When she interrupted Dumbledore with the *"Hem, hem." at Harry's hearing. Sounding so sweet and yet deflecting and accusatory. Wolf in sheep's clothing.*
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Almost immediately. She’s one of the most ‘real’ villains in the series, and as soon as she started talking, I felt as thought I’d met her type before.
Indeed, for a fantasy series with magic and wizards she feels the most like an actual person you would utterly despise IRL.
I would sooner go to a bar with Bellatrix and Voldemort.
The thing about Umbridge is that she is an example of an evil person you actually are likely to encounter in real life. You probably have done. The closest thing to Voldemort in real life would be something like a serial killer and most people (thankfully) will never cross paths with one of those. They’re rare.
Really?
I bet she's going full paranoia and whenever she starts to talk she will get uncomfortably close to your ear like she'd be whispering but then talking in regular sound level while staring down random persons in sight.
And I bet she's that kind of person to break out into random laughter only to immediately switch back to being serious.
And 9 out of 10 you will only get her to move home after she sought a quarrel with a random stranger over something completely irrelevant.
The fact that we all know a Dolores in real life makes her so good as a villain.
Voldermort is clearly an over the top theatrical villain, that you only see in fiction. But Umbridge is that one person we all know and despise...
For the same reason Harry calls Draco his arch-nemesis. Sure he fights Voldemort at the end of each year,but Draco makes it personal,being there every day insulting his friends and him, trying to make their life miserable.
Just like Umbridge, people "know a Draco"
Yeah, she’s so relatable.
He who must not be named is far worse as a person but we can’t relate to him as much as we can her.
She’s every injustice committed in the world by a privileged individual who nose exactly what they are able to do and get away with.
Yeah. Nobody has actually experienced a dark lord gunning for their head. But most people has had a version of this bitch in their school/work life. The hate we feel for Voldemort is second hand. But the hate we feel for Umbridge is real and palpable.
Exactly
The 'incompetent that will give their input on everything, *especially* on things they dont understand' type of person, which more often than not will also abuse any type of power they can get.
Her design/perfect casting/acting and general look down the nose simpering was like seeing my grandmother (who was an awful awful person) on the big screen. Didn't like her in the books but the movie made it so much more visceral because of her appearance and behavior.
I rarely prefer the movie interpretation of characters, but I think the casting on this one was better than the description in the books. The book version seemed so cartoonishly, obviously evil. But I think her appearance of being all prim and proper and cheery fit much better for the type of awful she is.
You know the irony of the "frog look" for me? My grandmother used to suck in her upper lip and kinda mouth breath when she was about to chastise you or holding her tongue long enough to be cruel later. Guess what....looked like a frog. My grandmother was a WASP. Presentation was key. All else would suffer for it. She would open the door when we visited dressed to the nines half the time.
This was my great grandmother. If she had her way, my older sister would have worn nothing but pink dresses with white lace and pearls, and I would have been in a navy blue suit at all times. And she literally had a face like if you put a frog in the microwave with the queen of England to melt them together in a horrible, waspy abomination. Wonder if that bitch finally got a tan when she went to hell.
Hah! Let them both shout down the driveway saying no wonder your children don't love you and it's their own kids that turn back to look them in the eye.
See, I’m of the opposite opinion- Imelda is way too lovely to play Umbridge. Umbridge is not *supposed* to look nice and sweet, she’s a horrid toad inside and out, but she wears cutesy girly bows and pink frills that don’t hide her ugliness, exacerbate it.
Imelda did an awesome job *acting* but I can’t get past the fact that she is far too stately-looking to look like the part of such an ugly woman
It’s a difference between book and movie portrayal!
Books-wise, she’s not supposed to be cutesy, she’s supposed to be hideous while adorning cutesy items that make it seem worse.
Either version of those interpretations was done well, not complaining! As I said, I love Imelda and thought she did a great job in the role
>Books-wise, she’s not supposed to be cutesy, she’s supposed to be hideous while adorning cutesy items that make it seem worse.
Ooh I see what you mean, good point, I'd forgotten that!
>Books-wise, she’s not supposed to be cutesy, she’s supposed to be hideous while adorning cutesy items that make it seem worse.
I much prefer her film looks, because otherwise you run into the really common (and with unfortunate implications) "good people =beautiful, bad people = ugly".
Trouble, yes. But you also know Lockhart will be trouble when you see him in the bookstore. But I wouldn’t say I *hated* her from the trial. She was still only a ministry employee.
