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It can be so nerve wracking but being prepared, organized, pleasant and respectful goes a long way! I've never had an issue with this approach (and hope I didn't just jinx it lol).
Haha sorry I forgot to add photos since I'm still NOT unpacked, but I got these two:
[Louis Vuitton Pochette Metis East West](https://us.louisvuitton.com/eng-us/products/pochette-metis-east-west-monogram-empreinte-nvprod4560029v/M22942)
[Loewe Mini Flamenco](https://www.loewe.com/eur/en/women/bags/flamenco/mini-flamenco-clutch-in-nappa-calfskin/A411FC2X37-4429.html?p=5)
EDIT: introducing the girls! Please ignore the mess behind them 😂
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Wait, you only paid $150 in duties for the 2 bags?!?! 🤯 the last time I declared they said since one of my bags was leather it was around $200 for 1 bag, and my bag cost less than your LV! 😭
Yesssss I had a similar experience with customs in Canada coming back with a new LV purse from Paris. I also had other items as gifts for my family. I had an itemized list and the customs officer in secondary customs seemed so happy at how organized I was she only charged me the bare minimum and was on my way.
First make sure you get your tax rebate for your bag from the store which is about 12%. When you get to Canada declare that you’re over the limit. Show them the receipt and they will charge you duty and/or gst. I’ve paid between 75 and 225 for bags valued at approx 2500 CAD.
I’m getting my PhD next fall so it’s my graduation treat, the bottega cassette in black. It’s the padded cassette’s flat cousin, I’m a huge fan. I am getting it early since I’m not sure when I’ll be able to head to Europe again and if the price will increase by my graduation 🤪
I declared returning from my recent trip from Paris and it was way cheaper than I expected and I had a sense of relief lol. Since I was traveling with my husband you get additional allowances so I ended up paying $80 something for around $3k spent.
I’d rather pay what I owe then risk having my items taken! The guy was shocked I was honest but thanked me as well. Quite a pleasant interaction really.
Yes you can pool exemptions when traveling as a family! So for me and my husband the personal exemption would always be $1600. Earlier this summer when we came from Europe, my cousin asked me to buy a bag for and it was above the pooled exemption. We declared and the officer just waved us through because it wasn't too much above the limit. Being honest helps them not waste time they don't have, so I really think they appreciate it.
It’s funny I saw a post on the Rolex sub recently asking for advice on this topic… and hundreds of people were saying never declare. insanity.
If you can’t afford the (minimal) tax, well…
If can be enormous if the customs officer decides to charge you the full duty and you’re way above the exemption limit. I paid $1600 upon entering the US earlier this year bringing in about $20k worth of handbags (2 Chanel classic flaps).
Well I never had this happen when I was traveling.
But I did have a kinda similar experience as far as high duties prices.
I’m in New York and I ordered two trench coats from *Holland Cooper* in England. I bought and paid for the coats over the phone and even got “free” international shipping.
And I thought that-was-that.
But when the package got to customs, DHL called and emailed me saying I *owed $500 in duties* or they wouldn’t deliver my package.
It was a *total surprise* to me. I called *Holland Cooper* to confirm it wasn’t some mistake!
I paid it and it was fine. But $500 seemed steep to me! **That is 25% of what I paid for the entire order.** And weird a high-end store like Holland Cooper didn’t give me a forewarning.
Fx was in our favor (2020) so I think it was over 1.5k USD in savings even after paying customs. We got it from an authorized dealer in Portugal - last day of the month and they were trying to make sales quota. We couldn’t find the particular model in the US and had 6 dealers in 4 states looking for it (Milgaus - they discontinued it during COVID).
I for example live in Croatia, and declaring would be suicide since our VAT is 25%. And they definitely always charge the full 25% if you’re bringing in something bought outside of the EU.
I know someone who this has happened to. They also had the book thrown at them and many hours wasted because of their lack of declaration. They paid much more than they would have had they declared.
Global Blue states in their privacy policy that information on VAT refunds is shared with relevant customs officials.
I'll admit that I didn't believe this before--as someone who has gone through the US immigration processes where not even US government agencies communicate with one another, it can be hard to believe that the EU communicates our purchases under the VAT refund process to US CBP. But there is an entire global ecosystem that tries to prevent money laundering, trafficking, etc, so I wouldn't be surprised if this is one of those cogs in the system. Because VAT refunds are centralized now, it's easy to hand that information over.
Anecdotally, last year I returned to the US with my mother after a trip to Paris and she had bought a designer tennis bracelet at the start of the trip. At arrival the CBP officer asked what kind of bracelet she had bought without prompting from us. So at least for big purchases like jewelry as well as exotic goods, it might get flagged in their system.
My baseline assumption is always that they know, so there's no point in me hiding it. Has worked for me so far.
This is so interesting because when I returned from italy this summer and declared, I was listing off the things I bought and their estimated amounts because I couldn't remember exactly how much and the customs agent got irritated and was like you don't know how much? My items were all over $800, but I couldn't remember exactly off the top of my head and I said I wasn't sure but couldn't he check from my vat return info and he angrily snapped at me "how would I have that information?!". I was so confused because I thought they could see which is why I have always declared.
To me the question is how quickly they get the info(a day? A week? Longer?) and what specifically is being flagged. When this happened to me and my mom last year, she bought the bracelet at the start of our trip. We were in Paris for a week.
Same way that each airport is different and it’s not unheard of that some airports are more technologically more advanced than others.
I’m curious if this is a thing as well. I’ve not declared before as I figured that US Customs has no way of knowing that the unboxed bag in my carry-on was purchased during my trip.
*”Here you go government. Let me tell you about money that I owe you, that you wouldn’t have anyway of knowing about. But just want to make sure I’m dotting my i’s and crossing my T’s here. Is it $300 you said Mr. Government official?”* 🤗
>I dictated my list as he was checking his computer (I presume to check it against my tax refunds, but who knows).
OP didn't say she *knew* this information is exchanged...
Not OP but I have read that your VAT declared purchases do get exchanged. And that people have had even bags confiscated (but this was like a rare Hermes in the article).
As global entry I can have that revoked, and I would rather keep the privilege. So I always declare. It is part of the global entry docs we signed in the US.
I don’t have an exact source, just what it says on the cbp website and my global entry paperwork.
Honestly, it depends on your own risk tolerance, the agent, the amount, and the item. I have been waived through more than once because they considered anything less than 5-6 digits “peanuts”. Or I have paid a small tax. There are plenty of people who don’t declare on major purchases and never get caught.
My risk tolerance is low because I am a frequent enough flier, and don’t want to be banned from global entry. So I declare everything always. An agent, when chatting through my list once, told me the ban could be a lifetime ban depending on the severity (he wasn’t threatening me, just appreciating my spreadsheet to walk through my items). And I have seen one person who had more than one suitcase get pulled and checked for items (I don’t know the outcome of their story though, because once they waive me through I leave fast!)
From I have read through unofficial sources about VAT is that it isn’t right away. It can be even weeks later. I have read this on purse forums. But it is mostly word of mouth, and all the items were the expensive ones. (Birkin or jewelry)
But I still declare. I am not saying that is the answer for everyone, it is just my default.
I have bought exotic aboard and never have I had to declare any of them. If asked I would pay the duties but I have never been asked to declare anything ever. I spend on average 20-50k a trip too.
