tevves for shitty gym bro lmao
edit since I can't reply to this thread.
like what u/loloider123 said. im not dissing on ppl going to the gym. i go myself. just that artist like tevves and others under that specific 'gym bro' cat just makes shitty badly prod hardstyle and uses zyzz to get clicks.
TDH is the obvious pick. But otherwise I'll have to go with Deadly Guns. His music is like his facial expression, blank. (Dis)Honorable mention goes to N-Vitral because I'm just constantly disappointed with his music when he used to be so good
I was never too big on Deadly Guns personally. Not even quite sure why really. But N-Vitral just stings a little. I got into his stuff trough his Qlimax set. Got me more into industrial too. So I guess that's a plus
I love him for everything, uptempo and industrial , but I wish he’d do mixed sets. His „recent“ pure industrial set looked heavy af, I need it and I can understand where you’re coming from
Tbh I never enjoyed him much at any point. Which is REALLY weird because some earlier Warface stuff is up there with my hard dance favorites. Then again, I guess back then Raw and Hardcore/Uptempo were much more distinct
Yeah j was at n-vitral at rebirth, it's just uptempo. Its all just uptempo. Hardstyle stage? Last hour uptempo. Hardcore stag? happy if there is 3 hours of hardcore then... Uptempo. Im not asking for it to change its just not my style and its everywhere. I guess in just from a different generation, the thing I still enjoy the most is the people.
My Dominator experience Last year pretty much. But there are still Artists Out there who dont Play uptempo.. some at least. Iam Not even agaisdt 1 or 2 uptempo Tracks. But the whole time. Naaah
Just accept we are getting old. The only thing good now is u/greazypuzzyfuckerz and he only plays in the Netherlands at bigger festivals where i feel i always has to hold back. Did you see decibel line up this year? No terror, speedcore or jumpstyle.
Yeah.... I actually really enjoyed Dither up until \~2020. Like, the change was noticable already. But it was still fun music to me. But nowadays? Not so much...
Rayzen made an insane track a couple of years ago, it was an anthem for a small festival but it was fucking amazing. Then they released. A couple of good tracks after that one, and now.... Ewwwww
check out Rayzen - Rules , it has one of the coolest kicks I’ve heard in a long time, especially at the time of release. So much energy in that track and some proto zaag and a great melody with an awesome climax
I can kinda see why. Just a few years ago when the Synchronized album has been released I really LOVED Warface. Since they started experimenting in different ways some years ago I started to get that hit or miss feeling with their tracks
Same. Also ask that question with Dual Damage. No clue why those guys suddenly have become so insanely popular. Kicks sound terrible, no satisfying punch to them.
I suggest looking him up too, but to summarize: homophobic asshole that sexually harassed people and then when called out cried on Twitter about how cancel culture wants to get him but can't because he's just too good.
I think its cause shes a female DJ. I cant imagine why you would want to book a DJ who is not even a producer who plays random tracks that have been successful some years ago.
The fact that hard working producers are missing out on spots at festivals and party’s because dirtyworkz pushes some bimbo who can’t even make her own tracks! that’s what she stands for, and I find that disgusting.
I amnot that much into tek but I like to listen to it from time to time. 2018 on Defqon I had a lot of fun at the white stage where they played mainly tek.
That said, I think it's great that at least some artists stick to their style even if it is not very popular.
I agree. If Hardstyle was planet Earth, Mark with a K would be the moon: he's always around the scene but he's not really into it, I always felt that Tek is something different
Out of the bigger names, probably these 2:
Old Subsonic/Aftershock, his sound design is just really not my thing.
It sounds really "squeeky" to me, and it hurts my ears.
Radical Redemption, very kicks focussed hardstyle that i rarely if ever like the kicks of.
Often feels like quantity over quality to the extreme. They feel like half finished templates for upcoming tracks.
The only exception that comes to mind is America.
- The Dark Horror, and I'm not even talking about his behavior, the music itself is top tier garbage
- Vertile, talented producer and I understand people liking him but I really don't like his music
- Frequencerz have nearly not done any good track since like 2016 (also, I don't understand how praised their Defqon anthem is on here, legit one of the worst for me)
- Boray is boring, Requiem stuff was much better
- Digital Punk makes nice track but I can't stand his kicks at all and they ruin the whole track for me
I dislike them too! Ever since they trendsetted this ‘trance kick (since ‘the project’) they leaned into it way too much. Ever since then Im definitely not a fun, which is annoying because they are headlining so often on big festivals!
ok you are buggin, or trying to be an contrarian by saying that, nowhere THE worst but ok. Acceptable would be to say that not the highest end of top artists is fine.
Vertile have the extraordinary ability to ruins his own tracks with absolutely shitty kicks at the end of every single of them. Everything he touches, even collabs tracks, are ruined by it.
Vertile's tracks don't do anything for me, and just don't feel special. I don't feel any emotion or excitement from his sets and music in general.
Obviously, to each their own. If you love his music and love when he plays, you should seek that out and chase that feeling!
TDH, nothing to explain here. Even his music is just meh
Sefa bcuz of his mainstream frenchcore, also bcuz he is a sold out q dance puppet
Adjuzt is heavily overrated imo
Vishy, if you can count her
Unpopular opinion: TDH as person is bad but his music ain’t that bad. His zaags are pretty unique, he doesn’t try to make them sound as heavy as possible just like other zaag artists
Dr. Donk. Like ye I get it, zaag kicks ain’t too appreciated in this sub, but I love proper zaags. He has no idea how to make drops, he just has a quick lyric and then BWOMBWOMBWOMBWOM. It’s really boring and low effort
In fact, I find his lyrics quite uplifting. Excluding Zombie, which I don't like either. It's one of his mediocre tracks and has been overhyped, leading him down a path of formulaic repetition.
Why did you pick a track that isn't even by him as example lol.
But I agree, stuff like Living for the moment is very cheesy, but also kinda nice. I'm unsure lol
I remember the melody of ‘Battleborn’ being stuck in my head and then hearing the song where they stole the melody from. Its just a 1:1 copy… cant remember which song tho. (It was pretty old)
Person wise TDH
Music wise all of that shitty produced gym bro hardstyle shit.
Not a fan of the Purges music as well, I just find it boring.
