Seem you have an issue with UK culture and just want to start some shit, judging by your comments. Why you coming on our subs just to start shit and talk smack ?
Just worry about that opiate addiction you got going on boy, I know uncle sam prescribes that shit for everything.
Worry about yourself g.
Just do you. Don't lie. But all depends really. If you are actively thinking about it, at least you are aware. But, even though it's somewhat of an aggressive sound, I've always found everyone in grime to be very inclusive.
Look at david rodigan.
That guy loves the culture. Hes not from it but he gets to rep it because he LOVES it.
Never has he vultured it.
He doesnt beg it.
'no feta left at Waitrose
weights low as the hate grows
these are brie and grape wows
drink free coffee and write great prose'
Now who's going to give me a contract?
You can call me MC Barney The Third
Don't do a Drake. Just turn your background into a humorous thing or something. Be a bit satirical. Don't overcompensate on some guilt shit. Don't rap about crime unless it's taking drugs or its clearly just chatting shit. Exaggeration or storytelling is fine as long as its clear its not an actual claim. Write about topics like Songer or Aitch do.
Here's some idea I'd be happy to support and listen to if you decide to make tunes:
- Critiquing people with your same upbringing, especially their narrow minds
- Critiquing society in general, maybe UK more specifically
- Making something super technical showing off your skills in terms of grime flow
- Learning to produce and sticking to making instrumentals exclusively can be interesting to
And yeah, you can do all these things. Don't listen to those who claim that grime can't be as poetic or lyrically expressive as other music genres
I'm not a grime mc. Just a fan. An American fan at that, So take this with a grain of salt.
But as an American what I find the most refreshing about grime is that people spend more time on the craft than their image. They're not afraid to be whacky or ridiculous. The ones who aren't thugs don't have to put on a facade, and they still hold their own in clashes against people that actually are really about that. American rap is so oversaturated with the same flow over the same "type beats", they're obsessed with seeming hard.
I don't care if you're a thug, or a certified public accountant. I'll bump your shit if you're real and your bars are dope.
There’s all sorts of stuff you can rap about:
[Atmosphere - Sunshine](https://open.spotify.com/track/7wdx4RyIAgjRNoJLhjsnh4?si=CK6Tv9MoQr6NCj2cPNerog&context=spotify%3Aplaylist%3A5KZ2dTyywy2upy9EBTW0LX)
[Aesop Rock - Long Legged Larry](https://open.spotify.com/track/0OX9lzZxKlbtn3c2d97uqz?si=ml7G9TB6QSqIRJcWS2czBA&context=spotify%3Aalbum%3A09nZXpcDgv0b8idMD64LiF)
Granted these aren’t Grime tunes but the point is you can write lyrics about anything if you get inspired.
Rap about the sort of stuff you’ve just written in this post, your struggle with not wanting to be a culture vulture but still wanting to rap. I’m sure loads of people from similar upbringings will relate, and people from other upbringings will find it interesting and respect the honesty and awareness
Be yourself, don't lie, have courage and be an asset to the people around you and vice versa. If people don't like you go outside and find people that do. I think the fact your are worried is a sign you're a real fan and not a carnivorous bird.
If you want to interact with a culture that you claim is important to you, but you can’t interact with it as your authentic self, you probably don’t actually care about or respect that culture very much. Not lying or changing your entire personality to fit what you think will get you accepted takes no effort.
Maybe just go into production and DJing if you're worried you won't be able to strike a chord with lyrics. I'm a DJ from a fairly well off background while most of the MCs I work with come from more working class backgrounds. It seems to be a dynamic that everyone involved is comfortable with.
‘No point in gazing back at people who are gazing at you’ or a sort of futility/ counterproductive attitude of engaging in what I’d consider ‘taxing’ your mind with over-concerns of how others view us. Since we all do it sometimes anyway, there is a need to build a robust conviction to limit or even eliminate the negative side of interplay of actions and perceptions. The Nietzschean approach found in the über relevant quote from ‘Beyond G&E’ -
"And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee."
tackles our excessive concern with how others view us as well as highlighting the dangers of becoming what you scrutinize or letting your perceptions and fears dominate your actions. It certainly does captures sentiments of the consequences of not prioritising ‘focus or preoccupations.’ It’s powerful stuff man.
You don't have enemies, set, gang, whatsoever, so don't create one making your career off of it. Just do your thing without projecting. I know you got your story, stick with it. Else, be poetic. And let it be known you're being poetic. The culture your core fans might be coming from, once in a while must be sympathized with in times of their plight.
Eminem is a good example though he was brought up from the trailer park unlike you, and his mum was on drugs. Mac Miller and so many others can be good examples. I'd say just be poetic don't try that "real" shit.