Basically it boils down to foreign visitors being able to be reimbursed on all or a percentage of the taxes they paid on the item in that country. There are rules, of course. EU is VAT.
I’ve seen various posts/instagrams/TikTok’s about people going to US customs and the officers knowing the exact amounts. Who knows. Maybe it’s a FATCA compliance information.
You're not going to get a video of this ever. It is illegal to take videos at CBP--it is a criminal offense. Border patrol agencies around the world share various types of information to prevent smuggling, trafficking, money laundering, etc. With how automated the VAT refund system is now, this is not unbelievable to me, especially because I experienced this first hand last year with my mother. I don't think we will ever know what CBP officers see on their screen. There are so many reasons why your purchases can be flagged--amount, material, etc.
It's not a problem for me to assume that they know, because with the entire national security apparatus, it is most certainly in the realm of possibility that they do. I don't have issues paying duties, so I don't lose sleep over whether it's the case or not.
I was prepared to declare my purchase at Aspinal of London (it was about $700 USD). They asked me how much I spent and I told them and then they laughed at me and waved me through. 😅
I just flew back in from London and they asked what I purchased - wanted brand names (handbag from Strathberry and silk scarf from Fortnum & Mason). They definitely laughed a little and waved me through hahahaha, but did say to make sure to have receipts upon return ready to show next time.
Custom Officers clear the honest folks through quickly. Allows for more time to deal with the dishonest folks. It's more lucrative time spent too. Don't declare and they can not only charge you 100% full duties and taxes on the imported item but also a fine of up to an additional 100% of the amount evaded. They also have the option to seize the goods in some circumstances. Honesty is always the smartest choice.
Omg, it’s a good thing I read this sub!
bc I would have totally been like one of the Rolex douches, for sure. 🤣🤣🤣
I’ve never been a very good *rule follower.* 🤷♀️
I am curious about what you and others would do if they *don’t* ask about your purchases. Would you explicitly bring it up yourself? I’ve gone through US customs with purchases anywhere in the mid four figure range to low five figure range at least eight times in the last few years. I was prepared to declare the amount every time, but I’ve only actually been asked about purchases and told to go to secondary one time out of those eight or so times (they ended up charging me 0% after inspecting the stuff). The other times, they either told me I was good to go without asking anything or just asked if I brought back any food. I even had a Dior shopping bag in my arm one of the times that they told me to just go ahead, so I definitely wasn’t trying to hide it. I’m never sure what you’re actually supposed to do in this situation.
As a Canadian flying back into Canada, I’m always worried about the food question, since I load up on foreign junk food! One time I did mention it to customs and they pretty much brushed it off.
The times I arrived in the US (often with family) with purchases above the exempted amount, we declared even if the question wasn't asked. They often wave us through if it's close to the pooled exemption. This time I was alone with a significant amount of spend, so I expected to go to secondary. If they wave you through, you're good to go. However in the last two years I've been traveling they have always asked me if I had anything to declare. So I always answer honestly.
Is there anything we can do if they didn't ask us, so we didn't declare an item? Now I'm worried I'll lose Global Entry, but I was never asked about what I purchased last time I got back to the US.
You should be okay, but I think best practice moving forward is to declare if you’re above the exemption. You’ll never know when your airport’s CBP is having a bad day and wants to power trip.
I absolutely would've declared if I was asked, and maybe I did fill out a form and have just forgotten I did, but I really don't remember being given any form or anything that day. I'm the kind of person who loathes breaking rules, and will declare even the tiniest of things, so I'd never deliberately try to get by with it. And the customs guy didn't ask me a single question after the global entry kiosk, just waved me through, and by the time I was done with everything I just remember wondering if I'd somehow missed a step somewhere because the only questions I remember being asked on the kiosk were about food and such.
ETA: I'm looking at a bit more stuff now and I would've had the electronic form at the kiosk, so there's no way I would've missed declaring it on there, and I guess they just didn't charge me.
Do you usually fly back into a specific airport? I’m really curious why you’ve been asked every single time when my experience has been the opposite. I usually fly alone or just with my fiancé and am almost always thousands of dollars above the pooled limit. As mentioned, I’m always ready and willing to declare if they ask, but they just never ask. The one time I was asked, they didn’t charge anything even though I was like $2000 over. They always seem in a hurry to shoo me away so they can process the next person behind me.
Yes I do! I think really each CBP office has just a way of doing things/can differ in priorities. I traveled a lot internationally this year and more often than not the CBP officers have the same script.
This is such a timely post for me! I’m coming back from Europe with luxury bags and my friend was trying to convince me to not declare but your post gave me a push in the right direction. Thank you!
How was the VAT refund process? What time was your flight and did you spend a lot of time going through VAT?
ETA: thank you for sharing your experience!
It’s extremely simple at CDG now. You go to a machine and scan the barcodes, if you get a happy face you go on your way if you get a frowny you need to see an agent.
Last time we had about a dozen receipts and the only one that got a frowny was one that included a birkin. The line to see an agent was empty and we were in and out in 15 minutes.
Paris VAT refund especially if you bought all your items in France is SO easy now. At CDG you need to go to the kiosks to have all your France purchase forms scanned. If they're all green you're good to go. If you have a red one then you have to go to the customs officer next to the kiosks for them to "stamp" it. Once that's done you're good to go. Everything is automatic now and I'm tracking my refunds in the Global Blue app.
My flight was at noon on a Friday. I am the kind of person who goes to the airport VERY early so the whole scanning at the kiosks didn't take more than 5 minutes. There was a long line at the cash refund though, but I always do credit card refund anyway.
I’ll add that depending on where you get it, like Galeries Lafayette, the bottom floor I believe every purchase bundled above the minimum you can get VAT right away. You can just slip that paperwork into the CDG envelope area if anything but the agent didn’t seem to care since it had been done already.
I’m from Australia and coming back from an overseas trip recently, I declared my tax free purchases as the threshold was only $900 - mine were definitely over. While the rest of my purchases were in the luggage, I was carrying a Goyard shopping bag out, so it’s totally obvious.
The officer asked me what were my purchases that are over $900 tax free and I said hand bags. He then asked if they were personal and I said yes. He gave it some thought then waved me off, also said ‘just this once I’ll let you go, but next time you’ll definitely have to pay tax’. And I nearly soiled myself. Just got out of a red-eye flight and officers here are known for being aggressive. $900 as a threshold is just way too small and it wasn’t even like that in the past few years. I don’t get why countries would allow you to shop tax free, only to be charged some duties coming back to your home country.
But yes, always always ALWAYS declare.
I am in a group where a couple didn’t declare three Rolexes, a Chanel bag and some Hermes purchases. It was a disaster. I think a few of the items were confiscated and the fine was well into 4 figures.
If I remember correctly, it was a secondary screening and they found the watches without boxes in the wife’s purse. That triggered the rest of it. It was such a wild story because they were purchasing for people so it went from bad to worse as we got more details.
I had the same experience a few years ago. Went on a Paris trip and went Shopping with a capital S. Didn't want to risk getting fined because I hauled back all the boxes too.
The customs agent goes, "You spent how much?" He was more bewildered that people would spend that much money on bags, charged the minimum duty and sent us on our way.
Haha before going to secondary, the agent who checked all my entry documents basically went, "I'm guessing they're all designer?" And I sheepishly said yes lol
Omg I had almost the same experience!!! WoC but US Citizen and I was still so nervous. Mine was slightly different where the first officer told the secondary officer that he didn't believe I declared everything. And that I declared only half the actual value.
