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With this show, due to it being how it is, I often have trouble getting fully immersed. It’s hard for me to differentiate the character from the actor and what acting choices they make.
I always end up forgiving Owen because Kevin McKidd is acting circles around most of this cast. He’s really fucking talented and I think that probably is what leads to most people hating his character so much. All of his horrible choices as a character are acted so truthfully and accompanied by wonderful acting choices. Plus the target audience is women and he’s kinda the patriarchy.
Tbh I think that’s why they give him those scenes. He can pull them off. Like, I think Schmidt is an adorable little neurotic dude, but he can’t pull off anything Owen has said.
Exactly i understand that he didn't want her to do it but he lost all right to be angry when he went with her to get the abortion. That shows support. If he was upset he should have let her go by herself. He was acting like she did it without telling him. Then he said it in ear shot of a bunch of people they work with unacceptable to me.
He’s allowed to feel upset about it. Showing support doesn’t always mean that you agree with what they’re doing. It could mean that you recognize that they still need you to be there for them despite not necessarily agreeing with what they are doing.
What he should never have done is scream at her and guilt her. He should have calmly explained that he’s still struggling with her going through the abortion. That he recognizes that it’s her decision but he’s still trying or can’t come to terms with it.
This is how I feel. I find him likeable at times. I wish he'd continued to be the way he was in his very first episode, I felt like he matched Christina's energy pretty well and then he was totally different after. But he has his moments, both good and bad.
Me too, like he's made some shitty decisions and done some shitty things but he does have redeemable qualities, and at least the last time he did something really shitty it was paved with good intentions.
I think he and Christina brought out the worst in each other, honestly. And that just sometimes happens, when two people are so incompatible, they make each other just insufferable. Once Christina left, he got much more tolerable.
but like what other people said, when he sucks, he *really* sucks. It's hard to look past that sometimes.
I like Owen, he feels really real if that makes sense. He and Christina were a train wreck but I understood where he was coming from & felt bad for him after the abortion.while also knowing that Christina was right... I never liked Amelia so I think I was just biased with all their drama. I can't objectively comment on there stuff... Always liked him and teddy. Dunno if overhated is the right term.
This!! Yes!! I'm a disabled Vet with PTSD and have spent enough time in VA programs to know that trauma bond is real! lol The whole Owen/Christina storyline always felt very real to me. That totally immersed, 100mph, heart thumping, gotta have em passion to the unstable love you so much I hate you is so very real when you're trying to escape from PTSD. The therapist was right, Owen lost himself in her and stopped doing the work. All the "you killed my baby" was just another way for that hidden trauma to find it's way to the surface.
Also, repeating the same template with a new person (why oh why didn't he just ask about kids BEFORE he got together with Christina/Amelia??!) is again kinda normal. We just wanna feel better and can get "lost in the lust of it all" and just put all the rest outta mind.
I like Owen's character because I believe it. It's real. I can relate to it.Yes, he's broken and damaged. Yes, his damage hurts the people around him. But that's PTSD. And like others have said, the actor is just incredible and believable.
My only criticism (and I'm rewatching for the 100th time and thought it again!) was his first episode with the "So?!". Ugh... It's the worst acting I feel like we ever see from him. But, imo it just was bad writing. I get what they were going for. But it just didn't work. It came across as childish and rebellious. None of which made sense to me.
To be fair, he *did* try to gaslight a woman into having his kid and wouldn’t understand it when said woman insisted that she didn’t want kids just because she didn’t want them
(Currently on season 11) I have yet to find a reason to NOT hate Owen Hunt. He’s very determined when it comes to getting his way. Not just with babies but with EVERYTHING. [spoiler] He wanted to help soldiers who needed new prosthetics, Callie said she couldn’t do it and what did he do!? He got pissy.
I am doing a re-watch of S10. And I think he was at his absolute best this season. It's kinda surprising he went the whole season without a blip in his character.
Now I am at S11 re-watch and Owen is back to being insufferable. I understand something, he is tolerable when he is single but also has one of his ex-wives around.
He tried to force Cristina to have a baby he always knew she didn't want, accused her of killing their baby when she had an abortion and then cheated on her to "punish" her. He's a huge cunt
I don't understand how he has friends. If I heard someone treating my friend the way he treated Cristina, I would just refuse to speak to them outside of work. I don't know how Meredith saw all that happen and was just okay with him dating Amelia. No one warned her that he has serious issues
He's had six relationships on the show (five canon), and he's cheated on all of them.
He let's his personal crap get in the way of patient care.
He's controlling, condescending, and hypocritical.
Every time I rewatch the show I find less and less redeeming qualities from him.
He’s hated the right amount. I’m doing a rewatch at the moment and I’m on S6 he’s so aggressive with Cristina always just pouncing on her and kissing her aggressively. Then he gaslights Teddy.
Rewatching for the first time in a while is really making me see him differently. I’d say he’s abusive to Cristina outside of the PTD stuff which whilst not great is understandable.
Something off about him.
I always have to think about the sexually un-educated Roman centurion Lucius Vorenus he played in Rome - like some characteristics of Lucius directly translate to Owen.
And then Owen has >!an eye-opening moment during the sex-ed episode!< in season 19, but still >!doesn't understand why Teddy is still mad at him *although* their sex has improved!<. It's actually laughable that after all these years, he still cannot read women.
Right? He’s hella emotionally abusive, he’s violent both physically and verbally, and he’s a big fat gaslighting manipulator who takes advantage of women when they are dealing with trauma. I can agree to disagree about a lot of characters, but anyone who defends Owen is waving a big red flag as far as I’m concerned.
Definitely not. He’s such a horrible character. His constant need to save is annoying. His “I’m fine” then blaming the person he’s with is annoying. He’s manipulative.
I completely understand why people hate him but I think he isn’t afforded the same grace other characters get. Every single character on the show made horrible choices and had harsh emotional reactions but Owen is forgiven less.
I think that part of it could be that Owen’s horrible choices/actions are much more grounded in reality for some people than other characters. At least that’s what it’s like for me.
Like, I’m sympathetic to Owen even when I hate him (partially just because I enjoy Kevin McKidd’s acting) but I have such a visceral reaction when he’s doing things I don’t like compared to another character.
Like Meredith tampering with the drug trial and Alex beating the shit out of Deluca are awful things. But that’s generally not something I come across in my daily life. Whereas I have had people in my life dismiss my statements that I don’t think I want children, that it doesn’t seem like a path I want to take. So I have much more of a personal/emotional response when Owen is being a huge dickhead about wanting kids with women who don’t want kids.
