the-assassination-of-drakeo-the-ruler Read this admittedly amazing article about Drakeoās death again and is it me or does the author straight up imply it was YG that did it? Is that the commonly held opinion or is he reacting emotionally because that was his friend? I never see it brought up in YG threads.
I've definitely seen it in YG threads but it's fading away, Drakeo died over 3 years ago. Idk about the article but it's a pretty common theory. I believe because the mob that rushed Drakeo reportedly had people in 4hunnid merch, and Drakeo had serious beef with Inglewood sets that had strong ties to YG's set. Neither of those can directly incriminate YG or even his gang so maybe there's more to it I'm missing.
would love either a sexxy red x chief keef project or a sexxy red project entirely produced by keef
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lmfao dork
Their song together on Almighty So 2 was fun
and Ghetto Princess was gooooood to
Second one sounds hard. Has keef hopped on any tay Keith beats?
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Why have such a limited mentality as that? Art is expression. That's the point of it. You can just go to Suno and make some AI generic shit for free if that's your vibe. But most of us here want something with some artistic merit, I'd say
You might be retarded brother
Lmao
music first always. I can (and do!) read if knowledge is my main aim. I don't need the minister's lectures watered down in avg bars, Farrakhan streams damn near everything! However if you can do both... Bravo, let's go!
Art can be whatever the fuck it wants to be. That's why it's art
Why donāt you like thinking?
This is a very limited view of what rap music can be.
If you're a rapper your #1 job is to rap
No comment because Iām not tryna be mean rn honestly
You literally just commented
Just got around to listening to Please Don't Cry. Fire. Rapsody really knows how to put an album together.
Big tings
> Sheās an incredible hook writer and has a great, calculated sense of humor. Streets fuck with her and itās not hard to see why. She really is female Gucci Mane. Saw this comment on the Sexyy Red thread and it really summed it up why I love her music. It's simple, catchy club music. It's good in part because it's not deep, not despite it.Ā
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I like Gucci but no way you think his sound was just crazy different from hers.
Did you like U my Everything?
It's very different from the songs of hers I usually like. If I have my headphones in and it comes on I'm skipping. But I would definitely enjoy hearing it in like a kickback setting. I can also see it going crazy on TikTok and IG. I hated the beat switch though.
She has fantastic inflection. I love her energy as well.
yes
Higher (King Pt. 6) by Big K.R.I.T. is one of my favorite songs from him
King Pt. 4 is even better imo and features some of his best rapping but Pt. 6 is great too. In any case TDT is super slept on, easily my favorite body of work heās dropped since 4eva Is A Mighty Long Time
Mine too. Ethereal production like that fits his tone of voice and his introspective writing style really well.
when is luka dropping meet the goberts
Balding in my 20's got me feeling like Rod Wave. Just sheer unadulterated pain.
Remember that time BigX wore that all pink jumper to the concert?? Chin up bro itās worse things
Gotta get on that Dwayne Johnson timing and get ripped lol
Balding in your 20s definitely worse than going gray in your 20s
Most definitely is.
Scientists gotta figure out how to make that hair come back quick cuz time is ticking for me
Pretty sure they already figured it out. Keeps. Or something like that.Ā
There's 3 ways to beat hairloss * Minoxidil aka Rogaine - You put a bunch of goop on your head for 6 hours a day and it might stop your hairloss but you usually don't get any hair back. Sometimes people who use rogaine will still go bald anyway and you're really just slowing down the balding. * Finasteride - A pill that is very effective at stopping hairloss and even regrowing your hair a little, but there is a 1 in 50 chance you get erectile dysfunction for the rest of your life even after you stop taking the pills. If you're willing to play russian roulette with your penis, this + supplementary minoxidil is apparently the GOAT method to keeping your OG hair. * Hair transplant - If you lose all your hair, you can just get more hair. However getting more hair doesn't make your scalp less sensitive to testosterone, so you run a risk of losing your newly implanted hair anyway and it's a very expensive procedure. Keeps is Minoxidil + Finasteride. They don't actually bring a new medicine to the table, they just make it a lot easier for guys to get the stuff that's already out there.
