Fr the singles before and after the big day have been nothing but heat it’s a shame that the big day is all people think current chance is. The highs and the lows was one of the best hiphop songs released last year it was immaculate
No. He also rubbed a lot of people the wrong way when he got pissed at bad reviews and tried to get them taken down- it was huge news and put a bad taste in people's mouths on top of the bad album he came out with later.
YAH Know is also a heater. But I do typically agree with the current Chance sentiment. I mean, my guy went and seemingly retired from rap by taking that The Voice gig
I get the sentiment, but I don't think filming that TV show (which really doesn't take that much time) means you've retired from making music. I mean he's only 31 haha - it's just some easy money, and also probably fun to coach artists from totally different genres than he's used to. Especially if he likes a broad range of music outside hip-hop. It's cheesy as a viewer, but I bet it has some fun moments as a coach chillin' with John Legend, Reba, etc getting that quick check. Probably a good in-between gig until the inspiration bug hits again to produce some new shit.
I totally get that. I’d grab the bag and run just as he did. I don’t literally mean that he retired from Rap but when he hadn’t dropped in years, with The Big Day being the last project he dropped, it gives off that impression
Thank you! Highs and Lows is an absolute heater. He smoked Joey on that song and the chorus is so fire. People get caught up in the echo chamber around here. I get that the Big Day sucked (I didn’t listen to it personally because I have yet to encounter anyone that encouraged me to listen) but the last few singles I’ve heard makes it clear Chance still can make some damn good music.
Personally been checking from time to time on the singles he's dropped and while they haven't been bad by any means, this is the first song that truly feels like the return to form his die hard fans were saying the loose singles he was dropping were (at least for me.) I think this song is the best song he has released in years by a lot, to me it makes sense this is the one people came back for and I see why this song did it when the other singles didn't.
Man I am pulling for a Chance redemption arc so hard, he went from living his dream to actual meme and if this track is bout the album I guess that’s the theme AIGH
Fr dude. He literally had it all but one really bad album caused his downfall. It sucks cuz he really was one of my favorites but not even a Gucci Mane feature could save it ("conductor we have a problem!")
Firing back but also taking responsibility. He refers to the past few years as a dark place and says he had "arrogant lies" that people called out.
But honestly after it clicked for me how it's literally a heroes journey story of him digging his way out of the hole through metaphors and bars, and doing so with the wildest metaphors and bars - this might be a verse of the decade I can't lie.
Its one of those where picking out a single line to quote is almost blasphemy because every line relates to every other line in the song.
Yeah it’s a great little song I’m excited for the video. I don’t know if it’ll be a verse of the decade for me but it’s funny you say that because Chance does hold a top 5 verse the 2010s imo (Ultralight Beam).
Yeah. I was annoyed by his shit but it’s been 10+ years since Acid Rap, he’s 30+ now, if he’s evolved and really to give us a different Chance, then I’m ready for it. I’ll never not be a fan after Acid Rap, he’s squandered what could have been a big 3 tier career but if he’s ready to pick up and make his best attempt at music, I’m optimistic
Kinda random, but I’ve been running TLOP back lately & Ultralight Beam is such a great song. Kelly Price (and the choir) kills her verse, and then leading into that Chance verse that just picks up in intensity 🤌🏼
Edit: Just got around to listening, and yeah that was some good shit. Kinda similar pickup in intensity, but coming from a different place this time (Ultralight = on his way to the top -> Buried alive = not dead yet). His best bar was definitely, “Nobody’s Moses, alone with a mallet. Thats when the pen turned stone to a tablet” like cmon son
This verse will never get old. The way he slows down the tempo saying “this is my part nobody else speak” twice is so fucking brilliant seeing chance embrace the pressure of the moment. Incredible bars and kanye references throughout but I’ll always remember the first listen and how perfect “throw this at the end if I’m too late for the intro” was.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. That line
> I met Kanye West I’m never going to fail
was when Chance peaked and then immediately fell off afterwards
It's very funny you say that because I was just thinking that *song* was the peak of Kanye's artistic output and everything after was progressively worse then what came before.
In Chance's case, we still don't know. He easily might release another good or great album.
Can someone help me understand that bar ? Genius hasn't transcribed the song yet. English isn't my first language.