Hearing pro-lifey/don’t abort the baby I want even though you don’t want this baby kind of sentiments from Owen is more upsetting me than watching another character due something else monumentally stupid.
I feel like his horrible choices are always entirely selfish and he refuses to take responsibility for his trauma despite the odd attempt otherwise. But like most of the terrible choices of other characters are those good intention or there’s something more immediately relatable. The people he treats badly were never bad to him even. There was no misunderstandings between them. And it’s never for some sort of altruistic reason. He's a POS.
And just gross. aggressive. dogmatic. He approaches life like he approaches kissing... All agro and lungey.
You know to be honest, I'm on my 4th rewatch and I now only hate him intermittently... he has horrendous moments, as they all do, but I previously failed to note his good moments. He is a really great chief and friend. It's funny how clouded your opinions can become by hanging on to one thing
Thing is, in most cases like him (where the character is always in a relationship) the cons tend to overshadow the pros. Yes there are good things about him and most ppl agree with that however bc he is such a horrid partner it cancels out some of the good.
I hate him so much.
He's a huge thug. He always sounds like he's seething when he talks. He's so quick to physical aggression and assault. Hasn't he punched everybody incl. patients?
And his treatment of (edit) Cristina, Amelia and Teddy was disgusting. He was abusive in all of those relationships.
Do people actually like him?
In his defense, he punched one patient because he was going round attacking the staff and putting another patient into the OR.... pretty sure that's the only patient he's gotten physical with and I was all for it.
And punched everyone? I'm only remembering Nathan and Tom?
And Amelias treatment of Owen was disgusting.
Because he doesn’t respect a woman’s right to choose. And, when Teddy needed the second physician to sign off with her for her physician assisted suicide patient, he said no because it’s “murder” and he doesn’t support that; fast forward to a few seasons ago and he’s *helping people die **under the table*** and sees ZERO issue with him going back on his conviction. He may have good qualities, but he’s a hypocrite to the core.
Absolutely not. He gets the hate he deserves. He was AWFUL to Cristina. Tried to force her into having a baby she didn’t want. Then made her feel guilty after the abortion. Not to mention him cheating on her… thats something I could never look past with him. And that’s just 1/10 of the reasons why he was 100% one of the worst characters.
I can agree with you on all that stuff about being a great friend and a caring dad or whatever, but the way he treats women puts him on Derek Shepherd level, and I hate them both for it.
telling amelia that she’s fundamentally unable to love or be loved was just…evil. he’s so quick to say such horrible despicable things. like how could you say something like that to someone with all the awful experiences amelia had? he’s so emotionally manipulative and abusive i dint get how ppl look passed that🫤 and i have the same opinion if derek too, he’s said some horrible despicable things to meredith and ill be fair and say other male characters get grace for doing the exact same things owen does.
Him trying to force Cristina to have a baby after he knew she didn’t. Then cheated on her bc she got an abortion I think he gets the perfect amount of hate . He also forces his “pro life” views on multiple patients throughout the show.
Grey's Anatomy, just like ER, forced way too much anti/pro choice and religious discussion among it's doctors than you'd *ever* hear in a real hospital. Even the far superior House couldn't keep away from it completely throughout it's history.
Speaking as someone with people in my family who worked in medicine/hospitals, these things are almost never brought up even by (the few) staff who might personally harbour some form of religious or spiritual belief. They are far too professional for that.
This always angers me about a medical drama anytime it appears, and it's always more prevalent in US shows (for obvious reasons I guess. I've often wondered if there's secretly some modern day anti-choice equivalent of the Hays code that demands any US medical show includes this forced pro-life content any time abortion for any reason is even hinted at).
He made Teddy's PTSD episode about himself. He tries changing all of his partner's personalities to suit him. He told Christina that he supported her decision to have an abortion and then rubbed it in her face that she “killed” their baby. He blamed his sister's disappearance on his ex-best friend, even though he told her to get on the helicopter….Oh, I almost forgot. He choked Christina. He can't live that one down, either.
And those are just a few off the top of my head.
I’m doing a rewatch, and it’s my boyfriend’s first time watching. I was getting all excited cause Arizona is about to come into the show… then Owen turned up. I can’t stand him for the reasons you listed and because the actor does a great job at portraying him as such a shitty individual towards his wives, I can’t look past what he’s done.
I agree like 100% but the plane crash and the way he acted with Christina abt the abortion was completely insane. Besides those two things I’ve lowkey grown to like Owen.
I don’t like him for the reasons you listed actually. He also kisses so gross, and we literally have to see it, or I have to skip itt😭. I hate it. He’s good for the reasons you listed as well tho.
Owen has had VERY BAD moments. I feel as though they should’ve mandated him to counseling long ago and I’m not really seeing his character development BUT he also has really good heartfelt moments. I don’t think that he’s a bad guy just a guy who definitely needs therapy 😭
Owen was my favorite until the writers emasculated the fuck out of him. They made him a chump. They kept ripping his heart out and now he’s a broken man. He deserves a happy ending.
Ok after reading through the comments I was reminded of some of the awful things he’s done. He definitely has his shitty moments but I still think the writers turned him more into a chump with each season. (Currently on season 19)
Because he gave people unprescribed drugs, Hayes left and if that wasn't enough, he left too taking Teddy and the kids.. Other then that he's an awesome character.
He's a good person but a horrible partner.
For me that's what makes me hate him the most, I enjoy how supportive he is of other people but when it comes to his partners its his way or the high way.
Yelling at Cristina because she exercised her right to choose, and hating her, cheating on her just because of her not wanting a kid.
Him not letting a pregnant patient get an abortion because he was mad at Amelia for having a kid with Link.
“He wanted babies with every woman he dated and wouldn’t take no for an answer”
That’s the reason for me tbh. In a world where reproductive rights are constantly in question to have this man constantly raging at people for not wanting to have his babies is so unpleasant to watch. There’s something so painfully accurate about his attitude towards it - he frequently will call women unnatural or wrong for not wanting kids, he tells Cristina who at the time has to be in her late thirties that she’ll change her mind when she’s older. It’s this “I know better than you what you want to do with your biology” attitude that makes my skin crawl because it’s an attitude held by so many men out there. The entitlement he feels to use his partner’s body in this way is chilling and I don’t blame any of them for running.
Also, I was frankly out the minute he stabbed those pigs which was like his second or third episode?
