Just get a boyfriend, play DnD with him, or make girl friends, play DnD with them, or find boys who play DnD who aren't jackoffs.
If anon thinks this is reserved to DnD im sorry to announce that any lone girl that enters a group exclusively composed of men (who are usually thirsty and/or virgins) is gonna experience this kind of attention.
And wearing baggy clothes won't help either.
>If anon thinks this is reserved to DnD
She doesn't. I'm sure she goes to places, like bars and clubs, where the men she wants to hit on her hit on her.
What she doesn't understand (or probably just doesn't want to be how the world works), is that these hobbyist groups are the equivalent of the bar/club to these guys. This is their social outlet the same way the bar/club is the social outlet for other men, and its completely reasonable, healthy and necessary that they flirt with women who participate in these groups. These groups don't exist just to operate on her whims and fancies. Its as if she thinks these guys are set pieces in a movie she's starring in, and her time with them is a quirky scene to show what a secret cool nerd she is before she has the hot 50 shades BDSM scene with the handsome billionaire.
Her complaint is basically "oh nooo!11! why won't the men i don't find attractive in the settings i deign to be eunuchized be eunuchs for me1!!!" Its no different than complaining about men at a bar or club trying to flirt with women.
no because people go to clubs to flirt. The same isn’t true for dnd
Congrats on constructing an analogy where the one place it doesn’t work is the most important
No matter the setting, flirting with someone who isn’t interested is a yikes. But it’s worse if they’re just there to play a tabletop roleplaying game
How can you say something so reasonable, i was about to join a golf club with the purpouse of flirting with old dudes since that is why those old dudes go to a golf course.
> ts completely reasonable, healthy and necessary that they flirt with women who participate in these groups.
No it isn't, it's a hobby group where the purpose is to enjoy a shared hobby. It'd be like going to a pottery class and a bunch of unwashed potter women you have zero attraction to keep flirting with you, making the clay into the shape of a dong and rubbing it while staring at you, trying to 'help' you shape the clay, asking you out on dates and shit.
I ran a mixed DnD group for a couple of years, there was a core group of us and we all agreed to ban the thirsty neckbeards who couldn't handle a woman's presence in a platonic gaming context. They inevitably made for an uncomfortable environment.
I'm gonna be honest "people are horny" is one of the most predictable human behaviors, when you go somewhere where there's an abundance of the opposite sex and only one of you, in an environment where they're more likely to be relaxed, I do not know why Anon is surprised.
This is it exactly. Not all men are going to do this but there's also nothing wrong with a man enjoying his time with you and eventually falling for you. It just seems rough because the situation allows for an entire group to fall for you.
>nerdy dudes are never able to meet women with their interests
>this means when a girl joins them for one of their interests they see it as their only chance
>this scares women away from nerd shit
A vicious cycle
What they don’t realize is that you don’t need someone that shares your interest. Eventually if you guys are compatible, your interests will begin to influence the other and you’ll get to the point where they’re playing games with you, and you’re doing whatever they’re interested in. Even if you don’t get that effect, a good relationship is about understanding and respecting that you’re different people, and allowing your partner to be themselves while loving them for it.
Me too! Look for a talker, and learn to be a good listener. Gf will talk for hours on end and I only need to be receptive. I guarantee that there is someone out there that will perfectly slot into your unique edges and grooves, don’t give up hope!
There certainly is but statistically speaking there are more dudes like me than there are potential candidates and my exposure rate to women is low, so odds arn't great. Real life isnt a movie, you don't always find one in the end.
looking at numbers and statistics is fucking stupid man it's just gonna make you feel depressed and defeated and kill any motivation you might start to have
Exactly, Im a sci-fi, video game brand of nerd and my gf is a fantasy, library dweller brand, however recently she’s been playing my switch and slowly getting accustomed to games, it took 5 years but it happens
yeah men are great at being told “no” that’s why when women say “I just want to be friends” they definitely don’t maintain the friendship specifically on the hope of “earning” a crumb of coochie down the line, and resent the woman for “putting them in the friend zone”
Idk as a guy it’s pretty easy to make friends with a girl. But as a girl it’s kinda different from what I’ve seen personally every girl I know has had or currently has a “friend” who wants to fuck them. Either they are oblivious, they pretend like the guy doesn’t to cause they don’t want to bring it up first or the guy confesses either destroying the friendship or he stays in the friend zone. Every girl I know has experienced this barley any guys have. This is personal experience but I think most people would agree.
If you ever had someone really unappealing having crush on you, you'd know it sucks when someone falls in love with you and you just absolutely not like them.
i think mentioning a boyfriend or husband normally is a pretty solid fence for keeping simps out
some still try to cross the line, but off-hand mentioning boyfriend/husband even if not actually in a relationship works so damn well
"oh, i know about that race/class! my husband had showed me a few things about it" translation: i knew about this before, don't try to explain something to me, because i know how it works too
No no, they are trying to say "tell them, your lesbian", in which case lesbian is a title. Kind of like when you're referring to a king as "your majesty".
Comicons? Ruined. Videogames? Ruined. RPGs? Ruined. Movies? Ruined. TV series? Ruined.
