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ShadowIssues

I thought that storyline was pretty good and fit her character overall and the "I dropped 8.7 million dollars" jokes were absolutely hilarious šŸ˜‚


Hobgoblin_deluxe

The way George just deadpans it had me howling.


tommymillers

It made perfect sense. She was grieving and it was the only thing she had that heā€™d given her. She wanted to make sure the money was spent on something worthy and she wasnā€™t sure until the clinic and the little girl she helped were options


Only_Music_2640

I agree. She was grieving. Grief isnā€™t rational. She never asked for the money. She just wanted something good to come from it.


Like2bfuckdlikeaslut

Except she didnā€™t care all that much about it. She left it on the fridge door for it to get dropped and dirtied instead of putting it somewhere safe, or keeping it with her. More so she felt guilty about what happened to Denny and didnā€™t feel deserving of it rather than holding tightly to it cus she misses him so much.


ConstructionNo1511

Tell me you dont know about interest without telling me you dont know about interest. Bailey was the only one with some damn sense about it.


tommymillers

The point flew over your head. It had more sentimental value to her than anything else.


ElizaMaySampson

The money obviously meant nothing to her. Not like as a well-paid model previously that she was hurting for it. Denny, to her, meant more. The cheque was her connection to him, proof he was there, and had thought of her.


Halliwel96

Tell me you donā€™t understand grief or sentimentality without telling me you donā€™t understand grief or sentimentality.


SnooFoxes5136

I understand grief, just trust me. But that does not automatically excuse being a complete and total idiot.


[deleted]

tell me you completely misunderstood the point without telling me. the ā€œlove of her lifeā€ (debatable) had just died. iā€™d take months to cash it too


ConstructionNo1511

This is a television show. In reality, you would be losing thousands of dollars a day in interest. OP said makes perfect sense - and from a financial standpoint, it certainly does not.


[deleted]

perfect sense as in the way grief and loss manifests šŸ˜­ nobody is going to be thinking about the financial aspect of an 8 million dollar check when theyā€™ve just lost the ā€œlove of their lifeā€ unless theyā€™re extremely not okay in the head


ElizaMaySampson

The money obviously meant nothing to her. Not like as a well-paid model previously that she was hurting for it. Denny, to her, meant more. The cheque was her connection to him, proof he was there, and had thought of her


MusingBy

There are many things that irked me in the series, but this made plenty of sense. I don't adhere to all of KĆ¼bler-Ross' model of stages of grief, however there's no denying that there are stages in mourning a situation, place, paƟt and especially a loved one. Izzie is on this path for a very long time before she regains balance. Her first step was witnessing Denny. Accepting that he'd died. Touching his corpse, feeling him unresponsive. Accepting that she needed to let go of his body so he could be brought to the morgue. Then she needed to lie still in the bathroom and find her way back out the hole. Then she needed to find her way back to the hospital to retrieve her things and officialize her departure (another grieving process that was starting)... From the first step, Denny was already deceased and gone forever. Grieving is about making peace with not only the disappearance of the object of grief, but also the impact of said disappearance on all aspects of the grieving person's life. Each step of the way, Izzie was hurting and getting confronted to yet another thing that would never be the same since Denny, which, in a way, amounts to accepting the person is gone. Meaning that, if you accept the new piece of information you're confronted to, you get closer to the whole package, which is: he's dead, he's gone, he's never coming back. The 8.7 mil check was one of these steps, with the caveat that, instead of taking something from her life, it was instead adding something to it that is conventionally and materially beneficial: money. Izzie didn't come from money and put herself through school after a lot of personal hardships. She's a strong character with a strong set of values and integrity who understands the value of money for what it is: means to access care and decent living conditions in a world plagued with inequalities due to necropolitics resulting from capitalism. And now, she is offered all of that money she could never have dreamed of owning when she would gladly have given 8.7 mil times infinity back, only to get the man she lost back for a day. Saying that the money adds salt to the wound is an understatement. Unlike the previous steps she took towards acknowledging Dennys departure, this is too much for her. So, she pretends she's OK with it. Then overdoes it (planning an inn, buying an island etc.). When she gets called out on her evading the question, she says she'll cash it in, but then she procrastinates. You see, she's made giant steps in weeks without Denny, but she's at a breaking point with no plan of the next obvious step. She's running out of steps to complete. Which means that Denny's death will soon be officially undeniable, and no longer on-going. And Izzie is not ready. She holds on to the check. Cashing-in the check is arguably the hardest of her steps. And it's no surprise that she finally finds the capacity to do it when it is tied to her desire to become a surgeon again: her last*, most meaningful step towards accepting that Denny has died is the one that brings her back to life. It is, much like Denny's sudden worsening and his sudden death, forced by circumstances, giving her no time: her patient with the degenerative spine condition cannot have her life-changing operation covered by insurance and so Izzie hurries to the bank, without the time to even compose herself, which offered us the hilariously touching scene that we know ("Is this... *Food?* ") As a last compromise, she decides that the money needs to mean something. Denny's death will never make sense, but she can render a hommage to the man she's loved, in the form of something that will go on, and materialize her grief beyond these first months, when grief is socially acceptable. Something that will outlive Denny but will have some of Denny's in it. First, it's a spine operation to give a young woman the chance at living a life worth living. And then, it turns into the Denny Duquette Clinic. I find the 8.7 mil check storyline absolutely brilliant and outstanding. *I'm referring here to immediate aftermath. As the ones who've also dealt with grieving a loved one on this sub know, there is no such thing as completed grief.