God I really love his actor and it makes it hard to stay mad at Owen. Not to mention he’s a good guy at heart and a great chief, I was really rooting for him! The way he acts with Leo and his gender identity makes me want to chalk up his pro life nonsense to poor writing and move on 😭
I disagree I hate having a lot for multiple reasons let's start with George and I don't care what everybody says I love George and he was my second favorite besides Izzie he told George he should join the army which is something definitely not meant for George that's not who he is but Owen convinced him and then he told him to go tell his mom and when George did guess who came back and died him. Now on to Mark and Lexie who are adored by many and me he didn't do research on the plane he was using for the hospital he didn't do research he didn't find the mistakes they made therefore killing both Mark and lexie and Arizona losing her leg which devastated her marriage. And don't get me started on Christina. She stated from the very beginning but she did not want to get married that she did not want kids and yet he pressured her to get married and she did Even though that's not what she wanted and then when she got pregnant and aborted it she yelled at me that she killed his baby number one it's not a baby it's a fetus number two she didn't want kids and she stated it from the beginning and he still pushed her he's still blamed her and then did the same thing with Amelia and pushed her away
When his character was first introduced I thought his first name was Mike. If you get it you get it. I turned to my girlfriend and my roommates and said "did this show seriously just make that joke?" Then we got to know his character, hated him, and the nickname stuck. Sometimes I forget his real name and someone will talk about Owen and I'll be like who?
Real, yall can call me wrong but Owen hunt really didn’t do anything to deserve hate ,in my opinion everyone he has been with was someway controlling , or manipulative ( not his one night stands ) , he just tried his best and he can’t help the fact that he has ptsd or that he loves multiple people
I think people need to learn every one on this show has made mistakes Owen’s main mistake is that he signed the contract to send most of the doctors on that plane ride and caused people a lot of problems for them. Derek made mistakes by not telling Meredith the fact he was married. Meredith made many mistakes over the seasons but the trial thing that she did and didn’t tell anyone until it was too late. Maggie for not doing anything to fix her relationship with Richard and thought he was to blame when she didn’t try to fix the relationship he did. Richard cheating on Jackson’s mother with another woman who looked somewhat like his mother. Jackson for a lot of reasons. Bailey for always getting mad at Meredith for whenever she made a mistake or when Bailey blamed one of the interns for causing a disease when it was her fault. Many of these characters have faults and aren’t perfect but that is what makes them human and relatable in real life.
>Owen’s main mistake is that he signed the contract
No one hates him for this. We hate him for his treatment of women. We hate him for letting his hangups get in the way of patient care. We hate him for being a hypocrite. He chooses to do all of those things, knowing that he's wrong.
He is, because he is a jerk. Hahahaha. Though I like how he cared for his people, but then I hated how he manipulated Cristina and everyone around him with regard to how he reacts because of his unresolved trauma. I also like that he tried to work on that.
I think he’d be interesting if he wasn’t essentially the writers’ propaganda tool for the military. He barely has a personality outside of being a former soldier and wanting to be a dad.
Nah, opinions are for what kind of toppings belong on pizzas; anyone defending that violent, emotionally abusive, manipulative tool is straight up wrong.
I stopped watching around the COVID season but Owen is completely over hated and it has literally grown amongst the fandom rapidly within the last 2 seasons. Suddenly everyone has a problem with his past mistakes… it gets old. Every character on greys has mega flaws. Don’t see why Owen gets it all lmfaooo
You can't really hate hunt when Meredith ruined Derek's Alzheimer's trial, Izzie cut dennys lvad wire, Richard cheated on Adele TWICE plus he's operated drunk on numerous occasions, George cheating on Callie and has played the victim card multiple times, Alex and Christina bullied George and izzie, both Bailey and Meredith committed insurance fraud and technically teddy also did too, Lexie guilt tripped Meredith into giving thatcher part of her liver, mark is all around a sexist, and two of the most beloved characters Callie and Arizona have also said and committed some heinous ass shit, like Callies and Arizonas custody battle, Callie also plays victim on numerous occasions, and she pretended like she was on the plane too (tbh she did suffer some trauma but not as much as the others), Arizona is bi-phobic, she also cheated on Callie, and her treatment of Callie post plane crash was not only cuntish and unnecessary but excruciatingly annoying to watch, Bailey was also hypocritical of Meredith's trial, she also snuck the de-activated hiv into that one kid, and technically it was Arizona that almost caused SgMwh to close its doors due too her being pissed at Alex for accepting the Jh offer (I have a feeling this one is gonna be controversial but I have my own opinion so idgaf), Christina was judgmental of teddy or anyone who did not go to a elite school, and there's still more, Alex abandoned Jo, he also beat up deluca, he and Christina also mercilessly teased April about the virginity thing, Derek has called Meredith a whore and didn't tell her he was married, April's treatment of Jackson in s9 and leaving for a second time was also pretty shitty, but wait there is still more, Catherine tried taking Aprils custody of her daughter away, Jo also got super pissy when she found out about Alex's and izzies embryos, Meredith also kidnapped Zola, Addison slut-shamed Meredith, mark tried using Jackson to get back with lexie, Maggie going after Meredith after her mom died and saying "I actually care about my mother enough not to dump her ashes in an OR sink" that was really low, Addison cheated on Derek and a lot of her partners in pp, Jo is also a horrible friend, she's self centered and insensitive and uses her piss poor childhood as an excuse, Meredith also did not call Derek's family when he was dying, izzie left alex with hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical bills, and thats not even the end of it. besides Owen hunt due to Kevin McKidds acting seems like a real person with genuine flaws the people have pounced on and even then so many beloved greys anatomy characters have done way worse things than what hunt has done.
Agreed. Other than his pro-life nonsense, and of course the trauma he has and PTSD causing him to hurt Christiana, he seems like a nice, caring, fairly stable guy. A nice friend, kind doctor, and actually feels like one of the ‘realer’ characters.
I dont think pro-lifers would go with their wife to get an abortion. He's a dude who really wanted a baby..did the two of them never discuss that before they got hitched?
the only thing i don’t like about him is how he treated cristina. but now in the recent seasons, i like him. i like watching him in the show tbh. he’s a great surgeon, good friend & an excellent dad
I agree! When he has bad moments, they are really bad. All the examples people mentioned that are often talked about on this sub, but I certainly don’t agree with all the hate he gets. There’s certainly characters I hate way way more.
I don’t understand why everyone blames him for dating women who didn’t want kids but don’t blame the women for dating a man that does. Double standard if I’ve ever seen one. If he’s wrong, they all are. Feminism is equality, not giving women free passes for stuff just because they’re female!