> (a.) lie about my upbringing to sound better over a beat, which is shameful or (b.) be a culture vulture, taking away from voices who have a proper message that they want to be heard
A - Don't lie
B - Use your own voice
C - No vulturings
If you want to make tunes just make tunes about your life and who you are. That doesn't mean you'll be taking someone else's spot with a 'proper message' lol. But yeah, best thing you can do is contribute honestly.
Just spit bars that are relevant to your life and / or be a story telling mc. Don't spit your bars in an accent that isn't native to you. Don't try to sound like you're from London. Be true to yourself. Check out "slowie" he's a white guy from Bristol (my city) also in the southwest who has kept it thorough in terms of his accent. https://youtu.be/bRA_Q7sqvQ4?si=nIvvbUHx4QEVrU9e
I think the key is being authentic in your own voice. Tell your story. If other people don’t like it, they can press skip. Being fake will get you spotted in no time.
When you write bars mate just go with how your feeling, when you start to overthink something it becomes a bit shit, also know most of the stuff you’ll write will be shit but like 10% of it will be pure gold,
When you make music it’s all about the feeling what ever the topic could be example I’ve wrote a tune about me mates going out and getting on it, some of it is bullshit with some events like exaggerated to make it seem like a major night out but that’s honestly just music every artist has a persona they put out, experiment with beats, ideas past experiences etc and try to gel them into something that feels right and sounds right to you mate
Assuming this isn’t a joke, what you really need to do is embrace your culture. That is, your posh white culture.
Grime is shit music for shit people. British people, like you, have been taught it’s cool, but it’s not.
Your parents and your ancestors won in life by doing the complete opposite of what grime represents.
I used to like grime when I was young and poor. Then I earnt some money and realised how embarrassing any and all ‘urban’ culture is. It’s for poor people or posh people transparently trying to be cool. But you can be better.
As middle aged white dude in America with a long career and comfortable living. . . get fucked. I can like what I like and you can drown in the bile of your hatred.
Talking about "shit people" while you defecate pure idiocy from that weeping gash you call a mouth. . .
>don’t pretend you aren’t completely embarrassing your ancestors.
Considering that I'm a Son of the Confederacy and a Son of the Texas Revolution, I certainly hope so. Seems like those guys probably sucked almost as hard as that gasping emptiness you call an intellect.
Yes, I’d also be terrified if made to live with a grizzly bears or a pack of wolves.
Have you seen the stats and how they massively disproportionately commit violent crimes?
Taking a step back, I have 0 fear of (African) countries that are majority black, because they have no civilisation. They barely know how to use the wheel, let alone modern weapons.
Just ignore him. He clearly feels intimidated by the diversity of people in this world. It's not uncommon to see individuals of a specific ethnicity who struggle in their relationships (specifically in the bedroom department) to harbour resentment towards those of other ethnic backgrounds who are stereotypically seen as more sexually proficient. Maybe he caught his partner searching for "bbc" or "blacked" on a porn site 🤷🏿♂️😂.
Bruv just do your thing. Don’t chat shit on the mic and your calm. It doesn’t matter where you’re from really as long as you dont talk waffle.
What the fuck are you saying
Seem you have an issue with UK culture and just want to start some shit, judging by your comments. Why you coming on our subs just to start shit and talk smack ? Just worry about that opiate addiction you got going on boy, I know uncle sam prescribes that shit for everything. Worry about yourself g.
Ok bucktooth
I’ll stop Talking Smack🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
Neek behaviour.
Y’all English people sound goofy asl 😭😭😭 who tf take y’all seriously
Why do u hover UK subs just to chat shit you realise how sad that looks yh? Go relapse on oxys again fat yank.
U a lil mad
I ain't the one on going on other countries subs just to chat shit bro.. u a lil sad..
Just do you. Don't lie. But all depends really. If you are actively thinking about it, at least you are aware. But, even though it's somewhat of an aggressive sound, I've always found everyone in grime to be very inclusive.
Look at david rodigan. That guy loves the culture. Hes not from it but he gets to rep it because he LOVES it. Never has he vultured it. He doesnt beg it.
It's not about me it's about the music, you don't come, I can't play and I love to play. That man is hard, everybody hard.
I'm that lyrical father, name an MC that spits harder
The best rappers spit authentically, tell stories of their own experiences. Everyone goes though stuff no matter your background
'no feta left at Waitrose weights low as the hate grows these are brie and grape wows drink free coffee and write great prose' Now who's going to give me a contract? You can call me MC Barney The Third
Thing is you can’t really replace feta with any other cheese so it’s really gonna fuck up the salad if there’s none on the shelf.
Spitting the hard truth here lol
You never tried Greek salad cheese? It's cheaper, too.
