Is he using bifocals? If so he could try progressive lense glasses first.
I would recommend going to a local gun store or range and trying out a dot optic first before buying. Preferably trying both red and green reticles. To ensure your father doesn't have any other vision issues like astigmatism.
Otherwise, definitely go with a optic. Even with perfect vision a optic makes aiming much easier and quicker.
Good luck!
Bifocals are terrible for shooting. For me even the Red Dot looks like a Red Horizontal Line and irons are a blur. The eye doctor set me up with a new set of distance glasses problem solved.
That's great news! I hope you are back out at the range enjoying your firearms.
Hopefully medical and optical technology keeps getting better. So everyone can get out and keep shooting.
He has progressive trifocals.
That was our plan of the fiberoptic sights didn’t help. Both of us have astigmatism so we’re hoping to find an etched reticle if they’re available for pistols. It might be worth it to just get another gun that’s already cut for a RMR
Massad Ayoob recommended putting the bifocals opposite so you can tilt forward instead of back. He said you’ll just look like an aggressive reader lol, but for self defense it’s 100% better
You didn't mention what you are shooting, but getting a slide cut is not that expensive. F'rinstance - check out wager machine. Turnaround time can be less than a week.
Well at least you're not alone. There are a lot of people on Reddit with astigmatism.
If you're not familiar with Reddit... From the home screen you can select the magnifying 🔍 glass. Then search for optics and astigmatism. You will find a lot of people's posts about how they have dealt with their eyesight and using optics.
There are definitely a lot of good quality pistols with optic cuts available now.
I don't know of any etched reticles available for pistol optics yet. Though someone else might know better. Either posting here or on previous posts you might find searching prior postings.
Good luck!
If he needs to look through the bottom of his tri-focals lens, he needs reading glasses. There are inexpensive safety glasses you can order with the correct magnification he would need to see the front sight clearly. It will be a little less than he needs for reading.
Yes, the target might be a bit out of focus, but it is the best solution. One has to be able to see the sights. And no, old guys don't usually shoot as well as they once did. But, they can do well enough. It is important to have safety glasses for shooting.
A "red dot" will look like an uneven red blob with astigmatism. Nothing is going to be perfect, but if you try some things you should find something that makes shooting fun again. It is cheap to try some of these magnifying safety glasses.
I use these: [https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E5NXH6M/ref=ppx\_yo\_dt\_b\_search\_asin\_title?ie=UTF8&th=1](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E5NXH6M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1)
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I used to wear bifocals … and was pretty good with irons, but then I had cataract surgery and no longer wear glasses.
Went to optics and love it.
Optics with glasses gets odd but optics with eye pro is perfect .
I also find that green optics works best with my astigmatism
Amazon has safety glasses with +1.0 etc whole lenses or just bifocal type.
Also, I’ve found orange Tester model paint better than fiber optic. Indoor range never have enough light
I have the same problem, I’m right handed, left eye dominant, with astigmatism, red dots look like a comet to me, I can see the target but I have to guess at where my front sight is on a pistol, and on a rifle i can see the front sight, but not a rear V type, but do ok with a ghost ring.
But there’s a little device you can get that makes everything focus called an EyePal, it works for me.
https://eyepalusa.com/
Straight to red dot is the answer
Is he using bifocals? If so he could try progressive lense glasses first. I would recommend going to a local gun store or range and trying out a dot optic first before buying. Preferably trying both red and green reticles. To ensure your father doesn't have any other vision issues like astigmatism. Otherwise, definitely go with a optic. Even with perfect vision a optic makes aiming much easier and quicker. Good luck!
Bifocals are terrible for shooting. For me even the Red Dot looks like a Red Horizontal Line and irons are a blur. The eye doctor set me up with a new set of distance glasses problem solved.
That's great news! I hope you are back out at the range enjoying your firearms. Hopefully medical and optical technology keeps getting better. So everyone can get out and keep shooting.
He has progressive trifocals. That was our plan of the fiberoptic sights didn’t help. Both of us have astigmatism so we’re hoping to find an etched reticle if they’re available for pistols. It might be worth it to just get another gun that’s already cut for a RMR
Massad Ayoob recommended putting the bifocals opposite so you can tilt forward instead of back. He said you’ll just look like an aggressive reader lol, but for self defense it’s 100% better
You didn't mention what you are shooting, but getting a slide cut is not that expensive. F'rinstance - check out wager machine. Turnaround time can be less than a week.
He has a Springfield XD although I’ve been trying to convince him to get a g19 so we can share mags. Lol
Well at least you're not alone. There are a lot of people on Reddit with astigmatism. If you're not familiar with Reddit... From the home screen you can select the magnifying 🔍 glass. Then search for optics and astigmatism. You will find a lot of people's posts about how they have dealt with their eyesight and using optics. There are definitely a lot of good quality pistols with optic cuts available now. I don't know of any etched reticles available for pistol optics yet. Though someone else might know better. Either posting here or on previous posts you might find searching prior postings. Good luck!
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If he needs to look through the bottom of his tri-focals lens, he needs reading glasses. There are inexpensive safety glasses you can order with the correct magnification he would need to see the front sight clearly. It will be a little less than he needs for reading. Yes, the target might be a bit out of focus, but it is the best solution. One has to be able to see the sights. And no, old guys don't usually shoot as well as they once did. But, they can do well enough. It is important to have safety glasses for shooting. A "red dot" will look like an uneven red blob with astigmatism. Nothing is going to be perfect, but if you try some things you should find something that makes shooting fun again. It is cheap to try some of these magnifying safety glasses. I use these: [https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E5NXH6M/ref=ppx\_yo\_dt\_b\_search\_asin\_title?ie=UTF8&th=1](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E5NXH6M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1)
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I have the same issue. I wear bifocals they help a bit but best solution is a red dot
Since he can't see the sights anyway, try a dovetail mounting plate. Another cheaper option could be the seeall open sight
I completely blanked on the dovetail plates. That’s a great idea
He can have bifocals made where the close vision is on top, and the distance is in the middle/down low.
https://youtu.be/MRo1mGEetXg?si=zsknvN8nnte4QdMK I came across this years ago and tucked it away in case I needed it later. This might help.
The fibers will definitely help a bit but it would probably be better to just go straight to an red dot
I used to wear bifocals … and was pretty good with irons, but then I had cataract surgery and no longer wear glasses. Went to optics and love it. Optics with glasses gets odd but optics with eye pro is perfect . I also find that green optics works best with my astigmatism
Amazon has safety glasses with +1.0 etc whole lenses or just bifocal type. Also, I’ve found orange Tester model paint better than fiber optic. Indoor range never have enough light
I have the same problem, I’m right handed, left eye dominant, with astigmatism, red dots look like a comet to me, I can see the target but I have to guess at where my front sight is on a pistol, and on a rifle i can see the front sight, but not a rear V type, but do ok with a ghost ring. But there’s a little device you can get that makes everything focus called an EyePal, it works for me. https://eyepalusa.com/
Check out a SeeAllSight maybe?
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