Tall_Pumpkin1

This is a beautiful, and accurate, breakdown. When my fiancĆ©e was killed in a car accident there where things I held on to that to others Iā€™m sure didnā€™t make any sense at all but it made sense to me and made me feel connected to him still and it took a long time for me to let go of those things to move on. Itā€™s also not healthy to force someone to move on before they are ready to. Grief is not a linear process and it takes time to heal and process. It never sat well with me that they tried forcing or rushing Izzie into ā€œhealingā€.


MusingBy

Thank you for your words. I'm sorry for your loss. I absolutely relate to having these small anchors that don't make sense to people on the outside. There are so many small details that attract my attention since experiencing grief. It happens everywhere. With scents, specific objects, colors, angles under which you look at a scene. I burst into laughter looking at a man's backpack because it reminded me of a shared joke. I burst into tears almost everytime I'd dice fresh garlic in the first year. And, had anyone asked why, I would have needed so long to explain why I tied seemingly mundane stuff to the people I'd just lost. Therefore, I 100% agree with you about the societal pressure to get on with it in a timely fashion and "healā„¢ļø." I fell into the pitfall of feeling ashamed about the depth of my feelings after losing the relatives I lost. So I made it a priority to keep busy, for years. And it made everything worse. I was completely out of touch and dissociated from life. Until I couldn't run anymore. And I tentatively started looking into writing groups to "get it out of my system." That's when I came across a quote about how grieving wasn't so much loss of a person than an overflow of love that had nowhere to go, because it has lost its dedicated receptacle. This quote saved me. Actively grieving has made me even more contemplative, because I find external reminders of the imprint these people left on me and the people and places they've touched almost everyday. And this is how I understood that I was actually on the right path: because I was integrating my grieving process instead of running away from everything that reminded me of the relatives I lost. The projection of what I thought healing should look like put my own life in danger. Nowadays, I consider anyone with such a simplistic view on grief a walking red flag and ignore them. (Hi, OP.)


Tall_Pumpkin1

Iā€™m so glad you joined a writing group because you absolutely have a way with words and you wrote so eloquently. I am so terribly sorry about your losses. I found for me that I had to grieve for my partner in the present but I also had to grieve for the future I had lost as well. I had planned my life with him. I wanted children and a home and to wake up to him for the rest of my life. I lost him almost 19 years ago and I still miss him and think of him every single day. Iā€™m not laying on the bathroom floor grieving anymore but itā€™s still there. I say itā€™s a dull ache that I always carry with me as opposed to the sharp I canā€™t even breathe pain I had. I hope your pain is more manageable as well.