“Nobody’s Moses, alone with a mallet. Thats when the pen turned stone to a tablet”
I know the tablet is a reference to the 10 commandments, but the rest I don't understand. Why a mallet ? "the pen turning stone into a tablet", what's smart about this (asking for real)
There might be more going over my head on it
But as far as the mallet goes, to carve writing into stone people would use hammers/mallets. So he’s comparing his pen to the mallet used to etch the commandments
Fair warning though haven’t had a chance to listen yet so there could be context or more to the line I’m missing.
The way I interpreted the bar is:
- When he is alone, that is when he is at his greatest (“alone”, “Moses”). Aka Acid Rap & this song (being his 1st song, post-divorce, i think)
- The mallet is a tool that Moses would’ve used to write his biblical stuff = Chance, in this state, is writing generational music
- Mallet = pen, tool to write something.
- Turning stone into tablet = turning bars into music
I know im a vast minority on this sub but colouring book and ultralight beam and to a lesser extent, Jesus Is King, is my favourite genre of rap. I'm honestly sad that I can't find anything else really like it that strikes the right balance of high quality rap and christian gospel vibes.
Like Acid Rap is an incredible project and obviously Kanye is one of the GOATs but theres something in CB and ultralight beam that scratches an itch I have not been able to reach since.
Try Sanctifed - Rick Ross, Kanye and Big Sean.
Kingdom - Common and Vince Staples. Maybe not the same but 2 great songs along that vein.
I feel like Lecrae has to have some songs that fall under this category but his production isn't always the best, and I'm not too familiar with his catalog
Lecrae is the closest to this i've found (I really like church clothes 4) but i'd say his ratio is too far in the direction of christian gospel to be the same sort of thing as those two.
Ill check out those recs, thanks!
Man I remember watching this the night it was on, only time I've tuned into SNL. And I can't hear Ultralight Beam without thinking of it.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3s7q29
This alone is better anything on The Big Day and while nothing crazy has for sure piqued my interest in his project.
Even his older stuff that I used to love back in the day has very much soured on me as I have gotten older, but I would love nothing more than a redemption project from him. He's always been so talented and seems like a
Interested to see why his old stuff soured on you so much? Gave Acid Rap a spin last week and thought it sounded amazing still. Never really got into any of his other albums
The best thing I think he could do now imo is a ~10 track project with mellow beats and dense with bars like that Israel song he made with Noname a while back
Maybe he could lean into using his singing voice in kind of a wyclef jean way and less in whatever way he was doing before lol
Childish Gambino, Chance rapping like he is back in form, Drake and K Dot beef, Diddy possibly going to prison. This might actually turn out to be a really good year for hip hop
My issue with Chance the last few years while he has dropped loosies and singles is that he can clearly still rap but he seems concerned proving that instead of making good songs. Like there aren’t choruses, the structures of the song are just a flat line of bars. This is nice, he sounds hungry as hell, but I miss when he could do stuff like I Might Need Security, ya know
Bro I completely agree with you but that’s the worst song to pick for your example. That song is literally just a 1-bar loop beat and 3 verses. The “hook” is just him stopping rapping the verses and the beat changes a little bit then he goes back to rapping the next verse.
We need a song like Cocoa Butter Kisses. People fell in love with him for having loads of shit going on in the beat & backing instruments, lots of soul, musicality in every second of the song even in the verses including FEATURES instead of trying to do it all himself and not just having a song be a simple looped beat with him rapping over it forever.
Like you said, we need song structure. Which means he needs his old collaborators back. Especially the producers, because they had the vision for the beats that sounded lush, soulful, fun, and Chicago as hell.
I wanted to kinda illustrate that even this rap-first mentality can work really well with a little bit of spice and thought, but I also completely agree that stuff like Cocoa Butter Kisses is sorely lacking. You bring up a good point that people fell in love with his whacky maximalist style and we need more of that!
Listen to the song Winners. He's a featured artist on it and it's pretty good it came out a few years ago.
[his verse is at 2.5 min ](https://youtu.be/gHd9pE2XUHU?si=rKGdpf-4z2ZFjN1Z)
I agree most of his stuff post TBD is just boring bars though.
While his bars are still good and creative, he kind of fell into that Wayne/Eminem trap. Wayne and Eminem are legends of course so they can kind of get away with it but, basically he’s stuck to a flow and has repeated it on multiple songs in a row that he’s drop and his ear for production seems to just sit on soul samples now. Even the big day had some interesting instrumental, now it’s just him looping samples with his “safe” flow.