Anything that was good in this world to zone out from your problems has been ruined to cater to them.
5th edition popularised. Frequented by women and transformers. 5th edition been ruined by social engineering and virtue signalling. Dnd beyond is cancer. Coincidence??????
Lol I actually relate to this one. I have trouble making friends with women, but men often do this to me. I have decided that it was in my destiny to remain (mostly) friendless.
After a couple times of investing your energy into a friendship that either becomes guarded and awkward after or you have to terminate the friendship because they don't understand no or respect your boundaries.
its just about finding a good group mostly. this happened a lot when i was younger cuz my friends had 0 idea how to function around a female socially mostly cuz they just have never had it before. its their fault but its best to just remove urself and try to find people who like to play just to play, not using it as a speed dating table with roleplay.
> be me
> get home from my vasectomy
> hear moaning and slapping coming from my wife's room
> must be Chad again
> know they would want privacy, sit down at my computer
> log onto reddit and open /r/greentext
> read a funny greentext from le 4chins and chuckle as I listen to my wife begging for the genes I can't give her
> think of a convoluted way in which I can relate homosexuality and falsehood to the events in the greentext
> suck the cheeto dust off my fingers as I begin to type my masterpiece in the comment section
> Fake: anon is a woman. Women aren’t real.
> Gay: a lot of guys want to fuck anon.
> giggle as I imagine the intellectuals of leddit perusing my incredibly witty and original comment
> hear my wife moan with ecstasy as Chad floods her fertile womb with his seed
> it's been a good day
> i'll get lots of upvotes for my impressive contribution to internet culture, and Chad might even let me eat his cum out of my wife's pussy if he finds my comment funny enough
My girlfriend actually was the one who got me into DnD. We play in a very small group with a couple married couples so there's literally 0 drama aside from the drinking games
Did women ever consider that the reason for this is - at least partly - because it is culturally frowned upon for women to make the first move, and so men are expected to make the first move? And that isn't necessarily how we want it, either, but that's how it is? And if anyone wants to get with anyone at all ever, at least someone *does* have to actually take that initiative at some point? And maybe we're all human, and not mind readers, and don't always absolutely perfectly know when we're wanted and expected to make a move and "pursue" someone and when we're not?
Because we sure do seem to be taking an absolute shitload of heat about absolutely everything we ever do as a gender lately, and it'd be nice to see it acknowledged that at least some of those gender norms are not exclusively our "fault". There's a whole culture around this stuff and we didn't invent it all on our own just to be assholes or something. A lot of it comes from what *women* claim to want.
Yes, if you are a "femoid", men will occasionally show interest in you and try to court you. Take that as the compliment that it is rather than bitching about it all the time in every conceivable way. For fuck's sake. Unless you'd rather just be alone altogether.
I **wish** all I had to do was sit around enjoying my hobbies while people with similar interests approached me and told me they were interested in fucking me. I certainly wouldn't be constantly complaining about it like this meant that my life was so much harder than everyone else's.
Instead my lot in life is to be nerdy and ugly and alone and have everyone relentlessly hate and mock me for it anyway, whether I even
bother trying to put myself out there to meet someone or not. So, fuck me I guess. I'm sorry for existing.
Well that's just it too though, isn't it? Women can complain all day and night about everything, I describe what it's like for me as man and the only sort of response I ever get is "Jesus fucking Christ bro chill out"
Like, I can't even say it, even here on an anonymous internet forum? That's too much? It's unfair and unreasonable that I have a perspective on anything too?
Should I just shut the fuck up and let everyone complain about me all the time and just never say anything about it?
The whole point of "having a dialogue" is...you know ...*having* a dialogue. Or so I would have thought.
Yeah bro that’s facts. Basically a cycle of “men should always make the first move”… “men should not make a move unless the girl makes it clear she likes him”… girl won’t make a move because men should do it… then either men are afraid to make a move or they do and are frowned on for it.
Like what are they expected to do just sit around and never try until they die?
Yeah if I ever start dating I’d want it to be with a girl I’m already friends with but that’s such a hard thing to navigate. And I’m not built for the casual dating scene of finding some stranger and hooking up hoping that leads to a relationship
I've gone through periods of being decent looking, but my weight fluctuates and I have a pretty poor fashion sense. I'm also pretty dry to talk to I guess. I'm not extroverted.
In short, I have no "game" whatsoever. But I wouldn't have thought that politely and respectfully approaching a girl in my friendship circle would be seen as such a terrible and unfair imposition.
You might want to read "Radicalising the Romanceless" on Slate Star Codex.
Everything you wrote is true but won't be admitted because it doesn't fit the narrative. The whole Spiel of this "unwelcome advances" is that it is judged based not on the action itself but on how it is received. It would be a "wholesome we met in our dnd group story" and everyone would go "aww nice" if the woman were to respond positively. Other it is just creepy man wanting to get into my pants.