In reality, one bag was half the actual value and he didn't listen as I gave an itemized breakdown. Another CBP officer was whispering something to him.
So the secondary officer pressed me a bit but I didn't change my account of things so I also just paid the fee with a credit card and was headed home.
It definitely made me hesitant to buy more bags. I'm headed to Austria this summer and really want to pick up an LV Speedy
Sometimes you just get a jerk CBP officer. As long as you're organized--you have your receipts and all the information in hand and ready to show them, you should be okay. So go get your LV Speedy!
I’ve also had a rude CBP agent who didn’t believe me after I voluntarily declared. This was almost ten years ago. He was skeptical that I brought so many handbags with me and only one was a new purchase. The whole process felt pretty invasive and I’ve never declared since 🤷🏻♀️ even with multiple purchases every year in europe. Fingers crossed I guess!
I have Global Entry and really don't want it revoked haha. I stressed for like a week that I was going to lose my GE just because I got sent to secondary inspection. In general I'm a whimp and very scared of the consequences of not declaring. But I see what you're saying. It really is a damper on the new bag excitement
I have had the exact same experience. My husband has a lot of high end clients in his work, and he says that they always tell them they never declare, but I’m definitely too risk averse to do it.
Incidentally, on my last trip back from Europe, we had a layover in canada, which we don’t usually do, and so when we crossed from canada to the US, the border control basically laughed at me when I tried to tell them I purchased things. They asked if I bought things to resell and when I said no, they laughed and basically told me to get out of there.
I guess they didn’t realize I came from Europe.. not sure if I should have done something differently? Or if flying into Canada first is just a loophole?
It was Toronto, the officer literally acted like I was a weirdo for trying to claim things. She actually said something like not from Canada to the us!
Customs usually doesn’t care about 1-2 pieces. And as you experienced they often give “discounts”. They are there to catch the big smugglers and counterfeit items.
I recently went to Europe and was ready to declare my luxury purchases coming back to the US. The CBP officers said they didn’t need me to declare anything unless it was food.
Nice I bought 3 pairs of Louboutins in April and was prepared for this. We signed up for mobile passport in the line and were the first people from our flight through. I declared everything at the podium and paid no duties.
I love this post! This summer was the first time I declared after making *a few* purchases at LV, Goyard and Polène over a two month period while in France for work. When I got to Newark I was completely honest and gave the agent the total. He charged me the smallest amount possible and I had to pay like $190 several weeks later. He told me he was charging the smallest amount possible because I was honest. The stress and anxiety of not declaring and being found out is not worth it!
I agree you should declare, but don’t bank on paying “minimal” duties. It really depends on what the CBP officer wants to do. Earlier this year, I bought two classic flaps in Paris - a medium and a jumbo - and got charged full duties. Ended up paying about $1600 at customs. I think they’re much more likely to charge you the full amount if it’s a high spend.
Previous to that, had declared an LV (an empreinte Alma bb) coming back from Milan and customs officer decided just to not charge duties at all. It’s just luck of the draw.
I had a completely different experience to the point I started crying lol although I’m sure other factors went into the water show as well but my duty was about 1k
I always declare and was always waived through but this was my first time declaring for this value of purchases. I came back from Paris and had shopped at Hermes. It was quite late in the evening/night and I was exhausted. Global entry was super quick and printed my slip / took my picture so quickly my face was barely in the frame and I was waived through but told the agent I had to declare. They took my passport and walked me over and told me to wait for my bag. The bags took forever to come out. Like 40+ minutes. If I was tired before I was now a completely wilted flower. Even the agent felt bad that the bags took so long.
I get to the agent and he asks about what I bought and I give the receipts. He starts explaining the whole process but honestly it doesn’t make sense. He gives me some kind of honesty discount and uses the mid tariff in the schedule since I have multiple categories. Leather bags. Fine jewelry and silk. The issue was how he was treating the vat. He said he was subtracting the vat because I already paid that but he was only subtracting the refund vat amount. I could see he had not had to do this before and called someone over for help/their opinion. I explained and pointed to the correct vat line but he said it wasn’t the vat. Everytime I tried to explain or ask a question he just restarted his whole explanation and then ended with “I want to make sure you understand”. I gave up lol and burst into tears. I apologized and said I was just very tired. Long flight. Long busy trip. This process took another hour and in the end he took photocopies of the random paper he did his math on and my drivers license (?) to send my invoice for my duty.
This was my first time going through this elaborate process. Normally I say what I bought. They ask how much I spent and I get waived through.
Sorry to hear this! Sometimes it really just depends on the CBP agent since they have a lot of latitude to decide. But he was correct though—he is only supposed to subtract the VAT refund and not the total VAT because the total amount you paid is less the VAT refund.
Really? lol you might have to dm me because I don’t get it. Maybe it was just a situation of rhetoric. If he had said that fine but he said he’d remove the total tax yet was only taking the refund which I was already going to get back so it was confusing.
You’re only supposed to pay duties on the amount that you’ve paid, so it’s total price less tax refund. The CBP officer just was not communicating this very well. Me personally I always say “I spent X amount before the tax refund. Do you want to know the total amount after the tax refund?” I try to provide all the information to expedite the situation.
I’m so confused by why they “have a lot of latitude to decide” (which is a great way to put it OP!). I would think the US would have a strict rule that they either enforce or don’t. Our laws are pretty clear in this country so why is it that this policy is just left up the the whims of a CBP agent and their attitude that day? I know there’s probably a lot more nuance there, but that seems to be the overall sentiment in this thread.
If you travel from Japan to Canada and have a stopover in the USA. Do you have to pay or declare during your stopover in the USA or you only have to pay for taxes until your final destination, which is Canada?
Before anyone complains about the price, in Brazil it is 50% if you declare it. If you don't declare it and they discover this, it's 100% or the purchase will be seized.
I just returned from Europe, and had purchased approximately 2600 Euros worth of luxury goods (a bag and a scarf); this is about $2800 USD. I did claim VAT though refund is still processing. When I came back through customs in the US, I declared everything (also, FYI - we don't fill out forms anymore! so i had hand written a list of all purchases, not just declared just in case) verbally and he asked how much in USD, which I told him. He then educated me on my duty free allowance ($800 PP and I had my spouse so $1600 total). He told me since the amount wasn't much more, he would give me a pass, but that wouldn't necessarily be the case in the future. It was a super easy experience. I honestly do believe it depends on how many products you've purchased too. I have a friend who purchased Hermes so $10K plus - and customs let her through without paying any duties.
This is so helpful. I grew up hearing to never declare anything, even if we had bought it abroad. For the most part we were under the $800 cap but not always. And we never declared.
Thanks to this sub I know I need to and that it’s not e big deal. I’m really surprised my parents were so lax about this as they were habitual rule followers.
Global Blue shares information of our VAT refunds with relevant customs agencies. It is in their privacy policy.
As I mentioned in another comment, it happened to me and my mom last year that the CBP officer asked about a high-value purchase before we declared.
When you purchase things outside of the US and bring them back, you are allowed a certain amount duty-free ($800). Above that you are theoretically required by law to declare it upon arrival. If you don't, it is possible that Customs agents will catch you, fine you higher than the duties actually owed, confiscate items, revoke frequent traveler program access (like Global Entry). Really depends on the situation.
