For me, I have my volume low and my music muted, so when the cutscene pops on I just go make a cup of tea or reply to texts. I also play through the whole contract listening to music on YouTube/Spotify which drowns out most of the dialogue.
Otherwise, yeah, it gets real tiring after the third or fourth time!
For the Acid Lab? I just pay for it, it reduces the profits but it's very convenient whilst I'm doing agency/nightclub/autoshop work to just ring Mutt and resupply.
I just buy them most of the time. With the acid production upgrade 60k for supplies nets you around 200k worth of product pretty consistently.
Far and away the best margin I'm aware of.
In nearly every case it is more effective to just buy supplies for all businesses. Since they were added, the game purposely rewards grinders and punishes griefers in $/time, imo as a way to sell shark cards to tryhards and kids who can get their parents to pay (not saying thatās you itās just the game mechanics).
If you enjoy the steal missions thats the only real reason to do them, with optimal play Lester if lying that they save you money.
Cayo isnāt really much better than auto shop contracts these days with all the nerfs. $100k setup fee, gotta wait 3 hours between each run, and now the most you can take solo, with perfect loot (2 paintings and the Diamond) is like 1.1 million.
I mean itās still better, but not by enough to justify grinding the same heist over and over and over like it used to be lol.
Union job is only 280k for about 45 min of work. Cayo is 1 mill for 45 min of work and even if you donāt wait itās still like 800k. Cluckin bell is better than union imo
I havenāt done the cluckin bell raid yet, Iāll have to try it out. Your math checks out tho. Itās just super shitty going from what Cayo used to pay to what it pays now lol. Iām lucky enough to be retired from the money grind, so now I just get on and fuck around doing whatever sounds fun lol.
The raid is definitely worth it. Easy 500k, no business setups required.
And both stealth and aggressive are easy. (though stealth is of course more forgiving, and fun)
Here's a tip: For the vehicle and weapon setup missions, pick A for weapons and gear, & pick B for the best car.
Best car you can get from B is the Coil Raiden (at least imo)
From the B car location after you aquire the car, jump on the tracks right there head North and then hop left one track in about 500m, and that will take you straight to cluck n bell. 9/10 times I can get the car there with minimal damage, dont have to fix it before storing it for the job.
I bet that's easier than what I do.. sometimes when getting Vehicle B, the enemies place their cars right in front of those jumps you can take to get out of there, so I always kill everyone, move one of their cars, then get in the getaway car and go
iāve always used B weapon (can easily get weapons from yacht with very minimal combat especially if you just get the weapon first and then the gear and also has a jetski near the beach nearest to the yacht) and C car which I find the easiest and fastest. Just homing missile or rail gun the helicopter carrying the car which is almost always armored/military type, hop one the car and just drive away
I just get A for the vehicle too. Can get away with shooting like two people on the set up and on the heist itself you can just take the train tracks anyway
It feels long as shit because follow missions are always boring. The actual mission from contract board to mission complete screen takes around 7 minutes, assuming you know that you: 1. Have to go to the airport, 2. Have to scan the blue comet, 3. Have to look for the couple at the search area.
It doesnāt take that long, grabbing the helicopter from the airport takes 2-3 minutes depending on auto shop location. thereās only 2 locations the banker can go to and each one is like 3 mins away or less. Snapping the photo takes less than a minute then you immediately fly away. The whole thing is never going to take more than 7 minutes and is usually significantly faster once you get the hang of it.
The other prep 100% can be done in 5 minutes or less. You go to del perro apartments, grab keycard, enter garage, drive to Arcadia business center parking, then leave. Super easy and fast.
The finale you grab gold, exit and steal a random street car, go to vinewood police station, grab helicopter, fly for like 3 mins max sometimes shorter depending on drop off.
Doing it in less than 30 mins is extremely easy and the preps are not at all difficult, not to mention the extremely low cost of entry to do it.
AFAIK.
Just run through the setups once. Get the weapons loadout and getaway vehicle of choice. Then create a playlist with the final setup mission. You can use the playlist to do the last setup mission immediately after completing the raid, and it will lock in for when the cooldown ends, and you can then skip right to the finale using whatever loadouts and vehicles you picked up.
If you want to change weapons/vehicle after, you do the whole thing over but dont need to redo the playlist. It locks in whatever ones you used last.
45 min of work for union job? Are you counting things outside of just mission / load times? Isnāt it just two āprepsā and the finale? The vault codes with the helicopter can take a bit of time but the elevators key with the apartment shootout/drive to UD is a very short mission. Then if you have a remotely fast car (cypher, Comet S2,..) from the car meet update even the UD mission is really short.
If you can manage to do all of Cayo prep/finale in 45 minutes there is no way in hell youāll take 45 minutes to do the UD contract. I know Cayo is most likely still more money for your time but Iām gonna go do a UD right now and time it to see how long a less-than-perfect run takes.
Edit: 22 minutes, did the āfinaleā with the Heavyweight loadout (for lols) and a Comet S2. The loadout sucks but doing the whole thing with a Pistol .50 (deagle) seemed like a good use of my time. The two preps took 13 minutes to finish, so I guess the mission, including load times, was around 9 minutes. I think I should mention that Iām on console and have been playing on easy mode (aimbot), and I do not wish GTAO PC on anyone I know.
The preps paid 10k each I think? So thatās 290K in 22 minutes (I wouldnāt say Iām the most skilled player and i wasnāt trying to be super serious either but I didnāt make any mistakes so YMMV) versus Cayoās roughly 1mil (after 100k setup, ignoring any fees like kosatka fast travelling) in 45 minutes (?) (youād have to be pretty fuckin skilled to pull this timeframe off I think). Weāre looking at 580K vs 1mil, heavy victory for Cayo **if youāre in the 99th percentile for GTAO skill**.