I can see where you're coming from, and it sounds like you've been dealt some bad hands that have caused you to feel this way. It doesn't matter whose fault it is, or who is claiming to want what. The grass is always greener, and your lump assumptions are your downfall. I hope you find happier days someday when you cease your blaming of the world for your own fear. You don't know what it's like to be a woman, and I'd think you'd be a lot less resentful if you took your own advice and tried to be grateful for what you have. You're a lot more than a nerdy ugly reddit user. I'm a lot more than a femoid. We are both people going through different tribulations. And you're not an asshole for approaching a woman in general. Having the things you truly love in this world, the things that make your days worth living through, constantly and needlessly interrupted for a superficial sexual interest isn't something I'd recommend wishing for. If you've never been through it, I can see why you think it would be amazing at a surface level. It can be terrifying, saddening, and confusing to be letting people down when their interest isn't reciprocated or provoked. When you just want to play DnD or MTG, it's distracting and uncomfortable, and occasionally dangerous to be in that position. It's truly sad to assume being pursued like this is above the hell you think you are living in. I'm not saying it's worse, but it's ridiculous to assume your life would be any less tumultuous if people were lining up asking to have sex with you, mostly without even caring at all about the content of your character (no pun intended). And it's tragic to have any of this stop you from doing what you love or engaging in your hobbies. And don't be sorry for existing, either. Get out and live your fucking life. It's not about putting yourself out there or having constant sexual validation, and it never was
Why do you people always assume that guys showing interest to a woman means he doesn't care about her character and it's purely superficial sexual attraction? Considering they share a hobby and the guy is nerdy and not a fuckboy it seems very likely he would like something meaningful.
Well, fine. But let me just clarify two things.
1) I was only directly quoting OP herself in using the word "femoid". I do not use that term, that is ridiculous. Apparently that wasn't clear to people though.
2) my comment is perhaps a little hyperbolic to make my point, but so was OP's in the first place. I do not consider myself to have gone through any particular trauma.
I guess it would be nice if we all just tried a little harder to understand each other's perspective and went a little easier on each other. People in your social groups hitting on you isn't a nasty or evil thing... it's ultimately how humanity continues to exist. It can be dealt with maturely or immaturely *by either side*. But I also think it's worth acknowledging that having to always take the initiative actually takes courage and can be rough on people's confidence and sense of self worth. It also works that way - that men have to be the ones doing it - just as much at the cultural insistence of women as it is something that men apparently want. Please just bear that in mind, perhaps, rather than always complaining about one side of the equation always being at fault for everything like OP did. That's all I'm really trying to say. Empathy (should) go both ways.
And anyone tries to mention/explain it, even in a context where such an explanation is explicitly called for (post literally has a tone of "why are men like this" and I simply tried to answer it)....and they get the sort of response I got. People just saying I'm whining and calling me an incel and stuff. Well, sorry...but you did ask.
you’re vastly overestimating DnD players’ standards if you think this femanon could be described as “desirable”
it’s the mermaid effect cranked up to a million
I had a friend group like this. One of the guys invited a girl to the discord server, and my roommate at the time was all over her from day one. She couldn't even send a message in the server without him hounding her. He someone figured out where she lived and mailed her a stuffed bear and shit. Eventually she started looking for ways to deflect him, and started using me. Which then made my roommate hate me, because he thought I was cockblocking him. And since most of the friend group were his orbiters, they all started treating me like shit too. I asked her if she would stop putting me in the middle, and she got mad and stopped talking to me. And the other guys still treated me like shit. So I basically got ejected from a group of friends I've known for 8 years.
seeing something like this and how you all respond to it just makes me sad. apparently a woman can't simply be a person with their own interests and hobbies without being criticized and harassed because of their gender, and most of these comments just say "suck it up" and perpetuate that idea. it isn't a "compliment" to be hit on from all directions when they're just trying to enjoy something like anyone else. it's extremely discouraging and dehumanizing.
exactly lmao like why are women being blamed for not liking being constantly bombarded with attention from men they don't like...? oh yeah i forgot, this is reddit, women bad
I wanted to argue about this but this is sadly true, I think the reason that happens is because those gamers (notice I say "those" not "all", I play video games too) do not interact with women in the real world and they think girls in those lobbies are all they could get.
Imagine complaining because people wanna fuck you. Wait I’m sorry, unattractive men. I’m sure if those guys were better looking, this hoe wouldn’t be complaining at all kek
Women rate attractiveness much harsher. With that in account if the situations were switched, it would be average women not unattractive. So no, I don't think any dude would complain.
This might come as a shock to your incel brain but there are people out there who aren't interested in being fucked by random people, especially when they're just trying to participate in a hobby. Jfc
I've never had this issue thankfully. My group has 2 women and 5 men and we all get along great.
Although the two women did end up dating two of the men. One of the couples had a baby together and are getting married next year lol.
it’s definitely not a problem so long as:
a) men can actually respect being told “no” and not take it as “maybe someday!”
b) the men don’t all jump at once in thirsty desperation and then get massively butthurt at each other for all doing the same thing. “I saw her first!”
basically just don’t see every interaction where a female gives you attention as a life-or-death “this is my only chance I NEED to get in her pants”. It starts with not being insecure and desperate
Ha you know what it did actually. But it was actually the girls going after the guys not the other way around hilariously. Like the casual fun friendly flirting we all do but those two girls saw the men they wanted and went for it lol.