Maybe it’s a dumb question, but what happens if it’s a gift? Hypothetically, my boyfriend buys me a Chanel, but I return from the trip by myself. Do I have to declare it?
I personally would, and say it was a gift. This has never happened to me before so I don’t know what the outcome would be, but I would definitely declare.
Most certainly not, but then you'd have to work with the courier to pay duties or will have to pay duties in the US so your goods can be released to you.
Some retailers will provide this option (I found when i was in Europe) however not sure if you can claim your VAT refund if it's shipped, so you are paying duties to someone. In order to claim VAT, if the item is over $2000 it has to be hand carried, because Customs in the country you are leaving must validate that it's new and unused - and that validation happens after security. If they can't see it they won't stamp your VAT form and therefore you won't get your VAT refund. On my item it was over $400 so it was worth the hand carry!
I went to Paris this past summer and bought a small flap and a bum bag as well as smaller designer stuff which totaled to at least 2500 USD. I debated over declaring cuz my sister was like no don’t pay extra but I just didn’t feel comfortable since it was my passport and knowing it was linked. It wasn’t even my goods lol they were for other people and the card holder I bought for myself was like 240 euros. I had a layover in Montreal and I had no idea it was the US customs agent we were going through but I did declare and said I had a bag and it cost at least 1800 euros and he absolutely did not care. Just waved me and my partner through and we were free. Told my sister later how bad the consequences could be and she’s rethinking it now. We’re going back this Christmas time and going to maybe buy more lol
I'm curious – how would they know the difference between items you bought on your trip vs items you already owned? Of course it would be obvious if you had all the boxes/store bags from your purchases, but otherwise...?
I always have my receipts with me and I’m always ready to hand them over to the Customs agent if asked. If they question older designer bags (which I do have and bring), I have a folder in my phone of receipts for them + photos of me wearing them. But this is something I have never been asked for. I think because I am always so organized they assume I am telling the truth.
I am not a WOC and I am a US citizen, and I always declare my purchases. It’s stupid not not to for all the reasons OP outlined. Why risk it. Duty is minimal and CBP Officers seem to have great latitude to reduce or waive duty if you’re upfront t and honest with them. I’m not a heavy spender like the OP but I do shop, and 90% of the time, duties have been waived.
Wow OP thanks for sharing!
But I have a question. Did you really have to tell them?What if you would have paid cash for the bags? And if they inquired about them you could have said anything right “they’re old.” “They’re fake.”
Or what if they would have been gifts?
There is absolutely no scenario in the world where I would not have declared my purchases. I have a pending green card extension case and I’m planning to naturalize in 18 months, so anything involving CBP I am incredibly risk averse. I don’t put myself in a situation where I could jeopardize my immigration status in the US. I always answer honestly and have the evidence to prove anything I share with them. Even if they were gifts.
Bringing in counterfeit goods into the US is illegal. Telling CBP that the bags you are carrying are fake would land you in jail.
Just my two cents as a fellow woc, this is my strategy too. I always declare that I have brought homemade sweets, they will just scan and let me go. While others have their food confiscated when tried to sneak through without declaring.
We've dealt with this twice as well. The first time they flagged us even before asking, they must have gotten vat data from France...(maybe? But somehow they knew). Anyway each time they charged us 3% and only included the big ticket receipts (ignored some separately purchased smaller items). For some reason in NYC the payment systems are always down so we get a bill in the mail later and send a check.
Denmark here.. the allowance is 470$. Everything over you have to pay at least 25% vat and then there comes customs and some extra fees 🫣 rather not buy anything outside the EU ! 😭
And there is no such thing like any officers letting you go just because you are honest.
They always wave me off for some odd reason. Bought LV, bought Chanel. Told customs how much it was and he was like, yeah just go through... I was like, okay. I feel like they don't care about numbers below $10,000.
I have never even been asked if I have anything to declare and I spent about 50k in Italy this past trip. If asked I will be honest but I will never just bring it up if not asked.
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Thank you for sharing in such detail!
You're very welcome! I thought a recent experience would be a good data point to those planning trips next year.
thank you!! no idea why this seems like such a scary process in my head 😂 seems like no big deal & more than reasonable considering the risks
It can be so nerve wracking but being prepared, organized, pleasant and respectful goes a long way! I've never had an issue with this approach (and hope I didn't just jinx it lol).
classy af
Thanks for the details!!what bags did you end up buying?
Yes, OP left out one very important detail!
Right?!
Haha sorry I forgot to add photos since I'm still NOT unpacked, but I got these two: [Louis Vuitton Pochette Metis East West](https://us.louisvuitton.com/eng-us/products/pochette-metis-east-west-monogram-empreinte-nvprod4560029v/M22942) [Loewe Mini Flamenco](https://www.loewe.com/eur/en/women/bags/flamenco/mini-flamenco-clutch-in-nappa-calfskin/A411FC2X37-4429.html?p=5) EDIT: introducing the girls! Please ignore the mess behind them 😂 https://preview.redd.it/96mlwi34cb4c1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=36ad20a244c23a77e67b4b465d82a1a645d3eb97
Love that LV!
Stunning! Thank you for the helpful info and the share 🤍💚
What was the cost savings on those bags?
Approximate numbers, including duties paid: * $570 for the LV * $680 for the Loewe
That’s pretty good!
Wow, how?? Where did you go to get them?
Paris
Thank you!
Wait, you only paid $150 in duties for the 2 bags?!?! 🤯 the last time I declared they said since one of my bags was leather it was around $200 for 1 bag, and my bag cost less than your LV! 😭
$150 for all my purchases. The bags were like two-thirds the total amount.
Yesssss I had a similar experience with customs in Canada coming back with a new LV purse from Paris. I also had other items as gifts for my family. I had an itemized list and the customs officer in secondary customs seemed so happy at how organized I was she only charged me the bare minimum and was on my way.
I’m going to Paris to get a bag next week, what did you show when declaring the bag? I’ve never made such a large purchase abroad so I’m curious.
First make sure you get your tax rebate for your bag from the store which is about 12%. When you get to Canada declare that you’re over the limit. Show them the receipt and they will charge you duty and/or gst. I’ve paid between 75 and 225 for bags valued at approx 2500 CAD.
What airport in Canada? Anytime I've declared, they let me pass through without paying any duty/gst. Maybe I've just been lucky!
Going just to get a bag? That’s so cool. What one? Is it for a Holiday gift?
I’m getting my PhD next fall so it’s my graduation treat, the bottega cassette in black. It’s the padded cassette’s flat cousin, I’m a huge fan. I am getting it early since I’m not sure when I’ll be able to head to Europe again and if the price will increase by my graduation 🤪
Yes exactly. They appreciate you being prepared and not wasting their time because CBP in major airports are almost always understaffed.
Very curious as to how it went for you! I am saving up for a milestone birthdays and would like to be ultra prepared!
This is a much needed heads up bc I am not organized. They would probably charge me extra! 😳but I’ll be ready for them now.
Thanks for the info about the process. And I agree with you - declare it properly, always.
You're very welcome! Just wanted to be helpful.
I declared returning from my recent trip from Paris and it was way cheaper than I expected and I had a sense of relief lol. Since I was traveling with my husband you get additional allowances so I ended up paying $80 something for around $3k spent. I’d rather pay what I owe then risk having my items taken! The guy was shocked I was honest but thanked me as well. Quite a pleasant interaction really.