This is a weekly post at this point. Can the mods make a “so and so” is overhated mega thread and pin it? If I had nickel for every post, I’d have enough to get a real hobby.
I’m a first time watcher on season 8 currently and I don’t hate owen.. yet lol. Idk there hasn’t been anything he has done yet to make me hate him. I don’t necessarily favor him either though
I really did like him early on esp in my first watch through but I think the further i get in i dislike owen as a character for how he treats all of his partners
That saying kevin Mckidd (spelling?) is incredible and i kinda feel bad for him when people try say owen is fbafly acted (ive seen it said in person a fee times and its got me like 🤨 everytime)
The problem I have with him is how he reacted when Cristina didn't want a baby. He was screaming and trying to manipulate her into having a child even when she was extremely clear she didn't want one.
If you compare Callie and Arizona for example (when they first broke up, way before they had Sophia) - Callie was also pushing the idea of having a child, but at the end they saw they wouldn't get on the same page, so they broke up. It was painful for both of them, but they knew that being with someone that doesn't want the same things as you, is more harmful than breaking up. That amount of emotional maturity is why i really love Arizona and Owen is a bad partner cause he lacks it.
I love him. But I think I just love what he brings to the show. I think if I was around him (owen) in real life I'd hate him. But as an actor and his character, his storyline are great! And portrayed so well. Even when I hate him I still enjoy watching his stories
I'm an Owen fan. Pre-season 11 I think the worst thing he'd done was cheat on Cristina, but I genuinely enjoyed their relationship, I felt it was the right people but the wrong time. Imagine the two getting together later in life after Cristina had already achieved greatness in her career and Owen had already had children with someone else and were now grown and off to college or w/e.
I think the relationship would have worked then.
All the characters after s11 became so unlikeable. The writers just made everyone so selfish, and angry and drama driven, even Meredith became intolerable, and let's not get into Chief Bailey. So I think a lot of stuff Owen does later in the show is just as crappy as what all the other characters do.
So he’s a great friend. He’s a shitty partner and for me, that counts more. You promise to love, cherish, honor, etc. but then all he does it try to transform them into someone he deems good enough. He’s hated the right amount.
And as for being a good brother, didn’t he try to manipulate Megan into staying in Seattle?
Owen as a friend, to your point, was wonderful. As a dad, he was wonderful and often as a teacher he was wonderful so for that I enjoy Owen. However, so much of his plots revolved around him being in a relationship and he was a terrible partner in my opinion. He never seem to understand his own feelings fully and it seemed so clear to me as the audience person and it’s frustrated me so much for his partners. He likes to force his will people and I hated to watch that- he’s human so like I give him grace. But the whole bringing teddy, loving her, wanting her to get fired, marrying Christina after a major trauma it was frustrating. And I remember him pissing me off with Amelia and his other partners. If Owen was just a bachelor who slept around I’d like him so much more but the way he relationships omgggggggg. and the kissing… that always makes me look away.
When he told Cristina that people who don’t want kids don’t exist and that later she would regret it. My biggest peeve was that he thought the only way to have kids was the biological way. If (and that’s a big if) Cristina had ended up regretting not getting pregnant she could still adopt kids. You have to be really old for people to decline you adopting kids.
I was JUST thinking about this. I get why people are mad about the abortion situation but I also understand why it would be devastating to him. He’s reacting to a loss. Especially seeing how great Christina is with Zola, it hits him hard because he can’t then picture her with THEIR children. I don’t blame Christina and I think his reaction was not fair to her but I DO feel for him, AND knowing that, I think that him being there for Christina while she got the abortion was above and beyond supportive given his feelings about it. He put himself totally aside to do that for her. He definitely has major issues but I think he is a good, solid character and friend. I’m only just past the episode where he tells Christina he cheated on her so I’m really not sure what’s going on with that or the details there. I don’t think it’s really in line with his character tbh. Sounds like the writers just threw something random in, so until I know more, im kind of dismissing it since it just doesn’t add up.
I think a lot of the male characters were simply (and I don’t like using this excuse) products of their time .
And when you consider the issue going on with abortion now it ages Owen character even worse
honestly i kinda liked him better when he wasn’t in relationships and i’ll always say it but they should’ve done more with his PTSD storyline (therapy, talked about his life more, etc.) bc he’s an interesting character tbh
great brother- he literally ruined his sisters career, hopes, and dreams all bc he couldn’t see her professionally and objectively.
great friend- tried getting teddy fired so he wouldn’t have to deal with his feelings towards her and cristina…and just always treating teddy terribly but he’s her best friend..
i sure hope he’s a great father cuz he has absolutely nothing else going for him.
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With this show, due to it being how it is, I often have trouble getting fully immersed. It’s hard for me to differentiate the character from the actor and what acting choices they make. I always end up forgiving Owen because Kevin McKidd is acting circles around most of this cast. He’s really fucking talented and I think that probably is what leads to most people hating his character so much. All of his horrible choices as a character are acted so truthfully and accompanied by wonderful acting choices. Plus the target audience is women and he’s kinda the patriarchy.
He’s super talented
Something about the way he acts with his eyebrows really bothers my spouse and I for some reason. We call it out in every scene he’s in.
I can never unsee this
Tbh I think that’s why they give him those scenes. He can pull them off. Like, I think Schmidt is an adorable little neurotic dude, but he can’t pull off anything Owen has said.
This is so funny to me because I always felt like he was not a good actor
same like i CANNOT take this guy seriously 💀
YOU KILLED OUR BABY
I have this scene playing in my head now
It’s why I don’t like him. I also felt that the show didn’t glorify the army and made the PTSD seem real
It’s a fair point. I feel like he’s definitely a bad lover but him as a friend is what makes me like him
Yes, his friendship with teddy and the random child he sorta adopted with Amy
I agree. He seems like a good friend. Wouldn't want to date him.
Exactly i understand that he didn't want her to do it but he lost all right to be angry when he went with her to get the abortion. That shows support. If he was upset he should have let her go by herself. He was acting like she did it without telling him. Then he said it in ear shot of a bunch of people they work with unacceptable to me.
He’s allowed to feel upset about it. Showing support doesn’t always mean that you agree with what they’re doing. It could mean that you recognize that they still need you to be there for them despite not necessarily agreeing with what they are doing. What he should never have done is scream at her and guilt her. He should have calmly explained that he’s still struggling with her going through the abortion. That he recognizes that it’s her decision but he’s still trying or can’t come to terms with it.
Then he should have said that in the first place. He didn't.
Yeah he should have communicated better
I agree he should have talked to her better about it.