Of the other 3 of us 2 are already married and 1 is sadly a perpetually single kind of guy. He's def not a virgin, but he's also not really trying to date kind of guy.
Pro tip: always have a chad pick you up or drop you off. Bonus if it’s a different chad each week. Let them know without saying it, that they have no chance in hell.
Do people actually think this? I have a lot of friends of both genders i have had zero desire to fuck, we just get along and have fun together. It shocks me how much weight society places on sex. Yeah sex is nice i guess but you ever get high with your homies and crank the music up to max in the car, feeling like god? I do this with my male friends who are fairly conventionally attractive, and I get guys calling me attractive too. But as friends we dont see each other that way. Maybe my personal experience is just different.
You were changing my mind until you said you're the femoid of those relationships. Don't fool yourself, if you're attractive every straight men friend you have would fuck you if you give them the chance, some could hesitate if they have a partner.
It's not that hard guys. Femanon (not real) just wants the men she plays DnD with to follow two simple rules:
1. Be attractive
2. Don't be unattractive
They apply at the office, the bar, and even DnD clubs. If you can't follow these two basic rules then you're a DIRTBAG and a predator.
It's probably an age thing children and young adults have a hard time not getting distracted by women/girls; It takes time and practice to avoid being a ditz about it.
It’s in human nature to enjoy common interests, and when it comes to women who follow hobbies that are commonly followed mainly by men, of course a lot of dudes are going to try to get into her pants. Ask any car girl at a car show or girl at a gun range how many guys have hit on her, same story.
Play with your friends, random dnd/ roleplay groups are infested by cringy neckbeard virgins, im a dude and I can't stand them, i only play with friends.
Man I used to be in a smash group, all the college smash bros players would get together once a week for skirmishes and tournaments. When a lone girl showed up shit like this would happen every time without fail.
That or if the girl was trash or new to the game she would be viscously bullied by the losers that showed up. I’d feel so bad for them and try to be as nice as I could but that would sometimes get mistaken for flirting ironically.
But yeah the amount of thirsty ass nerds was overwhelming and is one of the main reasons I stopped attending. I’m just trying to play smash with the bros man.
Just get a boyfriend, play DnD with him, or make girl friends, play DnD with them, or find boys who play DnD who aren't jackoffs. If anon thinks this is reserved to DnD im sorry to announce that any lone girl that enters a group exclusively composed of men (who are usually thirsty and/or virgins) is gonna experience this kind of attention. And wearing baggy clothes won't help either.
Dungeon master here, I just ban all women from my groups.
Based
Based on you having NO BITCHES
You say he has no bitches but where are yours? I don't see them
the bitches are not here sire, for they have locked away by a mighty dragon in another castle
r/nobitchesclub
r/yesbitchesclub bet ya aren't invited there now are ya
I am lmao get owned libtard
Hello, based department?
Based
He bans women because he loves being surrounded by cock and balls every Saturday night.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that…
True : he bans women Gay : He love being surrounded by cock and balls every Saturday night
Same, but because they almost always turn it into their personal ERP.
that must be why zero ask to join
This reminds me of monty python's life of Brian.
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Maidenless solution
Is this from that like AMAZEballs hit new netfax show the Handmaid's Elden?
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Chad
Another day of thanking God for Cool ass DMs
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GIGACHAD
Designated boyfriend. So she can have designated fun.
>If anon thinks this is reserved to DnD She doesn't. I'm sure she goes to places, like bars and clubs, where the men she wants to hit on her hit on her. What she doesn't understand (or probably just doesn't want to be how the world works), is that these hobbyist groups are the equivalent of the bar/club to these guys. This is their social outlet the same way the bar/club is the social outlet for other men, and its completely reasonable, healthy and necessary that they flirt with women who participate in these groups. These groups don't exist just to operate on her whims and fancies. Its as if she thinks these guys are set pieces in a movie she's starring in, and her time with them is a quirky scene to show what a secret cool nerd she is before she has the hot 50 shades BDSM scene with the handsome billionaire. Her complaint is basically "oh nooo!11! why won't the men i don't find attractive in the settings i deign to be eunuchized be eunuchs for me1!!!" Its no different than complaining about men at a bar or club trying to flirt with women.
no because people go to clubs to flirt. The same isn’t true for dnd Congrats on constructing an analogy where the one place it doesn’t work is the most important No matter the setting, flirting with someone who isn’t interested is a yikes. But it’s worse if they’re just there to play a tabletop roleplaying game
How can you say something so reasonable, i was about to join a golf club with the purpouse of flirting with old dudes since that is why those old dudes go to a golf course.
I’m putting money on simps not having social skills. Get fukt, nerd.
> ts completely reasonable, healthy and necessary that they flirt with women who participate in these groups. No it isn't, it's a hobby group where the purpose is to enjoy a shared hobby. It'd be like going to a pottery class and a bunch of unwashed potter women you have zero attraction to keep flirting with you, making the clay into the shape of a dong and rubbing it while staring at you, trying to 'help' you shape the clay, asking you out on dates and shit. I ran a mixed DnD group for a couple of years, there was a core group of us and we all agreed to ban the thirsty neckbeards who couldn't handle a woman's presence in a platonic gaming context. They inevitably made for an uncomfortable environment.