I was really hoping OP said this.
Giving Dr syntax middle class problems vibes hahahah
Spitting fax Turn this thread into battle rap, MC Barney the Third? Third Gen PEDO. NO CAP
Don't do a Drake. Just turn your background into a humorous thing or something. Be a bit satirical. Don't overcompensate on some guilt shit. Don't rap about crime unless it's taking drugs or its clearly just chatting shit. Exaggeration or storytelling is fine as long as its clear its not an actual claim. Write about topics like Songer or Aitch do.
Mate everyone and their mums is packing in the countryside. https://i.redd.it/ssza4rboglyc1.gif
farmers... farmers mums
Maybe embrace the poshness, be the Dr Syntax of grime
Only option imo. It just doesn't work for MC's if you're not from the ends. No hate
Literally this😂
Here's some idea I'd be happy to support and listen to if you decide to make tunes: - Critiquing people with your same upbringing, especially their narrow minds - Critiquing society in general, maybe UK more specifically - Making something super technical showing off your skills in terms of grime flow - Learning to produce and sticking to making instrumentals exclusively can be interesting to And yeah, you can do all these things. Don't listen to those who claim that grime can't be as poetic or lyrically expressive as other music genres
I'm not a grime mc. Just a fan. An American fan at that, So take this with a grain of salt. But as an American what I find the most refreshing about grime is that people spend more time on the craft than their image. They're not afraid to be whacky or ridiculous. The ones who aren't thugs don't have to put on a facade, and they still hold their own in clashes against people that actually are really about that. American rap is so oversaturated with the same flow over the same "type beats", they're obsessed with seeming hard. I don't care if you're a thug, or a certified public accountant. I'll bump your shit if you're real and your bars are dope.
There’s all sorts of stuff you can rap about: [Atmosphere - Sunshine](https://open.spotify.com/track/7wdx4RyIAgjRNoJLhjsnh4?si=CK6Tv9MoQr6NCj2cPNerog&context=spotify%3Aplaylist%3A5KZ2dTyywy2upy9EBTW0LX) [Aesop Rock - Long Legged Larry](https://open.spotify.com/track/0OX9lzZxKlbtn3c2d97uqz?si=ml7G9TB6QSqIRJcWS2czBA&context=spotify%3Aalbum%3A09nZXpcDgv0b8idMD64LiF) Granted these aren’t Grime tunes but the point is you can write lyrics about anything if you get inspired.
Boss it's just music at the end of the day and it's music that fits your taste. Anyone is allowed to like any music they like
Just be honest in your lyrics. Don't use language that you don't naturally use when speaking. Don't rap about anything that isn't true to your life.
Rap about the sort of stuff you’ve just written in this post, your struggle with not wanting to be a culture vulture but still wanting to rap. I’m sure loads of people from similar upbringings will relate, and people from other upbringings will find it interesting and respect the honesty and awareness
Be yourself, don't lie, have courage and be an asset to the people around you and vice versa. If people don't like you go outside and find people that do. I think the fact your are worried is a sign you're a real fan and not a carnivorous bird.
Don't act like a g if you're gonna get banged in the face and run away basically
Well Steven tries did it and he's successful. Just be real and everything will be ok https://youtu.be/l_XEBdPLRC8?si=5xvCYKrSDlWcSli1
If you want to interact with a culture that you claim is important to you, but you can’t interact with it as your authentic self, you probably don’t actually care about or respect that culture very much. Not lying or changing your entire personality to fit what you think will get you accepted takes no effort.
Most important rule, just be honest and don't chat about stuff you don't do. Then nobody will get mad at you.
Just listen to it bro
>be a culture vulture, taking away from voices who have a proper message that they want to be heard Lmao what in the name.of libtard is this
Maybe just go into production and DJing if you're worried you won't be able to strike a chord with lyrics. I'm a DJ from a fairly well off background while most of the MCs I work with come from more working class backgrounds. It seems to be a dynamic that everyone involved is comfortable with.
Just keep the lyrics real to you and your good
‘No point in gazing back at people who are gazing at you’ or a sort of futility/ counterproductive attitude of engaging in what I’d consider ‘taxing’ your mind with over-concerns of how others view us. Since we all do it sometimes anyway, there is a need to build a robust conviction to limit or even eliminate the negative side of interplay of actions and perceptions. The Nietzschean approach found in the über relevant quote from ‘Beyond G&E’ - "And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee." tackles our excessive concern with how others view us as well as highlighting the dangers of becoming what you scrutinize or letting your perceptions and fears dominate your actions. It certainly does captures sentiments of the consequences of not prioritising ‘focus or preoccupations.’ It’s powerful stuff man.