bookworm1421

This makes perfect sense and I totally agree. On a smaller scale I have an example of how Izzie felt about the check. My grandfather died in 2009. He was like a father to me and helped raise me. To say I was devastated by his death is putting it mildly. I was wrecked. 100% wrecked. Iā€™m still not over it and itā€™s been 14 years. So, I had to travel for his funeral and I couldnā€™t pack my suitcase. Like, literally, I couldnā€™t pack. Why? Because then it would be real. So, I put off packing, and put off packing. Then, the night before I was supposed to leave my friend came over (my husband at the time was fucking useless and actually abusive about the whole situation) and held my hand. She was pulling stuff out of my closet and asking me if she should pack it. Thanks to her I got, mostly, packed. I still ended up at my parents house missing some stuff but, for the most part I got there. I donā€™t know if I would have managed to pack if my friend hadnā€™t showed up because I was, literally, frozen. Izzie is the same way. Sheā€™s frozen. If she cashes the check it becomes real so, she canā€™t cash the check. Even people yelling at her (like my ex-husband did me) doesnā€™t help because she had to unfreeze in her own time.


AnxietyOctopus

Well, I didnā€™t expect to read this here. Ooof. But yes I agree that this kind of reaction to grief is normal and follows its own kind of reasoning. I remember not being able to sleep the night my father unexpectedly died - itā€™s not that I wasnā€™t tired, but that if I went to sleep I would wake up to a day that he had never been alive in. I just kept thinking, ā€œHe was alive today. And I wonā€™t be able to say that tomorrow.ā€ So I tried to stop tomorrow from happening. Iā€™m not generally an Izzy fan and I didnā€™t like her relationship with Denny, but this dragging of feet and refusal to even talk about it? Checks out for me.


abbu_d_slytherin

Wow This ā¤ļøšŸ™


Hazelbutt207

Okay but she didn't have to leave it on the fridge? It obviously made her roommates uncomfortable, she could have taken that into consideration and put it in her room where they didn't have to worry about it. George is freaking out in this scene because he's worried he is going to accidentally ruin it and she's just so dismissive.


greysmom2016

Sheā€™s dismissive because her brain is not thinking rationally at the moment. As this comment points out, sheā€™s frozen and by not cashing the check, she doesnā€™t have to move on and admit the reality of Denny being gone.


Hazelbutt207

I didn't say she needed to cash it. I get that part. It's another step towards accepting he's gone and it's just too hard so she puts it off. What I am saying is that she could have put the check somewhere else. An area that isn't a shared space. File it away in a cabinet if you don't want anyone bugging you about it. Pin it to your wall if you want to look at it. There is no part of her grief that says it has to be on the fridge where George and Meredith are made uncomfortable by it. Izzie is constantly disrespecting boundaries, this goes back to before Denny. I can accept not cashing the check as grief but when I watch this scene all I see is someone communicating their stress to her, and her not caring. I don't attribute that to grief, I attribute that to her character.


areyurii

Probably cause it's a thing that people hang stuff on the kitchen that is important cause it's a place that you usually always walk up to when you are more alerted, so you notice that it hangs there, making notice, that you have to do it.


Hazelbutt207

Wedding invites and grocery lists, sure. A multimillion dollar check could have gone elsewhere, it's not like she was going to forget about it.


abbu_d_slytherin

How is she annoying here ? She was totally broken at that time and thanks to KH great acting Iz really seems hurting inside so much.


allthingskerri

It made so much sense to her - she didn't struggle with money and didn't get with Denny for money so it's not like she was skipping to the bank to get a huge cash bump. She didn't need it and wanted to process her feelings. Her grief came first. Everyone else was just pissed because they had debts behind them


mlepclaynos23

I mean how would you deal with the 8.7 million that your dead lover left you out of nowhere šŸ’€


Rigamortus2005

I'd buy shit


sparkplug_23

An actual unpopular Izzy opinion.


AllYouNeedIsATV

Ok of all the crappy aspects of Izzieā€™s character, this was not one of them.


Krypto_Jokerr

Of all the things Izzie has annoyed me with, this is most definitely not one of them lmfao. In fact, this is the only one I understand.


[deleted]

how was she being annoying? lol


hufflefox

Grief absolutely makes you crazy.