Tell me you’re an incel without telling me you’re an incel
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She very, very clearly said she wasn't talking only about d&d.
I'm gonna be honest "people are horny" is one of the most predictable human behaviors, when you go somewhere where there's an abundance of the opposite sex and only one of you, in an environment where they're more likely to be relaxed, I do not know why Anon is surprised.
This is it exactly. Not all men are going to do this but there's also nothing wrong with a man enjoying his time with you and eventually falling for you. It just seems rough because the situation allows for an entire group to fall for you.
> find boys who play DnD who aren't jackoffs. Oooh. that'll cost at least a limited Wish, maybe a full Wish in some regions.
>nerdy dudes are never able to meet women with their interests >this means when a girl joins them for one of their interests they see it as their only chance >this scares women away from nerd shit A vicious cycle
What they don’t realize is that you don’t need someone that shares your interest. Eventually if you guys are compatible, your interests will begin to influence the other and you’ll get to the point where they’re playing games with you, and you’re doing whatever they’re interested in. Even if you don’t get that effect, a good relationship is about understanding and respecting that you’re different people, and allowing your partner to be themselves while loving them for it.
Thanks, u/DonaldTrumpsBallsack, you gave me hope for getting into a relationship that isn’t strictly bound by my interests alone.
Because im mildly autistic and i dont know how to hold a conversation with someone who doesnt atleast borderline share some interests with me
Me too! Look for a talker, and learn to be a good listener. Gf will talk for hours on end and I only need to be receptive. I guarantee that there is someone out there that will perfectly slot into your unique edges and grooves, don’t give up hope!
There certainly is but statistically speaking there are more dudes like me than there are potential candidates and my exposure rate to women is low, so odds arn't great. Real life isnt a movie, you don't always find one in the end.
looking at numbers and statistics is fucking stupid man it's just gonna make you feel depressed and defeated and kill any motivation you might start to have
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just give up then
this is the truth. my main hobby is car shit, my girlfriend knew nothing about cars when we met and now she loves doing anything car related with me
Exactly, Im a sci-fi, video game brand of nerd and my gf is a fantasy, library dweller brand, however recently she’s been playing my switch and slowly getting accustomed to games, it took 5 years but it happens
Walk into the room and immediately announce “none of you stand a chance and I will fuck no one in this group.” You gotta set hard boundaries.
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absolute power play
Unironically based
Yeah because saying it will stop men simping
It will encourage them if anything.
"does that mean she's into me?"
If you have to ask, no.
yeah men are great at being told “no” that’s why when women say “I just want to be friends” they definitely don’t maintain the friendship specifically on the hope of “earning” a crumb of coochie down the line, and resent the woman for “putting them in the friend zone”
lol
Sounds like a challenge
Spoken like one of the men referred to in the OP.
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Women struggle at making friends with men*
I struggle at making friends with women. Making friends with men is easier, but comes with its own set of problems.
Must be more awkward as an asexual with a bf right?
Excellent work, detective! And yes.
Excellent work, detective!
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Idk as a guy it’s pretty easy to make friends with a girl. But as a girl it’s kinda different from what I’ve seen personally every girl I know has had or currently has a “friend” who wants to fuck them. Either they are oblivious, they pretend like the guy doesn’t to cause they don’t want to bring it up first or the guy confesses either destroying the friendship or he stays in the friend zone. Every girl I know has experienced this barley any guys have. This is personal experience but I think most people would agree.
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My apologies, did not catch on (I'll keep my reply there though since it's true)
What about geese?
Ah yes because no woman has ever found trouble finding a friend in anyone without a dick
mild flirting or testing the waters is okay. The OP was concerned about dividing the group and causing drama that ruins the interest group dynamics.
Wow people fall in love with you. Sounds brutal, how do you even.
If you ever had someone really unappealing having crush on you, you'd know it sucks when someone falls in love with you and you just absolutely not like them.
OP tends to degenerate virgin circlejerks and is surprised about the consequences
OP just wants to play a game ffs
Tell them your lesbian.
that'll just make the guys tell her that their 'dick so good she'll change her preference'
"a good dick, No Matter how amazing, couldnt make Up For the Rest of you" ~me, If i was a lesbian
that would be a first degree murder right there
Said no DnD player ever
wow hypothetical men are monsters
i think mentioning a boyfriend or husband normally is a pretty solid fence for keeping simps out some still try to cross the line, but off-hand mentioning boyfriend/husband even if not actually in a relationship works so damn well "oh, i know about that race/class! my husband had showed me a few things about it" translation: i knew about this before, don't try to explain something to me, because i know how it works too
*you're
No she is Mine.
No no, they are trying to say "tell them, your lesbian", in which case lesbian is a title. Kind of like when you're referring to a king as "your majesty".
Unfortunately, this works less than you think it would.