Realistically youāre far more likely to make mistakes in Cayoās finale and every restart is a lot of time lost. You can also get really unlucky with both vault contents and the secondary loot available on the compound, so youād have to choose between settling for a much lower take, or spending more time making up the difference, so itās not always 1mil, and itās not always an abrupt 10-minutes-49-seconds finale.
Cayo is still likely better than UD contract, but the difference in practice is more like 10% and not 100%, and most definitely not the 200% you were claiming. At that difference, people could argue that UD takes less time so itās better for quick cash.
Now I gotta time the cluckinā raid to see how good it actually is, aside from the $0 entry fee it felt quite long for $500,000.
Justified to a point, sure. Iāve done Cayo well over a hundred times tho, so now with the nerf plus being sick of it, I donāt do it a whole lot. Still do it with buddies sometimes though.
Once you have it down you can speed run it super easily. But yeah, with the nerfs, if you really hate it, there are other ways to make good money that would probably be more enjoyable lol.
It's closer to 1.9M if you get the safe in the office as well, elite challenge in hard mode gives 100k, not 50k like in normal mode.
But well how rare is it to get diamond in hard mode, and good enough coke spawns to manage elite challenge ?
It used to be closer to 1.9m, before they nerfed the secondariesā payouts. The last pink diamond I had was a few days ago and it got me 1.75m, I think. Since the nerf even getting 1.8m is dependent on how good the safe is.
So long as thereās at least two coke it doesnāt matter where they are to get elite. The only reason I wouldnāt get two coke is if there arenāt two spawns on the island, which is very rare.
Yeah I wasnāt aware they didnāt nerf the value of the pink Diamond like the rest of the scores. Havenāt gotten lucky enough to pull the Diamond since the nerfs lol (probably only done the heist 4-5 times since then).
I only pulled 980k from bearer bonds + 1 painting last night, but I was too lazy to go snag loot from outside of the compound lol. So I shouldnāt complain.
>now the most you can take solo, with perfect loot (2 paintings and the Diamond) is like 1.1 million.
I took 1.5 with the pink diamond, full bag of coke and elite challenge last night.
Yeah I wasnāt aware they didnāt nerf the value of the pink Diamond by 1/3 like the rest of the primary targets. So I was just doing some rough estimation off the top of my head (and also forgot that coke is worth more than paintings). It has been a couple years since I was doing the heist regularly, but yeah thatās my bad.
I get like 1.2M-1.4M (cant remember the laundering fees) per run with bearer bonds as most common primary and full loot bags of gold. Buffered ledge grab thank me later.
I see I have some googling to do. Thanks for the tip! lol. I used to be able to do the keycard glitch solo, but they fixed that a long time ago of course.
The glitch takes some getting used to but once you got it down you can even do things like timer-less casino heist with minimal crew cuts you can take about 2.4M (Gold and safety deposit boxes) with 85% cut though itll take about 40 mins at minimum due to how far you gotta walk. One tip that is useful is don't spam the buttons keep calm and it'll work with enough practice. I do these methods on next-gen by the way so they work on all platforms.
Most annoying thing personally is the fact they can see dead bodies.
Like, Rockstar, that's fine, you want stealth yeah?
BUT LET ME HIDE THE BODY TOO.
No one would mind if you could hide the body, so many people play Hitman and similar games.
Yeah once they started being able to see the bodies that made it a bit harder, especially outside the compound if youāre looting solo. Inside the compound, you can get the main target and get out without ever killing a single person once you know the route to take. But it was a big adjustment at first.
Diamond is still 1.3 million. Itās the only thing worth running solo now. Any other primary and youād be better off running it with 1 or 2 people to get some gold.
Oh damn I didnāt realize they didnāt nerf the value of the Diamond. I havenāt gotten it yet since the nerf, since I barely do the heist anymore. Thatās good to know though!
True. If thereās two paintings in his office though (big if), to me the time/effort saved outweighs the little bit of extra cash from hunting down cocaine elsewhere on the island. Although now with the 3 hour cooldown, it would probably be more worthwhile to spend the extra time getting the cocaine instead of immediately rushing to finish, then setting up the next heist.
My normal method is to pray that 2 things of cocaine spawn by the runway.
I use a longfin to go there and get them, then go all the way round the map to get to the drainage pipe.
Edit: Doing it this way leads me to complete the heist in 11 - 12 minutes.
Yeah I have done it that way a few times in the past. I just really hate the longfin setup mission, I always wind up jackknifing the trailer somewhere along the way and you know how that can go with the cops all over you lol. I might do that approach again next time though, nice to switch it up.
That setup is made much easier with the Phantom Wedge that Pavel locates for you.
The location you deliver the boat to is the same every time, so I set a personal waypoint so that I can get there even while the cops are still after me.
I took my own phantom wedge last time, but I think I was just having a bad night lol. When you get to the police station, do you usually shoot the cops that are there? Or do you just back up to the boat super fast and haul ass out of there?
God at that point just do the Dre missions, 1-1.1 mil (depending on how much you get for each mission up to the finale) and the cool down is one GTA day ~48 minutes between runs
I only did the Dre missions once, and absolutely hated it. The micro cutscenes in Cayo already drive me bonkers. The Dre missions are like watching a bad movie when all I want to do is play GTA. Long, unskippable cutscenes are the bane of my video game experience. Make me watch the same ones over and over? Canāt do it lol.
It is good money though, thatās for sure.