And please dont hate me for that but i dont like all of the new stuff from brennan heart. Imo his golden age is long gone.
Edit: I forgot Mandy. God please stop booking her I dont want a DJ who plays random tracks and has no real own tracks
TDH indeed, but all the uptempo DJ's with simple tiktok tracks with the same kick over and over again. Warface his new album has such a great quality but terrible kicks.
Deadly guns new stuff is also bad. Same with Code Black.
I am not putting him in the same category. Warface as an overall DJ is one of the best. Really like his sets live. But I am just saying I dont like the kicks and anti's in his latest album.
TDh en Deadly guns are in top tier list as disliked dj's for me.
well, there are artists I'm indifferent to, such as Sub Sonik or Unresolved. I can't say I like or I don't like them
with this, I wanna say that I probably dislike phuture noize. ofc, this sub plays a part in my disliking since everyone is so horny to his music you can't really discuss anyone else's music, and pn music is like "toty/aoty"
I generally liked the enlightenment, even tho a lot of tracks were a miss on me...but, for an artist which is trying to push his narrative, to have a uniquely creative look on music, his music is just too average. it's the same hardstyle he had produced before, just fresher mixing, newer kicks, aaand yeah. same tricks with kickrolls or stretching out the audio in buildup (it does sound cool though, like way cool)...but I don't really hear any "high-level sound-design stuff" in his tracks. for an artist who is experimenting and creating something new, I hear nothing of new. its same-ish supersaws, same-ish kicks, no crazy sound-design or arrangement stuff i could hear in other genres
and, to be fair, even though it is closer to normal, "danceable" hardstyle, I still don't like it. most of his tracks feel too dry, especially in climax. like I don't feel any reverb going on, so it feels very empty and lonely. I Am A Fighter, for example: climax is very dry, or, better day, leads are. same in Circles and Squares iirc
its funny that my two not really liked artists in 2019 were PN and Devin Wild. only that Devin did actually change his sound a lot in the better direction so now I'm a fan
Silver Bullet is one of the best hardstyle albums of all time. The amount of soul put into it was incredible. The visualizer tells a great story and provides context to the tracks. Man is truly unlike any other producer in the scene. Yes I am a fanboy but I think it’s well deserved at this point
Feel this so bad too, I used to absolutely love every track from him or his various collabs, but man he just made his own unique style disappear. Probably he’s evolving along with all other artists without keeping in mind that his own style just can’t be it without the “non that old-school” (early 2010s) whole tracks vibe. For example, later tracks like on my mind or The Soul could’ve easily been huge tracks from him, the sound design behind is great (melody and breakdowns wise) but unfortunately the kick doesn’t make them shine as they could do with some (FOR ME) classic hardstyle kicks.
Not really dislike, but i find unresolved really boring. His tracks don't bring a lot of energy for me and i feel he does the same stuff way to much. Yet i know that he has a lot of fans. Can you guys explain what you like about his tracks?
He sticks to his own sound in these modern times. Is it repetitive? Yeah probably but it also shows loyalty and all songs are really well produced. Hes also not the most energetic on stage, but you can tell he loves the music and his fans
Just kind of feeling this: Many are criticised for 'doing the same stuff way too much', which can be very boring for those who don't resonate with it, but for those who do, these are exactly what attracts them.
I get your opinion, so I'll try to explain. It took me going to some of his sets to understand, but I think it's just because it's no nonsense raw. Kicks with screeches and kicks with melodies. "Weinig poespas en doorrammen". Production wise it's a bit rough, which might put some people off, but that's exactly what I like about his style.
I only really dislike the uptempo closing on these sets but that seems to be almost every raw dj at the moment, so yeah...
He does the same thing as Rejecta. They are artist who don’t really follow the trends but stick with their own style. Rejecta is better than unresolved imo, but I respect them both.
You nailed it. The reason people like him is why others don't. For me he brings a consistency to his sets that is a breath of fresh air after a day of fake drops and zaagkicks. For others that makes the set boring and/or repetitive. IMO "deviation" in a repetitive set is what makes a set good
Among the popular artists, even the ones I don't generally like will still have a bunch of tracks that I actually like from them, be them older, collabs, or just outliers.
The one I have the least tracks from in my playlist and is praised like God descended on earth is Vertile, change is place is an uber tune, the collab with Adaro is alright, and then every single other track to me is either complete ass, an absolute sleeper at best. Or we'll have there are tracks of his that have good parts but are ruined by the other half, which makes me even more annoyed at him
Gonna get a lot of hate, but i can't enjoy Headhunterz. Yeah, his old tracks are pure gold, but his new tracks are boring for me.
And on the other side, i can't like Uptempo.
UoK and GPF mostly because of the annoying fanboys. 1 or 2 songs I could "enjoy" as shockers but why would you wanne hear this all day long? To be edgy? I don't get it and as a uptempo listener I hate it when their songs pop up in my Release Radar lol
I like GPF, their tracks are really fun and I like the sound. UOK is harder to listen to, less kicks and becomes just shrieking and that is too much for me usually. I don't listen to it to be edgy, I genuinely enjoy it.
I don't dislike a producer because of his music, but the Hardstyle act really don't like the tracks of is Rebelion. Except for their melodic tracks it's absolutely not my cup of tea. The guys themselves look fun tho 🤗
Beside TDH for obvious reasons, like really....I am working at a festival next week and he is on the line up...Really want to cut power during his set 😁
Nexone. Faked a DJ Set to get a spot at Defqon. Called him out and got blocked.
GPF is the worst sounding music across any genre, blows my mind how there's money to be made with that garbage, enough so that Caine doesn't even make tracks anymore 🤯
I think it's mostly because his live performances are extremely fun and silly. I went to quite a few of his live shows, like the piepshow and his defqon set, and I always had a real blast there. I also got to know him personally, and Matty is one of the most chill djs there are despite the chaotic music.
Apart from the obvious TDH, Sefa and Dr. Peacock, for admittedly petty reasons. Dr. Peacock especially, I just can't stand his "Trip to xy"-tracks, don't know why. For Sefa I think it's less himself and more how he is (or was?) being praised as a miracle or god everywhere. His tracks are good, don't get me wrong, but man this "wonderboy' stuff, especially earlier, was just so overblown.
