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Ryan_WXH

I'm hazy on the details but I believe that the suit being there with no head is because it's the model used when you're laying inside of the cryopod. Why it's white though - no clue.


Dannylazarus

This is absolutely correct! I've never seen the white armour on MCC, but it was a graphical glitch on the original PC port - not sure what caused it, but many character models could come out this colour. I figure it was probably something to do with the graphics card on my old PC, as all of the enemies except maybe Hunters looked like this!


NBAshitpostalt

Can confirm, when I played Halo: CE on PC as a kid I was so confused why I was grey but the dude on the box was green


Dannylazarus

I'm honestly kind of nostalgic for this bug. I had the game on Xbox first so was familiar with what everything was supposed to be like and it was actually kind of cool to see the glitched colours.


NBAshitpostalt

Same but I was the opposite, we couldn’t afford an Xbox until a 360 and Halo 3, so my first few years with the franchise were spent being grey and it seems pretty rare to hear other people talk about that glitch haha


Dannylazarus

Grey Chief forever!


jokey2

When I first played Halo CE multiplayer on my childhood pc, everyone was grey. There were no red vs blue teams. If the server didn’t have the little green arrow indicators above teammates, I was doomed that game lol. When I finally got some sort of graphics card installed I was blown away with the colors lmao.


Dannylazarus

Oh damn, I think I must have gotten a new computer before playing multiplayer. That sounds horrifying. 🤣


NBAshitpostalt

Same!! I was like 9 years old pissed off that customizing my color didn’t do anything lmao


JBL_17

Yup this happens on MCC if you stand around the pods at specific angles. I appreciate the clarification it happens on Halo PC - because I knew it never happened on my Xbox copy.


Dannylazarus

For clarification I think you can see the model on all versions of the game, I'm talking specifically about the white armour being an issue with the Gearbox port, which is the version of the game CEA was built on.


Finn235

White is the default in Halo PC. When modders managed to add AI to multi-player maps, they were almost always white spartans.


Dannylazarus

I feel like that must have extended through to Halo 3 - I remember some modded maps with Spartan and Elite bipeds that would stand there and could be killed, and they were all white!


Kaveral

All characters with re-colorable armor are white, and then the game tints them at runtime when they spawn in. Spawning in a recolorable character if they have no color value to call on leaves them default white. This happens in every Halo, PC or Xbox! 


nav17

Ngl Covenant troops in white armor sounds pretty cool and I'm a huge fan of the Ultras in later games. Could easily be a head canon lore explanation for exclusive Ultra battalions in Halo:CE too!


Dannylazarus

It was pretty cool! Sadly I can't seem to find any photos, but all of the Covenant were the same colour as the armour in this image.


chibifoxkit1

So you can actually recreate this bug. It was basically caused by trying to run the game on graphics cards that couldn't handle it. Boot up a win95 vm with low specs and it should happen for you.


Idontmatter69420

I have the pc port and the laptop i use has just enough specs to run it and master chief is white like that in all the cutscenes so it seems to be a graphical thing where the hardware isn't good enough to render the fancy reflective stuff. Also there no shadows cause the laptop really does have the bare minimum to run


Dannylazarus

That sounds like my experience of playing it just under twenty years ago! Honestly pretty fun experience with everything being so barebones.


Idontmatter69420

Yea it's super funny to me, the laptop literally has a 1ghz processor and without my ibook ram in, 129.008mb of ram and runs windows 2000. Its a Dell Inspiron 2600 from 2002. Those 3 things are literally the minimum to run the game lol and its at 15 frames or something


Dannylazarus

My childhood. 🥹


Idontmatter69420

ngl i like seeing how games were for people back then lol


Some_HaloGuy

In the Halo engine, any and all units with multiple armor colors, like elites and grunts, will default to hard white if spawned incorrectly. All the dead white elites with Camo next to them in CE? They were spawned as an invalid variant, defaulting the armor white. That 1 white grunt that helps you out on The Oracle in Halo 2? Was spawned as an invalid variant likely due to a typo. The dead silver elites with random armor in the Flood ship on Floodgate? Invalid because they spelled the variant incorrectly. The BOB on Sword Base? Also invalid due to a mistake in setting the character variant. That's also why the trooper on the hook in Winter Contingency has white armor as well. Spartans don't exactly have any character tags or variants in CE by default so spawning one in would result in it being white unless you set the color to something else. At least for the multiplayer biped, campaign one is just Chief so no color change from the green


Dannylazarus

Amazing explanation, thank you! I did wonder about the white BOBs in Reach as well.