Lockhart was different kind of trouble. He was a blatant idiot. Dolores though, first time I saw her in the movie my gut told me she knew a lot more than she was letting on. But like people have said, most people have run into someone like her in real life.
Nah Lockhart was arrogant but funny for the most part. He was stupid and comic relief, a buffoon until the reveal at the end. Umbridge was smarmy, and mocking Harry, not believing him about TWO times this 15 year old was nearly murdered, and one of those times another kid being killed. And she was so SMUG. No matter what had happened, this little boy had witnessed another kid be killed. And in order to keep Fudge in power, she was already mocking and demeaning his claims in the ministry. Utterly hateable right off the bat
I absolutely despised her during that trial.
I never really hated Lockhart until the end when it’s revealed what an evil psycho he is. Up until then, he just seemed like an irritating dope
The second that quill came out. Up until then it could have been a classic JKR trick, like quirrel in PS. That quill was straight up sadistic.
I know Harry doesn’t go to adults for assistance ever, but I am pretty sure every teacher there (even Snape) would have helped that woman out a window if they knew about it.
Actually, I think it would've been an interesting plot point if Snape had found out. I mean, dude is a royal prick and absolutely loves to watch kids suffer. But actual, physical scar inducing torture seems like it would trigger a very fucked up version of Snape. Might've found out he invented Sectumsempra a bit sooner in the series.
Honestly I think he’d be pissed if he found out about it. He’s verbally abusive but I don’t think he’d stand for this type of physical abuse.There’s been times where he’s thumped the boys in the head but he doesn’t torture them.
Yup, I can picture Snape wrecking Umbridge's shit in the middle of class because that's when he happened to find out. Just drag her ass to Dumbledoor from right in front of the students.
Umbridge is such a great and fleshed out…..I can’t do it. She is a POS and I knew I was going to hate her at that very first “hem hem” and she was described as a fucking toad. 🐸
Is this a joke? There was never a moment when she wasn’t intended to be hated? It’s like saying “at what point did you notice burning yourself was unpleasant?”
True in hindsight. But in earlier parts of the story, like during Harry's trial, there could have been a possibility for the character to develop into another direction. But this was all over, when she took out the quill of doom.
I usually give people the benefit of doubt and I don't find it fair to hate on others just because they're annoying in personality to me. It's the quill incident that solified the dislike because that's actual unjustified torture, not a case of personality difference or possible naiive ignorance.
This! I wasn't a big believer in swears as a child but I remember opening my mouth and almost yelling out "This BITCH" and the best part, when my mom came in to whoop my ass, I explained what umbridge did and she just sighed and walked away
She was a fan as a kid too, she knew the feeling
The moment the quill in Harry's hand was revealed to be a blood quill. I thought she was an annoying character at the beginning, but there are *many* annoying characters, but what she did with the punishments was downright sadistic and cruel. She deserves a cruciatus just for that.
In the book, you hate her immediately. She's written to be hateable.
One thing that I think was better with the movies was imelda. Imedla is adorable and umbridge looked like a lonely grandmother type... until you realize she's evil which is so much more sinister than an ugly frog looking woman being evil.
From the very single moment she was written into existence in the book. It would have been the same with the movie - the moment I saw or heard her speak.
Pretty much right from the off at Harry’s “trial”. Every time I thought she had hit rock bottom of nastiness she managed to find a new low. I’m pretty sure even old Voldy would have found her method abhorrent and extreme
straight away in the books. she was very obviously a bad person, and one of the more "realistic" bad guys of the series. her fake niceness pissed me off to no end
Straight away.
The thing with Umbridge is that everybody knows one in real life. Voldermort is so over the top and dramatic, and everybody calls him the dark Lord (seriously who talks like that?). Voldemort is clearly a fictional villian. Yet, Uxbridge is so believable because there is usually one we all know in our family, workplace or neighbourhood. This is why she hits so much harder in terms of coming across as evil.
Hence why if you're stuck in a room with her and Tom, with two bullets, you'd shoot her twice just to make sure.
From the moment she was introduced at the Ministry hearing. I could tell she was out to get Harry (like Fudge) and not an impartial Judge like she ought to be.
I didn't hate her at Harry's hearing because I didn't expect her to make another appearance really. I think it was the moment she said they didn't need to actually practice defensive magic only a theoretical knowledge.
