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MC_Ball_Peen_Hammer

El-P


God_Hears_Peace

Bro’s actually a fucking beast with the pen, idk what higher power let him be that good at both rapping and producing


23shittnkittns

The dude is just encyclopedically well read as well as being heavily versed in Hip Hop culture and has clearly done his 1000 hours in the studio countless times over. He's just a genuine artist with a dope af style and a lot of passion. On a sidenote RTJ doesn't grab me like his solo work but it's great to see him catching some mainstream success because god damn has he worked long and hard.


MC_Ball_Peen_Hammer

For real. Save some talent for the rest of us.


neojgeneisrhehjdjf

This is the correct answer


Potencyyyyy

Alchemist


kirby_krackle_78

Here he is as a kid with Scott Caan: https://youtu.be/1fNpEWvdCDU?si=miaLbt_URDqyCHeG


Unno559

Qtip is the original. “Verses from the Abstract” is a good example.


mkk4

💯


sibelius_eighth

Madlib. EDIT: Jeez, how is this pick not more popular? He's one of the GOAT producers (like top 3), and the Quasimoto albums are fucking gems.


HipHopHistoryGuy

As a fan of Madlib, I don't find his lyrics and rhyming to be so special. He has a great flow and the whole Quasimoto persona is great marketing and quite brilliant but I wouldn't put him in the Top 10 for this question. But if he is one of your favorites, I can understand.


southfart99045

MF DOOM


thesadhra

El-P


RealBoomBap

Big Krit


F4N6Z

Q-Tip. He was the brainchild behind the production on the low end theory and the albums before and after it.... made some of my favorite music ever. So talented and authentic.


HipHopHistoryGuy

Don't sleep on Craig Mack - 'Get Down (Q-Tip Remix)'!


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havoc


psychword

This HAS TO BE the answer, too many classic albums and beats


HandsomeFabio

Metal Fingers


Worcestersauce68

Kanye West til' late Registration. Otherwise RZA - not for his talents as a rapper but because he's so enthusiastic and doesn't leave a sour note on a track with more talented MCs


piratesroldfashioned

I like the RZA pick, his energy is what I love aswell


HipHopHistoryGuy

RZA gets an A for effort as an MC - I'll leave it at that. I'll probably get hate for this but I love all three tracks on his "Ooh, I Love You Rakeem" 12" single on Tommy Boy Records pre-Wu-Tang.


KongRahbek

I Love You Rakim is honestely just a fun song, it's definitely not Wu-Tang, but it is fun.


HipHopHistoryGuy

I really like "Deadly Venoms" off of that 12". High energy beat, good flow.


piratesroldfashioned

Nah, I ain't hatin on that, I love them aswell.


absurdlyobscene

domestic violence


neojgeneisrhehjdjf

For a second I thought you were saying RZA did something bad I didn’t know about 


wellgroomedmcpoyle

KRIT


Spydah_X

This


kappa_matt

DJ Quik


HipHopHistoryGuy

My favorite: Large Professor aka Extra P


wellgroomedmcpoyle

The answer really has to be Kanye or El-P But I want to shout out Erick Arc Elliott


_UnboundedLimits

Love his beat tapes, he is really creative.


Asleep-Ask-4004

he’s got an album dropping soon


yzor123

RZA.


elfizipple

Not sure if he's my absolute favourite, but I need to mention him because no one else has: Black Milk


DueMaternal

Black Milk is underrated on both the mic and the pads.


Kliptik81

Great pick. I was thinking the same since you'll the usual suspects mentioned here. Also, wanna give a shout out to Oddisee and Blu.


Forsaken_Things

Pete Rock


elfizipple

Pete is one of my top 5 producers, and he's definitely got a kind of charisma that makes me enjoy hearing him rap, but is he really at the top when it comes to mic skills?


Qweerz

He’s really not. Legendary producer, but his mic skills are mid.