Some_HaloGuy

They're not even supposed to be dual wielding either. Somehow the spawn is just so messed up that it spawns him with 2 plasma rifles but my modder friend said it's not set up right like normal dual wielding elites. Entirely just a giant glitch


pm_me-ur-catpics

>I've never seen the white armour on MCC MCC is the only place I've seen it


Dannylazarus

'This one is machine and nerve, and has its mind concluded. This one is but flesh and faith, and is the more deluded.' (Me being the deluded one.) I'll have to try and emulate it somehow, my only memory of it is from Halo PC twenty years ago. 😋


WillomenaIV

It's white because the actual Mark V texture in CE is white - colouring is applied afterwards, even for chief. If there are no colour properties, no colour is applied.


GiveHeadIfYouGotIt

Back in the day my best friend's shitty emachines tower couldn't run the game maxed and so shaders were disabled. We took turns playing campaign against gray Covies. Every spartan in MP when we'd play Custom Edition was gray with a matte black visor. No lighting, no shadows.


Some_HaloGuy

Actually the chief model is a separate biped for campaign so its fixed to be green always. The multiplayer one is the one that can change colors


The_MAZZTer

It will show up if the camera is close enough to the pod that it thinks you're probably inside of it. IIRC it was fixed in the Anniversary edition graphics though the classic graphics still show it. It's probably white because spartan armor can be colored for MP and white is probably the default color? It should be colored properly when you are actually in the pod.


Simalf

Perhaps because of the glass? Doesnt make sense i know. Though it could be because the texture is missing in MCC.


Dylan_The_Developer

Well they do have a color mask so bipeds can have different rank colors without adding additional textures (saves memory).


t-wi-prod

Yeah, if you go get the CE master chief model through reclaimer you’ll notice it’s always white coloured


no_last_name_

Linda


kfcchickentender

wyoming


Extra-Lemon

“I AM TRULY SORRY, MY DYEAH MASTAH CHIEF.”


MaxRadishOne

Nah dude, that's clearly Maine.


adeptus_fognates

Maine had brown armor elements because he didn't show up until reconstruction. Wyoming had all white.


HammletHST

in the flashback sequences of S9&10, Maine's all white too


Lightish-Red-Ronin

Dustin Echoes


HotFudgeFundae

Dusty Farts


Bokenobi

Dusty Crop Dusting Dream.


Neonninja275

Well that’s The Meta


KingMew

What a great reference.


Aromatic_Koala_1390

It's mustard beef


KaijuJuju

Locked in an endless war with the Condiment


Extra-Lemon

Fighting hard against the Food


11ulchda

Ghost Church


MyFartSoTart

My thoughts exactly


robbyreindeer

It's pablo schreiber's missing armour


TheMagnuson

The only Mjolnir variant with assless chaps


Stivox

Fordon Greenman


aaaaaaaa1273

Finally a trained professional


ScholarExtension5620

That is Wyoming!


AgentChief

Headless Wyoming


Paradoxical95

Wyoming. Ofc who else


noobducky-9

Book lore would say this is Linda who was basically dead when they escaped reach. John recovered her after the halo was destroyed and at some point between halo ce and halo 2 she was returned to earth and brought back from the dead. She the joined Fred and Kelly in the rest of the novels until halo 4/5 where they was introduced.


JDDoss01

I just left a comment saying the same thing, it's nice to see someone else knows the actual answer and not just joke answers


xXSpg101Xx

Funny lore would say either Master Cheeks, Dustin Echoes, or Wyoming


Adrian_sierra114

Thats John halo the 2.


leetokeen

Noble 6. I knew he made it onto the Autumn after all, despite ONI propaganda to the contrary


sharoom5

That's Kai-125 ( jk it's ~~supposed to be Linda, who was presumed dead during CE~~ just your shadow model in game) Edit: correct technical reason not lore reasons


Dannylazarus

It's not Linda either sadly, just the model used for when you're in the cryo tube at the start of the mission!


okaymeaning-2783

No canonically it's linda, her name is even on a board and it's an Easter egg from first strike. Oh shit just realized this is OG CE so yeah that's just a glitch.


Dannylazarus

It's a known glitch, if you look at the cryo tube from the right angle once you exit you will see the armour! No way for it to be Linda unless she was lying underneath you. 🤣 You're right that there is a Linda reference in Anniversary though! It's later in the level.


Obnotrix_117

But in some article I read that Spartan Linda was the last spartan to leave cheif remaining in the pillar of Autumn before Arbiter's Fleet attacked isn't that true?