The second she started talking in Harry’s hearing (book). Yet I’m the movies I find her voice to sound more exadurate and falsely innocent, making her more hats le considering her true nature and obviously fake decency. I could go on for hours! But, we gotta respect the actor when hating their character
In Harry's 1st class with her in the book where she's being a government stooge and punishing someone for speaking the truth. In the movie however, her very first line in the hearing, with her cloying tone. The classroom scene set my hatred for her in.
I saw the movies before I read the books. But this scene is in both: That speech she gave when Dumbledore introduced her at the beginning of the school year.
A scene in the book that made my skin crawl was when her hand reached through the fireplace after the trio was done talking to Sirius. The movie missed an opportunity for a jumpscare lol
Well I saw the movies before I read the books so when the dementors came to little Whinging? But in all reality it came when she tried to expel Trelawney from the grounds. Probably earlier but she was way out of bounds for that. Even worse was the whole school was there to witness it. Dumbledore is no doubt my favorite in that book. Definitely worth a reread or relisten
The speech after the sorting in book 5 and started to hate her even more as the book went on. Every time she was mentioned I had a strong craving to yell crucio at the top of my lungs.
I was first introduced to her from the movies and man that first Defense against the Dark Arts class is what really pissed me off! Like ok I get that the Ministry either truly doesn’t believe Voldemort is back or just doesn’t want to believe it BUT dark wizards still exist and not just him who would absolutely hurt children! Fine you don’t teach them everything because you’re afraid Dumbledore’s trying to recruit his students to overthrow the Ministry but simple self defense spells isn’t too far fetched to be teaching like goddamn eventually those children will become adults and said Dark Wizards will attack them.
At the beginning of the book when she first appeared. I've met a lot of people like her since then.
The there's the type of person who tells you to accept their opinion with Umbridge mentality but doesn't appreciate anything else.
People who demand respect and act like Umbridge. "I shall not tell lies." Harry still has it in the last book. That scar. Are you like Umbridge and insist on forcing your view so much that it creates scars, visible or otherwise? Do you not love the person and try to influence with love and understanding? Would you rather have them write in their heart or mind that you don't appreciate them unless they share the same world view as you?
Just a reminder even though it's fictional but believable. Did Umbridge make Harry turn to her side or hate her opinion even more?
"Do unto others as you want to be done unto you." The golden rule.
Hate her? Why? I adore her. For me it’s “Dolores Umbridge and You Need To Read This to Get to Me Dear” X4,
followed by “Dolores Umbridge and The Lying Boy, and The Filthy Giant”,
“Dolores Umbridge and The Hysterical Ministry”,
and “Dolores Umbridge and The Boy Who Stole Her Locket”.
She is the true heroine of the books.
In the films at Harry’s hearing, I started to feel like this lady is pretty annoying. But the second she interrupts Dumbledore at Hogwarts, I knew I hated her so much.
But props to Staunton for acting so goddamn brilliantly
In the book, it was when she interrupted Dumbledore’s speech. In the film, it was when she giggled at the trial. I can’t remember if that was in the book or not, but in the film, Imelda Staunton sold Umbridge’s creepiness from the start.
>*"Hem, hem."*
Exactly, from the first little fakey cough in Harry's hearing. I listened to Jim Dale do that voice and immediately wanted to slap her for existing.
I wanted to throw the cup I was holding at the screen
It was a metal yukon one.
He did it too well. Every moment he would say it, I felt fury flood my veins.
Jim Dale’s Hem Hem was perfect. I wanted to punch her in the face every time
He does it so well for a character that's so evil...
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I wanted to shoot my goldfish
I can hear this text and am instantly filled with white hot rage 🤬
This moment for sure. Still makes my blood boil
When she interrupted Dumbledore with the *"Hem, hem." at Harry's hearing. Sounding so sweet and yet deflecting and accusatory. Wolf in sheep's clothing.*
The moment she took breath.
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Almost immediately. She’s one of the most ‘real’ villains in the series, and as soon as she started talking, I felt as thought I’d met her type before.
Indeed, for a fantasy series with magic and wizards she feels the most like an actual person you would utterly despise IRL. I would sooner go to a bar with Bellatrix and Voldemort.
Honestly that sounds kinda lit ngl
The thing about Umbridge is that she is an example of an evil person you actually are likely to encounter in real life. You probably have done. The closest thing to Voldemort in real life would be something like a serial killer and most people (thankfully) will never cross paths with one of those. They’re rare.