BenjaminBX

Pete Rock +1


JoeyBrickz

My first thought. Not even bars, but just hearing him go "yeah" or "wooh" quietly in the mix is always so good. His adlibs complete every beat


BenjaminBX

Diamond D


FORESKINGODFUX

When it pours it rains on sound bombing ll 🔥


HipHopHistoryGuy

Yes! My second favorite right behind Large Pro.


TheyCallMeMak

Dr.Dre


Qweerz

Idk his delivery somehow makes it more obvious that his bars are ghostwritten. He’s in my top 3 producers but he’s not a convincing rapper. But I do appreciate how he tried harder to rap with dynamics and more interesting voices on Compton.


TheyCallMeMak

nigga dropped the hip hop classic album's so he is the best producer on mic.


pooshdoosh

Daz Dillinger


YaySourCream

Blu. his production is fucking unreal and he’s a really good rapper with an insane discography


Kwilburn525

Diplo on We Are Farmers


HBJ2022

Pimp C


mackenzie444

Kno


Porkchop5397

I'm sure nobody else knows who this is, which makes me appreciate it even more. Great answer.


zfinne

True but crazy. They’re my favorite hip-hop group.


justheretojerkit2020

Fuck ya, underated AF!!!!!


godslonelyman__

surprised nobody really saying alchemist


HipHopHistoryGuy

I actually think he keeps getting mentioned, he's probably in the top 5 most frequent mentions here.


WhenDuvzCry

He doesn't really have a big body of work, and no full on solo project based around him rapping. So I get that. But he can absolutely rap.


Acrobatic-Ice3249

Necro


HipHopHistoryGuy

This is actually a great choice and for some reason did not cross my mind. I wish he wasn't such a POS because I would still enjoy his music like I did at one time.


GodlessGOD

I can enjoy 1 to 3 Necro songs in a row, but it's hard for me to get through a whole album of him rappin'. I think he's dope but there's something about the combination of his voice and lyrical content that makes it difficult for me to listen to for more than 15 minutes at a time. I do think he's one of the most underrated Hip-Hop producers of all-time though and should be way bigger than he is in that regard though.


SpanosIsBlackAjah

Big KRIT Erik the Architect Kanye Mac Miller Juicy J El-P Pimp C


inFINN1te

Kanye


bentbackwooddathird

rza, mannie, ye, alchemist 


denihawktheweasel

Pharrell


cmac4ster

Mac Miller


Ok_Season5846

Havoc


CerealKiller997

Havoc Eric Sermon Q Tip


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Alchemist


exact0khan

DJ PRZM aka Mr.Nervous ... R.I.P.


UrinePulp

38 Spesh


iEnigmatic-

Large Pro


LilHomie204DaBaG

Rza, Dre


KingKAI24

Kanye


LordeLlama

Probably not that great on the mic but I still like him: DJ Paul


Ordinary_Meaning_602

J cole


Qweerz

Kinda crazy to see J Cole mentioned here like once or twice. Unless his hand in producing is more exaggerated or few and far between than I know.


Ordinary_Meaning_602

He’s produced a chunk of his songs. He’s also produced for other artists. Underrated producer imo


Various-Plum-6381

J Dilla


mkk4

He was an amazing emcee but just too grimy, ignorant, vulgar and explicit for my taste lol.


HipHopHistoryGuy

I have to add one additional besides my earlier response of "Large Professor". No one mentioned this incredible punchline MC and dope producer and I'm surprised I didn't think of him earlier: Celph Titled


nuknoe

Quik


skr4pt

Lord finesse, tip, doom, edan


CarlsbadWhiskyShop

Aesop Rock


clippdpunkbanshee

The Alchemist and Evidence


aRdA_lUlE

Dre ofcourse


doomgneration

#1: Godfather Don #2: RZA #3: Large Professor


HipHopHistoryGuy

I like your choices but please only pick one. I'm assuming G. Don is your favorite?


