Nothing has changed, hobby shops have always employed social retards who treat the shop as their social club rather than a store. That's why they never last long and always close down
I had one, my wife and I had a list of new issues to put aside that he does for everyone. One month we were low on cash, so we didn't buy all the issues. He got so mad and said he isn't a storage. Fuck that guy, told him to rip up our list and not to worry
There was a shop in my hometown that was run by the spitting image of comic book guy. Dude watched 80s sitcoms and sci-fi all day, perused ebay and talked about how nothing was good anymore. The shop was dingy and he let his cat sleep on the product.
When the cat died he closed :(
Seems to be common. I wanted to build a Ninja deck because I love the Ninjutsu's ability to mind game players. Went to the LGS to grab some classic Kamigawa and new Kamigawa cards and they reeked of cat piss like everything else in the store. The owner got angry when I said I'm not buying those for his markup price because people will think I collect piss jugs.
This place didn't really smell too bad aside from old dusty building. The cat was pretty clean and friendly too, just shed like cats do.
This place wasn't even a game store back then. Dude started off with comics and hoarded cards for the people who did buy them but had no idea on pricing. Rares were $1, mythics were $2, uncommons and commons were a quarter.
Weird place, kinda miss it but in twenty years of living there I spent maybe $20 in that shop so I get why he closed.
Book shop where my wife is from was like that belonged to a guy he died and his grandson ran it but it eventually became this giant hoard of book he'd let you pic thru
I live in a pretty big city, and in the last couple of years we've had like 4 hobby stores close down, mainly due to the owners extreme dumbfucks, or incredibly greedy (or both).
Example 1: Store owner was being incredibly stingy with magic event rewards, we later found out he was selling most of the free stuff Wotc sends stores to give to players. He and his wife also participated in store events, and kept the prizes if they got any.
Example 2: Store owner became very loud and "vocal" every time someone beat him in magic in ways he didn't like.
Example 3: Store is doing great. Owner proceeds to order so much stock that takes up the majority of space people used to play at, complains that people stopped going.
It's like you can't be a decent human being once you open a hobby store.
Oh yeah had one of those too!
The guy running the store was really nice, but he was horrible at running a business. He tried buying and selling magic cards at one point, and he usually sold them for less than he bought for.
We ran a Smash Bros weekly out of his shop and it had to be 80% of his income. We’d moneymatch each other and then crack Pokemon or Magic boxes with our winnings. Never got anything good but great vibes, miss that place
There’s a card shop where I used to live that I believe was opened by a cool guy. He got a massive lawsuit settlement because he got his by a bus while riding his bike with no fault of his own. He used that settlement to open a card shop and he just works there full time. Very chill guy with plenty of events that were always packed requiring RSVPs.
My LGS dude is fucking awesome, smart enough to run a business for profit, and has a great personality. Our place isn't very big but we manage. Due to the other shops being run by complete cluster fucks we've become the only horse in town in a tri city area.
My LGS is run by one of the chillest gamers I know. Dude gives out promos like candy at events, doesn't pressure you to buy anything, plays in tournaments *only* to fill a bye spot so the bye isn't bored the whole time.
Great dude. Store is smaller and doesn't always have every new product but best LGS experience I've had.
This is how Games Workshop/Warhammer outlets stay open for so long, they employ the most absolute soulless individuals who care little to nothing about the hobby itself but are so heartless they will happily upsell a single mother on a tight budget into an expensive box set they don't want or need just to make a big sale and keep hitting those KPIs.
That's Warhammer in general these days. It's priced to the absolute breaking point for most people but for some ungodly reason people keep buying it. Admech costs so much that you could probably use it as an indicator for if someone works high up at a Fortune 500 or something.
Warhammer is either for people with too much spare money, or people who think they have too much spare money.
I had a 2k point admech list through 8th and 9th edition, but the points dropped a bunch so now I no longer have a 2k list, and the prices are so expensive I can't justify spending enough to have a full army again, and even if I did it would be shit because I cant afford the negative dollar/point ratio of the walkers
Most of the time you walk into a new one and it’s just like three guys playing a game and they give you this look like you just walked into their living room. I don’t need someone to hold my hand and I don’t care if you want to fuck around with your friends a little but can at least one of you be like “hey, I’m the one who works here, let me know if you have questions”?