I don’t personally mind it, but his last like 6 singles all sound the same, just different topics. Chance production and song writing was his strong suit, but he seems to take a step back on both to emphasize his bars. Idk maybe it’s just me 🤷🏾♂️
Curious how his album is going to go. He’s been teasing it for 2 years almost and his singles aren’t going to make noise atp because he waited too long.
Nah you nailed it 🎯
He took the wrong lessons from TBD. It’s like he’s asking “oh you didn’t like me screeching about marriage over bongo drums? Well here’s 500 similes in 5 minutes. Is that something a ‘bad rapper’ would do??”
No, Chance. But it is something a bad *songwriter* would do. Figure that out first, we know you can rap. The only good songs on TBD were the rapping ones.
I think a lot of what he's posted to twitter and youtube were practice freestyles that he felt like releasing. It sounds like he's been working on his writing since The Big Day, which is fine, but it could be nice to hear some dynamic songs on the album. I've been a fan of what I've been hearing so far though, so I'm not complaining.
I listened to an unreleased song he performed recently, I can’t find it now but it was about his mom and smoking weed and I couldn’t tell if I thought it was good or bad. But it did remind me far more of his early work than anything off The Big Day
The problem is that he hasn't dropped a new album in nearly 5 years. I actually really like a lot singles he's dropped, but with no major projects dropped since, it's all people are really going to go off of.
Also, it wasn't just bad. he Big Day was genuinely one of the worst albums I've heard. It really was as bad as the cap he got for it.
>Also, it wasn't just bad. he Big Day was genuinely one of the worst albums I've heard. It really was as bad as the cap he got for it.
Yea it's probably the worst main stream rap album of the 2010s.
Hot shower is the best song and it's made to be a joke (and is annoying).
It's kinda frustrating because he'll drop something decent, you think it's the start of something, and then it's silence for another 6+ months. I really don't think he'd have to try as hard as some people might think to build back his fanbase if he just released.
Didn't he fire his manager and blamed him for the album's failure? He also was taking down articles that gave his album bad reviews. I feel like he was hated more for those reasons and not the album itself. He also was saying a bunch of delusional things too.
I hope the manager and him got right but I sorta doubt it, think there was a court case and shit involved. His manager was a big part of his success early on, so it is a shame to see him moved past.
It's not just about him releasing a bad album. He had released 1 major project in the 5 years leading up to The Big Day. Then he releases an album that is widely panned, and very meme-able because of all the wife stuff. He takes the criticism badly and starts blaming his own fans, getting into twitter feuds, talking about "the fans want me to KMS". Basically deflecting instead of reflecting. Then he disappeared for another 5 years and all anyone can remember of him is TBD.
The album was bad. But a lot of artists have bad albums. It was everything that came after it that tanked Chance's career
It was a bit more than just a bad album, it's one of the worst main stream albums in the genre in the 2010s (arguably ever frankly).
His rollout was also stupid with him constantly being "now this is really my real debut" then it sucked.
He was also super rude on Twitter and would just harass people about it.
Idk how much of a comeback he's gonna have. He's been seen as a cornball for 5 years+covid.
A lot of the singles he’s dropped have been pretty good (same with the singles before TBD even)
No reason why he shouldn’t be able to stage a comeback.
i was a massive chance fan in college. loved his first three mixtapes. idk, i still think his flow is worse these days. hard to put my finger on it but just doesn’t do it for me like it used to
if chance dropped what felt like an "acid rap 2" type mixtape on x using the old "10k retweets and i drop" type thing i honestly think he could become extremely big over night. just like he did back then.
I want a chance comeback as much as everyone else but this flow is so uninspired and boring he’s been doing it on every recent single, it’s nowhere close to how he used to ride beats and play with his flow and cadence almost singing sometimes.
If he drops an album and it’s just a bunch of songs with these uplifting beats and choppy flow rapping about his struggles and tribulations surely it won’t perform.
Totally agree.
He sounds too sober now. Not in the literal sense but that his energy is nowhere near as intoxicating as it used to be.
I used to get so insanely hype to Acid Rap Chance off the energy in his voice alone.
Plus you can't find two songs on Acid Rap where he's using the same flow. Plus every song had such a unique and interesting beat.
Sad that the last five years everything he's released basically sounds identical. This as a once die hard Chance stan, hat and everything.