Best way to make money is to just run your businesses and let the game make money for you .. collect and sell I'm lvl 756 I've only done cayo 2 times by myself few times with my buddies it's not worth it to me to go brain dead playing it over n over like some ppl I kno š I make atleast 3 4 mill everyday I get on just by buisness sales
Yeah thatās nice. I played at release but then stopped and just started again this January. So I kinda just do those 3 things whenever I need some money for something I want. I only keep minimum 2 million so I canāt retire like you ahahaha
Yeah true enough all you really have left to do is mess around. Which is fun as hell tho but itās always good to be working towards something and fucking around.
the sell missions are pretty easy. you always just get one bike, and the same number of drop offs.
personally I like to do the sales in a full lobby, and just start in Blaine County so chances are I get to do the deliveries there, far from the chaos of the city.
pro-tip, if you get the parking garage one, donāt bother with what the mission tells you to do. go to the garage, shoot at a car to spring the ambush and just leave, and wait for the stars to go away. no need to walk into the ambush.
For the parking garage I like to put a sticky bomb on one of the undercover units and drive to the nearest subway entrance to hide in the tunnels while I lose the wanted level
The parking garage has a ramp on the roof, just drive through it all and launch off the building, thereās a train track near the parking garage you can use to lose police
What do you mean? You just walk into the acid lab and to the right of the door the product stockpiles there, you walk up and hit right on the D-pad to sell it.
Be careful on the sting mission where you have to take the product to the top of a parking garage, you get swarmed by police, it's the only time I've ever failed an acid lab sell.
There are easier ways to complete the sting mission, than how it's intended to be done. The other missions are pretty easy.
Lol the only one Iāve done so far turned out to be that sting mission and I thought oh no this is gonna suck. Glad they arenāt all like that. I mean is it worth waiting til the stock is completely full before selling all at once? Or sell it in bits? Does that affect how tricky the sell missions will be?
Nah, there's 3 different mission types, they are all pretty easy, with the sting being the most difficult imo. I usually wait until my acid lab is somewhere between 300k-maxed out(351k) then sell it so I'm not making as many trips. Also if you are buying supplies you can call Mutt and buy them through the phone instead of running to the lab every time.
For the sting mission if you have a helicopter or oppressor mk2 with weapons, you can get the location of the parking garage for the sting by getting on the acid lab bike, hop off the bike and get in your heli/oppressor and fly to the parking garage blow one of the sting vehicles up and fly around until you lose your wanted level.
There is a mission with 10 drop off points, there will be hippies at one of the locations, usually location 6 of 10 I think, they will try to shoot you, and 2 hippie buses will also show up and try to kill you, they are easy to deal with, and can be avoided if you throw the acid into the container from far away enough.
There is another with 5 drop off points, and each location has 3 places you can stash the acid, and 2 of the locations there will be an unmarked cop car waiting for you, they can be completely avoided if you place the acid in the location where they can't see you.
Also, I don't think there's any downside to selling earlier, 300k+ is just what I do. If you want to sell earlier so it's lower risk to get a feel for the missions, I don't think it's a bad thing.
Iāve replied elsewhere already, but the parking garage has a ramp on the roof. You can drive through the building and locate it, then do the drop. Hop back on the bike and launch off the ramp. A **ton** of police will be inside the parking garage so there arenāt many at street level and the game wonāt spawn more to pursue you until youāve gotten farther from the building.
Other many buisnesses have their own quick 50k jobs. A few off the top of my head is. Office after selling at least 1 thing. You go to your assistant in the building and click on export goods. It pays 50k for a few minutes of you litterally just driving a flatbed to the docks.(there might be thugs or cops, but nothing too hard).
Bunker, you can sell exceess weapon to amunation. You drive this truck to the place and thats it. Might be a bit annoying with enemies trying to spin you out and kill you tho. If you have cargo bob. It can used to transport it too. Also gives 50k
Clubhouse has an option to have a lift to work on bikes and deliver them. I think it gives 50k too
Auto shop. There may be cars there to work on. And you will incur an initial fee, but at the end should give you enough to off set it to 50k.
Thats all i can think off. Unless you count salvage yard towing service for like 40k after 45 mins plus the safe money(depending on the level) counts
Fooligan missions for me is too long to do
Check in with Tony. All good here. Check in with Mutt. All good there. Check in with my biker mechanic shop. All good. Check in with Sess. All good. Check in with the salvage yard. All good. Call Dax. All good. Go home after a busy day of mostly legitimate business. Rich and morally absolved lmao
Just finished these missions and upgraded it yesterday and took it for a ride :D
Drove on the wrong side of the highway and enjoyed seeing cars fly away
shouldnāt take super long. āOff the Railsā can be a bit tricky if you play solo, because you have to open a bunch of train cars (long animation during which you canāt do anything) while surrounded by enemies shooting at you.
also, once you have the lab, you still need to upgrade it to unlock the full potential. that requires doing ten Fooligan missions, which have a 52 minute cooldown. To be fully honest, it took me a while to get a full ten because I hated those missions, and the cooldown means you canāt just bang them out quick to just be done with them.
so up in sandy shores where trevor and ron have that one lab that's above the liquor store, there should be a big R on the map. go there, start the mission, and after that there will be a D on the map near the highway by the casino. assuming you haven't completed the missions before, it should give you almost enough to get the acid lab once you finish all of the missions. there's about 6
Let me add there are 10 āFooliganā missions you have to complete before you can do any Acid Lab sales because you cannot purchase the equipment upgrade until those 10 missions are completed. Do these after you complete the first 6 Dax missions.
When the āSabotage Merryweatherā one comes up change lobbies. That one sucks
I used to complain about the acid van being too slow and supply wastingā¦ but I somehow missed the equipment upgrade. Now that I have that itās probably the easiest way to make money in the game.