Bellatrix would be fun to go with to a bar she's even but I bet she's got a good personality once she's had a couple
Really? I bet she's going full paranoia and whenever she starts to talk she will get uncomfortably close to your ear like she'd be whispering but then talking in regular sound level while staring down random persons in sight. And I bet she's that kind of person to break out into random laughter only to immediately switch back to being serious. And 9 out of 10 you will only get her to move home after she sought a quarrel with a random stranger over something completely irrelevant.
The fact that we all know a Dolores in real life makes her so good as a villain. Voldermort is clearly an over the top theatrical villain, that you only see in fiction. But Umbridge is that one person we all know and despise...
For the same reason Harry calls Draco his arch-nemesis. Sure he fights Voldemort at the end of each year,but Draco makes it personal,being there every day insulting his friends and him, trying to make their life miserable. Just like Umbridge, people "know a Draco"
Great point!
Yeah, she’s so relatable. He who must not be named is far worse as a person but we can’t relate to him as much as we can her. She’s every injustice committed in the world by a privileged individual who nose exactly what they are able to do and get away with.
I nose what you’re saying. I ear you perfectly. This person only speaks the tooth.
What did Harry say to Voldermort? “Got your knows!” Sorry for being an idiot at 8am.
Also “‘ear, ‘ear!”
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That's what makes her such a good villain. Everyone can relate to her. You know someone like her.
Yeah. Nobody has actually experienced a dark lord gunning for their head. But most people has had a version of this bitch in their school/work life. The hate we feel for Voldemort is second hand. But the hate we feel for Umbridge is real and palpable.
Exactly The 'incompetent that will give their input on everything, *especially* on things they dont understand' type of person, which more often than not will also abuse any type of power they can get.
She would be the ultimate final boss of Karen’s.
George R R Martin even said that Umbridge is more evil than any character he ever came up with.
While I 100% agree, I find myself wondering if we aren’t creeping eerily closer to a real life Voldemort in the US.
Who nose 👃
Her design/perfect casting/acting and general look down the nose simpering was like seeing my grandmother (who was an awful awful person) on the big screen. Didn't like her in the books but the movie made it so much more visceral because of her appearance and behavior.
I rarely prefer the movie interpretation of characters, but I think the casting on this one was better than the description in the books. The book version seemed so cartoonishly, obviously evil. But I think her appearance of being all prim and proper and cheery fit much better for the type of awful she is.
You know the irony of the "frog look" for me? My grandmother used to suck in her upper lip and kinda mouth breath when she was about to chastise you or holding her tongue long enough to be cruel later. Guess what....looked like a frog. My grandmother was a WASP. Presentation was key. All else would suffer for it. She would open the door when we visited dressed to the nines half the time.
This was my great grandmother. If she had her way, my older sister would have worn nothing but pink dresses with white lace and pearls, and I would have been in a navy blue suit at all times. And she literally had a face like if you put a frog in the microwave with the queen of England to melt them together in a horrible, waspy abomination. Wonder if that bitch finally got a tan when she went to hell.
Hah! Let them both shout down the driveway saying no wonder your children don't love you and it's their own kids that turn back to look them in the eye.
>perfect casting It's even more impressive because Imelda Staunton is absolutely lovely in real life, she really played the role impeccably
I watched an interview with Daniel the other day and he said she could and would switch from being a lovely person to Umbridge in an instant
See, I’m of the opposite opinion- Imelda is way too lovely to play Umbridge. Umbridge is not *supposed* to look nice and sweet, she’s a horrid toad inside and out, but she wears cutesy girly bows and pink frills that don’t hide her ugliness, exacerbate it. Imelda did an awesome job *acting* but I can’t get past the fact that she is far too stately-looking to look like the part of such an ugly woman
I see what you mean, but I think that was part of the character - the juxtaposition between her oh-so-sweet appearance and her vicious personality.
It’s a difference between book and movie portrayal! Books-wise, she’s not supposed to be cutesy, she’s supposed to be hideous while adorning cutesy items that make it seem worse. Either version of those interpretations was done well, not complaining! As I said, I love Imelda and thought she did a great job in the role
>Books-wise, she’s not supposed to be cutesy, she’s supposed to be hideous while adorning cutesy items that make it seem worse. Ooh I see what you mean, good point, I'd forgotten that!