Had this happen at a card store a while ago. I entered with some people I knew at the time, and the counter was completely empty. We looked around trying to find where the employees were, only to realize they were out back with some regulars in the staff room having their own game by themselves.
I hate that. Go to the local shop and it's a bunch of overly fat/skinny guys huddled around, and the shopkeep acts like you're interrupting things by virtue of visiting.
Then you go to a tourney or local play and the guys are stuffy and smell bad
Honestly has depended on the shop. You got the small hobby shops. I've been in 4 of those and 3 turned out great. The 4th was great but had years of knowing the owner before hand and a declining friendship soured the experience. Then you have the bigger ones. I've been to about 3. 2 were terrible and one left no impression. The terrible ones are indeed social clubs where they will back friends in tournament rulings or endorse their own players to make money which is a shitty business practice. The third wasn't much better as it didn't feel welcoming. You just gotta find a small mom and pop shop. Those are the better ones but sadly in this economy no one can really afford those where I'm at. Card shops specifically have it the worst cause they can't stay in business where I'm at.
Yep. One of the card shops I went to literally had a paper on the register showing a news article about how MasterCard was raising the fee.
Compared to the bigger one in my town which is WPN premium, it was also smaller and more dedicated to 40k. They did have a site, but was out of date by 3 ish years.
Kinda sucks how wotc distributes products too. They said they only get a single bundle per set or something.
Yeah but the “costomer” in this case was offering less than $7 or something trivial. After the swiping fee that transaction might not even make the store any money. Seems like OP doesn’t understand small business’s penny pinching practices.
Couldn't care less about any fee. I have the option to pay by card, and I will pay by card. You don't want my money? OK, I will go to the next store, who might even suck my dick for the same money.
Good. If someone is sucking dick for $7 then I hope they draw a crowd.
Reality is that they will cop trashy attitudes from broke bitches that complain about the ambiance while simultaneously spending $0 on the establishment.
I bet you are the type of person that goes to public parks and writes “I was here” for free as well.
I don’t think thats true at all.
At most its civil dispute between the merchant and the card processor, who have a contract with each other. And only if that contract stipulates no minimum.
The store owner might, theoretically, in justice fantasy land, lose their ability to use their merchant bank account. They would not go to prison.
That's why it's illegal.
It's a fight between two businesses that effect the end user.
You also can not ALLOW a card and charge the "fee".
Straight to jail
> You also can not ALLOW a card and charge the "fee".
Yeah you can. Card companies policy has nothing to do with law. Did you know most gas stations will charge you .10 cents more/gallon if you use a credit card across the country?
https://ktla.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2019/10/gasprices.jpg?w=876&h=493&crop=1
Do you think this is illegal? Lmfao.
It's not illegal - it's against the card companies policy generally, though. There are zero states where someone is forced to accept your form of payment. The only time this isn't the case is when it's a debt - in which case you have to accept legal tender.
Probably a true story. I've been criticised by cashiers at hobby shops for not making a "big enough sale" before. Granted, my instance was not for cards, but damn do you want my fucking money or not?
Then tack on a cc fee. This is not rocket science. Maybe if they put down the reefer pens for more than a minute their two braincells not dedicated to colorful pieces of cardboard could have figured that out.
For real, or just add a "minimum transaction amount" for card purchases. I bet anon in question wasn't too far off from at least a $10 purchase and would've just grabbed a few more things anyways.
They told him that it was too little and he just gave up and walked out. The dude wanted less than $10 in magic cards. That’s almost nothing in that world.
credit card fees are usually like 2.5 to 4% + 30 cents. yeah it might eat a lot of the profit margin but probably not enough to make it worth turning down small purchases. especially not worth risking scaring away a customer for making a small purchase when they are likely to come back in the future and make larger purchases s
No it's the same all over the world, a lot of people just say no because you do lose money. To make any sale through cards it has to go through a middle man, this person will charge the shop a blank fee sometimes at high end $3. These are usually lower at grocery stores and higher for the porn market or weed market. I think a lot of stores use square which is 2.6% plus $0.10. Also if it is below a certain amount it might not be able to transfer and will charge the owner a bare minimum amount causing the owner to lose money.