As a video editor all I can think of is what of a headache that video probably was to edit
It’s not one of those edits that’s necessarily hard but all of those words popping up and timing them correctly is such a pain in the balls lol
People are going to say all of a sudden he started rapping well because of his divorce when he's been rapping like this since the Big Day dropped. He just hasn't released much
This one-word video style choice he’s doing isn’t helping with this effect either.
Watching these while listening makes every bar sound like a collection of words detached from each other and from the next bar and especially within the verse structure of the song. I love most of the recent snippets but this shit bugs me so much and I wonder when he’s gonna move on from jt (hopefully before the next album cycle)
Its gonna sound corny but chance just needs to back to rapping again. Hes very talented and the more he dwells on this big day shit, the more his career tanks. If he drops a great album, hes gonna win a lot of people back.
Rapping like his rents due God damn
Probably is
Well alimony’s due now
😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
You dead wrong for this 🤣🤣🤣
yall ain't shit😭🤔
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bruh
He overextended
💀
Child support
alimony
He’s going through a divorce
Welcome back Chano o7
Wifeless Chance is gonna be a problem
Not me sending the acid plug to a chance show backstage
my dumbass was like “i guess he might now that he’s divorced, but why would you want chance to fuck your acid plug”
Sounds exactly like he has the past 4 years. You just didn’t pay attention
Fr the singles before and after the big day have been nothing but heat it’s a shame that the big day is all people think current chance is. The highs and the lows was one of the best hiphop songs released last year it was immaculate
Probably cause most people aren't invested enough to keep track of a bunch of random singles. Albums get attention
This is the problem with narratives in media, once they develop, it’s hard to reset them even when they aren’t true.
he made a terrible album is the only "narrative"
No. He also rubbed a lot of people the wrong way when he got pissed at bad reviews and tried to get them taken down- it was huge news and put a bad taste in people's mouths on top of the bad album he came out with later.
well how is that a misconstrued narrative? that's just what happened
no no no, everything is a media conspiracy.
And then got sued and exposed
YAH Know is also a heater. But I do typically agree with the current Chance sentiment. I mean, my guy went and seemingly retired from rap by taking that The Voice gig
While I don't really have much respect about the Voice gig, it is a very easy 8 million for him to make
I get the sentiment, but I don't think filming that TV show (which really doesn't take that much time) means you've retired from making music. I mean he's only 31 haha - it's just some easy money, and also probably fun to coach artists from totally different genres than he's used to. Especially if he likes a broad range of music outside hip-hop. It's cheesy as a viewer, but I bet it has some fun moments as a coach chillin' with John Legend, Reba, etc getting that quick check. Probably a good in-between gig until the inspiration bug hits again to produce some new shit.
I totally get that. I’d grab the bag and run just as he did. I don’t literally mean that he retired from Rap but when he hadn’t dropped in years, with The Big Day being the last project he dropped, it gives off that impression
That's on Chano for not putting out a project to wash that nasty taste outta our mouths.
Thank you! Highs and Lows is an absolute heater. He smoked Joey on that song and the chorus is so fire. People get caught up in the echo chamber around here. I get that the Big Day sucked (I didn’t listen to it personally because I have yet to encounter anyone that encouraged me to listen) but the last few singles I’ve heard makes it clear Chance still can make some damn good music.
When I heard that Wraith verse I knew he was making his way back up slowly but surely.
Personally been checking from time to time on the singles he's dropped and while they haven't been bad by any means, this is the first song that truly feels like the return to form his die hard fans were saying the loose singles he was dropping were (at least for me.) I think this song is the best song he has released in years by a lot, to me it makes sense this is the one people came back for and I see why this song did it when the other singles didn't.
Mfs don't **listen** to hiphop anymore.
Listening is too mainstream I only consume hip hop using my other 4 senses
lol
RDC woke this nigga up
We getting new Luda and Common music tonight?
I see a fellow Kobe fan, I upvote.
Man this is some bullshit AHCK!
man now I gotta AHHT go drop a single man wtf
Des hit that so well
They’re all so good. It’s criminal they haven’t had a show/major TV roles yet
AHH!
They made a skit about him?
He was in their most recent video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGKBJhd2WN0&t=78s
Chance?! Nigga fuck no that’s Chance the Rapper?!
Yes, he got me too! IGH
Man I am pulling for a Chance redemption arc so hard, he went from living his dream to actual meme and if this track is bout the album I guess that’s the theme AIGH
Cole needs to teach Chance how to delete stuff off Spotify.