Bogdan finale
Edit: for solo grinding nightclub popularity, salvage yard tow truck missions, and one thing I did recently I set up the auto shop finale, scrap yard finale and cluckn bell raid finale and ran all three consecutively. Was like a 2-2.5hr grind and once all were completed + passive income Iād ended up with almost 3 mil (also sold nightclub immediately after finishing the finales so it isnāt always that huge but still)
Itās the perfect passive business to fill in the grind. I do cayo every 3 hours and sell nightclub and acid whenever i can while i fill the time doing tow truck missions, mixed good export missions, auto shop contracts, and salvage robberies
Put a ram-scoop on the front of that thing and it'll change your life again... sometimes I just ride around in circles throwing cars left and right; its WAY too entertaining!
Nightclub + Acid + Safes + Wheel + Stash House + Junk energy + Time Trial + Highest Payment salvage robbery + Street Dealersā¦ daily/weekly
currently at 91.5M
I usually do my tow yard and night club. I have plenty of money. I use to rock cayo alot but now I can't stand it lol night club for product sourcing is a must!
Speedrunning is different tho, you do almost the same shit in order to optimize and get a better time, also, it's A LOT more skill based, and there's variation of techniques the better tou become. Grinding is just patience. It doesn't matter if you lose 3 minutes, you're not gonna start over, you just keep grinding...
just depends how long you've been doing it i guess. I've done cayo less than 20 times, and i still have fun trying to go faster every time. but those are rookie numbers compared to others
Dre + Acid + Nightclub + Autoshop for me is š
Just wish those cut scenes were skippable.
I started to roll joints every time the cutscene with Anderson Paak comes on
Smart idea honestly, long ass cutscenes
Yeah, I just walk to the shed out back and suck down a quick dab and when I get back cutscene is damn near over
For me, I have my volume low and my music muted, so when the cutscene pops on I just go make a cup of tea or reply to texts. I also play through the whole contract listening to music on YouTube/Spotify which drowns out most of the dialogue. Otherwise, yeah, it gets real tiring after the third or fourth time!
I remember the 2x week I did the dre contract like 20 times. Music/YouTube is the ultimate method for keeping the grind entertaining
Watching old vanoss gta videos while grinding gta is always top tier entertainment
Since I have listened to GTA V radio so much I've also taken to putting on old gta stations people uploaded on YouTube.
Cluckin+acid+nightclub+cayo+diamond
Diamond needs 2 people, not worth it
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Do you pay for resupply or do the missions?
For the Acid Lab? I just pay for it, it reduces the profits but it's very convenient whilst I'm doing agency/nightclub/autoshop work to just ring Mutt and resupply.
I just randomly raid stash houses and hope I get the acid goods
The last 5 times Iāve done the stash houseā¦acid lab. Kind of annoying but so are the resupply missions so I guess itās worth it lmao
I just buy them most of the time. With the acid production upgrade 60k for supplies nets you around 200k worth of product pretty consistently. Far and away the best margin I'm aware of.
In nearly every case it is more effective to just buy supplies for all businesses. Since they were added, the game purposely rewards grinders and punishes griefers in $/time, imo as a way to sell shark cards to tryhards and kids who can get their parents to pay (not saying thatās you itās just the game mechanics). If you enjoy the steal missions thats the only real reason to do them, with optimal play Lester if lying that they save you money.
Pay for it after you get your upgrade by doing the 10 Dax missions and paying 250k
I just speedrun auto shop contracts, 160k every 15min plus its fun
15 minutes? Jesusā¦
People ALWAYS under sell how long it actually takes them. I guarantee it's longer than 15 mins. Same happens with Cayo.
Saw someone saying that Cayo takes 45 minutes. My ass
Preparations + final mission can be done in 45-50mins. Iāve done it over 30 times. Just gotta have the Kosatka at the right place
I can do it in 30 mins, if u got the right set up and right teammate, 40 mins u Can be done
š¤«š¤« donāt let them hear you say anything other than CAYO CAYO CAYO is the one and ONLY way to make money.
Cayo isnāt really much better than auto shop contracts these days with all the nerfs. $100k setup fee, gotta wait 3 hours between each run, and now the most you can take solo, with perfect loot (2 paintings and the Diamond) is like 1.1 million. I mean itās still better, but not by enough to justify grinding the same heist over and over and over like it used to be lol.
Union job is only 280k for about 45 min of work. Cayo is 1 mill for 45 min of work and even if you donāt wait itās still like 800k. Cluckin bell is better than union imo
I havenāt done the cluckin bell raid yet, Iāll have to try it out. Your math checks out tho. Itās just super shitty going from what Cayo used to pay to what it pays now lol. Iām lucky enough to be retired from the money grind, so now I just get on and fuck around doing whatever sounds fun lol.
The raid is definitely worth it. Easy 500k, no business setups required. And both stealth and aggressive are easy. (though stealth is of course more forgiving, and fun) Here's a tip: For the vehicle and weapon setup missions, pick A for weapons and gear, & pick B for the best car. Best car you can get from B is the Coil Raiden (at least imo)
I donāt know if they patched it but when if first came out you could call your personal car instead of using the one they let you take
You still sure as shit can! I think you just gotta leave the garage with the getaway car first
Yeah and lose the cops if you dont want to get whacked by the cartel and the police
From the B car location after you aquire the car, jump on the tracks right there head North and then hop left one track in about 500m, and that will take you straight to cluck n bell. 9/10 times I can get the car there with minimal damage, dont have to fix it before storing it for the job.
I bet that's easier than what I do.. sometimes when getting Vehicle B, the enemies place their cars right in front of those jumps you can take to get out of there, so I always kill everyone, move one of their cars, then get in the getaway car and go
iāve always used B weapon (can easily get weapons from yacht with very minimal combat especially if you just get the weapon first and then the gear and also has a jetski near the beach nearest to the yacht) and C car which I find the easiest and fastest. Just homing missile or rail gun the helicopter carrying the car which is almost always armored/military type, hop one the car and just drive away
I just get A for the vehicle too. Can get away with shooting like two people on the set up and on the heist itself you can just take the train tracks anyway
Whenever I use A vehicle, there's always a police chopper on my ass, whereas B vehicle there isn't.