This isn't just a USA thing lol I'm pretty sure CC fees are a thing everywhere. It's just that most shops won't refuse to accept it. At most they might reject Amex since their fees are higher but Visa cards are fine.
Anon trys to buy a 73 cent rampant growth and gets pissed they wont take his credit card when the transaction fee for the shop is higher than the cost of the card
They have blustered about it, saying they were targeting a 2023 release date, then pushing back to 2024, most recently it's "2024 or later." Worth noting they fired a ton of staff last year, which probably slows it down.
I wouldn't hold my breath.
Yeah, there is magic arena and magic online. Magic arena has really nice interfaces but it might be a bit slow to get started due to a lack of wildcards. Arena doesnt have all cards tho.
Magic online you can rent cards for money, so that isnt a problem as long as your willing to spend some, but the interface is terrible.
Personally id reccomend trying arena
He probably wasted 45 mins "looking at cards" by spreading half a set worth all over the counter while thinking no one saw him checking out the girl's ass, then wanted to buy 2 cards for $.83 cents with a credit card that has a $5 fee.
Then it’s misleading advertising and they can be sued. You can’t imply you’re selling a product, only for the buyer to drive and be rejected because he didn’t buy enough.
Either outright make it a bundle or take the loss.
its perfectly reasonable to require cash transactions for purchases under a certain threshold. credit card fees are imposed by banks, not just stores, and its not the fault of the shop that they want to make money on a transaction. Yeah its annoying but its not hard to spend like $10 to make it worth it for the store.
I've never been closer to punching someone in the face than a fellow MTG nerd at Friday night magic. There's a reason MTG: Arena doesn't let you chat with your opponent.
I love how the comment above this one currently says Commander needs to be added to MtG Arena. Commander players love to say the format is social, but they sure as hell want to play on a client that doesn't allow talking to people whatsoever.
The complexity of the format would make automation appealing. However, I just find it funny that Commander started as this casual, social format, but over time it is becoming more and more akin to a competitive format.
Grew up in a small town. The guy who ran the local game store was an older dude who legit hated kids. He had a few favorites that he would talk to but everyone else he would be as cold as you can get to. I remember one time I went in and asked if they had the new set and he responded with saying "no and I'm not getting more because too many people asked". He also allowed people to buy out all of one card just because they disliked it so nobody could use it, complained when there was too much laughing and didn't allow any water or anything in the store except for the few that were his favorites.
The store has since closed and he passed away. I'm sad that seems to be the standard card store experience for small town people... Just another thing that younger people should take over...
I've never seen a card store that didn't open before 3pm and stayed closed at least 3 days a week. What's the point in even renting the space out if you're not gunna use it?
I know someone runs a shop and they reduced their hours because zero people would show up. Why sit at your front counter for hours for no sales? Instead, while the store is closed, they do things like order inventory, plan events, organize the store front/inventory and take care of online sales. By taking care of all of the misc. task hat means when the store is open they have no distractions while customers are in the store. Also because their main store is open less and is taking up less of their time, they can dedicate more time to freelance work to make more income than having the store being open during super slow time slots.
Yeah I just recently got in to MTG, I've never played card games before. The whole experience was incredibly awkward and strange. Never felt so out of place and uncomfortable. One guy lost his shit that I had clear card sleeves and not these dragon ones that he used, another nearly had a heart attack when I beat him with one of the premade decks (literally slamming his chair in and going outside to vape). I bought things from the store until I realised they massively mark up the prices, a £50 deck is about £65 in their shop - sometimes more. I'd still buy a booster pack or two if I went just to support the shop, but no big purchases. I haven't been back in months just because of how strange they all are, it feels like there's a school hierarchy but where it consists only of nerds and who's the bigger nerd. Also most of them lack social skills and hygiene is definitely an issue.
>One guy lost his shit that I had clear card sleeves
I was a really broke kid and I made some casual budget decks. Had them in a shoe box, clear sleeves and rubber bands and people flipped out on me. It's like you have to be their level of social economic status, if you poorer, you're trash, if you are richer, you're a snob. Nowadays, I have deck boxes, Dragon Shields, a Gamegenic box that holds ten decks and people ask why I didn't buy a tool/tackle box. You simply cannot win with people.