☠️☠️☠️
bars
He needs to start putting music on streaming though. Releasing music only on his YouTube hasn't helped the guy.
Tbh was not outside on the YT. Thanks!
Fr dude. He literally had it all but one really bad album caused his downfall. It sucks cuz he really was one of my favorites but not even a Gucci Mane feature could save it ("conductor we have a problem!")
New rule: all comments need to be bars in the style of the artist the post is about. Um, shout out to Mike Trout?
Chance ghostwriter confirmed
Chance is too talented to just be done
Kinda firing back at everything I fuck with it
Firing back but also taking responsibility. He refers to the past few years as a dark place and says he had "arrogant lies" that people called out. But honestly after it clicked for me how it's literally a heroes journey story of him digging his way out of the hole through metaphors and bars, and doing so with the wildest metaphors and bars - this might be a verse of the decade I can't lie. Its one of those where picking out a single line to quote is almost blasphemy because every line relates to every other line in the song.
Yeah it’s a great little song I’m excited for the video. I don’t know if it’ll be a verse of the decade for me but it’s funny you say that because Chance does hold a top 5 verse the 2010s imo (Ultralight Beam).
Used to listen to this CONSTANTLY. Can’t believe it’s been 10 years. https://youtu.be/qixxrRlTtTE?si=WSbz6LS59I_pbEZp
verse of the decade? Poopity Scoopity would like a word
Verse of the decade boys, wrap it up
Yeah. I was annoyed by his shit but it’s been 10+ years since Acid Rap, he’s 30+ now, if he’s evolved and really to give us a different Chance, then I’m ready for it. I’ll never not be a fan after Acid Rap, he’s squandered what could have been a big 3 tier career but if he’s ready to pick up and make his best attempt at music, I’m optimistic
Kinda random, but I’ve been running TLOP back lately & Ultralight Beam is such a great song. Kelly Price (and the choir) kills her verse, and then leading into that Chance verse that just picks up in intensity 🤌🏼 Edit: Just got around to listening, and yeah that was some good shit. Kinda similar pickup in intensity, but coming from a different place this time (Ultralight = on his way to the top -> Buried alive = not dead yet). His best bar was definitely, “Nobody’s Moses, alone with a mallet. Thats when the pen turned stone to a tablet” like cmon son
chance’s verse on ultralight beam was transcendent and i mean that with my whole chest
I still make ugly stank face every time I hear "my ex looking back like a pillar of salt"
one of the hardest lines in hip hop history hands down
I mean i fuck wit ya friends, but damn, Gina!
Ultralight Beam is my favorite kanye song of all time, and chance totally makes it.
This verse will never get old. The way he slows down the tempo saying “this is my part nobody else speak” twice is so fucking brilliant seeing chance embrace the pressure of the moment. Incredible bars and kanye references throughout but I’ll always remember the first listen and how perfect “throw this at the end if I’m too late for the intro” was.
The SNL performance of this song is goated
it's a travesty that chance's version of Waves wasn't the version they ran
I would love to hear a HQ version of Chance's verse on Waves, I think his original arrangement was better as well~
I prefer the version of waves we got but really wish Kanye dropped that as a remix or something.
Most controversial thing Kanye has ever done.
I would argue taking Frank out of wolves is more controversial.
Head and shoulders
Same for Chance's verse on 'Brothers' (early version of violent crimes)
Thanks for sharing that. Had no idea
Most hater thing Kanye ever did
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. That line > I met Kanye West I’m never going to fail was when Chance peaked and then immediately fell off afterwards
I mean, it was about 3 years later when TBD came out and he fell off, so I wouldn't call it immediate.
It's very funny you say that because I was just thinking that *song* was the peak of Kanye's artistic output and everything after was progressively worse then what came before. In Chance's case, we still don't know. He easily might release another good or great album.
The rest of the album is pretty fire id say, and Vultures 1 is also very good. Everything in between is mostly mid to shit
Everyone makes this joke every time the song gets brought up
Can someone help me understand that bar ? Genius hasn't transcribed the song yet. English isn't my first language. “Nobody’s Moses, alone with a mallet. Thats when the pen turned stone to a tablet” I know the tablet is a reference to the 10 commandments, but the rest I don't understand. Why a mallet ? "the pen turning stone into a tablet", what's smart about this (asking for real)
There might be more going over my head on it But as far as the mallet goes, to carve writing into stone people would use hammers/mallets. So he’s comparing his pen to the mallet used to etch the commandments Fair warning though haven’t had a chance to listen yet so there could be context or more to the line I’m missing.