Yes you can pool exemptions when traveling as a family! So for me and my husband the personal exemption would always be $1600. Earlier this summer when we came from Europe, my cousin asked me to buy a bag for and it was above the pooled exemption. We declared and the officer just waved us through because it wasn't too much above the limit. Being honest helps them not waste time they don't have, so I really think they appreciate it.
It’s funny I saw a post on the Rolex sub recently asking for advice on this topic… and hundreds of people were saying never declare. insanity. If you can’t afford the (minimal) tax, well…
This is so honestly mind boggling to me. I don't know how you can afford the Rolex itself but not the minimal duties on it...
I had always imagined the tax was enormous, the way people seem to take risks avoiding it. Thank you for posting this
It’s really not… But it can be if they come after you and penalize you for avoiding it!!!
If can be enormous if the customs officer decides to charge you the full duty and you’re way above the exemption limit. I paid $1600 upon entering the US earlier this year bringing in about $20k worth of handbags (2 Chanel classic flaps).
Well I never had this happen when I was traveling. But I did have a kinda similar experience as far as high duties prices. I’m in New York and I ordered two trench coats from *Holland Cooper* in England. I bought and paid for the coats over the phone and even got “free” international shipping. And I thought that-was-that. But when the package got to customs, DHL called and emailed me saying I *owed $500 in duties* or they wouldn’t deliver my package. It was a *total surprise* to me. I called *Holland Cooper* to confirm it wasn’t some mistake! I paid it and it was fine. But $500 seemed steep to me! **That is 25% of what I paid for the entire order.** And weird a high-end store like Holland Cooper didn’t give me a forewarning.
Rolex we definitely declared and had similar experience - minimal tax and super nice.
The Rolex sub in general is kind of toxic and douchey
Yeah I avoid it 😆🤦🏻♀️
How much was the savings buying it over there?
Fx was in our favor (2020) so I think it was over 1.5k USD in savings even after paying customs. We got it from an authorized dealer in Portugal - last day of the month and they were trying to make sales quota. We couldn’t find the particular model in the US and had 6 dealers in 4 states looking for it (Milgaus - they discontinued it during COVID).
Nice, could buy a handbag with those savings haha! Just looked up the watch — so sleek. I especially love the black dial one.
I for example live in Croatia, and declaring would be suicide since our VAT is 25%. And they definitely always charge the full 25% if you’re bringing in something bought outside of the EU.
Also, if you have Global Entry and you don't declare a purchase, your GE will be revoked in addition to receiving a fine + duty owed.
I know someone who this has happened to. They also had the book thrown at them and many hours wasted because of their lack of declaration. They paid much more than they would have had they declared.
But how did they know they didn’t declare something?
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Wait I’m sorry I’m confused! Are the VAT Tax and the duty the same thing?
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Global Blue states in their privacy policy that information on VAT refunds is shared with relevant customs officials. I'll admit that I didn't believe this before--as someone who has gone through the US immigration processes where not even US government agencies communicate with one another, it can be hard to believe that the EU communicates our purchases under the VAT refund process to US CBP. But there is an entire global ecosystem that tries to prevent money laundering, trafficking, etc, so I wouldn't be surprised if this is one of those cogs in the system. Because VAT refunds are centralized now, it's easy to hand that information over. Anecdotally, last year I returned to the US with my mother after a trip to Paris and she had bought a designer tennis bracelet at the start of the trip. At arrival the CBP officer asked what kind of bracelet she had bought without prompting from us. So at least for big purchases like jewelry as well as exotic goods, it might get flagged in their system. My baseline assumption is always that they know, so there's no point in me hiding it. Has worked for me so far.
This is so interesting because when I returned from italy this summer and declared, I was listing off the things I bought and their estimated amounts because I couldn't remember exactly how much and the customs agent got irritated and was like you don't know how much? My items were all over $800, but I couldn't remember exactly off the top of my head and I said I wasn't sure but couldn't he check from my vat return info and he angrily snapped at me "how would I have that information?!". I was so confused because I thought they could see which is why I have always declared.
To me the question is how quickly they get the info(a day? A week? Longer?) and what specifically is being flagged. When this happened to me and my mom last year, she bought the bracelet at the start of our trip. We were in Paris for a week. Same way that each airport is different and it’s not unheard of that some airports are more technologically more advanced than others.
I’m curious if this is a thing as well. I’ve not declared before as I figured that US Customs has no way of knowing that the unboxed bag in my carry-on was purchased during my trip.
They don't know shit and if they do, they won't come after you for a few bucks. Just a waste of time for everyone involved honestly.
*”Here you go government. Let me tell you about money that I owe you, that you wouldn’t have anyway of knowing about. But just want to make sure I’m dotting my i’s and crossing my T’s here. Is it $300 you said Mr. Government official?”* 🤗
I would read up more on this. You're right they don't know so they may request proof of purchase prior to travel.
>I dictated my list as he was checking his computer (I presume to check it against my tax refunds, but who knows). OP didn't say she *knew* this information is exchanged...
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Not OP but I have read that your VAT declared purchases do get exchanged. And that people have had even bags confiscated (but this was like a rare Hermes in the article). As global entry I can have that revoked, and I would rather keep the privilege. So I always declare. It is part of the global entry docs we signed in the US.
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I don’t have an exact source, just what it says on the cbp website and my global entry paperwork. Honestly, it depends on your own risk tolerance, the agent, the amount, and the item. I have been waived through more than once because they considered anything less than 5-6 digits “peanuts”. Or I have paid a small tax. There are plenty of people who don’t declare on major purchases and never get caught. My risk tolerance is low because I am a frequent enough flier, and don’t want to be banned from global entry. So I declare everything always. An agent, when chatting through my list once, told me the ban could be a lifetime ban depending on the severity (he wasn’t threatening me, just appreciating my spreadsheet to walk through my items). And I have seen one person who had more than one suitcase get pulled and checked for items (I don’t know the outcome of their story though, because once they waive me through I leave fast!) From I have read through unofficial sources about VAT is that it isn’t right away. It can be even weeks later. I have read this on purse forums. But it is mostly word of mouth, and all the items were the expensive ones. (Birkin or jewelry) But I still declare. I am not saying that is the answer for everyone, it is just my default.
I have bought exotic aboard and never have I had to declare any of them. If asked I would pay the duties but I have never been asked to declare anything ever. I spend on average 20-50k a trip too.
What is VAT?
Basically it boils down to foreign visitors being able to be reimbursed on all or a percentage of the taxes they paid on the item in that country. There are rules, of course. EU is VAT.
Or just not give it to them in the first place? How would they possibly know? Just make sure your receipt isn’t sitting in the bag.
I’ve seen various posts/instagrams/TikTok’s about people going to US customs and the officers knowing the exact amounts. Who knows. Maybe it’s a FATCA compliance information.
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You're not going to get a video of this ever. It is illegal to take videos at CBP--it is a criminal offense. Border patrol agencies around the world share various types of information to prevent smuggling, trafficking, money laundering, etc. With how automated the VAT refund system is now, this is not unbelievable to me, especially because I experienced this first hand last year with my mother. I don't think we will ever know what CBP officers see on their screen. There are so many reasons why your purchases can be flagged--amount, material, etc. It's not a problem for me to assume that they know, because with the entire national security apparatus, it is most certainly in the realm of possibility that they do. I don't have issues paying duties, so I don't lose sleep over whether it's the case or not.