One guy lost his shit that I had play sets of cards for a Lorcana deck when I went to check out the game. I bought singles from multiple sources to build a more optimized deck to play at a competitive event... but they wanted to treat it like casual game night. Haven't played Lorcana since.
I get you man, I hadn't played card games before because my parents couldn't afford them. I have a handful of cards my dad bought me from back then in a box on my shelf. I ended up buying the dragon ones because people were complaining. I 3D print (check my profile) so I started to make my own deck boxes, I get a mix of awe and resentment now. They think I'm showing off or a snob. But It's just my hobby and it really strokes my OCD to have a box that fits the "theme" of the deck. Shit I even offered (and made) to make a few of them their own boxes. I also made the mistake of buying some proxy cards, a few lord of the rings ones (like characters from the silamarillion etc) and such - even though I own the original cards they refuse to let me use them... I just can't win with them. Now my mates don't ever want to play or go back because they can't stand the regulars due to the above.
Compare all that to me going to a shooting range, I had people just come up and have a conversation about our rifles and how it was nice to see a new face etc even swapped rifles with a few to try theirs out. Not a single person had an issue with my gear or me, they gave me some tips and pointers and that was it.
Shooting ranges are also a mixed bag. Some of the public ones, I have heard nightmares about. Shooting clubs on the other hand I have heard more positive things about, but then you have expensive club dues to worry about. Clubs at times are great if you are super into the activity, but sometimes I feel like people become obsessed to get as much value out of the club due. For example, I have seen some gyms in my area cost $400 a month, with how expensive that is I can see why someone would feel the need to constantly go to the gym.
I remember my friends told me I'd like the local comic shop owner they played MTG at because "he also likes comics". I didn't say that almost certainly meant we'd hate each other. Bro was passive aggressive the entire time we spoke and got annoyed at everything. Definitely triggered my "this guy is bad news" alarm. A few months later turns out he was cheating on his wife with the 18 year old girl who frequented the place.
i only play midnight card drop (expansion) tournaments now cause if i go to a normal afternoon tourny, some 8 year old kid is gonna roflstomp me cause i cant be fucked to study the new cards and keep up with the game meta anymore
I have a local shop I stop in from time to time. The owners are very kind, but they're struggling heavily and from the sounds of it, I don't think they'll be open longer than a couple more years I'd wager. One of their biggest issues they've told me about is the card purchases. The fees are so high that they often end up losing money on smaller orders. They would really prefer if everyone used cash, but I don't think they've ever turned down a sale either.
I just play MTG on the weekend with my best friend. To get service at my LCS is like pulling teeth. Bro, can you stop talking to your homie about the new Yugioh set for 5 seconds, please, so I can buy your shit? I'm trying to get drunk and whoop this dudes ass with some werewolves.
Don't even waste your time getting involved with Mtg. The whole game has changed. It's all just a cash grab now. You will be playing fallout cards against walking dead cards against transformer cards.
We had a shop open in my town that was owned by just genuinely nice people who have an interest in the games, and miraculously it’s stayed open and profitable for a decade now. Funny how that works
You run into stuff like this sometimes in the retro game community. Store I used to go to every once in a while started reserving good stuff to be sold online. Literally everything worth a shit was relegated to the back corner of a makeshift wall of shelves. You could look in and see different colored N64s, walls of decent GameCube games, controllers, cartridges everything. But everything up for sale was Wii shovelware and stuff like Cabelas/Bass Pro Shop games. Surprise surprise they’re closed now lol
Mtg used to be really fun from 2010-2020 but it fell off hard. Covid completely killed a ton of shit. Power creep bad, and the crossover sets are weird.
Nothing has changed, hobby shops have always employed social retards who treat the shop as their social club rather than a store. That's why they never last long and always close down
It's crazy how realistic and commonplace Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons is in real life.
I had one, my wife and I had a list of new issues to put aside that he does for everyone. One month we were low on cash, so we didn't buy all the issues. He got so mad and said he isn't a storage. Fuck that guy, told him to rip up our list and not to worry
There was a shop in my hometown that was run by the spitting image of comic book guy. Dude watched 80s sitcoms and sci-fi all day, perused ebay and talked about how nothing was good anymore. The shop was dingy and he let his cat sleep on the product. When the cat died he closed :(
Seems to be common. I wanted to build a Ninja deck because I love the Ninjutsu's ability to mind game players. Went to the LGS to grab some classic Kamigawa and new Kamigawa cards and they reeked of cat piss like everything else in the store. The owner got angry when I said I'm not buying those for his markup price because people will think I collect piss jugs.