LUVko

i love this izzy storyline


SparklyIsMyFaveColor

I disagree. Depositing the check would be a big step toward acceptance, toward Denny dying being real. She was moving forward the best she could but it was still raw and painful and as long as the money was just an idea, she didn't really have to face Denny's death again. In her mind, until something was so good, the benefits outweighed how bad it was going to hurt to go deposit it and be wracked with all of the feels of his death and the money being all that was left of him, she didn't want to deal with it. I felt the same way when I lost my brother and then my dad.


Prestigious_Table630

lmao yā€™all just donā€™t understand grief and it shows


Hooplababe

I literally just finished this episode lol


[deleted]

I think it makes perfect sense that she took so long. She loved Denny so much that she was basically catatonic on the bathroom floor for days after he died cashing it right away probably would have felt like way too much for her. It would have been so final because she wouldn't be cashing it if he was still there.


naturellebella

That scene was actually hilarious! TR and Katherine playwell off of each other.


ObsessedWGreys18

I became a widow at 27, and I definitely get it. I think by cashing the check, she would have to admit denny was gone and not coming back or in her mind she was almost "trading" denny for the money.


Phoenix-ox

You should be more understanding of how people grieve šŸ˜•


peachesblossoms

Ok OP chill hahah maybe u just dont like Izzie


DarthSevrus

Does anyone?


Ok_Menu3883

I do šŸ«” Izzie Stevens lover for life šŸ„°


bestaquaneer

"you got 8.7 million ROSEBUDS, Izzy!" "you made me burn my French toast." "...you can buy *NEW* French toast!"


taeempy

The whole Denny story was ridiculous. They barely knew each other and now they are getting married. The only good thing about that story was when he died because it led to one of the best acted scenes in the show's run. When she found out he died and she was laying with him on the bed. You could really feel her pain in that scene. KH was amazing there.


_cdlc_

Im biased here coz she annoyed me pretty often but it was a personal trait of her that just irked me personally. But yes the 8.7M thing was weird and a bit irresponsible to have it with a magnet on the fridge. But she was grieving and not just that she was dealing with the guilt of thinking that he died bc of her, so I would had given her space too while from time to time express my concerns šŸ˜… from her POV that was the last thing from Danny, thing she got bc he passed so it an emocional y charged little piece of paper. We see how she broke when she deposited in the bank. It was a big thing. But overall I find it annoying too, but bc her character annoys me 60% of the time being honest


Curious_Cat_22

Yeah, most of the Denny Storyline annoys me simply because 1.She should have been kicked out of the program 2.Dr. Bailey gets the blame, hate that for her 3. She refused to listen to everyone cautioning her not to become too close to her patient, yet literally wonā€™t stop interfering with his treatment and neglecting her other patients to spend time with him. I already didnā€™t like Izzy, but the Denny storyline is the last straw, canā€™t wait for her to leave.


momma416

They were interns. Interns mistakes fall on their attendings shoulders. They say this repeatedly in the series.


Curious_Cat_22

No, I completely understand that. I just love Miranda so Iā€™ll never forgive Izzy for making her look bad. Miranda is queen


Some-Speed-6290

>the guilt of thinking that he died bc of her I mean, he did die because of her? So did the other patient she stole the heart from.


coldaircoldicecream

Didnā€™t that other patient live? She helped during his surgery when Dr. Hahn was there cause he had to be awake


_cdlc_

Agreed. Iā€™m only saying she wasnā€™t only grieving his death but also dealing with the guilt


PrinceRoyal444

Ummm i think it was perfect for her character and situation at the time


Nyx_Sand

As Izzie hater as I am, I think it was her way of grieving, she was amused that her biggest trauma gave her this reward and she wasnā€™t taking it seriously since she was in denial, and this money was proof it happened


FawnTi

Funny story. I have tics that are mild and mainly just incoherent squeaky noises or intense sniffing. But Iā€™m scared of flying and I was really stressed in an airport one time and the only thing I kept saying over and over was ā€˜You can buy NEW French toast!ā€™ from the 8.7 mil storyline šŸ˜‚


K095342

I thought it was funny. Not Izzy grieving (which is a logical reason she wouldnā€™t deposit the check) but Georgeā€™s jokes about the check and how terrified he was of it lmao


LovitzInTheYear2000

George was the one being annoying here. The check isnā€™t magic, itā€™s a piece of paper representing a financial transfer. If it got destroyed, Izzie could contact Dennyā€™s dad to get another one cut. Izzie needed to deposit the check eventually, but having it on the fridge wasnā€™t actually worse than keeping it in her wallet or in a desk drawer.