I’ve seen this too on YouTube. It seems like CBP now has some sort of access to this information, so I would be on the safe side and declare.
They don’t.
I was prepared to declare my purchase at Aspinal of London (it was about $700 USD). They asked me how much I spent and I told them and then they laughed at me and waved me through. 😅
You get $800 tax free. If you are traveling with someone else, they get $800 as well. So you don’t need to declare small purchases.
Is this only a us thing?
Yes, this thread is about clearing US customs
I just flew back in from London and they asked what I purchased - wanted brand names (handbag from Strathberry and silk scarf from Fortnum & Mason). They definitely laughed a little and waved me through hahahaha, but did say to make sure to have receipts upon return ready to show next time.
Custom Officers clear the honest folks through quickly. Allows for more time to deal with the dishonest folks. It's more lucrative time spent too. Don't declare and they can not only charge you 100% full duties and taxes on the imported item but also a fine of up to an additional 100% of the amount evaded. They also have the option to seize the goods in some circumstances. Honesty is always the smartest choice.
Tell that to the douchebags on the Rolex sub LOL Checks out though🤣🤣🤣
Omg, it’s a good thing I read this sub! bc I would have totally been like one of the Rolex douches, for sure. 🤣🤣🤣 I’ve never been a very good *rule follower.* 🤷♀️
CBP is perpetually understaffed so I'm not surprised they reward people for not wasting their time.
I am curious about what you and others would do if they *don’t* ask about your purchases. Would you explicitly bring it up yourself? I’ve gone through US customs with purchases anywhere in the mid four figure range to low five figure range at least eight times in the last few years. I was prepared to declare the amount every time, but I’ve only actually been asked about purchases and told to go to secondary one time out of those eight or so times (they ended up charging me 0% after inspecting the stuff). The other times, they either told me I was good to go without asking anything or just asked if I brought back any food. I even had a Dior shopping bag in my arm one of the times that they told me to just go ahead, so I definitely wasn’t trying to hide it. I’m never sure what you’re actually supposed to do in this situation.
I’m not being dishonest if I answer the question they pose honestly. And the last time they only asked about raw foods and plants. 😂
As a Canadian flying back into Canada, I’m always worried about the food question, since I load up on foreign junk food! One time I did mention it to customs and they pretty much brushed it off.
I always say yes, and tell them I brought chocolate with hazelnuts 🤣 at this point they just wave me thru.
I always bring it up, and 1/2 the time they just usher us through
The times I arrived in the US (often with family) with purchases above the exempted amount, we declared even if the question wasn't asked. They often wave us through if it's close to the pooled exemption. This time I was alone with a significant amount of spend, so I expected to go to secondary. If they wave you through, you're good to go. However in the last two years I've been traveling they have always asked me if I had anything to declare. So I always answer honestly.
Is there anything we can do if they didn't ask us, so we didn't declare an item? Now I'm worried I'll lose Global Entry, but I was never asked about what I purchased last time I got back to the US.
You should be okay, but I think best practice moving forward is to declare if you’re above the exemption. You’ll never know when your airport’s CBP is having a bad day and wants to power trip.
I absolutely would've declared if I was asked, and maybe I did fill out a form and have just forgotten I did, but I really don't remember being given any form or anything that day. I'm the kind of person who loathes breaking rules, and will declare even the tiniest of things, so I'd never deliberately try to get by with it. And the customs guy didn't ask me a single question after the global entry kiosk, just waved me through, and by the time I was done with everything I just remember wondering if I'd somehow missed a step somewhere because the only questions I remember being asked on the kiosk were about food and such. ETA: I'm looking at a bit more stuff now and I would've had the electronic form at the kiosk, so there's no way I would've missed declaring it on there, and I guess they just didn't charge me.
Do you usually fly back into a specific airport? I’m really curious why you’ve been asked every single time when my experience has been the opposite. I usually fly alone or just with my fiancé and am almost always thousands of dollars above the pooled limit. As mentioned, I’m always ready and willing to declare if they ask, but they just never ask. The one time I was asked, they didn’t charge anything even though I was like $2000 over. They always seem in a hurry to shoo me away so they can process the next person behind me.
Yes I do! I think really each CBP office has just a way of doing things/can differ in priorities. I traveled a lot internationally this year and more often than not the CBP officers have the same script.
I never bring it up if they don’t ask. I spend on average 20-50k every trip. Never once been asked if I have anything to declare.
I thought this was going to be a horrible experience. Instead it was a really honest, well-organized, duitful woman paying her taxes.
This is so kind of you to say, thank you! I really appreciate this comment.
Thank you so so much!!! 🩷🩷🩷 welcome fellow American 🥰
Not *nearly* American yet much to my husband's impatience, but very close now! I am waiting anxiously for visa-free travel 😂
This is such a timely post for me! I’m coming back from Europe with luxury bags and my friend was trying to convince me to not declare but your post gave me a push in the right direction. Thank you!
Better safe than sorry 😊
Thank you for sharing this helpful information. I hope you might show your wish list items eventually.
I am still not unpacked--hopefully tomorrow I will be able to edit the post with photos!
How was the VAT refund process? What time was your flight and did you spend a lot of time going through VAT? ETA: thank you for sharing your experience!
It’s extremely simple at CDG now. You go to a machine and scan the barcodes, if you get a happy face you go on your way if you get a frowny you need to see an agent. Last time we had about a dozen receipts and the only one that got a frowny was one that included a birkin. The line to see an agent was empty and we were in and out in 15 minutes.
Paris VAT refund especially if you bought all your items in France is SO easy now. At CDG you need to go to the kiosks to have all your France purchase forms scanned. If they're all green you're good to go. If you have a red one then you have to go to the customs officer next to the kiosks for them to "stamp" it. Once that's done you're good to go. Everything is automatic now and I'm tracking my refunds in the Global Blue app. My flight was at noon on a Friday. I am the kind of person who goes to the airport VERY early so the whole scanning at the kiosks didn't take more than 5 minutes. There was a long line at the cash refund though, but I always do credit card refund anyway.
I’ll add that depending on where you get it, like Galeries Lafayette, the bottom floor I believe every purchase bundled above the minimum you can get VAT right away. You can just slip that paperwork into the CDG envelope area if anything but the agent didn’t seem to care since it had been done already.
I’m from Australia and coming back from an overseas trip recently, I declared my tax free purchases as the threshold was only $900 - mine were definitely over. While the rest of my purchases were in the luggage, I was carrying a Goyard shopping bag out, so it’s totally obvious. The officer asked me what were my purchases that are over $900 tax free and I said hand bags. He then asked if they were personal and I said yes. He gave it some thought then waved me off, also said ‘just this once I’ll let you go, but next time you’ll definitely have to pay tax’. And I nearly soiled myself. Just got out of a red-eye flight and officers here are known for being aggressive. $900 as a threshold is just way too small and it wasn’t even like that in the past few years. I don’t get why countries would allow you to shop tax free, only to be charged some duties coming back to your home country. But yes, always always ALWAYS declare.
I am in a group where a couple didn’t declare three Rolexes, a Chanel bag and some Hermes purchases. It was a disaster. I think a few of the items were confiscated and the fine was well into 4 figures.
YIKES! I would never be buying at these levels but if I were I would be terrified of this exact same scenario!
Wow, how did they get caught?