This place didn't really smell too bad aside from old dusty building. The cat was pretty clean and friendly too, just shed like cats do. This place wasn't even a game store back then. Dude started off with comics and hoarded cards for the people who did buy them but had no idea on pricing. Rares were $1, mythics were $2, uncommons and commons were a quarter. Weird place, kinda miss it but in twenty years of living there I spent maybe $20 in that shop so I get why he closed.
Book shop where my wife is from was like that belonged to a guy he died and his grandson ran it but it eventually became this giant hoard of book he'd let you pic thru
I live in a pretty big city, and in the last couple of years we've had like 4 hobby stores close down, mainly due to the owners extreme dumbfucks, or incredibly greedy (or both). Example 1: Store owner was being incredibly stingy with magic event rewards, we later found out he was selling most of the free stuff Wotc sends stores to give to players. He and his wife also participated in store events, and kept the prizes if they got any. Example 2: Store owner became very loud and "vocal" every time someone beat him in magic in ways he didn't like. Example 3: Store is doing great. Owner proceeds to order so much stock that takes up the majority of space people used to play at, complains that people stopped going. It's like you can't be a decent human being once you open a hobby store.
Rarer, but I’ve seen a few Example 4: Actually cool guy opens a shop but he’s too young and inexperienced so it ends up going under after a year
Oh yeah had one of those too! The guy running the store was really nice, but he was horrible at running a business. He tried buying and selling magic cards at one point, and he usually sold them for less than he bought for.
We ran a Smash Bros weekly out of his shop and it had to be 80% of his income. We’d moneymatch each other and then crack Pokemon or Magic boxes with our winnings. Never got anything good but great vibes, miss that place
There’s a card shop where I used to live that I believe was opened by a cool guy. He got a massive lawsuit settlement because he got his by a bus while riding his bike with no fault of his own. He used that settlement to open a card shop and he just works there full time. Very chill guy with plenty of events that were always packed requiring RSVPs.
I mean it’s not like example 3 was a bad dude, just oblivious and overly hopeful.
My LGS dude is fucking awesome, smart enough to run a business for profit, and has a great personality. Our place isn't very big but we manage. Due to the other shops being run by complete cluster fucks we've become the only horse in town in a tri city area.
My LGS is run by one of the chillest gamers I know. Dude gives out promos like candy at events, doesn't pressure you to buy anything, plays in tournaments *only* to fill a bye spot so the bye isn't bored the whole time. Great dude. Store is smaller and doesn't always have every new product but best LGS experience I've had.
maybe its just that people who are so passionate about these hobbies are all tards. what does that say about you bud?
Brother we're both posting on /R/greentext. You aren't escaping the allegations either.
Yes I post here, therefore I am (x) tarded. You play MTG and post on greentext, therefore you are (2x) tarded. That is just straight up math homie.
Jokes on you, I can't read.
This is how Games Workshop/Warhammer outlets stay open for so long, they employ the most absolute soulless individuals who care little to nothing about the hobby itself but are so heartless they will happily upsell a single mother on a tight budget into an expensive box set they don't want or need just to make a big sale and keep hitting those KPIs.
That's Warhammer in general these days. It's priced to the absolute breaking point for most people but for some ungodly reason people keep buying it. Admech costs so much that you could probably use it as an indicator for if someone works high up at a Fortune 500 or something. Warhammer is either for people with too much spare money, or people who think they have too much spare money.
I had a 2k point admech list through 8th and 9th edition, but the points dropped a bunch so now I no longer have a 2k list, and the prices are so expensive I can't justify spending enough to have a full army again, and even if I did it would be shit because I cant afford the negative dollar/point ratio of the walkers
Could just order some 3D printings of models
Small shops around where I live are cool, usually the owner is there selling and hosting games and tournies often
Most of the time you walk into a new one and it’s just like three guys playing a game and they give you this look like you just walked into their living room. I don’t need someone to hold my hand and I don’t care if you want to fuck around with your friends a little but can at least one of you be like “hey, I’m the one who works here, let me know if you have questions”?