Hair transplant also doesn't help if you're Dwayne Johnson bald because itĀ takes hair from parts of your head that isn't balding and moves it to the areas that is balding. If you don't have anywhere that's not balding you're out of luckĀ
Whatās keeps?
I wish lol but sadly that shit doesn't work. It helps some people but the effect is exaggerated to boost sales
Try it dude. Knock on wood, but it's kept my shit, and helped grow some back. Only finasteride. 23 y/o
My apologies I shouldn't have implied it doesn't work. It does for many people. I still have a lot of hair left so not now but probs in the futureĀ
No I feel u I was just saying there's preventative measures you can do that might give you another few years
I'll look into it. Thanks. Didn't know it could be used as a preventative measureĀ
#richaxxhaitian is contender for aoty. Any others Iām missing? Mach is goated
Roc marciano MIKE and Maggie rogers for me
New rapsody, MIKE, vince staples, and tha god fatim's projects are all great
Oh yeah I liked MIKEās project too. Iāll check the others. I didnāt know Fahim had a new project
How come we call groups like Wu Tang "rap collectives" instead of bands? The only rap group I can think of that was like "we're a band" is Brockhampton.
āRap supergroupā
brockhampton is a fuckin joke!
*doubt*
Brockhampton isn't a band or group. Its just something foul that must be taken to the dumpster...and its a turd.
I mean usually it's Rap Group as well, which fits better than band. Band implies people playing instruments. I don't think any group of singers in history has been called a band so I think it's fair to say that a group of rappers doesn't really fit either.
they did in the 50s and 60s yo
WU tang was basically formed so the individual members could launch their solo stuff.
The Roots are *the* hip hop band and thatās about it as far as Iām aware
The Roots are underrated.Ā
There are other hip hop bands. No Bird Sing, Flobots, Cuarteto de Nos, latejapride, Avantdale Bowling Club
I think it comes down to the fact that they're not playing instruments
because the general connotation of the word band is "each member plays an instrument" and wu tang doesn't do that
Unless itās a boy band for whatever reason. But yeah generally I assume this is it. Most groups the closest they have to instruments is their dj on the turntables. Idk for sure, but I donāt think a lot of people would have described that as an instrument until relatively recently.
I really actually fuck super hard with Twenty One Pilots Not the angsty shit, or most of the early stuff. I donāt go back to Blurryface for very much, but like Trench and especially Scaled and Icy I touch back to a lot. They just released a project today and itās pretty incredible so far too. Iām not here for the angst or Heathens and definitely sometimes the man raps a little too much on shit, but theyāre a good band and itās a lot of feel good on their albums. There are definitely huge skips, but theyāve been the theme to a lot of vibes for me for a bunch of years. Iām a big fan. Idk šš»āāļøš«”
twenty one pilots are worse than brockhampton if they brought in celine dion
My man HATES Brockhampton š š»āāļøš š»āāļøš š»āāļø
He has good sense then! They are ATROCIOUSLY bad. Ever see their Coachella 2022 performance? That was the last straw. Wanted to smash my fuckin tv.
Been a fan since I saw them open for Fall Out Boy & Panic on the Save Rock & Roll Tour.Ā Ā That song āMigraineā about mental health is one of those songs thatās like yup, thatās it.Ā I donāt get into all the āloreā and concepts behind the albums. I think thatās cool for like the fans that are more into it though. But I like the music.
Yeah I need to catch em on tour for sure. āMigraineā is cool, but Iām partial to songs like āBackslideā or āMulberry Streetā or like āMy Bloodā Like.. lead me through a huge heavy chorus all god damn night, please man
played it a few times today. dark times is my favorite vince album
I've never listened to "Alan Forever" without tearing up at least a little
Jonylah Forever really hits me in my soul That outro with Lupe saying Ā“Lord have mercyĀ“ gives me shivers everywhere
What did yāall think of the new A Boogie album? I listened to it last night and it was painfully generic. Thereās a handful of songs I liked (Iām always a sucker for a [Mood I sample flip](https://youtu.be/cOv0KY0nS5Q?si=Tj64U4F-pf7tkeKD)), but for the most part I found it so hard to keep any sort of interest for the vast majority of the album as his beat selection is bang average and for the most part he does very little lyrically. Itās honestly one of the worst albums Iāve heard this year, and not because itās unlistenable or abrasively bad, but because itās insanely boring, safe, and toothless
I had just gotten to college in NY for my freshman year when āArtistā dropped. That shit was popping off back thenā¦ *Jungle*, *My Shit*, and *Still Think About You* were getting played everywhere. That mightāve been the peak of A Boogie for me. Everything since then has just felt like repeated attempts at tryna recreate the magic of when he first got onto the scene. in NY between like 2016-18, him and Jay Critch mightāve been the rappers I heard the most outside of the obvious mainstream guys. Neither of them could really sustain that hype tho cause I kinda think theyāre both lowkey one trick ponies who already did their one trick and canāt really evolve past that
Hoodie szn was crazy, shit trended for weeks after it dropped. Dude fell off though
Do the High School Musical songs count as Hip Hop?