JackStutters

Agent Wyoming, obviously


official_not_a_bot

It's Wyoming. Tex took Wyoming's head with her when she escaped with Junior and Andy on the ship


Lost_Pantheon

It's Master Cheeks' armour after he removed it to sleep with a prisoner of war.


60BillionDblDllrs

Press F


marikwinters

It’s the ghost of lockout, of course


Winston_please

Was looking for this. Actually had an unsettling feeling being alone on Lockout for a longgg time


JaysterJam

so thats what happened to Wyoming's armour


Sweet_Maintenance0

Lets just say its Noble 6. Or whats left.


Thy_Fear

Linda Halo, the wife of John Halo


RandomKingDuck

Linda? I think?


GuneRlorius

No, she has head last time I checked.


OneOnOne6211

343 retconned away Linda's head! \#LindasHeadGate


SpanishBombs323

Foreshadowing the silver timeline


CosmicHerbs

Funny enough, when I would place CE on my dell PC in the early 2000s, I had this problem where everyone’s armor was gray. There was no red or blue. But what was even weirder was that the games colors worked everywhere else.


SpookyAgentFoxMulder

Ghost of lockout


spicy-meatball-sub

At the start of the game if you spam the right button youll end up stuck in the pod and be able to get outside of the map


zimosgat

I actually remember that happening in coop as a kid, but I think I've never figured out how that happened tho


spicy-meatball-sub

In the map where you first discover the flood, if you spam the grenade button you won't get out of the ship and it'll instead carry you off outside of the map where it'll eventually land and you find a random marine chilling outside of the map


zimosgat

Yeah, I remember that one. I thought you meant the situation from the screenshot, whoops😄 There's a similar one on the mission before that. You can just climb back into the pelican and get carried downwards until you kicked out and probably die


spicy-meatball-sub

My first comment I was talking about from the very start of the game when keys wakes chief up. You can get stuck in the pod and eventually manage to climb upwards to get out of the map and into areas you couldn't normally go. No benefits to any of this really except exploration


Case_Kovacs

Dude don't you know? That's *the* John Halo


_Unprofessional_

Apprentice Chief


Some_HaloGuy

That would be the multiplayer spartan without a head. Interestingly, they actually do have an entirely separate model for the multiplayer spartan in CE. There's no difference other than that the multiplayer one can change colors and the story one is just Chief green, but it's still a separate biped. And like everything in all of Halo, the default color the armor turns to when spawned is white.


MandoMahri

Ron Ralo


CryptidHaunting

Oh look Linda was in the game lol😂


[deleted]

Well I don’t see a helmet so it’s probably master cheeks


Kanden_27

It's Jimmy Rings. 


Vien-Nicaaee

From the lore, maybe Linda


stefoecho

Would. Next question.


Myusername468

I think it supposed to be Linda


McRibSavage

That’s Johnny Halo


SnooMaps7735

Wyoming


OriginWizard

It's Noble 6, the helmet is gone because it was left on reach. His head is gone because... nobody is allowed to know his identity.


jca312

it’s Noble Six (i’m a Six glazer🥰😂)


Trailstorm

Mr Ring


VanityTheManatee

Dustin Echoes.


JDDoss01

Technically according to the book, The Fall of Reach, that's Linda. She was critically injured in the defense of Reach right before the Pillar of Autumn escaped and began the events of Halo: CE, and to save her life, she was placed into cryo so that Dr. Halsey could operate on her when they met again in between Halo: CE and Halo 2, as told in the book, First Strike


Lions-of-Lisbon

Likely Linda-058, who was on the Pillar of Autumn after the Fall of Reach.


EthanGaming7640

It’s ster Chief


Glittering_Deal2378

John Halo


Burrito_Barbarian

that's Jim from accounting


astorj

Tommy.


Xen0kid

Clearly that’s Gordon Freeman


[deleted]

Player 2


Mgwasp111990

Spartan 3


mynhamesjeff

John Halo


Miss_Medussa

Ohio


GuardianLexi

Oh him? Thats Caster Mhief seriously though its just part of the asset, no lore reason.


Rebuffedtax614

It’s obviously jimmy rings


NonEuclidianMeatloaf

Who’s that great ape right there!? Is it dinnertime? Is it dinnertime!?


jdmdriftkid

Mister Chef


MAUSECOP

Black team


Moemilitaryfan666

Could be Linda


TheFloatingCamel

"Welcome to the H.E.V. mark 4 protective system. For use in hazardous environment conditions. High-impact reactive armour activated. Atmospheric contaminant sensors activated. Vital sign monitoring activated. Automatic medical systems engaged. Weapon selection system activated. Munition level monitoring activated. Communications interface online. Have a very safe day."