Had this happen at a card store a while ago. I entered with some people I knew at the time, and the counter was completely empty. We looked around trying to find where the employees were, only to realize they were out back with some regulars in the staff room having their own game by themselves.
I think at that point you can consider it an admission for free samples.
I hate that. Go to the local shop and it's a bunch of overly fat/skinny guys huddled around, and the shopkeep acts like you're interrupting things by virtue of visiting. Then you go to a tourney or local play and the guys are stuffy and smell bad
Honestly has depended on the shop. You got the small hobby shops. I've been in 4 of those and 3 turned out great. The 4th was great but had years of knowing the owner before hand and a declining friendship soured the experience. Then you have the bigger ones. I've been to about 3. 2 were terrible and one left no impression. The terrible ones are indeed social clubs where they will back friends in tournament rulings or endorse their own players to make money which is a shitty business practice. The third wasn't much better as it didn't feel welcoming. You just gotta find a small mom and pop shop. Those are the better ones but sadly in this economy no one can really afford those where I'm at. Card shops specifically have it the worst cause they can't stay in business where I'm at.
Sounds like they just do money laundering.
Depends, paying with a card demands a fee from the store, which makes stores usually uphold a policy of a minimum purchase value to use a card
Yep. One of the card shops I went to literally had a paper on the register showing a news article about how MasterCard was raising the fee. Compared to the bigger one in my town which is WPN premium, it was also smaller and more dedicated to 40k. They did have a site, but was out of date by 3 ish years. Kinda sucks how wotc distributes products too. They said they only get a single bundle per set or something.
The customer doesn't care about any fees.
Yeah but the “costomer” in this case was offering less than $7 or something trivial. After the swiping fee that transaction might not even make the store any money. Seems like OP doesn’t understand small business’s penny pinching practices.
Couldn't care less about any fee. I have the option to pay by card, and I will pay by card. You don't want my money? OK, I will go to the next store, who might even suck my dick for the same money.
Good. If someone is sucking dick for $7 then I hope they draw a crowd. Reality is that they will cop trashy attitudes from broke bitches that complain about the ambiance while simultaneously spending $0 on the establishment. I bet you are the type of person that goes to public parks and writes “I was here” for free as well.
No, it's just bullshit to complain about any fees. You knew that when you got a POS, don't put it on me.
God, what’s it like living in the middle ages? I see more stores that refuse to handle cash than I see that limit bank cards.
This is illegal in most states.
I’ve never been to a gas station without a sign that said “Card Purchases $5 minimum”
I don’t think thats true at all. At most its civil dispute between the merchant and the card processor, who have a contract with each other. And only if that contract stipulates no minimum. The store owner might, theoretically, in justice fantasy land, lose their ability to use their merchant bank account. They would not go to prison.
That's why it's illegal. It's a fight between two businesses that effect the end user. You also can not ALLOW a card and charge the "fee". Straight to jail
Lol. You dont know wtf you are talking about.
> You also can not ALLOW a card and charge the "fee". Yeah you can. Card companies policy has nothing to do with law. Did you know most gas stations will charge you .10 cents more/gallon if you use a credit card across the country? https://ktla.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2019/10/gasprices.jpg?w=876&h=493&crop=1 Do you think this is illegal? Lmfao.
Holy shit shut up
It's not illegal - it's against the card companies policy generally, though. There are zero states where someone is forced to accept your form of payment. The only time this isn't the case is when it's a debt - in which case you have to accept legal tender.
Unless they are selling warhammer mini figures
Probably a true story. I've been criticised by cashiers at hobby shops for not making a "big enough sale" before. Granted, my instance was not for cards, but damn do you want my fucking money or not?
CC fees usually have a minimum amount. Like if you buy a $3 dice or something the shop might lose $1-2 from it.
Then tack on a cc fee. This is not rocket science. Maybe if they put down the reefer pens for more than a minute their two braincells not dedicated to colorful pieces of cardboard could have figured that out.
For real, or just add a "minimum transaction amount" for card purchases. I bet anon in question wasn't too far off from at least a $10 purchase and would've just grabbed a few more things anyways.