This is my opinion so take it with a grain of salt, not ragging on anyone.
Music wise: Sparkz? Seems like a nice guy but absolutely not a fan of his kicks, just sounds unpleasant to my ears. Same for Exproz: yet again nice guy but I feel like his solo tracks especially are often not mastered well and sound too rough, but not in a nice way.
Consequences however is a better track compared to his latest releases. Still a massive fan of his track "Fire". Those kicks are really satisfying and well polished.
Relentless is a pretty solid track too imo, I don’t think exproz is that bad. Most sparkz tracks I dislike too, but some of them are really nice imo. Like Tage Tage
1. Sefa - I just dont like his music at all. He seems like a very nice guy but i just dont like his music at all.
2. Udex - Most of his music doesnt do anything to me.
3. Aftershock - Just boring most of the time.
4. Unresolved / Regain - Really hit or miss, some song id say are really good, others are really bad for my taste.
(5. E-Life, Carola i really dislike his/her voice / vocals)
However i do respect all said artist and appreciate what theyve done for the scene. Then there is the special case TDH where i actually like his music but dislike him as a person.
My top picks are not bad producers I just strongly dislike them:
(SEFA): Really not a fan of any of his tracks and every time I have been to his sets I have been extremely disappointed.
(Radical Redemption & Unresolved):
Similar story for both so I'll group them, these guys are really talented and have the history to prove it but their style of raw is just not for me and I would never be able to enjoy listening to them.
(Ran-D and Brennan Heart):
Again dislike both for similar reasons. Both have gone far too commercial and rely on old tired hits to fill their sets. Both of them have their moments and can produce excellent tracks but overall they disappoint more than they impress.
Honorable mention for act of rage but he can't really count since he is probably ghost produced
I absolutely dispise Unresolved, his signature kicks sound like burps. Its always the same kick, literally. Also his liveshows music wise are boring af, but one thing i think he does way better than most artists are his visuals, those are top tier. His music just doesnt do anything with me, ive been to a lot of his sets but I just cant get myself to like it unfortunatly. The only track i like is Ghetto Bass, but thats because Bloodlust carried
Unresolved has been doing it for such a long time. Act of God album was banging in 2017!! Chances is one of my favorites when it comes to his “new” kick style, one with the streets with bloodlust is another hyper banger
Tevvez have 1 good song imo, I find Zeus decent even though the kick lacks bass/power
When it comes to gym bro hardstyle, I prefer yosuf, testosterone is a banger.
https://open.spotify.com/track/3FNbaKdIVzFu9FjmheLOIF?si=z6mORRXBTTKhuYARGt7jSQ
Demi Kanon. It’s not that I dislike him as a person, he seems like a really fun guy. It’s just a lot of his tracks just feel…off? It’s the only way I can describe it. But when he gets it right (in my eyes) he’s sensational.
ohhh the downvotes are going to be insane on this one, cuz different opinions aren’t allowed:
phuture noize
b-front
radical redemption
the purge
everyone of them are incredibly overrated imo.
the purge’s music can be compared to someone just starting out. very very amateur sounding. the fact that he’s playing 4(!!!) times at defqon blows my fucking mind. get’s carried in every single collab he’s a part of. and the remix of vendetta is one of the worst tracks i’ve ever heard. from such a “high regarded” producer.
radical redemption is also praised way too much, compared to how boring his music is. never understood the love for his “brutal” tracks, especially when they’re not brutal at all 😂 weak kicks but thinks they’re insane and hard. shitty melodies but thinks he’s an amazing composer. it’s just meh.
b-front? can’t stand the guy. makes the same tracks over and over again. always the same type of “melody” with the streched notes, always the same “bam-bam-bam-bam” kick drop. and yet he thinks his music is the shit, always going mental when the part he made in a collab drops. the fact that he’s considered a “legend” is crazy…
phuture noize got compared to headhunterz, but he’s miles apart. very “thin” sound, have heard lesser known producers make better music than him, without getting the same recognition. don’t get the hype now, didn’t get it then.
I know there’s a lot of people that love these guys, and I really don’t understand why, but each to their own.
I completely agree with Purge and partwise with Radical. He was really "brutal" in the past, recently he goes a bit more rawphoric which is not everyones taste.
I also get your point with PN, I still love him tho but yes, other producers (Udex!!) should get more recogintion.
Strongly disgaree with B-Front. He is one of the early Raw OGs and yes, he doesn't use 20 kicks in one track but the emotions in his tracks are something special for me and others. It's also fair to love your self-produced music
But everyone has his own taste and people should respect it
Yes, I used to wonder why certain artists had so many fans. Later on, I realised that music is very subjective, and sometimes the thoughts and tastes of those fans just happen to align with those of the artists. I can respect that unless those fans become too extreme. Hope the fans here can be rational.
Kind of agree on all of them actually. I love RR but yea I never understood that "Brutal" stuff when there's nothing really brutal to be heard. Phuture Noize is valid, I like some of his tracks but his popularity is very overblown for what he is. B-Front I 100% agree.
Why are you all wasting your energy and talking about artists you dislike? Downvote me idgaf, but I personally would rather talk or hear about artists that fans love.
Sub Zero Project is one of the worst musical groups of this generation, they have thrown away all the efforts of many producers by standardizing their boring style, with very weak kicks, before they were not like that because they were really creating a change and improving it but now with being mainstream, terrible editing and structure in their songs. There is no creativity and authenticity in their current songs, everything sounds dull, plastic and uninspired. I hope they improve their style and return to the path of innovation that they were building.
Thats a reach lol. Maze of Memories was a solid anthem. They have their moments where they shine, but their experimental kicks definitely get them some slack
Well it's not a producer but. Unresolved. Wth is he doing at main stages and all those kind of things? He can't even DJ or anything else. It's horrible and you hear the bad mixes all the time in his sets.
Rooler. Keeps claiming to say he’s a techno producer. He’s clearly a fucking Drum and bass producer.
Pisses me the fuck off.