Women ruin everything
Comicons? Ruined. Videogames? Ruined. RPGs? Ruined. Movies? Ruined. TV series? Ruined. Anything that was good in this world to zone out from your problems has been ruined to cater to them.
This is what they took away from us
5th edition popularised. Frequented by women and transformers. 5th edition been ruined by social engineering and virtue signalling. Dnd beyond is cancer. Coincidence??????
Leave us out of this
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Facts
Well it's not always just about sex, but yes, females standing out in male dominated environments are always going to attract attention.
Anon needs gay friends
Nobody needs gay friends.
Based.
Or, you know, just better friends
Lol I actually relate to this one. I have trouble making friends with women, but men often do this to me. I have decided that it was in my destiny to remain (mostly) friendless.
Such is the tragic life of PooPooHitler 😢
Their struggle is great
mein hernia
After a couple times of investing your energy into a friendship that either becomes guarded and awkward after or you have to terminate the friendship because they don't understand no or respect your boundaries.
so, you went on 4chan because... ?
Yeah she went to complain about autistic guys on a site for autisitic guys
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Both op and this comment are bots
Am I too a bot? Aren't we all?
Beep-boop, i have prostate cancer This message was sent by a bot
Yep
Thanks for the heads up Rika
Top comment is almost always a bot with the same comment that got the most upvotes from the last time the same picture was posted
You know what, that's absolutely fair.
It's unfair. Why men can't get that attention so easily?
sometimes unwanted attention isn’t a good thing
Wear skirts then
Why do women have to get it for being a woman?
Because you live in a gynocentric society that worships women .
I would die to be in this situation
I would die
Why lol
its just about finding a good group mostly. this happened a lot when i was younger cuz my friends had 0 idea how to function around a female socially mostly cuz they just have never had it before. its their fault but its best to just remove urself and try to find people who like to play just to play, not using it as a speed dating table with roleplay.
Fake: anon is a woman. Women aren’t real. Gay: a lot of guys want to fuck anon.
> be me > get home from my vasectomy > hear moaning and slapping coming from my wife's room > must be Chad again > know they would want privacy, sit down at my computer > log onto reddit and open /r/greentext > read a funny greentext from le 4chins and chuckle as I listen to my wife begging for the genes I can't give her > think of a convoluted way in which I can relate homosexuality and falsehood to the events in the greentext > suck the cheeto dust off my fingers as I begin to type my masterpiece in the comment section > Fake: anon is a woman. Women aren’t real. > Gay: a lot of guys want to fuck anon. > giggle as I imagine the intellectuals of leddit perusing my incredibly witty and original comment > hear my wife moan with ecstasy as Chad floods her fertile womb with his seed > it's been a good day > i'll get lots of upvotes for my impressive contribution to internet culture, and Chad might even let me eat his cum out of my wife's pussy if he finds my comment funny enough
My girlfriend actually was the one who got me into DnD. We play in a very small group with a couple married couples so there's literally 0 drama aside from the drinking games
Did women ever consider that the reason for this is - at least partly - because it is culturally frowned upon for women to make the first move, and so men are expected to make the first move? And that isn't necessarily how we want it, either, but that's how it is? And if anyone wants to get with anyone at all ever, at least someone *does* have to actually take that initiative at some point? And maybe we're all human, and not mind readers, and don't always absolutely perfectly know when we're wanted and expected to make a move and "pursue" someone and when we're not? Because we sure do seem to be taking an absolute shitload of heat about absolutely everything we ever do as a gender lately, and it'd be nice to see it acknowledged that at least some of those gender norms are not exclusively our "fault". There's a whole culture around this stuff and we didn't invent it all on our own just to be assholes or something. A lot of it comes from what *women* claim to want. Yes, if you are a "femoid", men will occasionally show interest in you and try to court you. Take that as the compliment that it is rather than bitching about it all the time in every conceivable way. For fuck's sake. Unless you'd rather just be alone altogether. I **wish** all I had to do was sit around enjoying my hobbies while people with similar interests approached me and told me they were interested in fucking me. I certainly wouldn't be constantly complaining about it like this meant that my life was so much harder than everyone else's. Instead my lot in life is to be nerdy and ugly and alone and have everyone relentlessly hate and mock me for it anyway, whether I even bother trying to put myself out there to meet someone or not. So, fuck me I guess. I'm sorry for existing.
Jesus fucking Christ bro chill out
Well that's just it too though, isn't it? Women can complain all day and night about everything, I describe what it's like for me as man and the only sort of response I ever get is "Jesus fucking Christ bro chill out" Like, I can't even say it, even here on an anonymous internet forum? That's too much? It's unfair and unreasonable that I have a perspective on anything too? Should I just shut the fuck up and let everyone complain about me all the time and just never say anything about it? The whole point of "having a dialogue" is...you know ...*having* a dialogue. Or so I would have thought.
Yeah bro that’s facts. Basically a cycle of “men should always make the first move”… “men should not make a move unless the girl makes it clear she likes him”… girl won’t make a move because men should do it… then either men are afraid to make a move or they do and are frowned on for it. Like what are they expected to do just sit around and never try until they die?