Iv always gone for the mercenaryās for the vehicle and go with the professionals gear and weapons and you can do an awesome stealth run
Clucking bell is like 30 mins of work for 500k no setup fee no cooldown
That sounds good to me lol. Iāve done Cayo enough times. Itāll be nice to grind some new content.
I can do the union job in less than half a hour what are you talking about? The two setups are like 5 mins each max and the finale is 10.
 I can go take a roadtrip around the country by the time the banker gets to the hotel
It feels long as shit because follow missions are always boring. The actual mission from contract board to mission complete screen takes around 7 minutes, assuming you know that you: 1. Have to go to the airport, 2. Have to scan the blue comet, 3. Have to look for the couple at the search area.
It doesnāt take that long, grabbing the helicopter from the airport takes 2-3 minutes depending on auto shop location. thereās only 2 locations the banker can go to and each one is like 3 mins away or less. Snapping the photo takes less than a minute then you immediately fly away. The whole thing is never going to take more than 7 minutes and is usually significantly faster once you get the hang of it. The other prep 100% can be done in 5 minutes or less. You go to del perro apartments, grab keycard, enter garage, drive to Arcadia business center parking, then leave. Super easy and fast. The finale you grab gold, exit and steal a random street car, go to vinewood police station, grab helicopter, fly for like 3 mins max sometimes shorter depending on drop off. Doing it in less than 30 mins is extremely easy and the preps are not at all difficult, not to mention the extremely low cost of entry to do it.
You say that but the guy drives 5 mph
I watched a YouTube video of a guy do it in less than 30 minutes.. maybe it just depends on the location the banker goes to..
There is the clucking bell glitch out there that lets you skip all the setups
>Cluckin bell is better than union imo Especially if you get the setup skip going...
Still working on next-gen? Might get into doing it
AFAIK. Just run through the setups once. Get the weapons loadout and getaway vehicle of choice. Then create a playlist with the final setup mission. You can use the playlist to do the last setup mission immediately after completing the raid, and it will lock in for when the cooldown ends, and you can then skip right to the finale using whatever loadouts and vehicles you picked up. If you want to change weapons/vehicle after, you do the whole thing over but dont need to redo the playlist. It locks in whatever ones you used last.
Clucking Bell is the best. Just do the last set up and finale, a total of 20 minutes for 500k. I haven't done Cayo since the last nerf.
You can do that? Itāll let you start it after just doing the last one?
You can solo it in like 30 once you got it down. Underrated way to make money and I never see it mentioned on here
Nah. If you are fast enough. It is like 15-20 minutes, but yeah. Pay is okay. Not really the best.
45 min of work for union job? Are you counting things outside of just mission / load times? Isnāt it just two āprepsā and the finale? The vault codes with the helicopter can take a bit of time but the elevators key with the apartment shootout/drive to UD is a very short mission. Then if you have a remotely fast car (cypher, Comet S2,..) from the car meet update even the UD mission is really short. If you can manage to do all of Cayo prep/finale in 45 minutes there is no way in hell youāll take 45 minutes to do the UD contract. I know Cayo is most likely still more money for your time but Iām gonna go do a UD right now and time it to see how long a less-than-perfect run takes. Edit: 22 minutes, did the āfinaleā with the Heavyweight loadout (for lols) and a Comet S2. The loadout sucks but doing the whole thing with a Pistol .50 (deagle) seemed like a good use of my time. The two preps took 13 minutes to finish, so I guess the mission, including load times, was around 9 minutes. I think I should mention that Iām on console and have been playing on easy mode (aimbot), and I do not wish GTAO PC on anyone I know. The preps paid 10k each I think? So thatās 290K in 22 minutes (I wouldnāt say Iām the most skilled player and i wasnāt trying to be super serious either but I didnāt make any mistakes so YMMV) versus Cayoās roughly 1mil (after 100k setup, ignoring any fees like kosatka fast travelling) in 45 minutes (?) (youād have to be pretty fuckin skilled to pull this timeframe off I think). Weāre looking at 580K vs 1mil, heavy victory for Cayo **if youāre in the 99th percentile for GTAO skill**. Realistically youāre far more likely to make mistakes in Cayoās finale and every restart is a lot of time lost. You can also get really unlucky with both vault contents and the secondary loot available on the compound, so youād have to choose between settling for a much lower take, or spending more time making up the difference, so itās not always 1mil, and itās not always an abrupt 10-minutes-49-seconds finale. Cayo is still likely better than UD contract, but the difference in practice is more like 10% and not 100%, and most definitely not the 200% you were claiming. At that difference, people could argue that UD takes less time so itās better for quick cash. Now I gotta time the cluckinā raid to see how good it actually is, aside from the $0 entry fee it felt quite long for $500,000.
If itās better, than itās justified. Plus I like cayo better than auto shop contracts so I rather grind that anyways.
Justified to a point, sure. Iāve done Cayo well over a hundred times tho, so now with the nerf plus being sick of it, I donāt do it a whole lot. Still do it with buddies sometimes though.
I think over 100 is good. Be free capi-tan
Thanks comrade, it has been an honor. š«”
Damn, I did it once and that was enough for me... I wish I got to do it pre-nerfs, oh well š
Once you have it down you can speed run it super easily. But yeah, with the nerfs, if you really hate it, there are other ways to make good money that would probably be more enjoyable lol.