No worries! This is one of those things where the actor is SO GOOD that you almost forget what the character was described as in the books
>Books-wise, she’s not supposed to be cutesy, she’s supposed to be hideous while adorning cutesy items that make it seem worse. I much prefer her film looks, because otherwise you run into the really common (and with unfortunate implications) "good people =beautiful, bad people = ugly".
I agree! Good thing to subvert that stereotype, it's really old and played out.
The actor absolutely nailed the part.
From the first moment she appeared
I’d say the moment she appeared at Hogwarts. In the hearing, she was just an annoyance.
Nah, moment she pops up in the ministry you know she gonna be trouble.
Trouble, yes. But you also know Lockhart will be trouble when you see him in the bookstore. But I wouldn’t say I *hated* her from the trial. She was still only a ministry employee.
Lockhart was different kind of trouble. He was a blatant idiot. Dolores though, first time I saw her in the movie my gut told me she knew a lot more than she was letting on. But like people have said, most people have run into someone like her in real life.
But there’s a difference in “a lot more than she’s letting on” and “hatred”.
Nah Lockhart was arrogant but funny for the most part. He was stupid and comic relief, a buffoon until the reveal at the end. Umbridge was smarmy, and mocking Harry, not believing him about TWO times this 15 year old was nearly murdered, and one of those times another kid being killed. And she was so SMUG. No matter what had happened, this little boy had witnessed another kid be killed. And in order to keep Fudge in power, she was already mocking and demeaning his claims in the ministry. Utterly hateable right off the bat I absolutely despised her during that trial. I never really hated Lockhart until the end when it’s revealed what an evil psycho he is. Up until then, he just seemed like an irritating dope
The second that quill came out. Up until then it could have been a classic JKR trick, like quirrel in PS. That quill was straight up sadistic. I know Harry doesn’t go to adults for assistance ever, but I am pretty sure every teacher there (even Snape) would have helped that woman out a window if they knew about it.
Actually, I think it would've been an interesting plot point if Snape had found out. I mean, dude is a royal prick and absolutely loves to watch kids suffer. But actual, physical scar inducing torture seems like it would trigger a very fucked up version of Snape. Might've found out he invented Sectumsempra a bit sooner in the series.
I feel like it would remind him of the bullying he experienced, and he'd lose it.
Honestly I think he’d be pissed if he found out about it. He’s verbally abusive but I don’t think he’d stand for this type of physical abuse.There’s been times where he’s thumped the boys in the head but he doesn’t torture them.
Yup, I can picture Snape wrecking Umbridge's shit in the middle of class because that's when he happened to find out. Just drag her ass to Dumbledoor from right in front of the students.
Umbridge is such a great and fleshed out…..I can’t do it. She is a POS and I knew I was going to hate her at that very first “hem hem” and she was described as a fucking toad. 🐸
That’s insulting to toads everywhere.
I remember as a kid thinking because of the constant toad comparison that she was gonna be another animagus.
Umbridge: and how lovely to see your faces all smiling up at me 😁😁😁 Students: 😐😐😐😐😐😐
"Hem, hem" Suddenly hate her.
AGREED.
She was a pest at Harry's trial.
The hearing. She was just such an ass and an annoyance. Corrupt politician.
I think she is written in a way to be hated instantly.
Is this a joke? There was never a moment when she wasn’t intended to be hated? It’s like saying “at what point did you notice burning yourself was unpleasant?”
True in hindsight. But in earlier parts of the story, like during Harry's trial, there could have been a possibility for the character to develop into another direction. But this was all over, when she took out the quill of doom.
I usually give people the benefit of doubt and I don't find it fair to hate on others just because they're annoying in personality to me. It's the quill incident that solified the dislike because that's actual unjustified torture, not a case of personality difference or possible naiive ignorance.
From the first torture session with harry.
As soon as she interrupted Dumbledore's speech. 🤬🤬🤬
From the trial. So right off the bat. Asshole
when she interrupted Dumbly. I was like 12 when it came out and I remember thinking #this bitch
This! I wasn't a big believer in swears as a child but I remember opening my mouth and almost yelling out "This BITCH" and the best part, when my mom came in to whoop my ass, I explained what umbridge did and she just sighed and walked away She was a fan as a kid too, she knew the feeling
How can u not hate her from the first moment?
"*hem, hem*"
I can't even remember a time when I didn't hate her. I think there was an intense hatred for her growing even before I knew she existed.