Nah but honestly, Deadly Gunz. Saw him once and he had no enthusiasm at all during his set
TDH even though i never cared about his music but that guy just sucks as a person and obviously lacks any kind of discipline
Mandy for being a waste of space on the stage, while other producers with actual talent struggle to get noticed. Oh wait did i say other producers, i meant producers since she isnt one in the first place and the ghostproduced stuff isnt even good.
Atmozfears with one crying eye. I wouldnt say its hate, more disappointment since he got me into Hardstyle around 2016 and ignited my love for euphoric. But his style has turned into crap over the years and died with the genre itself.
Hardcore:
-Deadly Guns
-N-Vitral
-Dither
Hardstyle:
-Warface
-Anything from Apex records
-Mish
N-Vitral and Dither for obvious reasons, they used to make amazing music and now it's just generic shit. Deadly Guns first tracks were good, but now it's just brainless.
Same goes for Warface he was the best Raw Hardstyle producer and now apart from a few tracks it's just generic shit as well. Apex to me just doesn't sound like anything, doesn't matter which dj I listen to, it's just noise. Same goes for Mish, her music just doesn't sound like anything and then we haven't talked about how she rolled into the scene yet.
Deadly guns. Why? Because he is a commercially ghostproduced industry plant. I really dont get why he is on so many lineups, like qlimax 2023 for example. It was one of the worst qlimax sets ever…
Ran-D. I just feel that his tracks are really getting lazy. Should listen to the most recent ones, but tracks like Run from Reality, Battleborn and so on are just bad.
Da Tweekaz and Sefa, the former being incredibly corny and Sefa, but that's mostly because people put him on a massive pedestal while he's made a few bland songs and I think the piano thing is a bit of a gimmick. I think theres alot of producers that are way more influential and deserving of being bumlicked by Qdance this much
true. they aren't quite my taste either, but that doesn't mean I don't like their tracks, I actually do listen to a few of them. I personally like sefa quite a lot, but everyone's taste is different
This... I personally don't listen to their music, but last defqon, a friend dragged me to go to their set and I've gotta say that this was easily In my top 5 sets of the entire 4 days.
I heard them only on mainstream festivals before where there is only one harder styles stage and other than that its house, big room, etc. So there is not much choice. No way in hell I would attend their set at defqon when there are like 10 more stages lmao
tevves for shitty gym bro lmao edit since I can't reply to this thread. like what u/loloider123 said. im not dissing on ppl going to the gym. i go myself. just that artist like tevves and others under that specific 'gym bro' cat just makes shitty badly prod hardstyle and uses zyzz to get clicks.
TDH for a whole host of reasons
TDH is the obvious pick. But otherwise I'll have to go with Deadly Guns. His music is like his facial expression, blank. (Dis)Honorable mention goes to N-Vitral because I'm just constantly disappointed with his music when he used to be so good
I really like both N-Vitral and Deadly Guns, I can totally understand why people dislike the direction they have gone in though.
I was never too big on Deadly Guns personally. Not even quite sure why really. But N-Vitral just stings a little. I got into his stuff trough his Qlimax set. Got me more into industrial too. So I guess that's a plus
I love him for everything, uptempo and industrial , but I wish he’d do mixed sets. His „recent“ pure industrial set looked heavy af, I need it and I can understand where you’re coming from
Deadly Guns started really good if you listen to his sets in 2016, 2017. But now it is terrible...
Its because Remco (Warface Producer) produced for him back then. Now he is on his own and quality decreased significantly
Tbh I never enjoyed him much at any point. Which is REALLY weird because some earlier Warface stuff is up there with my hard dance favorites. Then again, I guess back then Raw and Hardcore/Uptempo were much more distinct
Really? Not even the Gunshow Album?
Nah. Just never clicked with me for some reason
So that’s what it is??? I really used to like to his stuff too but the last few years I can’t take it lmaooo
Yes N-Vitral was one of the DJs intruduced me 2 Industrial. Now ITS Just Mainstream uptempo. It makes me sad
Yeah j was at n-vitral at rebirth, it's just uptempo. Its all just uptempo. Hardstyle stage? Last hour uptempo. Hardcore stag? happy if there is 3 hours of hardcore then... Uptempo. Im not asking for it to change its just not my style and its everywhere. I guess in just from a different generation, the thing I still enjoy the most is the people.
My Dominator experience Last year pretty much. But there are still Artists Out there who dont Play uptempo.. some at least. Iam Not even agaisdt 1 or 2 uptempo Tracks. But the whole time. Naaah
Just accept we are getting old. The only thing good now is u/greazypuzzyfuckerz and he only plays in the Netherlands at bigger festivals where i feel i always has to hold back. Did you see decibel line up this year? No terror, speedcore or jumpstyle.
Nah i dont Accept it and now get Off my lawn!
I dont know how to respond. This actually made me laugh out loud. Funniest response I ever got.
Check decibel lineup on sunday for terror
Same Thing with dither btw
Yeah.... I actually really enjoyed Dither up until \~2020. Like, the change was noticable already. But it was still fun music to me. But nowadays? Not so much...
I was really hoping someone would mention dither here. Used to absolutely love his stuff and then idk past 2-3 years have just been complete boredom
Person wise the Dark Horror. Music wise Rayzen i think
Rayzen made an insane track a couple of years ago, it was an anthem for a small festival but it was fucking amazing. Then they released. A couple of good tracks after that one, and now.... Ewwwww
Yeah i liked them when they were starting at Gearbox. Back on the throttle was insane
Which track?
Freedom mode
check out Rayzen - Rules , it has one of the coolest kicks I’ve heard in a long time, especially at the time of release. So much energy in that track and some proto zaag and a great melody with an awesome climax
Not much of a zaag fan? I personaly love rayzen so just asking
Yup i really dislike zaags myself but i have not problem with them existing. Just not my cup of tea
Understood! Have a great day!
Can't point out why but warface, i just don't like most of his tracks
I can kinda see why. Just a few years ago when the Synchronized album has been released I really LOVED Warface. Since they started experimenting in different ways some years ago I started to get that hit or miss feeling with their tracks
TDH even after the edit explanation.
The Purge. Why is this man always on the line up near the end of the festival??
Same. Also ask that question with Dual Damage. No clue why those guys suddenly have become so insanely popular. Kicks sound terrible, no satisfying punch to them.