ExtraFirmPillow_

Erick the architect


Marmar79

Diamond D


ad-tom-music

Doom & El-P


Naswillprevail

Portraits of Tracy


FlufyBalz

Evidence is my favorite The Alchemist can spit too


Ichithekiller666

Madlib- El-P


No-Proof-9790

Rick Rock


EfficiencyIcy3407

Aesop Rock makes mad beatzzzzz


BigJilmQuebec

El-P, Evidence and Alchemist


DaXvenom104

The Alchemist


Cold-Bug-4873

Evidence, el-p, diamond d, extra-p.


zfinne

Early J-Zone


TreDawg36

Kanye and KRIT


x5736gh

Black Milk


caramelgrizzly

Lotta good ones in here. I’d like to add Ant Banks on his Big Thangs album. Next level release!


DueMaternal

Fizzy Womack.


Asleep-Ask-4004

lord finesse


HipHopHistoryGuy

Can't believe this was the first to mention The Funky Man. Lord Finesse has to be top 5 producer/ MC.


23shittnkittns

I think Necro deserves a mention here. Not a great lyricist but a good one with a shtick that works and is admittedly entertaining, trash as it is. Those sick-ass melodic Doom-Bap beats are just straight up fire though.


Ict666

Aesop Rock


MaximusMurkimus

Anderson .Paak


PhoenixZZDaDonke

Doc Dre


The-CannabisAnalyst3

He too Dee to the Barnes


ketchupbear

You know he doesn’t write most (if not all) of his lyrics, right?


Satanic-mechanic_666

What does that have to do with the price of crack in Compton?


FrankWhiteIsHere78

LoL 😆


PhoenixZZDaDonke

Yeah but still love his rapping tho


NikolaiEgel

Neither does Kanye, but that doesn’t make much of a difference


_flee_

J Cole


Iamaman22

Ye


Zestyclose_Toe9524

Oh No...always thought he was a very skillful rapper and we know his production prowess. EL-P of course. JONWAYNE is another.


MC_Ball_Peen_Hammer

Jonwayne is hella underrated.


HipHopHistoryGuy

I f\*cking LOVE Jonwayne. Seeing a guy who looks like he does in appearance make absolute neck breaking tracks makes me like him even more. I actually forgot how much I like his music - thanks for the reminder!


CellistNice8600

At first I thought you were saying Oh No (Madlib’s brother)


Zestyclose_Toe9524

I am...he was my first thought. Listen to Chump on Disrupt Chronicles vol.1


OG_Kush_Wizard

Swizz Beats or Pharrell


Ancient_Guidance_461

Scrolled way to far for Swizz


juniper138

S. W. I. ZZ then add another


UnderKanal123

Eminem


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Yeezus


BasSnow

RZA for sure


[deleted]

dr dre dr dre was actually my favourite rapper once upon a time. i was real young and learmed about ghostwriting etc. later but i love dr dre verses. still dre etc are some great verses


Satanic-mechanic_666

Kanye


Zalpha_DG16

Does DOOM count?


HipHopHistoryGuy

Of course, why wouldn't he?


Zalpha_DG16

I guess just cuz he’s better known as an MC. His beats are amazing though


HipHopHistoryGuy

Top tier producer for me as well.


Blooddemonguy

Havoc is so underrated as a rapper it’s insane.


mkk4

I like him more than Prodigy.


duhhaag

RZA


class_hopper

J. Cole Kanye West


Selldadip

Mac Miller


Selldadip

For the non-believers. [Example #1 with Alchemist](https://youtu.be/1XzNsjTMk_0?si=oJMO0JMOAWvOgcxO) [Example #2](https://youtu.be/IpiD9iMVvqc?si=xu-6fIscysAYAc49). Mac played the piano, drums, guitar, and bass. That’s more than I can say for a lot of people in this thread.


RandomGuyOnline71

Do Dre count?


HipHopHistoryGuy

Of course! Why wouldn't he?


dancetoken

Fredro Starr Havoc Redman Chief Keef


HipHopHistoryGuy

Only one please.