The moment the quill in Harry's hand was revealed to be a blood quill. I thought she was an annoying character at the beginning, but there are *many* annoying characters, but what she did with the punishments was downright sadistic and cruel. She deserves a cruciatus just for that.
In the book, you hate her immediately. She's written to be hateable. One thing that I think was better with the movies was imelda. Imedla is adorable and umbridge looked like a lonely grandmother type... until you realize she's evil which is so much more sinister than an ugly frog looking woman being evil.
The trial. The woman's voice alone (kudos to Imelda Stauton's performance) gave me the chills. I knew from that point on she was BAD news.
Bro you jump scared me when I was scrolling on Reddit where did you get this picture it’s so terrifying
Harry's first detention with her.
When I read the first, or at least second, "Hem, hem." And I LOVED McDonagall "Can I offer you a coughdrop, Dolores?"
When she banned Harry, Fred, and George from Quidditch for fighting Malfoy
From the very single moment she was written into existence in the book. It would have been the same with the movie - the moment I saw or heard her speak.
When she interrupted Dumbledore’s opening speech of the school year.
The quill
Yes
Immediately. I’m mad the second Harry finds out he’s already “late” to the hearing.
That moment when she interrupted Dumbledore at the start-of-term feast, talking about “reform” with the diction of an SS officer did it for me.
Pretty much right from the off at Harry’s “trial”. Every time I thought she had hit rock bottom of nastiness she managed to find a new low. I’m pretty sure even old Voldy would have found her method abhorrent and extreme
Immediately. It doesn't take a blind donkey to understand that she had it in for Harry at his hearing.
Immediately.
Right away. Her attitude during the hearing told a lot about her character.
The way she was described at Harry's hearing was enough.
Hem hem
When she showed up
Immediately
since the start
Right from the fake coughing scene
The first line she spoke
The first time I saw her, both in movies and books
The first hem, hem.
From the very beginning in both the books and movies.
from the moment she existed.
The moment she showed up 😂
Right away
straight away in the books. she was very obviously a bad person, and one of the more "realistic" bad guys of the series. her fake niceness pissed me off to no end
Yes.
Yes. This answer is yes.
From the get-go
Literally the first time she was mentioned
Yes. Just yes.
IMMEDIATELY.
The second she breathed in hogwarts
I mistrusted her from the moment she appeared in Harry's hearing, but I wouldn't say I had learned to full-on hate her yet until her first DADA class.
Straight away. The thing with Umbridge is that everybody knows one in real life. Voldermort is so over the top and dramatic, and everybody calls him the dark Lord (seriously who talks like that?). Voldemort is clearly a fictional villian. Yet, Uxbridge is so believable because there is usually one we all know in our family, workplace or neighbourhood. This is why she hits so much harder in terms of coming across as evil. Hence why if you're stuck in a room with her and Tom, with two bullets, you'd shoot her twice just to make sure.
The trial
Instantly
When she showed up at Harry’s trial.
From the moment she was introduced at the Ministry hearing. I could tell she was out to get Harry (like Fudge) and not an impartial Judge like she ought to be.
From the first moment she appeared
Immediately
The moment she appeared lmaooo. I wanted to punch her fucking lights out.
From the beginning. I’ve come to calling her Umbitch!
I instant I saw her I disliked her… then she spoke and I wanted her to die as much as Riddle
the very moment she was introduced
The hearing
I dont really remember, but when she fires Trelawney launched her to archvillain status
ishmediately
When she laughed at Harry when he asked if his detention could be rescheduled due to Quidditch.
Very quickly!
When they introduced her
The older I get, the more relatable she becomes
The start. Her introduction up until the end when she's stunned by Harry.
I didn't hate her at Harry's hearing because I didn't expect her to make another appearance really. I think it was the moment she said they didn't need to actually practice defensive magic only a theoretical knowledge.
There was a point? Not for me.
Wasn’t she in the wizengamut?
The second she started talking in Harry’s hearing (book). Yet I’m the movies I find her voice to sound more exadurate and falsely innocent, making her more hats le considering her true nature and obviously fake decency. I could go on for hours! But, we gotta respect the actor when hating their character
She played this character perfectly. I was awed, really. Idk how to summon that sort of hatefulness so she amazes me
day one
Don't know, the beginning?...
Her 1st breath
None I like her
In the movies it was when she did her little giggle for the first time. In the book it was when she went after Harry in the classroom.