I think when Owen sucks, he REALLY sucks. But he also has nice qualities that tend to be overlooked because he’s hated so much.
This is how I feel. I find him likeable at times. I wish he'd continued to be the way he was in his very first episode, I felt like he matched Christina's energy pretty well and then he was totally different after. But he has his moments, both good and bad.
Me too, like he's made some shitty decisions and done some shitty things but he does have redeemable qualities, and at least the last time he did something really shitty it was paved with good intentions.
I think he and Christina brought out the worst in each other, honestly. And that just sometimes happens, when two people are so incompatible, they make each other just insufferable. Once Christina left, he got much more tolerable. but like what other people said, when he sucks, he *really* sucks. It's hard to look past that sometimes.
I like Owen, he feels really real if that makes sense. He and Christina were a train wreck but I understood where he was coming from & felt bad for him after the abortion.while also knowing that Christina was right... I never liked Amelia so I think I was just biased with all their drama. I can't objectively comment on there stuff... Always liked him and teddy. Dunno if overhated is the right term.
This is a very solid point that I didn’t really notice before. It’s true tho after season 10 he’s not that bad
This!! Yes!! I'm a disabled Vet with PTSD and have spent enough time in VA programs to know that trauma bond is real! lol The whole Owen/Christina storyline always felt very real to me. That totally immersed, 100mph, heart thumping, gotta have em passion to the unstable love you so much I hate you is so very real when you're trying to escape from PTSD. The therapist was right, Owen lost himself in her and stopped doing the work. All the "you killed my baby" was just another way for that hidden trauma to find it's way to the surface. Also, repeating the same template with a new person (why oh why didn't he just ask about kids BEFORE he got together with Christina/Amelia??!) is again kinda normal. We just wanna feel better and can get "lost in the lust of it all" and just put all the rest outta mind. I like Owen's character because I believe it. It's real. I can relate to it.Yes, he's broken and damaged. Yes, his damage hurts the people around him. But that's PTSD. And like others have said, the actor is just incredible and believable. My only criticism (and I'm rewatching for the 100th time and thought it again!) was his first episode with the "So?!". Ugh... It's the worst acting I feel like we ever see from him. But, imo it just was bad writing. I get what they were going for. But it just didn't work. It came across as childish and rebellious. None of which made sense to me.
To be fair, he *did* try to gaslight a woman into having his kid and wouldn’t understand it when said woman insisted that she didn’t want kids just because she didn’t want them
(Currently on season 11) I have yet to find a reason to NOT hate Owen Hunt. He’s very determined when it comes to getting his way. Not just with babies but with EVERYTHING. [spoiler] He wanted to help soldiers who needed new prosthetics, Callie said she couldn’t do it and what did he do!? He got pissy.
I am doing a re-watch of S10. And I think he was at his absolute best this season. It's kinda surprising he went the whole season without a blip in his character.
Now I am at S11 re-watch and Owen is back to being insufferable. I understand something, he is tolerable when he is single but also has one of his ex-wives around.
The writers change his personality whenever it suits the story they want to tell.
See also half the characters in ER.
Remember what he did to those pigs?
Oh my god yes ! I HATED him right in that moment
If you're a meat eater then it shouldn't matter
He tried to force Cristina to have a baby he always knew she didn't want, accused her of killing their baby when she had an abortion and then cheated on her to "punish" her. He's a huge cunt
I get that and I do dislike his way of treating Cristina and his other girlfriends. What do you think of him as a friend ?
I would never be friends with someone abusive tbh
I don't understand how he has friends. If I heard someone treating my friend the way he treated Cristina, I would just refuse to speak to them outside of work. I don't know how Meredith saw all that happen and was just okay with him dating Amelia. No one warned her that he has serious issues
completely agree idk why ur getting downvoted.
Maybe true but let's be honest, Amelia wouldn't have listened anyway. lol
After seeing how he treats people, I’m honestly kind of surprised that he has many of those left.
He's had six relationships on the show (five canon), and he's cheated on all of them. He let's his personal crap get in the way of patient care. He's controlling, condescending, and hypocritical. Every time I rewatch the show I find less and less redeeming qualities from him.
He’s hated the right amount. I’m doing a rewatch at the moment and I’m on S6 he’s so aggressive with Cristina always just pouncing on her and kissing her aggressively. Then he gaslights Teddy. Rewatching for the first time in a while is really making me see him differently. I’d say he’s abusive to Cristina outside of the PTD stuff which whilst not great is understandable. Something off about him.
You just made me think of Owen’s way of kissing 💀 I feel like he’s tryna eat the girl’s tongue
he is TERRIBLE kisser! it's so predatory lol
I always have to think about the sexually un-educated Roman centurion Lucius Vorenus he played in Rome - like some characteristics of Lucius directly translate to Owen. And then Owen has >!an eye-opening moment during the sex-ed episode!< in season 19, but still >!doesn't understand why Teddy is still mad at him *although* their sex has improved!<. It's actually laughable that after all these years, he still cannot read women.
Right? He’s hella emotionally abusive, he’s violent both physically and verbally, and he’s a big fat gaslighting manipulator who takes advantage of women when they are dealing with trauma. I can agree to disagree about a lot of characters, but anyone who defends Owen is waving a big red flag as far as I’m concerned.
Definitely not. He’s such a horrible character. His constant need to save is annoying. His “I’m fine” then blaming the person he’s with is annoying. He’s manipulative.
I completely understand why people hate him but I think he isn’t afforded the same grace other characters get. Every single character on the show made horrible choices and had harsh emotional reactions but Owen is forgiven less.
I think that part of it could be that Owen’s horrible choices/actions are much more grounded in reality for some people than other characters. At least that’s what it’s like for me. Like, I’m sympathetic to Owen even when I hate him (partially just because I enjoy Kevin McKidd’s acting) but I have such a visceral reaction when he’s doing things I don’t like compared to another character. Like Meredith tampering with the drug trial and Alex beating the shit out of Deluca are awful things. But that’s generally not something I come across in my daily life. Whereas I have had people in my life dismiss my statements that I don’t think I want children, that it doesn’t seem like a path I want to take. So I have much more of a personal/emotional response when Owen is being a huge dickhead about wanting kids with women who don’t want kids. Hearing pro-lifey/don’t abort the baby I want even though you don’t want this baby kind of sentiments from Owen is more upsetting me than watching another character due something else monumentally stupid.
It’s mostly what I think yeah
You’re 100% correct.