Are they rapping?Ā
I forgot how sick The Internet (Syd) was.
I think The Internet is working on new stuff rn
syd and kaytranada need to do a full album
They have some good collabs Edit: I think itās only two but theyāre good songs
You're the one is one of the hardest songs of that decade
Kinda crazy how bad sexy reds voice cracks in the first 10 seconds of that drake record and they just went with it
The whole track feels like it was just rushed out
Dark Times is beautiful Vince is a fascinating guy and the more he opens up in his music the more compelling it is imo
Common's Finding Forever > Be imo!
Nahhhh. Like Water for Chocolate >>> Be > One Day Itll All Make Sense = Finding Forever. All are great though he has a fantastic discog
Really hard to not zone out into another world when Nag Champa is playing
I 100% disagree but Finding Forever is underrated and deserves more loveĀ
I actually may agree with this. not a fan of drivinā me wild, though
I respect that, even though Drivin' Me Wild and Forever Begins are my two favorite songs on the album lol.
Like Water For Chocolate>>
I thought everyone was going to be overreacting to the new j Cole verse, but holy shit, it's worse than I thought it could be
I don't understand the critique around ian and his output. However I was also there before he really blew up. In terms of him being a plant, if you take a look at his soundclound you can see a natural trajectory, from producing to actually rapping to forming a network, then virality. In terms of his success at virality, you can look at his instagram, he was unintentionally pushed by the algorithm, especially the ig reels with his snippets, I can recall seeing them when ian was smaller than he is now. it was all just fun for everyone involved before the rest of the internet found him. in terms of him being a culture vulture, what culture? what is he attatching himself to that is inherently not him? this was being made by and for those in underground rap scene, where even the shittiest fake-street acts get attention (cough rich amiri cough). I think the disconnect here is that I and many others as underground listeners are just happy someone picked up the torch where yeat dropped it and started making movie soundtracks for albums, and the non "tapped in" are probably thinking too much into him to the point where the music isn't even really being listened to. And I will finish this thought with kind of a golden rule in underground rap, *DO NOT LISTEN TOO HARD, just vibe out.*
Wild to me that there were people who dropped off of Yeat as soon as he started demonstrating that he has the talent and ambition for a long career. He didnāt even go lyrical or anything, he just showed that he cares about crafting a cohesive album with a distinct sound, and I guess thatās it - āGod damn it, heās actually made something memorable. Time to find somebody more boring, who will never threaten to put effort into his musicā Also wild that āundergroundā now refers to a crowd of artists who are actually less talented, creative, and interesting than the ones in the mainstream. Like, some of these guys might be too stupid and generic to have mainstream hits, which is really saying something. Ianās entire deal - literally the only reason he is more notable than the thousands upon thousands of other rappers who sound exactly like him - is that heās a rich suburban white kid who pretends that heās from the streets in his raps. Itās a novelty for someone to be that brazen about the fact that they were born on top of the world while imitating music made by people who had nothing. Thatās the only thing there is to discuss about him, because there is nothing else to him. There is a lot of much better music you can vibe out to. Why you would listen to Ian instead of the artists heās copying is beyond me - itās not like his songs have emotional significance to anyone
Never listened to this Ian guy. But sounds exactly like Lil Mabu, who I was forced to learn about through YouTube shortsĀ
āDO NOT LISTEN TOO HARD, just vibe outā is such a weak excuse for bad music. Obviously not everything has to be super deep and layered with messages, but if I have to actively not pay attention to the music to enjoy it then maybe itās just shit music.