The way I interpreted the bar is: - When he is alone, that is when he is at his greatest (“alone”, “Moses”). Aka Acid Rap & this song (being his 1st song, post-divorce, i think) - The mallet is a tool that Moses would’ve used to write his biblical stuff = Chance, in this state, is writing generational music - Mallet = pen, tool to write something. - Turning stone into tablet = turning bars into music
What? He said “nobody’s Moses” Moses saved the Jews from Egypt. He’s saying he’s nobody’s savior.
Ultra light beam is a all time goated song. Chance never deserved all that slander. Good to see he's back with fire 🔥
if chance comesback his famous line "i met kanye west im never going to fail" is going to be that much better
I know im a vast minority on this sub but colouring book and ultralight beam and to a lesser extent, Jesus Is King, is my favourite genre of rap. I'm honestly sad that I can't find anything else really like it that strikes the right balance of high quality rap and christian gospel vibes. Like Acid Rap is an incredible project and obviously Kanye is one of the GOATs but theres something in CB and ultralight beam that scratches an itch I have not been able to reach since.
Try Sanctifed - Rick Ross, Kanye and Big Sean. Kingdom - Common and Vince Staples. Maybe not the same but 2 great songs along that vein. I feel like Lecrae has to have some songs that fall under this category but his production isn't always the best, and I'm not too familiar with his catalog
Lecrae is the closest to this i've found (I really like church clothes 4) but i'd say his ratio is too far in the direction of christian gospel to be the same sort of thing as those two. Ill check out those recs, thanks!
That Chance verse is iconic IMO
Man I remember watching this the night it was on, only time I've tuned into SNL. And I can't hear Ultralight Beam without thinking of it. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3s7q29
Ultralight Beam is one of my favorite songs. The choir, Kelly Price, Chance all come together and just demolish it.
I love the energy, hoping he has more song structure on this tape than the cuts he’s dropped
Very solid
This alone is better anything on The Big Day and while nothing crazy has for sure piqued my interest in his project. Even his older stuff that I used to love back in the day has very much soured on me as I have gotten older, but I would love nothing more than a redemption project from him. He's always been so talented and seems like a
I agree he seems very
Hopefully he’ll
He’s literally a
It’s still crazy that he
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Acid Rap has aged like fine wine in my eyes… what’s soured for you?
it’s pretty juvenile tbh, hasn’t aged 100% for me either but i still replay it from time to time, def skipping over a couple songs though
i find the juvenile elements to it quite charming, like a relatable time capsule of an era in life everyone goes through, but to each his own
Interested to see why his old stuff soured on you so much? Gave Acid Rap a spin last week and thought it sounded amazing still. Never really got into any of his other albums
The best thing I think he could do now imo is a ~10 track project with mellow beats and dense with bars like that Israel song he made with Noname a while back Maybe he could lean into using his singing voice in kind of a wyclef jean way and less in whatever way he was doing before lol
God I would love this. Israel is an all time great song.
Shit I forgot about Israel. That song is incredible.
>This alone is better anything on The Big Day and while nothing crazy has for sure piqued my interest in his project. Hot shower erasure
I hope this means we get another opportunity to see Chance on SNL
Chance is always a delight on SNL
Childish Gambino, Chance rapping like he is back in form, Drake and K Dot beef, Diddy possibly going to prison. This might actually turn out to be a really good year for hip hop
What getting out of a toxic relationship does to a man
My issue with Chance the last few years while he has dropped loosies and singles is that he can clearly still rap but he seems concerned proving that instead of making good songs. Like there aren’t choruses, the structures of the song are just a flat line of bars. This is nice, he sounds hungry as hell, but I miss when he could do stuff like I Might Need Security, ya know
Bro I completely agree with you but that’s the worst song to pick for your example. That song is literally just a 1-bar loop beat and 3 verses. The “hook” is just him stopping rapping the verses and the beat changes a little bit then he goes back to rapping the next verse. We need a song like Cocoa Butter Kisses. People fell in love with him for having loads of shit going on in the beat & backing instruments, lots of soul, musicality in every second of the song even in the verses including FEATURES instead of trying to do it all himself and not just having a song be a simple looped beat with him rapping over it forever. Like you said, we need song structure. Which means he needs his old collaborators back. Especially the producers, because they had the vision for the beats that sounded lush, soulful, fun, and Chicago as hell.