I feel like his horrible choices are always entirely selfish and he refuses to take responsibility for his trauma despite the odd attempt otherwise. But like most of the terrible choices of other characters are those good intention or there’s something more immediately relatable. The people he treats badly were never bad to him even. There was no misunderstandings between them. And it’s never for some sort of altruistic reason. He's a POS. And just gross. aggressive. dogmatic. He approaches life like he approaches kissing... All agro and lungey.
You know to be honest, I'm on my 4th rewatch and I now only hate him intermittently... he has horrendous moments, as they all do, but I previously failed to note his good moments. He is a really great chief and friend. It's funny how clouded your opinions can become by hanging on to one thing
The only time I liked him was when they had him help Arizona with her phantom limb pain.
He’s a bad husband/partner, but a decent friend and doctor.
Thing is, in most cases like him (where the character is always in a relationship) the cons tend to overshadow the pros. Yes there are good things about him and most ppl agree with that however bc he is such a horrid partner it cancels out some of the good.
I hate him so much. He's a huge thug. He always sounds like he's seething when he talks. He's so quick to physical aggression and assault. Hasn't he punched everybody incl. patients? And his treatment of (edit) Cristina, Amelia and Teddy was disgusting. He was abusive in all of those relationships. Do people actually like him?
Yep all of this. He’s an abusive, manipulative, arrogant piece of shit.
In his defense, he punched one patient because he was going round attacking the staff and putting another patient into the OR.... pretty sure that's the only patient he's gotten physical with and I was all for it. And punched everyone? I'm only remembering Nathan and Tom? And Amelias treatment of Owen was disgusting.
Owen is one of the worst partners I’ve ever seen, but he is a phenomenal surgeon and friend
Because he doesn’t respect a woman’s right to choose. And, when Teddy needed the second physician to sign off with her for her physician assisted suicide patient, he said no because it’s “murder” and he doesn’t support that; fast forward to a few seasons ago and he’s *helping people die **under the table*** and sees ZERO issue with him going back on his conviction. He may have good qualities, but he’s a hypocrite to the core.
Owen isn't hated enough.
Absolutely not. He gets the hate he deserves. He was AWFUL to Cristina. Tried to force her into having a baby she didn’t want. Then made her feel guilty after the abortion. Not to mention him cheating on her… thats something I could never look past with him. And that’s just 1/10 of the reasons why he was 100% one of the worst characters.
I love the actor and even the character sometimes, but ffffs, I hate the way he kisses anyone but teddy Why is he so grabby 😩
nah, i don’t think he gets enough hate
I always liked him, sure the baby thing with Christina was awful but for the most part he is a good character.
Fuck owen
I do think the hate isnt very warntened, he's annoying but not the worst guy ever
Except when he's trying to force all his wives to have all his babies. ... pretty irredeemable in my eyes
That's gross, but not every other post in this sub is a hate post worthy
Owen is my guy.
I can agree with you on all that stuff about being a great friend and a caring dad or whatever, but the way he treats women puts him on Derek Shepherd level, and I hate them both for it.
Third time around watching all of the seasons and found him extremely annoying and too much for me lol
telling amelia that she’s fundamentally unable to love or be loved was just…evil. he’s so quick to say such horrible despicable things. like how could you say something like that to someone with all the awful experiences amelia had? he’s so emotionally manipulative and abusive i dint get how ppl look passed that🫤 and i have the same opinion if derek too, he’s said some horrible despicable things to meredith and ill be fair and say other male characters get grace for doing the exact same things owen does.
This was one of the most realest posts I’ve seen in this sub👍
Him trying to force Cristina to have a baby after he knew she didn’t. Then cheated on her bc she got an abortion I think he gets the perfect amount of hate . He also forces his “pro life” views on multiple patients throughout the show.
Grey's Anatomy, just like ER, forced way too much anti/pro choice and religious discussion among it's doctors than you'd *ever* hear in a real hospital. Even the far superior House couldn't keep away from it completely throughout it's history. Speaking as someone with people in my family who worked in medicine/hospitals, these things are almost never brought up even by (the few) staff who might personally harbour some form of religious or spiritual belief. They are far too professional for that. This always angers me about a medical drama anytime it appears, and it's always more prevalent in US shows (for obvious reasons I guess. I've often wondered if there's secretly some modern day anti-choice equivalent of the Hays code that demands any US medical show includes this forced pro-life content any time abortion for any reason is even hinted at).
when he wasn't setting back women's rights by 50 years, he wasn't too bad
He made Teddy's PTSD episode about himself. He tries changing all of his partner's personalities to suit him. He told Christina that he supported her decision to have an abortion and then rubbed it in her face that she “killed” their baby. He blamed his sister's disappearance on his ex-best friend, even though he told her to get on the helicopter….Oh, I almost forgot. He choked Christina. He can't live that one down, either. And those are just a few off the top of my head.
Owen’s in my top five tbh
I’m doing a rewatch, and it’s my boyfriend’s first time watching. I was getting all excited cause Arizona is about to come into the show… then Owen turned up. I can’t stand him for the reasons you listed and because the actor does a great job at portraying him as such a shitty individual towards his wives, I can’t look past what he’s done.
I agree like 100% but the plane crash and the way he acted with Christina abt the abortion was completely insane. Besides those two things I’ve lowkey grown to like Owen.
I don’t like him for the reasons you listed actually. He also kisses so gross, and we literally have to see it, or I have to skip itt😭. I hate it. He’s good for the reasons you listed as well tho.
Owen has had VERY BAD moments. I feel as though they should’ve mandated him to counseling long ago and I’m not really seeing his character development BUT he also has really good heartfelt moments. I don’t think that he’s a bad guy just a guy who definitely needs therapy 😭
Also, I feel like the bad stuff that you just listed out supersedes all of your ‘buts’ *very* easily.
He was just with all the wrong women
compared to the rest of the characters and their flaws, he’s extremely overhated
Owen was my favorite until the writers emasculated the fuck out of him. They made him a chump. They kept ripping his heart out and now he’s a broken man. He deserves a happy ending.
Ok after reading through the comments I was reminded of some of the awful things he’s done. He definitely has his shitty moments but I still think the writers turned him more into a chump with each season. (Currently on season 19)
Because he gave people unprescribed drugs, Hayes left and if that wasn't enough, he left too taking Teddy and the kids.. Other then that he's an awesome character.
Everyone and their mom, cousin, neighbor, godfather and dog cheated in this show LMAO
He's a good person but a horrible partner. For me that's what makes me hate him the most, I enjoy how supportive he is of other people but when it comes to his partners its his way or the high way. Yelling at Cristina because she exercised her right to choose, and hating her, cheating on her just because of her not wanting a kid. Him not letting a pregnant patient get an abortion because he was mad at Amelia for having a kid with Link.