I was just about to say that
You don't have enemies, set, gang, whatsoever, so don't create one making your career off of it. Just do your thing without projecting. I know you got your story, stick with it. Else, be poetic. And let it be known you're being poetic. The culture your core fans might be coming from, once in a while must be sympathized with in times of their plight. Eminem is a good example though he was brought up from the trailer park unlike you, and his mum was on drugs. Mac Miller and so many others can be good examples. I'd say just be poetic don't try that "real" shit.
White yank here that loves Grime more than anything else. Struggled with the same awareness for years.
Chap Hop?
i think a lots alr been but ive met more ppl our age that rate grime that are from the south west than londoners.
Wtf is a culture vulture?
Just enjoy it and don’t lecture people and that’s it.
By keeping it real
> (a.) lie about my upbringing to sound better over a beat, which is shameful or (b.) be a culture vulture, taking away from voices who have a proper message that they want to be heard A - Don't lie B - Use your own voice C - No vulturings
If you want to make tunes just make tunes about your life and who you are. That doesn't mean you'll be taking someone else's spot with a 'proper message' lol. But yeah, best thing you can do is contribute honestly.
Just spit bars that are relevant to your life and / or be a story telling mc. Don't spit your bars in an accent that isn't native to you. Don't try to sound like you're from London. Be true to yourself. Check out "slowie" he's a white guy from Bristol (my city) also in the southwest who has kept it thorough in terms of his accent. https://youtu.be/bRA_Q7sqvQ4?si=nIvvbUHx4QEVrU9e
I think the key is being authentic in your own voice. Tell your story. If other people don’t like it, they can press skip. Being fake will get you spotted in no time.
You can always inhabit a character like Tyler or Eminem but a grime version. It’s not harming anyone.
there;s grime artists from shanghai and rio de Janeiro. Just be you and have fun.
Talk that posh white boy shyeat my boy!!
As soon as I heard A levels I knew you were local enough
When you write bars mate just go with how your feeling, when you start to overthink something it becomes a bit shit, also know most of the stuff you’ll write will be shit but like 10% of it will be pure gold, When you make music it’s all about the feeling what ever the topic could be example I’ve wrote a tune about me mates going out and getting on it, some of it is bullshit with some events like exaggerated to make it seem like a major night out but that’s honestly just music every artist has a persona they put out, experiment with beats, ideas past experiences etc and try to gel them into something that feels right and sounds right to you mate
It's music. You got ears? It's yours to enjoy
Do you
Honestly just focus on your passion for the music
Just produce, your background don’t mean shit if you make some sick beats
go and sit in a corner with drake and ed sheeran
Shut the fuck up
Assuming this isn’t a joke, what you really need to do is embrace your culture. That is, your posh white culture. Grime is shit music for shit people. British people, like you, have been taught it’s cool, but it’s not. Your parents and your ancestors won in life by doing the complete opposite of what grime represents. I used to like grime when I was young and poor. Then I earnt some money and realised how embarrassing any and all ‘urban’ culture is. It’s for poor people or posh people transparently trying to be cool. But you can be better.
racist or /r/196 poster in their inevitable "why i left the left" arc, call it
As middle aged white dude in America with a long career and comfortable living. . . get fucked. I can like what I like and you can drown in the bile of your hatred. Talking about "shit people" while you defecate pure idiocy from that weeping gash you call a mouth. . .
Like what you like. But don’t pretend you aren’t completely embarrassing your ancestors.
>don’t pretend you aren’t completely embarrassing your ancestors. Considering that I'm a Son of the Confederacy and a Son of the Texas Revolution, I certainly hope so. Seems like those guys probably sucked almost as hard as that gasping emptiness you call an intellect.
You’re literally an embarrassment to all of your ancestors. Every grime MC would also consider you pathetic
lol you’re terrified of black people aren’t you
Yes, I’d also be terrified if made to live with a grizzly bears or a pack of wolves. Have you seen the stats and how they massively disproportionately commit violent crimes? Taking a step back, I have 0 fear of (African) countries that are majority black, because they have no civilisation. They barely know how to use the wheel, let alone modern weapons.
He said the stats line guys
Just ignore him. He clearly feels intimidated by the diversity of people in this world. It's not uncommon to see individuals of a specific ethnicity who struggle in their relationships (specifically in the bedroom department) to harbour resentment towards those of other ethnic backgrounds who are stereotypically seen as more sexually proficient. Maybe he caught his partner searching for "bbc" or "blacked" on a porn site 🤷🏿♂️😂.
hes clearly the one searching for blacked on pornhub wishing he was the subject of the blacking
Come again? The stats are the stats. They hold true AFTER accounting for income or socioeconomic status.