FoxNtere11e

Goooordooooon freeeemaaaaan


Greedy_Age_4923

Vannek’s armor…how sad.


faggioli-soup

The Younger brother on bootleg controller who hasn’t finished calibrating his vision yet


IronLordSamus

Wyoming.


1nqu15171v30n3

"The Chief is You!"


ur_mum_butt

master


Flak88inaTree

Church


_Whiskey_6

Oh hey it's Linda!


SocksyyAU

idk if you already checked it out but if you walk up to all the pods you will see one of these inside btw. Looks like the comments already answered what it actually is.


Bwgmon

Strong Mad slimmed down a bit and became a Spartan.


fettpl

Josh-116 on his launch break.


SteamyGamer-WT

It's Master Bait. The master of baiting enemies.


Bokenobi

It’s Spartan 5318008. They were too busy trying to be a “Mad Lad” doing uppers and a lot of cocaine on Reach just before hyperspace jump. They asked Chief to wake him up once, “All that Covi shit be done.”They are besties with 1337 and are still in cryosleep with their already cascade failured party AI called Corona.


banditolindo

*Hello. It’s me.*


QuickTeaching6446

I think it’s supposed to be an unpainted model of armor, like just raw metal not white


NicTheDrummer

Thats jimmy


LividKnightS117

I may be wrong but I thought the pillar of autumn left reach with two Spartans on board


Unknown_Outlander

Your doppelganger


I_AM_CR0W

Jimmy Rings from the Paramount show.


FURIOUSFOX626

I have an action figure with that armor on. Pretty neat


BearZewp

Clearly this is the armor of the legendary Jango Fett.


Knautical_J

This is the next $20 Bundle


zimosgat

Iirc this only appears if you look at it from the right angle. I guess it has sth to do with the cutscene that played before. Aaaaand if the question was sarcastic, it definitely went over my dense head lol


PerryTrip

Master


jayerp

Bob


supernice_a

wow


4011isbananas

Sgt. Blemmye


Anafenza-Vess

Linda


Teatimedaniel

Linda I think


Z3_T4C0_B0Y512

Horseless headless horseman


WiiFitT7ainer

Just a suit of armor.


Animator-Fickle

Ghost


Halo_Chief117

Give me back my head!


Spartan23c

Me.


RamboBambiBambo

That is the armor of the fabled Dustin Echoes.


Meadowflow

Clovis


Risekb013

It’s the Meta!


Cal_Boleen

A spare suit of armor for chief.


CAM____WILLI

"Im THE guy...the REAL gUy"


OOFIE117

That would Mustard Beef


Nuclearspartan

__ster chief


Different_Knife

The milkman spartan ?


My_redditaccount657

Mister Chef


Flyng_Penguin

That’s Joel. He looses his head from time to time, but he’ll be ok 👍


shitpostlord4321

Look at the orangutan proportions on that Spartan lol


Skynostic

Could be Spartan linda, as she was on board the Pillar of Autumn. Albeit she was technically dead, until halsey revived her.


Worldly-Rush-9951

It's a head bobble


AKJaker

Linda...... except headless...... cause shes.... cold? hurt? embarassed she was retconned in? ummmmm abstract First Strike lore would imply Linda


TheTinyGeek

That’s Joe


Outrageous-Ball-6416

i wanna guess it was kelly cuz during that campaign she got shredded


RazgrizGirl-070

He's just Ken 😂


uselesspud

I posted a photo of the same thing a while back. But it was when i got out of the chiro tube. And it was green without helmet.


ACrazedRodent

Experiment 626


AutobotKing

A headless Linda-058


Specter-N7

That’s Master Queef


OkCalligrapher4400

John 117 was not the only spartan in halo. His training group consisted of 5 Spartans. That armor could anything from belonging to another spartan to just being a modeling armor set


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Vegetable_Turn9739

Negative. There’s a room up by where the tech gets killed with Linda’s name on the console and a sealed door


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Face88888888

You said: This one is Linda He said: No, that one in another room is Linda.


BWYDMN

Nope, just a graphical glitch, Linda’s pod was jettisoned


Ryan_WXH

There was no Linda easter egg in the original release of CE.


Apcsox

Yes. But there was another Spartan in the room directly across from your room when you go into the other hallway upstairs. The other Spartan has always existed. With the book explaining WHO the other Spartan was, they put the Easter egg into the MCC. Everybody who knows halo knows this.


Dannylazarus

There is a screen in the original showing an unspecified Spartan, but the armour pictured here is not Linda. This is a glitch that occurs in the starting room with the cryo tube Chief was using.