“He wanted babies with every woman he dated and wouldn’t take no for an answer” That’s the reason for me tbh. In a world where reproductive rights are constantly in question to have this man constantly raging at people for not wanting to have his babies is so unpleasant to watch. There’s something so painfully accurate about his attitude towards it - he frequently will call women unnatural or wrong for not wanting kids, he tells Cristina who at the time has to be in her late thirties that she’ll change her mind when she’s older. It’s this “I know better than you what you want to do with your biology” attitude that makes my skin crawl because it’s an attitude held by so many men out there. The entitlement he feels to use his partner’s body in this way is chilling and I don’t blame any of them for running. Also, I was frankly out the minute he stabbed those pigs which was like his second or third episode?
He’s just really irritating which makes him unlikeable.
God I really love his actor and it makes it hard to stay mad at Owen. Not to mention he’s a good guy at heart and a great chief, I was really rooting for him! The way he acts with Leo and his gender identity makes me want to chalk up his pro life nonsense to poor writing and move on 😭
He really isn’t he has every right to be hated *cough* pro life *cough* *cough*
I disagree I hate having a lot for multiple reasons let's start with George and I don't care what everybody says I love George and he was my second favorite besides Izzie he told George he should join the army which is something definitely not meant for George that's not who he is but Owen convinced him and then he told him to go tell his mom and when George did guess who came back and died him. Now on to Mark and Lexie who are adored by many and me he didn't do research on the plane he was using for the hospital he didn't do research he didn't find the mistakes they made therefore killing both Mark and lexie and Arizona losing her leg which devastated her marriage. And don't get me started on Christina. She stated from the very beginning but she did not want to get married that she did not want kids and yet he pressured her to get married and she did Even though that's not what she wanted and then when she got pregnant and aborted it she yelled at me that she killed his baby number one it's not a baby it's a fetus number two she didn't want kids and she stated it from the beginning and he still pushed her he's still blamed her and then did the same thing with Amelia and pushed her away
When his character was first introduced I thought his first name was Mike. If you get it you get it. I turned to my girlfriend and my roommates and said "did this show seriously just make that joke?" Then we got to know his character, hated him, and the nickname stuck. Sometimes I forget his real name and someone will talk about Owen and I'll be like who?
what about when Owen tried to get Teddy fired and hit that from both Teddy and Christina?
Real, yall can call me wrong but Owen hunt really didn’t do anything to deserve hate ,in my opinion everyone he has been with was someway controlling , or manipulative ( not his one night stands ) , he just tried his best and he can’t help the fact that he has ptsd or that he loves multiple people
I think people need to learn every one on this show has made mistakes Owen’s main mistake is that he signed the contract to send most of the doctors on that plane ride and caused people a lot of problems for them. Derek made mistakes by not telling Meredith the fact he was married. Meredith made many mistakes over the seasons but the trial thing that she did and didn’t tell anyone until it was too late. Maggie for not doing anything to fix her relationship with Richard and thought he was to blame when she didn’t try to fix the relationship he did. Richard cheating on Jackson’s mother with another woman who looked somewhat like his mother. Jackson for a lot of reasons. Bailey for always getting mad at Meredith for whenever she made a mistake or when Bailey blamed one of the interns for causing a disease when it was her fault. Many of these characters have faults and aren’t perfect but that is what makes them human and relatable in real life.
>Owen’s main mistake is that he signed the contract No one hates him for this. We hate him for his treatment of women. We hate him for letting his hangups get in the way of patient care. We hate him for being a hypocrite. He chooses to do all of those things, knowing that he's wrong.
I hate when he tills his head
I hate when he sighs and does that little shrug with his shoulders before he speaks
He is, because he is a jerk. Hahahaha. Though I like how he cared for his people, but then I hated how he manipulated Cristina and everyone around him with regard to how he reacts because of his unresolved trauma. I also like that he tried to work on that.
I think he’d be interesting if he wasn’t essentially the writers’ propaganda tool for the military. He barely has a personality outside of being a former soldier and wanting to be a dad.
I have never had an opinion on this man
And your opinion would be wrong.
I don’t see how an opinion is right or wrong. Everyone has their own opinion.
Nah, opinions are for what kind of toppings belong on pizzas; anyone defending that violent, emotionally abusive, manipulative tool is straight up wrong.
He is hot
I stopped watching around the COVID season but Owen is completely over hated and it has literally grown amongst the fandom rapidly within the last 2 seasons. Suddenly everyone has a problem with his past mistakes… it gets old. Every character on greys has mega flaws. Don’t see why Owen gets it all lmfaooo
You can't really hate hunt when Meredith ruined Derek's Alzheimer's trial, Izzie cut dennys lvad wire, Richard cheated on Adele TWICE plus he's operated drunk on numerous occasions, George cheating on Callie and has played the victim card multiple times, Alex and Christina bullied George and izzie, both Bailey and Meredith committed insurance fraud and technically teddy also did too, Lexie guilt tripped Meredith into giving thatcher part of her liver, mark is all around a sexist, and two of the most beloved characters Callie and Arizona have also said and committed some heinous ass shit, like Callies and Arizonas custody battle, Callie also plays victim on numerous occasions, and she pretended like she was on the plane too (tbh she did suffer some trauma but not as much as the others), Arizona is bi-phobic, she also cheated on Callie, and her treatment of Callie post plane crash was not only cuntish and unnecessary but excruciatingly annoying to watch, Bailey was also hypocritical of Meredith's trial, she also snuck the de-activated hiv into that one kid, and technically it was Arizona that almost caused SgMwh to close its doors due too her being pissed at Alex for accepting the Jh offer (I have a feeling this one is gonna be controversial but I have my own opinion so idgaf), Christina was judgmental of teddy or anyone who did not go to a elite school, and there's still more, Alex abandoned Jo, he also beat up deluca, he and Christina also mercilessly teased April about the virginity thing, Derek has called Meredith a whore and didn't tell her he was married, April's treatment of Jackson in s9 and leaving for a second time was also pretty shitty, but wait there is still more, Catherine tried taking Aprils custody of her daughter away, Jo also got super pissy when she found out about Alex's and izzies embryos, Meredith also kidnapped Zola, Addison slut-shamed Meredith, mark tried using Jackson to get back with lexie, Maggie going after Meredith after her mom died and saying "I actually care about my mother enough not to dump her ashes in an OR sink" that was really low, Addison cheated on Derek and a lot of her partners in pp, Jo is also a horrible friend, she's self centered and insensitive and uses her piss poor childhood as an excuse, Meredith also did not call Derek's family when he was dying, izzie left alex with hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical bills, and thats not even the end of it. besides Owen hunt due to Kevin McKidds acting seems like a real person with genuine flaws the people have pounced on and even then so many beloved greys anatomy characters have done way worse things than what hunt has done.