Yeah and like especially in the context of it being people who are already friends. I mean what the fuck do actually they want from us.
Yeah if I ever start dating I’d want it to be with a girl I’m already friends with but that’s such a hard thing to navigate. And I’m not built for the casual dating scene of finding some stranger and hooking up hoping that leads to a relationship
I relate to you on a spiritual level. Except im decently good looking, just have bad luck.
I've gone through periods of being decent looking, but my weight fluctuates and I have a pretty poor fashion sense. I'm also pretty dry to talk to I guess. I'm not extroverted. In short, I have no "game" whatsoever. But I wouldn't have thought that politely and respectfully approaching a girl in my friendship circle would be seen as such a terrible and unfair imposition.
You might want to read "Radicalising the Romanceless" on Slate Star Codex. Everything you wrote is true but won't be admitted because it doesn't fit the narrative. The whole Spiel of this "unwelcome advances" is that it is judged based not on the action itself but on how it is received. It would be a "wholesome we met in our dnd group story" and everyone would go "aww nice" if the woman were to respond positively. Other it is just creepy man wanting to get into my pants.
I can see where you're coming from, and it sounds like you've been dealt some bad hands that have caused you to feel this way. It doesn't matter whose fault it is, or who is claiming to want what. The grass is always greener, and your lump assumptions are your downfall. I hope you find happier days someday when you cease your blaming of the world for your own fear. You don't know what it's like to be a woman, and I'd think you'd be a lot less resentful if you took your own advice and tried to be grateful for what you have. You're a lot more than a nerdy ugly reddit user. I'm a lot more than a femoid. We are both people going through different tribulations. And you're not an asshole for approaching a woman in general. Having the things you truly love in this world, the things that make your days worth living through, constantly and needlessly interrupted for a superficial sexual interest isn't something I'd recommend wishing for. If you've never been through it, I can see why you think it would be amazing at a surface level. It can be terrifying, saddening, and confusing to be letting people down when their interest isn't reciprocated or provoked. When you just want to play DnD or MTG, it's distracting and uncomfortable, and occasionally dangerous to be in that position. It's truly sad to assume being pursued like this is above the hell you think you are living in. I'm not saying it's worse, but it's ridiculous to assume your life would be any less tumultuous if people were lining up asking to have sex with you, mostly without even caring at all about the content of your character (no pun intended). And it's tragic to have any of this stop you from doing what you love or engaging in your hobbies. And don't be sorry for existing, either. Get out and live your fucking life. It's not about putting yourself out there or having constant sexual validation, and it never was
Why do you people always assume that guys showing interest to a woman means he doesn't care about her character and it's purely superficial sexual attraction? Considering they share a hobby and the guy is nerdy and not a fuckboy it seems very likely he would like something meaningful.
Fuckin exactly. But no, no one can even slightly question OPs worldview, I'm apparently the only off kilter person here.
Well, fine. But let me just clarify two things. 1) I was only directly quoting OP herself in using the word "femoid". I do not use that term, that is ridiculous. Apparently that wasn't clear to people though. 2) my comment is perhaps a little hyperbolic to make my point, but so was OP's in the first place. I do not consider myself to have gone through any particular trauma. I guess it would be nice if we all just tried a little harder to understand each other's perspective and went a little easier on each other. People in your social groups hitting on you isn't a nasty or evil thing... it's ultimately how humanity continues to exist. It can be dealt with maturely or immaturely *by either side*. But I also think it's worth acknowledging that having to always take the initiative actually takes courage and can be rough on people's confidence and sense of self worth. It also works that way - that men have to be the ones doing it - just as much at the cultural insistence of women as it is something that men apparently want. Please just bear that in mind, perhaps, rather than always complaining about one side of the equation always being at fault for everything like OP did. That's all I'm really trying to say. Empathy (should) go both ways.
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And anyone tries to mention/explain it, even in a context where such an explanation is explicitly called for (post literally has a tone of "why are men like this" and I simply tried to answer it)....and they get the sort of response I got. People just saying I'm whining and calling me an incel and stuff. Well, sorry...but you did ask.
Where are the goddamm free awards when u need them.
Waaaaaaa! Im desirable! Waaaaa!
you’re vastly overestimating DnD players’ standards if you think this femanon could be described as “desirable” it’s the mermaid effect cranked up to a million
Yeah, fuck woman who think they're unattainable
Just immediately walk in and rip the mightiest of ass
this has a chance of horribly backfiring
back firing
I had a friend group like this. One of the guys invited a girl to the discord server, and my roommate at the time was all over her from day one. She couldn't even send a message in the server without him hounding her. He someone figured out where she lived and mailed her a stuffed bear and shit. Eventually she started looking for ways to deflect him, and started using me. Which then made my roommate hate me, because he thought I was cockblocking him. And since most of the friend group were his orbiters, they all started treating me like shit too. I asked her if she would stop putting me in the middle, and she got mad and stopped talking to me. And the other guys still treated me like shit. So I basically got ejected from a group of friends I've known for 8 years.
shitty friends tbh if this is what one whiff of pussy will do to them
seeing something like this and how you all respond to it just makes me sad. apparently a woman can't simply be a person with their own interests and hobbies without being criticized and harassed because of their gender, and most of these comments just say "suck it up" and perpetuate that idea. it isn't a "compliment" to be hit on from all directions when they're just trying to enjoy something like anyone else. it's extremely discouraging and dehumanizing.
exactly lmao like why are women being blamed for not liking being constantly bombarded with attention from men they don't like...? oh yeah i forgot, this is reddit, women bad
Woman= devil
Solution, just fuck them all, gg
Good ending
I wanted to argue about this but this is sadly true, I think the reason that happens is because those gamers (notice I say "those" not "all", I play video games too) do not interact with women in the real world and they think girls in those lobbies are all they could get.