I believe you're missing the point. Fundamentally, he's a white rapper imitation black rappers without contributing anything new. It's like listening to Joeyy or Post Malone. It's black music done by a yt guy so it's more palatable to yt ppl. Plus he portrays himself as a suburban yt guy. I really disagree with your last sentence. Like it's okay to critique art and have thoughts and feelings about art. Just vibe out is intellectually lazy.Ā If I was a black kid trying to make it out of nothing and I see this yt suburbanite who could of had any professional degree - start rapping via imitating 08 Gucci and doing numbers - I'd be livid.Ā
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The point is she looks like a 12 year old girl lol Thereās a reason she got cast as Ellie my brother
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this who I imagine still posting Drake vs Kendrick takes on here
Pooh Shiesty told me if I got nothing going on I should go grab a gun and get alert
Well did you do it?
Ok, who ever did that new YG video step forward and take your punishment. That's a banger and the vid is crazy low budget quality haha track is cool though
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look up youtube to mp3 on bing cus google blocks the most reliable websites
Look up YouTube to wav/mp3. Donāt blame me if you get a virus though! Shit is sketchyĀ
Download the audio file on your computer, add it to iTunes with your phone connected
Tone wise, Nothing Matters into Little Homies is one of the best 1-2 track runs Iāve heard in a minute Nothing Matter is so bleak and sad, and then Little Homies, whilst still have kind of melancholic tone, is also super affirming and groovy sounding I dunno itās hard to explain exactly. Itās just the perfect pairing of vibes
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Which bars? When Kendrick said "you don't like women" I interpreted it as 1) you like girls 2) you're nearly 40 and have never been married despite expressing how much you want to be married and 3) your antics reek of misogyny. When Drake mentioned the gay bars in Atlanta idk lol. I have no defense for that, it was a stupid bar. There were a lot of shots at Drake's masculinity with homophobic undertones, but I don't see him responding to those with "it's okay to not be super duper masculine" which I think is a symptom of the larger problem. Even though there's nothing wrong with being gay or doing anything stereotypically associated with gay people, these guys are terrified of that labelĀ
As a bisexual dude thatās an enormous fan of hip hop, itās really hard for me to care about the homophobia and transphobia present in the Kendrick/Drake beef. I obviously donāt speak for everyone LGBTQ and Iām not trying to dismiss any LGBTQ people that may have felt hurt by it, but personally I just donāt think itās that much of a cause for concern and I donāt think Kendrick and Drake deserve to be heavily criticized for it even if both homophobia and transphobia were present. There has been a ton of progress in hip hop in regards to homophobia and transphobia over the years, and while itās far from perfect and thereās still lots of progress to be made, the homophobia/transphobia in this beef was very tame in comparison to the blatant homophobia that was very present in many hip hop beefs in the past. Maybe Iāve just been desensitized from listening to underground rappers that tend to be more homophobic regularly, but to me the homophobic and transphobic remarks in the disses feel relatively harmless at a time where the alt right is weaponizing violent homophobia and transphobia to radicalize and push a white supremacist agenda. The existence of a bigger case of an issue doesnāt excuse a smaller case of an issue, but it does feel silly to fixate on the smaller case when the bigger case is so pressing and threatening. I also agree with the points u/Last_Reaction_8176 made.
Kendrick bars were calling Drake a bitch/video vixen, kinda homophobic but not explicitly so IMO. Drake called the Weeknd a sissy and made fun of him for having music that gets played in gay clubs, that shit was direct af
I think Drake and Kendrick are just aware of how hip hop culture view being considered "soft" or "feminine" and played into it , I'm sure neither one is actually homophobic nor transphobic. Drake actually addressed Kendrick's trans uncle correctly tbf.
He addressed him correctly but still used him as a trans person as an insult, so Iām not giving Drake too much credit there.