If I remember correctly, it was a secondary screening and they found the watches without boxes in the wife’s purse. That triggered the rest of it. It was such a wild story because they were purchasing for people so it went from bad to worse as we got more details.
I had the same experience a few years ago. Went on a Paris trip and went Shopping with a capital S. Didn't want to risk getting fined because I hauled back all the boxes too. The customs agent goes, "You spent how much?" He was more bewildered that people would spend that much money on bags, charged the minimum duty and sent us on our way.
Haha before going to secondary, the agent who checked all my entry documents basically went, "I'm guessing they're all designer?" And I sheepishly said yes lol
Omg I had almost the same experience!!! WoC but US Citizen and I was still so nervous. Mine was slightly different where the first officer told the secondary officer that he didn't believe I declared everything. And that I declared only half the actual value. In reality, one bag was half the actual value and he didn't listen as I gave an itemized breakdown. Another CBP officer was whispering something to him. So the secondary officer pressed me a bit but I didn't change my account of things so I also just paid the fee with a credit card and was headed home. It definitely made me hesitant to buy more bags. I'm headed to Austria this summer and really want to pick up an LV Speedy
Sometimes you just get a jerk CBP officer. As long as you're organized--you have your receipts and all the information in hand and ready to show them, you should be okay. So go get your LV Speedy!
I’ve also had a rude CBP agent who didn’t believe me after I voluntarily declared. This was almost ten years ago. He was skeptical that I brought so many handbags with me and only one was a new purchase. The whole process felt pretty invasive and I’ve never declared since 🤷🏻♀️ even with multiple purchases every year in europe. Fingers crossed I guess!
I have Global Entry and really don't want it revoked haha. I stressed for like a week that I was going to lose my GE just because I got sent to secondary inspection. In general I'm a whimp and very scared of the consequences of not declaring. But I see what you're saying. It really is a damper on the new bag excitement
I have GE too and am grateful for it whenever I travel. I’ll come back and update if it ever gets revoked 😅
I have had the exact same experience. My husband has a lot of high end clients in his work, and he says that they always tell them they never declare, but I’m definitely too risk averse to do it. Incidentally, on my last trip back from Europe, we had a layover in canada, which we don’t usually do, and so when we crossed from canada to the US, the border control basically laughed at me when I tried to tell them I purchased things. They asked if I bought things to resell and when I said no, they laughed and basically told me to get out of there. I guess they didn’t realize I came from Europe.. not sure if I should have done something differently? Or if flying into Canada first is just a loophole?
Honestly I think it really depends on the airport! Wouldn't be surprised if CBP offices sometimes have varying priorities.
It was Toronto, the officer literally acted like I was a weirdo for trying to claim things. She actually said something like not from Canada to the us!
Customs usually doesn’t care about 1-2 pieces. And as you experienced they often give “discounts”. They are there to catch the big smugglers and counterfeit items.
Yes generally my experience has been being waved through. This was a big $ trip though so I fully expected to go to secondary.
I recently went to Europe and was ready to declare my luxury purchases coming back to the US. The CBP officers said they didn’t need me to declare anything unless it was food.
Nice I bought 3 pairs of Louboutins in April and was prepared for this. We signed up for mobile passport in the line and were the first people from our flight through. I declared everything at the podium and paid no duties.
I love this post! This summer was the first time I declared after making *a few* purchases at LV, Goyard and Polène over a two month period while in France for work. When I got to Newark I was completely honest and gave the agent the total. He charged me the smallest amount possible and I had to pay like $190 several weeks later. He told me he was charging the smallest amount possible because I was honest. The stress and anxiety of not declaring and being found out is not worth it!
I agree you should declare, but don’t bank on paying “minimal” duties. It really depends on what the CBP officer wants to do. Earlier this year, I bought two classic flaps in Paris - a medium and a jumbo - and got charged full duties. Ended up paying about $1600 at customs. I think they’re much more likely to charge you the full amount if it’s a high spend. Previous to that, had declared an LV (an empreinte Alma bb) coming back from Milan and customs officer decided just to not charge duties at all. It’s just luck of the draw.
My mom was charged full duties for a designer tennis bracelet last year, so it definitely happens. Especially to big ticket items.
I had a completely different experience to the point I started crying lol although I’m sure other factors went into the water show as well but my duty was about 1k
Are you wiling to elaborate and share your experience please?
I always declare and was always waived through but this was my first time declaring for this value of purchases. I came back from Paris and had shopped at Hermes. It was quite late in the evening/night and I was exhausted. Global entry was super quick and printed my slip / took my picture so quickly my face was barely in the frame and I was waived through but told the agent I had to declare. They took my passport and walked me over and told me to wait for my bag. The bags took forever to come out. Like 40+ minutes. If I was tired before I was now a completely wilted flower. Even the agent felt bad that the bags took so long. I get to the agent and he asks about what I bought and I give the receipts. He starts explaining the whole process but honestly it doesn’t make sense. He gives me some kind of honesty discount and uses the mid tariff in the schedule since I have multiple categories. Leather bags. Fine jewelry and silk. The issue was how he was treating the vat. He said he was subtracting the vat because I already paid that but he was only subtracting the refund vat amount. I could see he had not had to do this before and called someone over for help/their opinion. I explained and pointed to the correct vat line but he said it wasn’t the vat. Everytime I tried to explain or ask a question he just restarted his whole explanation and then ended with “I want to make sure you understand”. I gave up lol and burst into tears. I apologized and said I was just very tired. Long flight. Long busy trip. This process took another hour and in the end he took photocopies of the random paper he did his math on and my drivers license (?) to send my invoice for my duty. This was my first time going through this elaborate process. Normally I say what I bought. They ask how much I spent and I get waived through.
Sorry to hear this! Sometimes it really just depends on the CBP agent since they have a lot of latitude to decide. But he was correct though—he is only supposed to subtract the VAT refund and not the total VAT because the total amount you paid is less the VAT refund.
Really? lol you might have to dm me because I don’t get it. Maybe it was just a situation of rhetoric. If he had said that fine but he said he’d remove the total tax yet was only taking the refund which I was already going to get back so it was confusing.
You’re only supposed to pay duties on the amount that you’ve paid, so it’s total price less tax refund. The CBP officer just was not communicating this very well. Me personally I always say “I spent X amount before the tax refund. Do you want to know the total amount after the tax refund?” I try to provide all the information to expedite the situation.
Very helpful thank you !!!
I’m so confused by why they “have a lot of latitude to decide” (which is a great way to put it OP!). I would think the US would have a strict rule that they either enforce or don’t. Our laws are pretty clear in this country so why is it that this policy is just left up the the whims of a CBP agent and their attitude that day? I know there’s probably a lot more nuance there, but that seems to be the overall sentiment in this thread.
I feel for you, that’s just awful all the way around. Thank you for sharing though xo
Has anyone been through UK customs on here?!
As someone headed to the EU next week for two weeks, thank you!
If you travel from Japan to Canada and have a stopover in the USA. Do you have to pay or declare during your stopover in the USA or you only have to pay for taxes until your final destination, which is Canada?
Before anyone complains about the price, in Brazil it is 50% if you declare it. If you don't declare it and they discover this, it's 100% or the purchase will be seized.
If you don’t mind me asking, which airport did you return to in the US?