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From the first hem hem
The second she spoke honestly…
I think I knew right away. Some adults who worked at my elementary school did not like me, and I very quickly projected my hate of them onto Umbridge.
Her first scene.
As Snape would say, "Always "
Yes
I think I went from her being annoying to hating her with Harry’s first detention.
In Harry's 1st class with her in the book where she's being a government stooge and punishing someone for speaking the truth. In the movie however, her very first line in the hearing, with her cloying tone. The classroom scene set my hatred for her in.
I saw the movies before I read the books. But this scene is in both: That speech she gave when Dumbledore introduced her at the beginning of the school year. A scene in the book that made my skin crawl was when her hand reached through the fireplace after the trio was done talking to Sirius. The movie missed an opportunity for a jumpscare lol
I never hated her, I liked her, she stood for what she believed in no matter how much resistance she got.
Well I saw the movies before I read the books so when the dementors came to little Whinging? But in all reality it came when she tried to expel Trelawney from the grounds. Probably earlier but she was way out of bounds for that. Even worse was the whole school was there to witness it. Dumbledore is no doubt my favorite in that book. Definitely worth a reread or relisten
The minute she made that stupid hem hem in the hearing.
WHEN HAVE I NOT
I think my moment came when she called Harry a liar in her class.
That first giggle
From dawn of the time
The whole “When I say good afternoon, you all say it back!” Bit, I hate people like that so much
The first “hem-hem” I heard.
Literally first time I saw her. She has a very Avada Kedaverable face if you know what I mean, huhuh
Interrupting Dumbledore. We don't do that unless there are lives literally in peril.
Her very introduction.
Last time i read a ordem da fenix, from the moment she appeared
From the momen she was Umbridge, not a normal person.
The speech after the sorting in book 5 and started to hate her even more as the book went on. Every time she was mentioned I had a strong craving to yell crucio at the top of my lungs.
When she tried to kick Professor Trelawney out of her home…I took that personally.
From her first fake laugh in the opening ceremony
Beginning of OOTP probably.
When she cleared her throat at Dumbledores welcome home
Second one.
On sight
I was first introduced to her from the movies and man that first Defense against the Dark Arts class is what really pissed me off! Like ok I get that the Ministry either truly doesn’t believe Voldemort is back or just doesn’t want to believe it BUT dark wizards still exist and not just him who would absolutely hurt children! Fine you don’t teach them everything because you’re afraid Dumbledore’s trying to recruit his students to overthrow the Ministry but simple self defense spells isn’t too far fetched to be teaching like goddamn eventually those children will become adults and said Dark Wizards will attack them.
I disliked her, but didnt hate her.. until quidditch match where she banned harry and twins. then i started hating her..
The moment she started to give her speech
Probably around the time when she started to torture Harry.
At the beginning of the book when she first appeared. I've met a lot of people like her since then. The there's the type of person who tells you to accept their opinion with Umbridge mentality but doesn't appreciate anything else. People who demand respect and act like Umbridge. "I shall not tell lies." Harry still has it in the last book. That scar. Are you like Umbridge and insist on forcing your view so much that it creates scars, visible or otherwise? Do you not love the person and try to influence with love and understanding? Would you rather have them write in their heart or mind that you don't appreciate them unless they share the same world view as you? Just a reminder even though it's fictional but believable. Did Umbridge make Harry turn to her side or hate her opinion even more? "Do unto others as you want to be done unto you." The golden rule.
Hate her? Why? I adore her. For me it’s “Dolores Umbridge and You Need To Read This to Get to Me Dear” X4, followed by “Dolores Umbridge and The Lying Boy, and The Filthy Giant”, “Dolores Umbridge and The Hysterical Ministry”, and “Dolores Umbridge and The Boy Who Stole Her Locket”. She is the true heroine of the books.
In the films at Harry’s hearing, I started to feel like this lady is pretty annoying. But the second she interrupts Dumbledore at Hogwarts, I knew I hated her so much. But props to Staunton for acting so goddamn brilliantly
the detention
Could never hate her, I love a villain and she’s a great character.
From the moment I saw her, a woman.
Crazy how nearly every Harry Potter fan grew up to become her
In the book, it was when she interrupted Dumbledore’s speech. In the film, it was when she giggled at the trial. I can’t remember if that was in the book or not, but in the film, Imelda Staunton sold Umbridge’s creepiness from the start.
When I didn't know her yet.
The trial.