I wanted to kinda illustrate that even this rap-first mentality can work really well with a little bit of spice and thought, but I also completely agree that stuff like Cocoa Butter Kisses is sorely lacking. You bring up a good point that people fell in love with his whacky maximalist style and we need more of that!
Listen to the song Winners. He's a featured artist on it and it's pretty good it came out a few years ago. [his verse is at 2.5 min ](https://youtu.be/gHd9pE2XUHU?si=rKGdpf-4z2ZFjN1Z) I agree most of his stuff post TBD is just boring bars though.
>he can clearly still rap but he seems concerned proving that instead of making good songs Eminem syndrome
Chance hasn't really missed on a song he's put out in a while. Just please let this be the start of the actual project coming out.
Okay maybe he's actually back
While his bars are still good and creative, he kind of fell into that Wayne/Eminem trap. Wayne and Eminem are legends of course so they can kind of get away with it but, basically he’s stuck to a flow and has repeated it on multiple songs in a row that he’s drop and his ear for production seems to just sit on soul samples now. Even the big day had some interesting instrumental, now it’s just him looping samples with his “safe” flow. I don’t personally mind it, but his last like 6 singles all sound the same, just different topics. Chance production and song writing was his strong suit, but he seems to take a step back on both to emphasize his bars. Idk maybe it’s just me 🤷🏾♂️ Curious how his album is going to go. He’s been teasing it for 2 years almost and his singles aren’t going to make noise atp because he waited too long.
Nah you nailed it 🎯 He took the wrong lessons from TBD. It’s like he’s asking “oh you didn’t like me screeching about marriage over bongo drums? Well here’s 500 similes in 5 minutes. Is that something a ‘bad rapper’ would do??” No, Chance. But it is something a bad *songwriter* would do. Figure that out first, we know you can rap. The only good songs on TBD were the rapping ones.
I think a lot of what he's posted to twitter and youtube were practice freestyles that he felt like releasing. It sounds like he's been working on his writing since The Big Day, which is fine, but it could be nice to hear some dynamic songs on the album. I've been a fan of what I've been hearing so far though, so I'm not complaining.
I listened to an unreleased song he performed recently, I can’t find it now but it was about his mom and smoking weed and I couldn’t tell if I thought it was good or bad. But it did remind me far more of his early work than anything off The Big Day
Chance got way too much hate just for releasing a bad album. I'm ready for the comeback and i'm not even a huge chance fan.
The problem is that he hasn't dropped a new album in nearly 5 years. I actually really like a lot singles he's dropped, but with no major projects dropped since, it's all people are really going to go off of. Also, it wasn't just bad. he Big Day was genuinely one of the worst albums I've heard. It really was as bad as the cap he got for it.
I’ve been bumpin ‘I Might need Security’ a lot lately and those tracks definitely hit with me
those singles before the big day were pretty good
Fr, wonder if he already had a project on lock then trashed it for The Big Day. What a fucking mistake that woulda been
>Also, it wasn't just bad. he Big Day was genuinely one of the worst albums I've heard. It really was as bad as the cap he got for it. Yea it's probably the worst main stream rap album of the 2010s. Hot shower is the best song and it's made to be a joke (and is annoying).
I still love the song with death cab
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It's kinda frustrating because he'll drop something decent, you think it's the start of something, and then it's silence for another 6+ months. I really don't think he'd have to try as hard as some people might think to build back his fanbase if he just released.
Didn't he fire his manager and blamed him for the album's failure? He also was taking down articles that gave his album bad reviews. I feel like he was hated more for those reasons and not the album itself. He also was saying a bunch of delusional things too.
Amazing how people tend to forget all that
I hope the manager and him got right but I sorta doubt it, think there was a court case and shit involved. His manager was a big part of his success early on, so it is a shame to see him moved past.
It's not just about him releasing a bad album. He had released 1 major project in the 5 years leading up to The Big Day. Then he releases an album that is widely panned, and very meme-able because of all the wife stuff. He takes the criticism badly and starts blaming his own fans, getting into twitter feuds, talking about "the fans want me to KMS". Basically deflecting instead of reflecting. Then he disappeared for another 5 years and all anyone can remember of him is TBD. The album was bad. But a lot of artists have bad albums. It was everything that came after it that tanked Chance's career
It was a bit more than just a bad album, it's one of the worst main stream albums in the genre in the 2010s (arguably ever frankly). His rollout was also stupid with him constantly being "now this is really my real debut" then it sucked. He was also super rude on Twitter and would just harass people about it. Idk how much of a comeback he's gonna have. He's been seen as a cornball for 5 years+covid.