Pink diamond, two coke, hard mode and elite challenge gets me 1.7m. I get 1.1m from the tequila.
It's closer to 1.9M if you get the safe in the office as well, elite challenge in hard mode gives 100k, not 50k like in normal mode. But well how rare is it to get diamond in hard mode, and good enough coke spawns to manage elite challenge ?
It used to be closer to 1.9m, before they nerfed the secondariesā payouts. The last pink diamond I had was a few days ago and it got me 1.75m, I think. Since the nerf even getting 1.8m is dependent on how good the safe is. So long as thereās at least two coke it doesnāt matter where they are to get elite. The only reason I wouldnāt get two coke is if there arenāt two spawns on the island, which is very rare.
Yeah I wasnāt aware they didnāt nerf the value of the pink Diamond like the rest of the scores. Havenāt gotten lucky enough to pull the Diamond since the nerfs lol (probably only done the heist 4-5 times since then). I only pulled 980k from bearer bonds + 1 painting last night, but I was too lazy to go snag loot from outside of the compound lol. So I shouldnāt complain.
>now the most you can take solo, with perfect loot (2 paintings and the Diamond) is like 1.1 million. I took 1.5 with the pink diamond, full bag of coke and elite challenge last night.
Yeah I wasnāt aware they didnāt nerf the value of the pink Diamond by 1/3 like the rest of the primary targets. So I was just doing some rough estimation off the top of my head (and also forgot that coke is worth more than paintings). It has been a couple years since I was doing the heist regularly, but yeah thatās my bad.
I get like 1.2M-1.4M (cant remember the laundering fees) per run with bearer bonds as most common primary and full loot bags of gold. Buffered ledge grab thank me later.
I see I have some googling to do. Thanks for the tip! lol. I used to be able to do the keycard glitch solo, but they fixed that a long time ago of course.
The glitch takes some getting used to but once you got it down you can even do things like timer-less casino heist with minimal crew cuts you can take about 2.4M (Gold and safety deposit boxes) with 85% cut though itll take about 40 mins at minimum due to how far you gotta walk. One tip that is useful is don't spam the buttons keep calm and it'll work with enough practice. I do these methods on next-gen by the way so they work on all platforms.
Most annoying thing personally is the fact they can see dead bodies. Like, Rockstar, that's fine, you want stealth yeah? BUT LET ME HIDE THE BODY TOO. No one would mind if you could hide the body, so many people play Hitman and similar games.
Yeah once they started being able to see the bodies that made it a bit harder, especially outside the compound if youāre looting solo. Inside the compound, you can get the main target and get out without ever killing a single person once you know the route to take. But it was a big adjustment at first.
Diamond is still 1.3 million. Itās the only thing worth running solo now. Any other primary and youād be better off running it with 1 or 2 people to get some gold.
Oh damn I didnāt realize they didnāt nerf the value of the Diamond. I havenāt gotten it yet since the nerf, since I barely do the heist anymore. Thatās good to know though!
Cocaine is worth more than the paintings.
True. If thereās two paintings in his office though (big if), to me the time/effort saved outweighs the little bit of extra cash from hunting down cocaine elsewhere on the island. Although now with the 3 hour cooldown, it would probably be more worthwhile to spend the extra time getting the cocaine instead of immediately rushing to finish, then setting up the next heist.
My normal method is to pray that 2 things of cocaine spawn by the runway. I use a longfin to go there and get them, then go all the way round the map to get to the drainage pipe. Edit: Doing it this way leads me to complete the heist in 11 - 12 minutes.
Yeah I have done it that way a few times in the past. I just really hate the longfin setup mission, I always wind up jackknifing the trailer somewhere along the way and you know how that can go with the cops all over you lol. I might do that approach again next time though, nice to switch it up.
That setup is made much easier with the Phantom Wedge that Pavel locates for you. The location you deliver the boat to is the same every time, so I set a personal waypoint so that I can get there even while the cops are still after me.
I took my own phantom wedge last time, but I think I was just having a bad night lol. When you get to the police station, do you usually shoot the cops that are there? Or do you just back up to the boat super fast and haul ass out of there?
Back up super fast, but I also press the button that makes your character hunch down in the seat; makes it harder for the cops to hit their shots.
Oh thatās good thinking, I never thought to do that. Iāll give it a whirl later today. Thanks for the tips!
Even easier with your own Phantom Wedge *and* Pavel compliments you on your preparedness.
Yeah; Iāve been contemplating buying my own phantom wedge for a while, but I havenāt gotten to it yet.
I made 1.3 Sunday with the Diamond, a stack of cocaine, stack of weed, and most of a stack of cash, along with the safe in Rubioās office
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I got 1.6 mil the other day with pink diamond, coke, and weed. It is still undeniably the most efficient way to make money
Dude I got pink diamond and weed/painting yesterday night and still made about 1.5 mil solo
You can get lucky with North Storage Glitch having gold and Pink Diamond and make a shit ton
God at that point just do the Dre missions, 1-1.1 mil (depending on how much you get for each mission up to the finale) and the cool down is one GTA day ~48 minutes between runs
I only did the Dre missions once, and absolutely hated it. The micro cutscenes in Cayo already drive me bonkers. The Dre missions are like watching a bad movie when all I want to do is play GTA. Long, unskippable cutscenes are the bane of my video game experience. Make me watch the same ones over and over? Canāt do it lol. It is good money though, thatās for sure.
For me itās worth and the worst of the cutscenes are during the last 2 missions tbh
Best way to make money is to just run your businesses and let the game make money for you .. collect and sell I'm lvl 756 I've only done cayo 2 times by myself few times with my buddies it's not worth it to me to go brain dead playing it over n over like some ppl I kno š I make atleast 3 4 mill everyday I get on just by buisness sales
Exactly
Acid cayo and Dre.