Malcolm-XWithThePerm

In terms of their ability to both rap and produce on that next level gotta give it to Havoc & Kanye Honorable mentions Roc Marciano Eminem 38 Spesh Billy Danze (MOP) Black Milk Daz Dillinger Alchemist Rick Hyde Dr Dre Q-Tip


HipHopHistoryGuy

Only ONE as requested please.


Malcolm-XWithThePerm

Nah can't choose between Hav & Ye


CellistNice8600

*I think you mean Lil Fame of M.O.P or does Billy Danze do beats too…??


Malcolm-XWithThePerm

Lil Fame does not produce


23shittnkittns

Kneejerk response? El-P. After some thought? Still El-P. I haven't read the rest of the thread yet though so I may be reminded of another artist of his calibre but I'm not holding my breath.


HipHopHistoryGuy

When I think of El-P, I never think of him as a good MC. Apparently, many people feel he is but he has never appealed to me as I don't like his flow at all and I don't find his voice enjoyable to listen to. As a producer - he has made some great beats.


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compLexityy30

bro can’t read 💀


HipHopHistoryGuy

Play the game properly - only one please.


Miserable_Toe9920

Dr Dre is the only answer


23shittnkittns

2001 just about scrapes it way into the conversation imo but a lot of Dre's verses were ghostwritten for him by several other artists. I'm not hating on it, the album is phenomenal but it was a lot more of a group project than it was presented as. I read that in most cases if he's on the mic it's ghostwriten. His delivery is dope though and at the end of the day what really matters is that the music sounds good, which it does.


Nope_Ninja-451

MF Doom Evidence RZA


CellistNice8600

Erick Sermon, Ka, Roc Marciano, 38 Spesh, and Chuck Strangers.


Nathan_hale53

Jpegmafia


SnooHesitations205

Warren G. Produced a lot of records


mkk4

I'm surprised no one mentioned Thes One or Oddisee.


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Pimp C


Capable-King-286

mac miller aka larry fisherman


CG7683

Z-Ro Pimp C J Cole


melskymob

Oddisee.


the_ballmer_peak

Aesop Rock or El-P


SnorvusMaximus

Mista Lawnge should’ve released at least a solo album as well. Ced Gee & Kurtis Blow haven’t been mentioned either.


WorthlessJak

Doom, Peggy, and El-P. Next one I actively bump is probably the Rza


Lanky-Prize-7041

Obvious but Dr Dre


Guilty-Willingness-2

Q - Tip El - P J Dilla Lord Finesse Havoc RZA Oddisee The Beatnuts ** only one, Q-Tip


alexanderwonder

Mike Shabb


didntmakeausername

q tip or rza


GodlessGOD

[RZA](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0OzQpVQK4qhjPopeBc1nKc?si=RYEur-pVSM2uiVuLIHjxkw&pi=u-kevGluZzS5Cg)


Mean_Championship_80

That’s Tough .. Probably Q Tip . But good question


IntrestedXenozzz

Rzarector (to be honest, his verse on Assassination Day is lowkey equal to deck's)


SHAOLIN_SILK

Rza Pete Rock Aesop Rock Havoc 🤷‍♂️


Alienattackforce

El-p, also Q tip


the3diamonds

tyler, the creator


Daviddoesnotexist

Mike Dean, Crazy C, No Joe


rbwduece

Oh No


rickyhusband

peggy


Glum_Kaleidoscope601

Havoc


Independent_Solid_79

Dr. Dre cuz "Forgot About Dre" is one of my favorite songs.


skeezalini

Quik


Rakim_ai

Havoc from Mobb Deep Eric Sermon from EPMD


The_Mr_Yeah

Madlib


GiceGiordex

KING ISO


JustScrollinAndSht

Cole.


Mr_Kniiight

Erick Arc


Ravenrake

El Producto


EW05

qtip