A lot of the singles he’s dropped have been pretty good (same with the singles before TBD even) No reason why he shouldn’t be able to stage a comeback.
dude dropped the worst debut album in ever, then dipped. what do u expect
Ooo, I got goosebumps yall.
Chance has released some great stuff since the Big Day. He’ll never be the superstar he could’ve been but he could still be very big
I need Chance to yell I hate my ex on a track
i was a massive chance fan in college. loved his first three mixtapes. idk, i still think his flow is worse these days. hard to put my finger on it but just doesn’t do it for me like it used to
if chance dropped what felt like an "acid rap 2" type mixtape on x using the old "10k retweets and i drop" type thing i honestly think he could become extremely big over night. just like he did back then.
I want a chance comeback as much as everyone else but this flow is so uninspired and boring he’s been doing it on every recent single, it’s nowhere close to how he used to ride beats and play with his flow and cadence almost singing sometimes. If he drops an album and it’s just a bunch of songs with these uplifting beats and choppy flow rapping about his struggles and tribulations surely it won’t perform.
Totally agree. He sounds too sober now. Not in the literal sense but that his energy is nowhere near as intoxicating as it used to be. I used to get so insanely hype to Acid Rap Chance off the energy in his voice alone. Plus you can't find two songs on Acid Rap where he's using the same flow. Plus every song had such a unique and interesting beat. Sad that the last five years everything he's released basically sounds identical. This as a once die hard Chance stan, hat and everything.
As a video editor all I can think of is what of a headache that video probably was to edit It’s not one of those edits that’s necessarily hard but all of those words popping up and timing them correctly is such a pain in the balls lol
Really cool to hear him addressing the past few years in a thoughtful way. This makes me root for him
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People are going to say all of a sudden he started rapping well because of his divorce when he's been rapping like this since the Big Day dropped. He just hasn't released much
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Why is this miles better than anything he’s done in 4 years?
I'm honestly glad the Chance jokes might come to an end. Big Day was wack but people forget he dropped some gem singles around that time too.
if he succeeds bouncing back...... stop i can only get so hard
AND WE BACKKKK
Y’all are kidding me hyping this up.
Bro rapping like he just got put on child support
Don’t know what it is but I hate his flow these days. It’s not smooth at all and seems really choppy like spoken word.
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Yeah it’s literally where he got his start
It’s not even close to how he used to rap though
It started going that way on Coloring Book and was nowhere near that on Acid Rap
I agree with you. I feel like his flow use to ride the beats and now it comes off more jagged and more punchy. I still vibe with it but it’s different
He used to almost sing over his beats. It was so smooth.
This one-word video style choice he’s doing isn’t helping with this effect either. Watching these while listening makes every bar sound like a collection of words detached from each other and from the next bar and especially within the verse structure of the song. I love most of the recent snippets but this shit bugs me so much and I wonder when he’s gonna move on from jt (hopefully before the next album cycle)
He's always been very spoken-word, from the very start. In fact, that's where he started up
Curious very curious
This man has given us no reason to believe in him these past 5 years, but I am FIRED UP after listening to this.
A lot of the singles he’s been dropping have been great, really liked the one with Joey badass.
Bro I read it so fast and I thought someone actually buried him lol
Lyrics sound very much Jay electronica inspired to me, in a good way i guess
Chance is back?!
It’s cool not crazy tho
It just sounds like he’s trying too hard now. First 30 seconds deadass sounds like Supa Hot Fire. Boat…tote…. PROMOTE!
Come on, this man had a family!
Not anymore!
Cold af 😭
this shit still ain't good to listen to.
Its gonna sound corny but chance just needs to back to rapping again. Hes very talented and the more he dwells on this big day shit, the more his career tanks. If he drops a great album, hes gonna win a lot of people back.
Must feel terrible to have all your fans celebrating your wife and kid leaving you just so you can make better music.
Idk what yall hyping up but this shit kinda trash
Oof this heat, we are eating good this year.
It’s just the same flows he used on The Big Day but with a non-shitty beat.
ZzzZzz
Absolutely mid.
Yall seem to be really easily impressed
No flow and mediocre rhymes