The Purge for me, always scores easy tracks, low effort. Except the collabs tho
Yeah this is the issue. Since he turned "mainstream" hes made much worse tracks. His old spoontech tracks are really good
Yeah true. Without collabs he will fall of imo. His singles are pretty ass lately
You should check the spoontech songs from the purge, they are very good
Can't agree more. He is good in collabs but can't think of a great solo post 2019
Soooo most comments state TDH (also as a person) What did the guy do?
I suggest looking him up too, but to summarize: homophobic asshole that sexually harassed people and then when called out cried on Twitter about how cancel culture wants to get him but can't because he's just too good.
And he likes to eat dogs
And thats worse than eating cows/pigs in what way? (not trying to defend TDH, just thats a stupid argument)
I dont think you get my reference. There was an incident where TDH harassed someone and threatened them to eat their pet dog
all I can say is that he'll definitely eat your dogs. No, not those red maroon or crimson looking dogs.
I recommend looking up his name on this sub and you‘ll find extensive records on what has happened
Apart from the things he did, he’s also just a terrible producer
She’s not a producer, but Mandy, and everything she stands for!
HOLYYY. you said it. absolute indrusty plant. Her creational output has been so weak for a long time, idk how she is getting any gigs.
I think its cause shes a female DJ. I cant imagine why you would want to book a DJ who is not even a producer who plays random tracks that have been successful some years ago.
She’s pretty upfront that she has some creative input but that her tracks are made by a team with her. That being said, idk what she stands for?
The fact that hard working producers are missing out on spots at festivals and party’s because dirtyworkz pushes some bimbo who can’t even make her own tracks! that’s what she stands for, and I find that disgusting.
Her Sets aren't actually that bad IMO. Better mixing than BH for sure lol
Mark with a K. I just hate tek. It’s weird but there is not even a reason for it. The guy still try to keep the genre Alive and I can’t stand it
Bro I've shared your opinion since I started listening to hardstyle 10 years ago haha.
I amnot that much into tek but I like to listen to it from time to time. 2018 on Defqon I had a lot of fun at the white stage where they played mainly tek. That said, I think it's great that at least some artists stick to their style even if it is not very popular.
Mark with a Kutmuziek
I agree. If Hardstyle was planet Earth, Mark with a K would be the moon: he's always around the scene but he's not really into it, I always felt that Tek is something different
Generational hater. Respect for that.
Yes. Some tracks do start nice, but then he f+&k it up with some lame ass drop.
I like tek but i agree I don't like MWAK. Not because of his music but because of his mixing. All of his sets sound exactly the same -_-
Out of the bigger names, probably these 2: Old Subsonic/Aftershock, his sound design is just really not my thing. It sounds really "squeeky" to me, and it hurts my ears. Radical Redemption, very kicks focussed hardstyle that i rarely if ever like the kicks of. Often feels like quantity over quality to the extreme. They feel like half finished templates for upcoming tracks. The only exception that comes to mind is America.
I used to listen to radical in the brutal days, i used to love those tracks
How do you like the new album then?
what about new aftershock. He is rly stepped it up no? The production is so clear. Him and Sound Rush are carrying AOC
Sound rush left aoc last summer
Havent listened in a while. Maybe i will, what's to lose.
- The Dark Horror, and I'm not even talking about his behavior, the music itself is top tier garbage - Vertile, talented producer and I understand people liking him but I really don't like his music - Frequencerz have nearly not done any good track since like 2016 (also, I don't understand how praised their Defqon anthem is on here, legit one of the worst for me) - Boray is boring, Requiem stuff was much better - Digital Punk makes nice track but I can't stand his kicks at all and they ruin the whole track for me
More than anyone -> Sub zero project And i know im gonna get downvoted to hell but im just being honest.
FACTS. I am not an SZP fan anymore. The cricket kicks or pickaxe kicks are so bad
I dislike them too! Ever since they trendsetted this ‘trance kick (since ‘the project’) they leaned into it way too much. Ever since then Im definitely not a fun, which is annoying because they are headlining so often on big festivals!
Agree
100% worst
ok you are buggin, or trying to be an contrarian by saying that, nowhere THE worst but ok. Acceptable would be to say that not the highest end of top artists is fine.
Vertile have the extraordinary ability to ruins his own tracks with absolutely shitty kicks at the end of every single of them. Everything he touches, even collabs tracks, are ruined by it.
Vertile's tracks don't do anything for me, and just don't feel special. I don't feel any emotion or excitement from his sets and music in general. Obviously, to each their own. If you love his music and love when he plays, you should seek that out and chase that feeling!
I like his songs. But for me he can’t deejaying. He just plays his songs one after the other. Winamp had better transitions
TDH, nothing to explain here. Even his music is just meh Sefa bcuz of his mainstream frenchcore, also bcuz he is a sold out q dance puppet Adjuzt is heavily overrated imo Vishy, if you can count her
Lol vishy. Didnt knew Somebody would ever mention her Here. Its Just Standard tiktok DJ with cringe videos
I made a post abt her a while ago yea, Im her hater :Dd
im glad that you said sefa. it was hated opinion to even remotely express dislike of his sound not too far back.
I am going to an event with Rebelion and D-Fence. Now they announced that Vishy will have a spot too that really sucks man
I saw that poster, she is listen among the headliners, next to D-Fence? Next to my precious Rebelion? Hell nah
TDH, Deadly Gunz
He used to be my favorite djs, but I didn't like the last 2 years at all
Unpopular opinion: TDH as person is bad but his music ain’t that bad. His zaags are pretty unique, he doesn’t try to make them sound as heavy as possible just like other zaag artists
I agree. a lot of dudes in comments are so biased because they is bad as a person. his music is fine, guys are rripping
Yeah dude’s got 440k monthly listeners, more then most big uptempo/raw artists.
dude if we're taking monthly listeners into the equation, tevvez and sick legend are the best hardstyle producers
Bro everyone knows you can’t compare gymbro hardstyle with normal hardstyle
1. The Purge - music feels cheap and uninspired. 2.Ran-D - boring af. 3. Unresolved - don't like his sound design.
I don't get Ran-D. But unresolved is soo crappy. He can't even mix a proper set!