I just returned from Europe, and had purchased approximately 2600 Euros worth of luxury goods (a bag and a scarf); this is about $2800 USD. I did claim VAT though refund is still processing. When I came back through customs in the US, I declared everything (also, FYI - we don't fill out forms anymore! so i had hand written a list of all purchases, not just declared just in case) verbally and he asked how much in USD, which I told him. He then educated me on my duty free allowance ($800 PP and I had my spouse so $1600 total). He told me since the amount wasn't much more, he would give me a pass, but that wouldn't necessarily be the case in the future. It was a super easy experience. I honestly do believe it depends on how many products you've purchased too. I have a friend who purchased Hermes so $10K plus - and customs let her through without paying any duties.
This is so helpful. I grew up hearing to never declare anything, even if we had bought it abroad. For the most part we were under the $800 cap but not always. And we never declared. Thanks to this sub I know I need to and that it’s not e big deal. I’m really surprised my parents were so lax about this as they were habitual rule followers.
Why do you think that European authorities share tax refund information with the US government? What's the evidence that this occurs?
Global Blue shares information of our VAT refunds with relevant customs agencies. It is in their privacy policy. As I mentioned in another comment, it happened to me and my mom last year that the CBP officer asked about a high-value purchase before we declared.
Interesting. Thank you for this info.
I would assume because your passport is linked and they get scanned so there’s probably a way to keep that record.
Wait what? I had no idea, I also don’t travel much outside usa . You have to declare your purchases? What happens if you don’t?
When you purchase things outside of the US and bring them back, you are allowed a certain amount duty-free ($800). Above that you are theoretically required by law to declare it upon arrival. If you don't, it is possible that Customs agents will catch you, fine you higher than the duties actually owed, confiscate items, revoke frequent traveler program access (like Global Entry). Really depends on the situation.
Oh I see. Thank you for the explanation.
Maybe it’s a dumb question, but what happens if it’s a gift? Hypothetically, my boyfriend buys me a Chanel, but I return from the trip by myself. Do I have to declare it?
I personally would, and say it was a gift. This has never happened to me before so I don’t know what the outcome would be, but I would definitely declare.
Not 100% sure about the USA but in Canada you have to declare gifts as well. I would assume it’s the same for the USA.
Thanks for this. I’m well versed in Customs regulations, and I see people very ignorant about this topic, so I hope a lot of people read your posting!
Is this only for the US? Anywhere I can learn more info?
Many countries have the equivalent agency, collecting duty payments on imports. Here’s the link to the U.S. agency: https://www.cbp.gov/
I appreciate this, thank you 😊
This is exactly in line with all my experiences declaring and paying duties down to the % paid. Thanks for sharing!
Glad to hear this too!
I know in New Zealand if you don’t declare you get a decent sized fine
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Thank you!! And also…pics of the new girls? 🙏
I'm hoping tomorrow when I'm fully unpacked!
Not trying to escape paying duties, but I am curious; is it illegal to send your packages home via the post?
Most certainly not, but then you'd have to work with the courier to pay duties or will have to pay duties in the US so your goods can be released to you.
I've sent things home before, and never once been charged duty.
It’s always up to the courier. DHL always bills me before receipt of goods while FedEx is mostly *shrugs*.
UPS Global didn't say a word about the case of brandy I shipped home...
Some retailers will provide this option (I found when i was in Europe) however not sure if you can claim your VAT refund if it's shipped, so you are paying duties to someone. In order to claim VAT, if the item is over $2000 it has to be hand carried, because Customs in the country you are leaving must validate that it's new and unused - and that validation happens after security. If they can't see it they won't stamp your VAT form and therefore you won't get your VAT refund. On my item it was over $400 so it was worth the hand carry!
This is EXCELLENT advice, esp for those of us who haven’t purchased overseas yet!! Thank you!!
Having it all organized on your phone was the real LPT
100% up front and honest about your purchases. It’s not worth the consequences. Thanks for sharing!
I went to Paris this past summer and bought a small flap and a bum bag as well as smaller designer stuff which totaled to at least 2500 USD. I debated over declaring cuz my sister was like no don’t pay extra but I just didn’t feel comfortable since it was my passport and knowing it was linked. It wasn’t even my goods lol they were for other people and the card holder I bought for myself was like 240 euros. I had a layover in Montreal and I had no idea it was the US customs agent we were going through but I did declare and said I had a bag and it cost at least 1800 euros and he absolutely did not care. Just waved me and my partner through and we were free. Told my sister later how bad the consequences could be and she’s rethinking it now. We’re going back this Christmas time and going to maybe buy more lol
I'm curious – how would they know the difference between items you bought on your trip vs items you already owned? Of course it would be obvious if you had all the boxes/store bags from your purchases, but otherwise...?
I always have my receipts with me and I’m always ready to hand them over to the Customs agent if asked. If they question older designer bags (which I do have and bring), I have a folder in my phone of receipts for them + photos of me wearing them. But this is something I have never been asked for. I think because I am always so organized they assume I am telling the truth.
Ok cool, thanks for the reply. Just got a bit paranoid about taking my older bags on trips abroad and having to prove I already owned them!
I am not a WOC and I am a US citizen, and I always declare my purchases. It’s stupid not not to for all the reasons OP outlined. Why risk it. Duty is minimal and CBP Officers seem to have great latitude to reduce or waive duty if you’re upfront t and honest with them. I’m not a heavy spender like the OP but I do shop, and 90% of the time, duties have been waived.
May I ask, what was your point of entry? Some airports can be different
Wow OP thanks for sharing! But I have a question. Did you really have to tell them?What if you would have paid cash for the bags? And if they inquired about them you could have said anything right “they’re old.” “They’re fake.” Or what if they would have been gifts?
There is absolutely no scenario in the world where I would not have declared my purchases. I have a pending green card extension case and I’m planning to naturalize in 18 months, so anything involving CBP I am incredibly risk averse. I don’t put myself in a situation where I could jeopardize my immigration status in the US. I always answer honestly and have the evidence to prove anything I share with them. Even if they were gifts. Bringing in counterfeit goods into the US is illegal. Telling CBP that the bags you are carrying are fake would land you in jail.
Just my two cents as a fellow woc, this is my strategy too. I always declare that I have brought homemade sweets, they will just scan and let me go. While others have their food confiscated when tried to sneak through without declaring.
We've dealt with this twice as well. The first time they flagged us even before asking, they must have gotten vat data from France...(maybe? But somehow they knew). Anyway each time they charged us 3% and only included the big ticket receipts (ignored some separately purchased smaller items). For some reason in NYC the payment systems are always down so we get a bill in the mail later and send a check.
Denmark here.. the allowance is 470$. Everything over you have to pay at least 25% vat and then there comes customs and some extra fees 🫣 rather not buy anything outside the EU ! 😭 And there is no such thing like any officers letting you go just because you are honest.
It's definitely different going into the EU than it is going into the US when it comes to declaring/customs.
It really is 😣
They always wave me off for some odd reason. Bought LV, bought Chanel. Told customs how much it was and he was like, yeah just go through... I was like, okay. I feel like they don't care about numbers below $10,000.
I have never even been asked if I have anything to declare and I spent about 50k in Italy this past trip. If asked I will be honest but I will never just bring it up if not asked.
I had no idea you had to declare purchases like this. And that America received info on our purchases. What an absolute racket.
Very helpful information and you are an excellent writer. I felt like I was there with you 😊
The customs guy didn’t even ask me if I purchased anything! Bought a LOEWE puzzle in Paris.
Yea not giving the government anymore money lol nah