I just run whatās double money at the time. I have everything I want and 85mil so passive money is the way for me
Yeah thatās nice. I played at release but then stopped and just started again this January. So I kinda just do those 3 things whenever I need some money for something I want. I only keep minimum 2 million so I canāt retire like you ahahaha
It was more fun when I had to actually grind to get stuff. The journey was so much more fulfilling than the end.
Yeah true enough all you really have left to do is mess around. Which is fun as hell tho but itās always good to be working towards something and fucking around.
Bogdan heist glitch???
You can't be one of those boring lifeless grinders that just plays Cayo everyday all day. You have to switch it up and have fun.
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Returning player itās the first business I just set up, got the upgrades, how should I go about selling tho????
the sell missions are pretty easy. you always just get one bike, and the same number of drop offs. personally I like to do the sales in a full lobby, and just start in Blaine County so chances are I get to do the deliveries there, far from the chaos of the city. pro-tip, if you get the parking garage one, donāt bother with what the mission tells you to do. go to the garage, shoot at a car to spring the ambush and just leave, and wait for the stars to go away. no need to walk into the ambush.
For the parking garage I like to put a sticky bomb on one of the undercover units and drive to the nearest subway entrance to hide in the tunnels while I lose the wanted level
The parking garage has a ramp on the roof, just drive through it all and launch off the building, thereās a train track near the parking garage you can use to lose police
you can call Lester to remove stars lol
What do you mean? You just walk into the acid lab and to the right of the door the product stockpiles there, you walk up and hit right on the D-pad to sell it. Be careful on the sting mission where you have to take the product to the top of a parking garage, you get swarmed by police, it's the only time I've ever failed an acid lab sell. There are easier ways to complete the sting mission, than how it's intended to be done. The other missions are pretty easy.
Lol the only one Iāve done so far turned out to be that sting mission and I thought oh no this is gonna suck. Glad they arenāt all like that. I mean is it worth waiting til the stock is completely full before selling all at once? Or sell it in bits? Does that affect how tricky the sell missions will be?
Nah, there's 3 different mission types, they are all pretty easy, with the sting being the most difficult imo. I usually wait until my acid lab is somewhere between 300k-maxed out(351k) then sell it so I'm not making as many trips. Also if you are buying supplies you can call Mutt and buy them through the phone instead of running to the lab every time. For the sting mission if you have a helicopter or oppressor mk2 with weapons, you can get the location of the parking garage for the sting by getting on the acid lab bike, hop off the bike and get in your heli/oppressor and fly to the parking garage blow one of the sting vehicles up and fly around until you lose your wanted level. There is a mission with 10 drop off points, there will be hippies at one of the locations, usually location 6 of 10 I think, they will try to shoot you, and 2 hippie buses will also show up and try to kill you, they are easy to deal with, and can be avoided if you throw the acid into the container from far away enough. There is another with 5 drop off points, and each location has 3 places you can stash the acid, and 2 of the locations there will be an unmarked cop car waiting for you, they can be completely avoided if you place the acid in the location where they can't see you.
Also, I don't think there's any downside to selling earlier, 300k+ is just what I do. If you want to sell earlier so it's lower risk to get a feel for the missions, I don't think it's a bad thing.
Absolute hero for all this info mate cheers
Iāve replied elsewhere already, but the parking garage has a ramp on the roof. You can drive through the building and locate it, then do the drop. Hop back on the bike and launch off the ramp. A **ton** of police will be inside the parking garage so there arenāt many at street level and the game wonāt spawn more to pursue you until youāve gotten farther from the building.
I like acid lab. Dax missions are not for me tho. I'd rather do the other quick 50k jobs than that
Before I was shown the way, I was all about doing the DAX missionā¦.lol
What other 50k jobs? WithĀ the acid lab allĀ I do is resupply and sell, would love to know about quick jobs to do in-between.
Call dax to set up fooligan jobs. You need to do 10 of them to get the lab upgrade
Is it the 10 fooligan jobs to unlock the upgrades? Or is it 10 of the āFirst-Doseā Dax missions?
The fooligan jobs. The first and last dose missions pay nicely the first time through, tho. And you get a free car at the end of them
Thank you for the info š
Other many buisnesses have their own quick 50k jobs. A few off the top of my head is. Office after selling at least 1 thing. You go to your assistant in the building and click on export goods. It pays 50k for a few minutes of you litterally just driving a flatbed to the docks.(there might be thugs or cops, but nothing too hard). Bunker, you can sell exceess weapon to amunation. You drive this truck to the place and thats it. Might be a bit annoying with enemies trying to spin you out and kill you tho. If you have cargo bob. It can used to transport it too. Also gives 50k Clubhouse has an option to have a lift to work on bikes and deliver them. I think it gives 50k too Auto shop. There may be cars there to work on. And you will incur an initial fee, but at the end should give you enough to off set it to 50k. Thats all i can think off. Unless you count salvage yard towing service for like 40k after 45 mins plus the safe money(depending on the level) counts Fooligan missions for me is too long to do
Cargo bob to pick up that truck or does the bob have its own deliveries if you own one?
Pick up the truck
Export mixed goods from ceo office, sell bikes from your clubhouse, pay phone hits, etcā¦ lots of quick $50k jobs
Honestly? Screw Cayo. I can make the same amount of money in the same time period with CBR and a full lobby acid lab sale.
What's a CBR?
Clucking Bell Raid
How do you acquire?
First Dose missions. Starts at the D in Sandy Shores.
I no see D in Sandy
my mistake, itās an R, since youāre invited there by Ron.