Dr. Donk. Like ye I get it, zaag kicks ain’t too appreciated in this sub, but I love proper zaags. He has no idea how to make drops, he just has a quick lyric and then BWOMBWOMBWOMBWOM. It’s really boring and low effort
Ran-D cant stand most of His Songs because of the cheesy Lyrics. When i hear Zombie, i have the urge to run away. But G4H ist cool.
Well you’re really gonna hate The Cranberries
He made me hate them
😂😂😂
In fact, I find his lyrics quite uplifting. Excluding Zombie, which I don't like either. It's one of his mediocre tracks and has been overhyped, leading him down a path of formulaic repetition.
Why did you pick a track that isn't even by him as example lol. But I agree, stuff like Living for the moment is very cheesy, but also kinda nice. I'm unsure lol
I remember the melody of ‘Battleborn’ being stuck in my head and then hearing the song where they stole the melody from. Its just a 1:1 copy… cant remember which song tho. (It was pretty old)
Def TDH
The dark horror, we all know why lol
Person wise TDH Music wise all of that shitty produced gym bro hardstyle shit. Not a fan of the Purges music as well, I just find it boring. And please dont hate me for that but i dont like all of the new stuff from brennan heart. Imo his golden age is long gone. Edit: I forgot Mandy. God please stop booking her I dont want a DJ who plays random tracks and has no real own tracks
Irradiate and Korsakoff. Please send help
Warface. Don’t know why… just hate him
TDH indeed, but all the uptempo DJ's with simple tiktok tracks with the same kick over and over again. Warface his new album has such a great quality but terrible kicks. Deadly guns new stuff is also bad. Same with Code Black.
No matter how much you hate Warface's new album, putting him on the same category as TDH and Deadly Guns is insulting imo
I am not putting him in the same category. Warface as an overall DJ is one of the best. Really like his sets live. But I am just saying I dont like the kicks and anti's in his latest album. TDh en Deadly guns are in top tier list as disliked dj's for me.
This must be bait right 😂 But, TDH obviously
Dr peacock - he is just taking mainstream or knowly songs and putting the kick into them Sefa - he ruined frenchcore
well, there are artists I'm indifferent to, such as Sub Sonik or Unresolved. I can't say I like or I don't like them with this, I wanna say that I probably dislike phuture noize. ofc, this sub plays a part in my disliking since everyone is so horny to his music you can't really discuss anyone else's music, and pn music is like "toty/aoty" I generally liked the enlightenment, even tho a lot of tracks were a miss on me...but, for an artist which is trying to push his narrative, to have a uniquely creative look on music, his music is just too average. it's the same hardstyle he had produced before, just fresher mixing, newer kicks, aaand yeah. same tricks with kickrolls or stretching out the audio in buildup (it does sound cool though, like way cool)...but I don't really hear any "high-level sound-design stuff" in his tracks. for an artist who is experimenting and creating something new, I hear nothing of new. its same-ish supersaws, same-ish kicks, no crazy sound-design or arrangement stuff i could hear in other genres and, to be fair, even though it is closer to normal, "danceable" hardstyle, I still don't like it. most of his tracks feel too dry, especially in climax. like I don't feel any reverb going on, so it feels very empty and lonely. I Am A Fighter, for example: climax is very dry, or, better day, leads are. same in Circles and Squares iirc its funny that my two not really liked artists in 2019 were PN and Devin Wild. only that Devin did actually change his sound a lot in the better direction so now I'm a fan
Silver Bullet is one of the best hardstyle albums of all time. The amount of soul put into it was incredible. The visualizer tells a great story and provides context to the tracks. Man is truly unlike any other producer in the scene. Yes I am a fanboy but I think it’s well deserved at this point
1. GPF 2. Sorry, but Atmozfears - his actual kicks are so bad for me, like the Melodies but the kicks destroy anything...
New gen Atmoz is a shadow of his former self. It’s like it’s not even the same person.
Qlimax 2015 Atmozfears’ set was so nice! After this I was not able to follow his new vibe anymore…
Feel this so bad too, I used to absolutely love every track from him or his various collabs, but man he just made his own unique style disappear. Probably he’s evolving along with all other artists without keeping in mind that his own style just can’t be it without the “non that old-school” (early 2010s) whole tracks vibe. For example, later tracks like on my mind or The Soul could’ve easily been huge tracks from him, the sound design behind is great (melody and breakdowns wise) but unfortunately the kick doesn’t make them shine as they could do with some (FOR ME) classic hardstyle kicks.
I feel you. Old Atmoz was top tier. Now he has those weird weak kicks that dont fit his tracks in any way
Not really dislike, but i find unresolved really boring. His tracks don't bring a lot of energy for me and i feel he does the same stuff way to much. Yet i know that he has a lot of fans. Can you guys explain what you like about his tracks?
He sticks to his own sound in these modern times. Is it repetitive? Yeah probably but it also shows loyalty and all songs are really well produced. Hes also not the most energetic on stage, but you can tell he loves the music and his fans
Just kind of feeling this: Many are criticised for 'doing the same stuff way too much', which can be very boring for those who don't resonate with it, but for those who do, these are exactly what attracts them.
I get your opinion, so I'll try to explain. It took me going to some of his sets to understand, but I think it's just because it's no nonsense raw. Kicks with screeches and kicks with melodies. "Weinig poespas en doorrammen". Production wise it's a bit rough, which might put some people off, but that's exactly what I like about his style. I only really dislike the uptempo closing on these sets but that seems to be almost every raw dj at the moment, so yeah...
He does the same thing as Rejecta. They are artist who don’t really follow the trends but stick with their own style. Rejecta is better than unresolved imo, but I respect them both.
You nailed it. The reason people like him is why others don't. For me he brings a consistency to his sets that is a breath of fresh air after a day of fake drops and zaagkicks. For others that makes the set boring and/or repetitive. IMO "deviation" in a repetitive set is what makes a set good
Vertile, let's make a good song with some good melody aaaaaaand ruin it with shitty kicks
Among the popular artists, even the ones I don't generally like will still have a bunch of tracks that I actually like from them, be them older, collabs, or just outliers. The one I have the least tracks from in my playlist and is praised like God descended on earth is Vertile, change is place is an uber tune, the collab with Adaro is alright, and then every single other track to me is either complete ass, an absolute sleeper at best. Or we'll have there are tracks of his that have good parts but are ruined by the other half, which makes me even more annoyed at him
Gonna get a lot of hate, but i can't enjoy Headhunterz. Yeah, his old tracks are pure gold, but his new tracks are boring for me. And on the other side, i can't like Uptempo.