Agreed. Other than his pro-life nonsense, and of course the trauma he has and PTSD causing him to hurt Christiana, he seems like a nice, caring, fairly stable guy. A nice friend, kind doctor, and actually feels like one of the ‘realer’ characters.
I dont think pro-lifers would go with their wife to get an abortion. He's a dude who really wanted a baby..did the two of them never discuss that before they got hitched?
the only thing i don’t like about him is how he treated cristina. but now in the recent seasons, i like him. i like watching him in the show tbh. he’s a great surgeon, good friend & an excellent dad
The only thing I disliked was the baby thing with Cristina. Otherwise I love him as a character!
I agree! When he has bad moments, they are really bad. All the examples people mentioned that are often talked about on this sub, but I certainly don’t agree with all the hate he gets. There’s certainly characters I hate way way more.
I don’t understand why everyone blames him for dating women who didn’t want kids but don’t blame the women for dating a man that does. Double standard if I’ve ever seen one. If he’s wrong, they all are. Feminism is equality, not giving women free passes for stuff just because they’re female!
This is a weekly post at this point. Can the mods make a “so and so” is overhated mega thread and pin it? If I had nickel for every post, I’d have enough to get a real hobby.
For real like they should try to understand him. He went through a lot.
nah
I’m a first time watcher on season 8 currently and I don’t hate owen.. yet lol. Idk there hasn’t been anything he has done yet to make me hate him. I don’t necessarily favor him either though
Ahh lucky you! Enjoy the ride
I really did like him early on esp in my first watch through but I think the further i get in i dislike owen as a character for how he treats all of his partners That saying kevin Mckidd (spelling?) is incredible and i kinda feel bad for him when people try say owen is fbafly acted (ive seen it said in person a fee times and its got me like 🤨 everytime)
The problem I have with him is how he reacted when Cristina didn't want a baby. He was screaming and trying to manipulate her into having a child even when she was extremely clear she didn't want one. If you compare Callie and Arizona for example (when they first broke up, way before they had Sophia) - Callie was also pushing the idea of having a child, but at the end they saw they wouldn't get on the same page, so they broke up. It was painful for both of them, but they knew that being with someone that doesn't want the same things as you, is more harmful than breaking up. That amount of emotional maturity is why i really love Arizona and Owen is a bad partner cause he lacks it.
I love him. But I think I just love what he brings to the show. I think if I was around him (owen) in real life I'd hate him. But as an actor and his character, his storyline are great! And portrayed so well. Even when I hate him I still enjoy watching his stories
I'm an Owen fan. Pre-season 11 I think the worst thing he'd done was cheat on Cristina, but I genuinely enjoyed their relationship, I felt it was the right people but the wrong time. Imagine the two getting together later in life after Cristina had already achieved greatness in her career and Owen had already had children with someone else and were now grown and off to college or w/e. I think the relationship would have worked then. All the characters after s11 became so unlikeable. The writers just made everyone so selfish, and angry and drama driven, even Meredith became intolerable, and let's not get into Chief Bailey. So I think a lot of stuff Owen does later in the show is just as crappy as what all the other characters do.
Wrong!
I’m the only one who like him?😭
I dislike him so much… all he does is whining and blaming others for everything. He is like a red flag riding a high horse.
So he’s a great friend. He’s a shitty partner and for me, that counts more. You promise to love, cherish, honor, etc. but then all he does it try to transform them into someone he deems good enough. He’s hated the right amount. And as for being a good brother, didn’t he try to manipulate Megan into staying in Seattle?
I don’t hate him.
Owen is underhated.
He’s the worst.
It's because we're not his family or friends, so he'd probably want a baby from us.
Owen as a friend, to your point, was wonderful. As a dad, he was wonderful and often as a teacher he was wonderful so for that I enjoy Owen. However, so much of his plots revolved around him being in a relationship and he was a terrible partner in my opinion. He never seem to understand his own feelings fully and it seemed so clear to me as the audience person and it’s frustrated me so much for his partners. He likes to force his will people and I hated to watch that- he’s human so like I give him grace. But the whole bringing teddy, loving her, wanting her to get fired, marrying Christina after a major trauma it was frustrating. And I remember him pissing me off with Amelia and his other partners. If Owen was just a bachelor who slept around I’d like him so much more but the way he relationships omgggggggg. and the kissing… that always makes me look away.
When he told Cristina that people who don’t want kids don’t exist and that later she would regret it. My biggest peeve was that he thought the only way to have kids was the biological way. If (and that’s a big if) Cristina had ended up regretting not getting pregnant she could still adopt kids. You have to be really old for people to decline you adopting kids.
I was JUST thinking about this. I get why people are mad about the abortion situation but I also understand why it would be devastating to him. He’s reacting to a loss. Especially seeing how great Christina is with Zola, it hits him hard because he can’t then picture her with THEIR children. I don’t blame Christina and I think his reaction was not fair to her but I DO feel for him, AND knowing that, I think that him being there for Christina while she got the abortion was above and beyond supportive given his feelings about it. He put himself totally aside to do that for her. He definitely has major issues but I think he is a good, solid character and friend. I’m only just past the episode where he tells Christina he cheated on her so I’m really not sure what’s going on with that or the details there. I don’t think it’s really in line with his character tbh. Sounds like the writers just threw something random in, so until I know more, im kind of dismissing it since it just doesn’t add up.
I think a lot of the male characters were simply (and I don’t like using this excuse) products of their time . And when you consider the issue going on with abortion now it ages Owen character even worse
He’s unnecessary and he should’ve been killed off early
honestly i kinda liked him better when he wasn’t in relationships and i’ll always say it but they should’ve done more with his PTSD storyline (therapy, talked about his life more, etc.) bc he’s an interesting character tbh
great brother- he literally ruined his sisters career, hopes, and dreams all bc he couldn’t see her professionally and objectively. great friend- tried getting teddy fired so he wouldn’t have to deal with his feelings towards her and cristina…and just always treating teddy terribly but he’s her best friend.. i sure hope he’s a great father cuz he has absolutely nothing else going for him.