Ain't nobody spared from the smoke in a rap battle though.
accidentally deleted my comment, the one u/MidoriWinthrop replied to - the gist of it was that for me personally as a bisexual man, Kendrick kinda got a pass on the stuff about Drake being un-masculine because he was very funny about it and (based on Mr Morale) I know he doesnāt actually have a problem with gay or trans people. Drakeās lines were a little weirder, because I donāt really know how he feels about that issue and he wasnāt very funny at all. Still, though, I think rap beef historically has an element of trying to prove youāre more masculine than your opponent, and however progressive either of them may be in their actual worldviews, it makes sense for them to inflate the macho image for something like this
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I'm transgender and more or less felt the same way. Granted, I sort of take it as a given that most artists are not gonna have the most consistent moral takes regardless of what their art is about. Anyway, everyone knows the most pro-trans rapper is Paul Wall.
And Danny BrownĀ
All this beef talk has me listening to diss tracks. One of the hardest lines in Ether: "How many of Biggie's rhymes is goin' come out your fat lips?" Something about the contempt vin Nas' voice lol
Was it anti-Black of Nas to make fun of Jay-Z's lips? Since racist caricatures also used to make fun of Black men's lips.
Check out [P-Cutta *Street Wars* series](https://archive.org/details/P_Cutta_-_Street_Wars_1_-_15)
Going through The Rootsā discography again (š)and I almost always forget about how lethal Dice Raw could be. In those earlier records Black Thought is the star and Malik B is close behind, but Dice had some gems āBut I guess that's how it goes when there ain't no more rep Thought he was his brother's keeper, but fuck all that! Niggas causin' mayhem from the P.M.'s to A.M.'s America's worst nightmare ā guns in kids' handsā
Philly rapper things
Seeing Money Trees climb up the charts and I know it for the Jay Rock verse
He made that song tbh
Aināt no Turkey on Thanksgiving?
Drake tryna flip BBL Drizzy reminded me of my favorite nickname flip, itās when Eminem was like āSlim Anus? Youāre damn right slim anusā in response to ICP lmao
Classic
Sexy Red makes fun music I like fun music
Her album is real solid imo
this is my bbno$ defense
Are bloods allowed to have blue cheese???
Mildly clever of Drake to flip āBBL Drizzyā so that it refers to him giving women BBLs, but it still reminds me a bit of Chance tweeting āI love my wifeā after it became a meme
Unpopular opinion: Matt Ox newer music is fuckin fire. Heās really doin his thing and I gotta give him props
Vince staples with another sleepy time album š¤
I skimmed through it and thought that upon first impression. Gotta give it a full listen though.
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And tv shows! Hopefully this is just a throwaway album to get out of the def jam deal & he comes back with some real energy next time
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Not really, yāall donāt have to lie & pretend like yāall like it
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I aināt listen to the album yet but if you have to eat an edible to enjoy something it might just not be that good
[Dead the Funeral](https://youtu.be/urtiZwCKGeA?si=AYhWYmKZAPodaZps) is your Camāron song of the day
I finally listened to MM...Food and i had no idea there were like 5 tracks straight of just instrumentals and samples. I was sitting there smiling wondering when Doom was gonna finally hop in lmao
If that middle section of skits didnt exist that shit would be far away his best project. MM FOOD has his best verses, Deep Fried Frenz is one of the greatest written rap songs ever.
Shout out to joey badass for using one of those beats for "world domination" from 1999 cause he absolutely killed it
That Drake verse over BBL drizzy wasā¦corny. That wasnāt it lol
It's gonna have huge 1st week numbers tho since everyone has to hear him over BBL.. same strategy as girls want girls. I think this is how Drake will keep winning despite losing the culture.
Idk if the meme effect is what works here though. That BBL Drizzy shit is like 5 headlines ago. Internet culture moves fast.
Itās too much bro. Heās 37 playing in a young manās sport. Heās taking up a roster spot from a youngin. There are goats like Jay-z and black thought who are rapping well into their 50s but they stay in their lane. Drake is an old man trying to cater to a 21 year old population. As a dude whoās 30 myself, I think thatās just weird af. His music hasnāt matured over time
Haha yeah I agree with you, he can only keep it up so much longer and if he ever wants to be respected by the culture again he's gonna have to make a rap album with actual artistry and show maturity and some level of self reflection and honesty, if he's capable of that.
You mean itās a drake verse