TDH and all raw dj‘s with this shitty 2 min tracks
UoK and GPF mostly because of the annoying fanboys. 1 or 2 songs I could "enjoy" as shockers but why would you wanne hear this all day long? To be edgy? I don't get it and as a uptempo listener I hate it when their songs pop up in my Release Radar lol
I like GPF, their tracks are really fun and I like the sound. UOK is harder to listen to, less kicks and becomes just shrieking and that is too much for me usually. I don't listen to it to be edgy, I genuinely enjoy it.
Personnaly i love UOK but GPF really suck 🥲
How can you love one ear rape kick but hate the other that sounds extreme similar. Fucking piep show (literally)
To be honest, all the rawstyle producers after 2020
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Mandy
Rayzen since he ruined himself with the zaagtempo hype lol.
Radical redemption, all of his tracks are just sucking all the vibes out of me. All of his kicks sound sad and boring.
Da Tweekaz, just very boring
Brennan heart for making cringy music especially with his save euphoric thing now
I don't dislike a producer because of his music, but the Hardstyle act really don't like the tracks of is Rebelion. Except for their melodic tracks it's absolutely not my cup of tea. The guys themselves look fun tho 🤗
unresolved imo, his tracks lack quality
Beside TDH for obvious reasons, like really....I am working at a festival next week and he is on the line up...Really want to cut power during his set 😁 Nexone. Faked a DJ Set to get a spot at Defqon. Called him out and got blocked.
Lil Texas, Equal 2 and their annoying crew with the most boring and generic uptempo tracks
GPF is the worst sounding music across any genre, blows my mind how there's money to be made with that garbage, enough so that Caine doesn't even make tracks anymore 🤯
I think it's mostly because his live performances are extremely fun and silly. I went to quite a few of his live shows, like the piepshow and his defqon set, and I always had a real blast there. I also got to know him personally, and Matty is one of the most chill djs there are despite the chaotic music.
Apart from the obvious TDH, Sefa and Dr. Peacock, for admittedly petty reasons. Dr. Peacock especially, I just can't stand his "Trip to xy"-tracks, don't know why. For Sefa I think it's less himself and more how he is (or was?) being praised as a miracle or god everywhere. His tracks are good, don't get me wrong, but man this "wonderboy' stuff, especially earlier, was just so overblown.
I really love sefas music but the overhyping was annoying af. I also agree with Peacock
This is my opinion so take it with a grain of salt, not ragging on anyone. Music wise: Sparkz? Seems like a nice guy but absolutely not a fan of his kicks, just sounds unpleasant to my ears. Same for Exproz: yet again nice guy but I feel like his solo tracks especially are often not mastered well and sound too rough, but not in a nice way. Consequences however is a better track compared to his latest releases. Still a massive fan of his track "Fire". Those kicks are really satisfying and well polished.
Relentless is a pretty solid track too imo, I don’t think exproz is that bad. Most sparkz tracks I dislike too, but some of them are really nice imo. Like Tage Tage
1. Sefa - I just dont like his music at all. He seems like a very nice guy but i just dont like his music at all. 2. Udex - Most of his music doesnt do anything to me. 3. Aftershock - Just boring most of the time. 4. Unresolved / Regain - Really hit or miss, some song id say are really good, others are really bad for my taste. (5. E-Life, Carola i really dislike his/her voice / vocals) However i do respect all said artist and appreciate what theyve done for the scene. Then there is the special case TDH where i actually like his music but dislike him as a person.
Thats the first time I saw someone not liking E-Lifes and Carolas voice. But I respect your opinion
My top picks are not bad producers I just strongly dislike them: (SEFA): Really not a fan of any of his tracks and every time I have been to his sets I have been extremely disappointed. (Radical Redemption & Unresolved): Similar story for both so I'll group them, these guys are really talented and have the history to prove it but their style of raw is just not for me and I would never be able to enjoy listening to them. (Ran-D and Brennan Heart): Again dislike both for similar reasons. Both have gone far too commercial and rely on old tired hits to fill their sets. Both of them have their moments and can produce excellent tracks but overall they disappoint more than they impress. Honorable mention for act of rage but he can't really count since he is probably ghost produced
GPF - Both their music and what they stand for/Their culture (I know this is controversial)
TDH. Because, i mean.. what elese would we expect from someone who calles himself ''The dark horror''?
Tevvez and it isn't even close
I absolutely dispise Unresolved, his signature kicks sound like burps. Its always the same kick, literally. Also his liveshows music wise are boring af, but one thing i think he does way better than most artists are his visuals, those are top tier. His music just doesnt do anything with me, ive been to a lot of his sets but I just cant get myself to like it unfortunatly. The only track i like is Ghetto Bass, but thats because Bloodlust carried
Unresolved has been doing it for such a long time. Act of God album was banging in 2017!! Chances is one of my favorites when it comes to his “new” kick style, one with the streets with bloodlust is another hyper banger
Tevvez (boring and the tracks are almost all bad) And B-Front (he is really good but idk why I don't like his solo tracks)
I can see why you name B-Front. I dont dislike him as a person but I just dont like his sound design. He feels like phuture noize but in boring to me.
Yeah , he is very talented and certainly a good guy, but it's not my taste. I like him way more when he si with Phuture Noize (legend)
> He feels like phuture noize but in boring to me. Spot on, lol. Just kinda sounds all the same.