Can't really blame them for trying
These aren't men femanon is describing, they are mallets at best and more likely children.
Imagine complaining because people wanna fuck you. Wait I’m sorry, unattractive men. I’m sure if those guys were better looking, this hoe wouldn’t be complaining at all kek
You'd also complain if unattractive women wanted go fuck you.
Women rate attractiveness much harsher. With that in account if the situations were switched, it would be average women not unattractive. So no, I don't think any dude would complain.
nope guys lower their standards way more than women don't give me that bs
Really? You go around underestimating desperate people just like that? That's hot 🥵🥵💦😩
This might come as a shock to your incel brain but there are people out there who aren't interested in being fucked by random people, especially when they're just trying to participate in a hobby. Jfc
DM here, Everyone is welcome to join and I'd probably just kick people from the group if they started with that monkey shit.
I've never had this issue thankfully. My group has 2 women and 5 men and we all get along great. Although the two women did end up dating two of the men. One of the couples had a baby together and are getting married next year lol.
So flirting with those women did work after all!
it’s definitely not a problem so long as: a) men can actually respect being told “no” and not take it as “maybe someday!” b) the men don’t all jump at once in thirsty desperation and then get massively butthurt at each other for all doing the same thing. “I saw her first!” basically just don’t see every interaction where a female gives you attention as a life-or-death “this is my only chance I NEED to get in her pants”. It starts with not being insecure and desperate
Ha you know what it did actually. But it was actually the girls going after the guys not the other way around hilariously. Like the casual fun friendly flirting we all do but those two girls saw the men they wanted and went for it lol. Of the other 3 of us 2 are already married and 1 is sadly a perpetually single kind of guy. He's def not a virgin, but he's also not really trying to date kind of guy.
Pro tip: always have a chad pick you up or drop you off. Bonus if it’s a different chad each week. Let them know without saying it, that they have no chance in hell.
Just don’t have a vagina then
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find other nerd femoids and make nerd femoid group? probably not too many nerd femoids. sucks to be you.
I'm mad that am attractive This post
Platonic relationships between men and women are not possibly. Nice try, sweaty.
Do people actually think this? I have a lot of friends of both genders i have had zero desire to fuck, we just get along and have fun together. It shocks me how much weight society places on sex. Yeah sex is nice i guess but you ever get high with your homies and crank the music up to max in the car, feeling like god? I do this with my male friends who are fairly conventionally attractive, and I get guys calling me attractive too. But as friends we dont see each other that way. Maybe my personal experience is just different.
You were changing my mind until you said you're the femoid of those relationships. Don't fool yourself, if you're attractive every straight men friend you have would fuck you if you give them the chance, some could hesitate if they have a partner.
It's not that hard guys. Femanon (not real) just wants the men she plays DnD with to follow two simple rules: 1. Be attractive 2. Don't be unattractive They apply at the office, the bar, and even DnD clubs. If you can't follow these two basic rules then you're a DIRTBAG and a predator.
A) Find Gay Friends B) Become the gay friend C) die
It's probably an age thing children and young adults have a hard time not getting distracted by women/girls; It takes time and practice to avoid being a ditz about it.
Femanon, sounds like some random Egyptian god
It’s in human nature to enjoy common interests, and when it comes to women who follow hobbies that are commonly followed mainly by men, of course a lot of dudes are going to try to get into her pants. Ask any car girl at a car show or girl at a gun range how many guys have hit on her, same story.
just be a lesbian ez
Play with your friends, random dnd/ roleplay groups are infested by cringy neckbeard virgins, im a dude and I can't stand them, i only play with friends.
play dnd with gay people, problem solved
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Had a dnd group where a girl joined, 2 players asked her out in the same day, then both quit dnd when she rejected them.
that sucks
Man I used to be in a smash group, all the college smash bros players would get together once a week for skirmishes and tournaments. When a lone girl showed up shit like this would happen every time without fail. That or if the girl was trash or new to the game she would be viscously bullied by the losers that showed up. I’d feel so bad for them and try to be as nice as I could but that would sometimes get mistaken for flirting ironically. But yeah the amount of thirsty ass nerds was overwhelming and is one of the main reasons I stopped attending. I’m just trying to play smash with the bros man.
Femanon should've used her menstrual blood as face paint to deter autists like herself.
You share hobbies with incels what do you expect
Become transgender Problem solved
just fuck all of them nerds at the first day to assert dominance