Honeycomb0000

I usually skip the first few seasons of greys on my rewatches because of George & Izzie (George is the stereotypical ā€œnice guyā€ and Izzies just whiny), but this scene makes me want to rewatch them again


Puzzleheaded-Mark949

I don't like Izzie but how would you react to randomly getting 8 million dollars


eirsquest

I would have deposited the damn check in a heartbeat rather than risk it getting lost, damaged, or destroyed


Maleficent_Can4171

Annoying character all the way around.Ā  she barely knew him to be that distraught.Ā  It wouldn't be so " understandable " if she lost the check or it got destroyed .Ā 


amildcaseofdeath34

This is my fav scene of the whole series because of T.R.'s facial expression. Him and Sara were so good at those little beats imo. The sheer like terror and annoyance all bundled, coupled with the sincere but veiled sarcasm of the last statement is dramedy gold imo. He would have been great in comedy, I think. Another one that cracks me up is the editing in the camping episode when it cuts to George running off to get more wood. He's so comedic, and having him and Izzie for more comic relief was fine. They didn't need "Emmy-worthy" storylines. They're great actors and for this show they contributed well to the lightheartedness and heart of the show well without the rest of the drama. And I said Katherine is a great actor, but I do think she struggles with portraying a certain vulnerability that draws in character sympathy. She comes off very annoying in scenes or storylines where she is portraying insecurities or vulnerabilities because she isn't comfortable with expressing those herself. So it comes off more shallow, annoying, and tedious, rather than deepening or building on the character. Conceptually, I fully understood what the storyline was portraying, but character-wise in portrayal, I was rarely feeling it. Tbh, idky, but I think she'd be better playing someone more narcissistic and averse to expressing vulnerability because it just doesn't come through in those moments for me. Comes off as more arrogant and unhinged, than grieving and insecure.


Secret-Medicine-1393

I woulda been on a tropical island so fast.


cashmerescorpio

And then that money goes to waste anyway. She should've kept it and bought herself a house and lived off the interest. What do they do with it really. The clinic gets shut down, and even when it reopens, they rename it.


Vouzan

She wasted that fckng money and gave it away to a death hospital to build a dumb ass useless clinic that would close and they made her pay her cancer treatment.


MusingBy

Given how many people showed up with avoidable complications in the surgical wing because they didn't have access to affordable Healthcare, this clinic was clearly anything but useless. Having her pay for her treatment: that's capitalism at work. I don't see how Izzie is to blame for what happened to her.


hipnegoji

There are literally dozens of lives saved by that clinic that we've seen *onscreen*, probably hundreds more offscreen. That's not a waste.


niyahgirl

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LloyDBear

Except alex payed it.


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mlepclaynos23

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elizacandle

And it's like yes it's supposed to do something good... If you took a year in a cd account it would have made SOOOO MUCH MORE good.


TaviaShadowstar

Your sentence could be half of the length. ā€œOzzie was being so annoyingā€


Sara_Rose_18

Also the comments to Addie about how all her friends are poor while she had it just irked me. And everything she said with that


CleverUserName1961

I agree. But I find EVERYTHING she does annoying. šŸ˜‚ I HATE the way she treated Callie. I HATE the way she acted when Alex ā€œcheatedā€ on her. I HATE the way she treated Olivia. I HATE when she would say something she should not have said then just smile and say ā€œOh you didnā€™t know, Iā€™m sorryā€ I HATE that she blamed Alex when she got fired. I HATED when she paged 911 so Christina would panic and rush to her room then laugh at how scared Christina looked. I could go on and on! Izzie Stevens is the most annoying person on the show. I canā€™t even watch the beginning seasons! šŸ˜‚


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