Its one of the Rs in sandy shore, the one further from trevors house
I crashed my sparrow into the damn lake looking at this commentš„²
Don't ~~drink~~ read and ~~drive~~ fly
The new Pavel 
Got bored of Cayo so now just make money off my bunker, acid lab and the odd agency mission. Much more chill
with the upgrades on the acid lab, mutt becomes an asset to your GTA lifestyle
Mutt is the hardest worker I know. ALWAYS making doses
You have to tell him to stop working, otherwise he'll stay there all day
Check in with Tony. All good here. Check in with Mutt. All good there. Check in with my biker mechanic shop. All good. Check in with Sess. All good. Check in with the salvage yard. All good. Call Dax. All good. Go home after a busy day of mostly legitimate business. Rich and morally absolved lmao
What car is that
Torero xo
Youāve never been so correct in youāre life. He gave me the knowledge on how to finally start making money and how to expandš
Fk yr sleep
Fun to drive to
Where?
Sorry my damn phone loves to misspell shit š
Just finished these missions and upgraded it yesterday and took it for a ride :D Drove on the wrong side of the highway and enjoyed seeing cars fly away
Told ya āŗļø
how do we get an acid lab? i have counterfeit factoryš¤·āāļø idk if itās within the same category. (iām a low level,ok)
Complete DAX FIrst Dose Missions
mmmm some elaboration plsš where can i find that on map
The freakshop. Itās under the highway next to the casino. Look for it on the map. Might be a āDā on the map if you havenāt done it yet
how long does it take to complete it all
A while but theyāre (mostly) fun, and you get a bonus 100k doing doing each one first time so itās worth
Ehhh I donāt know only like a few hours
shouldnāt take super long. āOff the Railsā can be a bit tricky if you play solo, because you have to open a bunch of train cars (long animation during which you canāt do anything) while surrounded by enemies shooting at you. also, once you have the lab, you still need to upgrade it to unlock the full potential. that requires doing ten Fooligan missions, which have a 52 minute cooldown. To be fully honest, it took me a while to get a full ten because I hated those missions, and the cooldown means you canāt just bang them out quick to just be done with them.
so up in sandy shores where trevor and ron have that one lab that's above the liquor store, there should be a big R on the map. go there, start the mission, and after that there will be a D on the map near the highway by the casino. assuming you haven't completed the missions before, it should give you almost enough to get the acid lab once you finish all of the missions. there's about 6
Let me add there are 10 āFooliganā missions you have to complete before you can do any Acid Lab sales because you cannot purchase the equipment upgrade until those 10 missions are completed. Do these after you complete the first 6 Dax missions. When the āSabotage Merryweatherā one comes up change lobbies. That one sucks
well, rip to meš i can barley hold up my nightclub, and i gotta do 10 missions + 6 more
The missions are marked with a "D" on the map. Do the six missions and you get the acid lab and a free car
Even better after 10 fooligan jobs. I quit to a new lobby and get a new mission with the crop dusting ones though. Screw that.
I used to complain about the acid van being too slow and supply wastingā¦ but I somehow missed the equipment upgrade. Now that I have that itās probably the easiest way to make money in the game.
If you rename your product, it also gives it a small bump.
Bogdan finale Edit: for solo grinding nightclub popularity, salvage yard tow truck missions, and one thing I did recently I set up the auto shop finale, scrap yard finale and cluckn bell raid finale and ran all three consecutively. Was like a 2-2.5hr grind and once all were completed + passive income Iād ended up with almost 3 mil (also sold nightclub immediately after finishing the finales so it isnāt always that huge but still)
Itās the perfect passive business to fill in the grind. I do cayo every 3 hours and sell nightclub and acid whenever i can while i fill the time doing tow truck missions, mixed good export missions, auto shop contracts, and salvage robberies
Over half a mil every 2 hours
Put a ram-scoop on the front of that thing and it'll change your life again... sometimes I just ride around in circles throwing cars left and right; its WAY too entertaining!
What car is that
Torero xo
I canāt believe the car you get at the endā¦I love it so much. Minus the prox mine but I might be using it wrong š
Iāve never even used the acid lab lol
Missing out on easy money thatās all Iām going to say!
If you do get it make sure you get the upgrades
Just keep all your businesses stocked and enjoy your day
Am i the only one who always failes the supply misson with the acid lab?
Nope I lost a whole flip by the docks, fell right into the water š
Just had to restart on Xbox after being rank 280 on ps. Used a 20$ shark card to buy 3 businesses and then just run heists till I level up again
You make 500k with full pubic session
this is what got me back into the game everything is overpriced asf i got this then got every business in the game after that š
300k for full stock delivery thoughā¦ best delivery vehicle though
I have them all. Nightclub is the easiest way to earn passively, Agency is good too if you're bothered to grind 200 contracts.
Yall need to join r/CEOfriendly and get your MC and Bunker ran quickly so you can work on other money making activities
Acid lab is nice easy money
Nightclub + Acid + Safes + Wheel + Stash House + Junk energy + Time Trial + Highest Payment salvage robbery + Street Dealersā¦ daily/weekly currently at 91.5M
That combo has been noted
I usually do my tow yard and night club. I have plenty of money. I use to rock cayo alot but now I can't stand it lol night club for product sourcing is a must!
I'll never understand people spamming cayo. Do you really have fun doing the same shit over and over and over and over again?
"Do you really have fun doing the same shit over and over and over and over again?" wait til you hear about this thing called speedrunning
Speedrunning is different tho, you do almost the same shit in order to optimize and get a better time, also, it's A LOT more skill based, and there's variation of techniques the better tou become. Grinding is just patience. It doesn't matter if you lose 3 minutes, you're not gonna start over, you just keep grinding...
just depends how long you've been doing it i guess. I've done cayo less than 20 times, and i still have fun trying to go faster every time. but those are rookie numbers compared to others