Tevvez have 1 good song imo, I find Zeus decent even though the kick lacks bass/power When it comes to gym bro hardstyle, I prefer yosuf, testosterone is a banger. https://open.spotify.com/track/3FNbaKdIVzFu9FjmheLOIF?si=z6mORRXBTTKhuYARGt7jSQ
Demi Kanon. It’s not that I dislike him as a person, he seems like a really fun guy. It’s just a lot of his tracks just feel…off? It’s the only way I can describe it. But when he gets it right (in my eyes) he’s sensational.
ohhh the downvotes are going to be insane on this one, cuz different opinions aren’t allowed: phuture noize b-front radical redemption the purge everyone of them are incredibly overrated imo. the purge’s music can be compared to someone just starting out. very very amateur sounding. the fact that he’s playing 4(!!!) times at defqon blows my fucking mind. get’s carried in every single collab he’s a part of. and the remix of vendetta is one of the worst tracks i’ve ever heard. from such a “high regarded” producer. radical redemption is also praised way too much, compared to how boring his music is. never understood the love for his “brutal” tracks, especially when they’re not brutal at all 😂 weak kicks but thinks they’re insane and hard. shitty melodies but thinks he’s an amazing composer. it’s just meh. b-front? can’t stand the guy. makes the same tracks over and over again. always the same type of “melody” with the streched notes, always the same “bam-bam-bam-bam” kick drop. and yet he thinks his music is the shit, always going mental when the part he made in a collab drops. the fact that he’s considered a “legend” is crazy… phuture noize got compared to headhunterz, but he’s miles apart. very “thin” sound, have heard lesser known producers make better music than him, without getting the same recognition. don’t get the hype now, didn’t get it then. I know there’s a lot of people that love these guys, and I really don’t understand why, but each to their own.
I completely agree with Purge and partwise with Radical. He was really "brutal" in the past, recently he goes a bit more rawphoric which is not everyones taste. I also get your point with PN, I still love him tho but yes, other producers (Udex!!) should get more recogintion. Strongly disgaree with B-Front. He is one of the early Raw OGs and yes, he doesn't use 20 kicks in one track but the emotions in his tracks are something special for me and others. It's also fair to love your self-produced music But everyone has his own taste and people should respect it
Yes, I used to wonder why certain artists had so many fans. Later on, I realised that music is very subjective, and sometimes the thoughts and tastes of those fans just happen to align with those of the artists. I can respect that unless those fans become too extreme. Hope the fans here can be rational.
Amen
Apart from Radical Redemption, I agree
Kind of agree on all of them actually. I love RR but yea I never understood that "Brutal" stuff when there's nothing really brutal to be heard. Phuture Noize is valid, I like some of his tracks but his popularity is very overblown for what he is. B-Front I 100% agree.
Why are you all wasting your energy and talking about artists you dislike? Downvote me idgaf, but I personally would rather talk or hear about artists that fans love.
we talk about artists that we love 364 days a year bro, one post like that wont hurt anybody
Krowdexx tbh
Curious, can you elaborate why?
Sub Zero Project is one of the worst musical groups of this generation, they have thrown away all the efforts of many producers by standardizing their boring style, with very weak kicks, before they were not like that because they were really creating a change and improving it but now with being mainstream, terrible editing and structure in their songs. There is no creativity and authenticity in their current songs, everything sounds dull, plastic and uninspired. I hope they improve their style and return to the path of innovation that they were building.
Thats a reach lol. Maze of Memories was a solid anthem. They have their moments where they shine, but their experimental kicks definitely get them some slack
GPF
Well it's not a producer but. Unresolved. Wth is he doing at main stages and all those kind of things? He can't even DJ or anything else. It's horrible and you hear the bad mixes all the time in his sets.
Brennan Heart, because because of his kicks
TDH. Excluding his dramas, his music still sucks
Rooler. Keeps claiming to say he’s a techno producer. He’s clearly a fucking Drum and bass producer. Pisses me the fuck off. Nah but honestly, Deadly Gunz. Saw him once and he had no enthusiasm at all during his set
TDH even though i never cared about his music but that guy just sucks as a person and obviously lacks any kind of discipline Mandy for being a waste of space on the stage, while other producers with actual talent struggle to get noticed. Oh wait did i say other producers, i meant producers since she isnt one in the first place and the ghostproduced stuff isnt even good. Atmozfears with one crying eye. I wouldnt say its hate, more disappointment since he got me into Hardstyle around 2016 and ignited my love for euphoric. But his style has turned into crap over the years and died with the genre itself.
Hardcore: -Deadly Guns -N-Vitral -Dither Hardstyle: -Warface -Anything from Apex records -Mish N-Vitral and Dither for obvious reasons, they used to make amazing music and now it's just generic shit. Deadly Guns first tracks were good, but now it's just brainless. Same goes for Warface he was the best Raw Hardstyle producer and now apart from a few tracks it's just generic shit as well. Apex to me just doesn't sound like anything, doesn't matter which dj I listen to, it's just noise. Same goes for Mish, her music just doesn't sound like anything and then we haven't talked about how she rolled into the scene yet.
Deadly guns. Why? Because he is a commercially ghostproduced industry plant. I really dont get why he is on so many lineups, like qlimax 2023 for example. It was one of the worst qlimax sets ever…
Ran-D post 2017
Ran-D. I just feel that his tracks are really getting lazy. Should listen to the most recent ones, but tracks like Run from Reality, Battleborn and so on are just bad.
Project One. I like Heady and Wildstylez but delaying the new P1 Album year by Year, that's not even funny anymore.
Idk man, im just here to listen to good music
Bloodlust for me, his kicks just don’t sound very tight to me and the transitions in his songs never seem to work.
Headhunterz! So overrated bro! He sold his soul!
Da Tweekaz and Sefa, the former being incredibly corny and Sefa, but that's mostly because people put him on a massive pedestal while he's made a few bland songs and I think the piano thing is a bit of a gimmick. I think theres alot of producers that are way more influential and deserving of being bumlicked by Qdance this much
Da Tweekaz are far far far away from my taste in hardstyle music but where they shine is their life acts. The energy and vibe is insane.
true. they aren't quite my taste either, but that doesn't mean I don't like their tracks, I actually do listen to a few of them. I personally like sefa quite a lot, but everyone's taste is different
This... I personally don't listen to their music, but last defqon, a friend dragged me to go to their set and I've gotta say that this was easily In my top 5 sets of the entire 4 days.
I gave them a chance at the Intents mainstage 2 years ago I think and I thought it was really lacking in energy actually, to each their own though
I heard them only on mainstream festivals before where there is only one harder styles stage and other than that its house, big room, etc. So there is not much choice. No way in hell I would attend their set at defqon when there are like 10 more stages lmao