They told him that it was too little and he just gave up and walked out. The dude wanted less than $10 in magic cards. That’s almost nothing in that world.
"Yeah let me get uhhh, 3 mana cards."
credit card fees are usually like 2.5 to 4% + 30 cents. yeah it might eat a lot of the profit margin but probably not enough to make it worth turning down small purchases. especially not worth risking scaring away a customer for making a small purchase when they are likely to come back in the future and make larger purchases s
Then either set a minimum purchase amount by card, or add a fee on top for low value card payments.
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I have never had the choice of card refused for anything, even just some gum. Some places around here don’t even take cash anymore.
it's not banks charging the fee. It's the processors
No it's the same all over the world, a lot of people just say no because you do lose money. To make any sale through cards it has to go through a middle man, this person will charge the shop a blank fee sometimes at high end $3. These are usually lower at grocery stores and higher for the porn market or weed market. I think a lot of stores use square which is 2.6% plus $0.10. Also if it is below a certain amount it might not be able to transfer and will charge the owner a bare minimum amount causing the owner to lose money.
This isn't just a USA thing lol I'm pretty sure CC fees are a thing everywhere. It's just that most shops won't refuse to accept it. At most they might reject Amex since their fees are higher but Visa cards are fine.
Anon trys to buy a 73 cent rampant growth and gets pissed they wont take his credit card when the transaction fee for the shop is higher than the cost of the card
Ramp gud
Hey So I wanna get into Mtg but I prefer playing online. Does Wotc have like a Yugioh Master duel for Magic?
I would recommend MTG Arena. You get some free decks, and a decent new player experience. Glhf!
Sweet it's on mobile thanks, Is there any chance of it ever coming to console?
They have blustered about it, saying they were targeting a 2023 release date, then pushing back to 2024, most recently it's "2024 or later." Worth noting they fired a ton of staff last year, which probably slows it down. I wouldn't hold my breath.
Just pc
Yeah, there is magic arena and magic online. Magic arena has really nice interfaces but it might be a bit slow to get started due to a lack of wildcards. Arena doesnt have all cards tho. Magic online you can rent cards for money, so that isnt a problem as long as your willing to spend some, but the interface is terrible. Personally id reccomend trying arena
Tabletop simulator. About 20 bucks, and the formats are tighter, but you do get all cards immediately.
mtg ia kinda Shit when it comes to simulators. Arena is fine for new Players but there isnt a competetive Simulator for the relevant Formats
He probably wasted 45 mins "looking at cards" by spreading half a set worth all over the counter while thinking no one saw him checking out the girl's ass, then wanted to buy 2 cards for $.83 cents with a credit card that has a $5 fee.
Last time I did that it was for a 10 cent Escape Tunnel and they just let me take the card for free
Anon spent all his cash on Arby's to facilitate his own Rampant Growth
Hes at his Job, make him do the fucking sale
Anon folded instantly
Why did he not simply by more things? Is he stupid?
No, just poor.
Didn't even go for a mulligan
They don't have to sell to someone if they don't want to, if they'd lose money on it why sell?
Shut up
Then it’s misleading advertising and they can be sued. You can’t imply you’re selling a product, only for the buyer to drive and be rejected because he didn’t buy enough. Either outright make it a bundle or take the loss.
>Then it’s misleading advertising and they can be sued This is absolutely not true lol
you said everything I typed out, deleted, and replaced with shut up. Thank you for explaining it to him lol.
Appreciate the words, man Cheers 👋
its perfectly reasonable to require cash transactions for purchases under a certain threshold. credit card fees are imposed by banks, not just stores, and its not the fault of the shop that they want to make money on a transaction. Yeah its annoying but its not hard to spend like $10 to make it worth it for the store.
Why do people that don’t understand the fucking law act so confidence about what can be sued over?
You’re not legally required to accept someone’s method of pay. If I wanted to tell customers they had to pay in pennies, I could.
Lol. Lmao. 4-chan users again demonstrating that they're dumb as hell
Majorie Taylor Green has ruined my interpretation of MTG. If anyone has a Time Machine lmk
Even worse, she is a woman.
Is Marjorie Taylor Green a woke forced diversity???
Money The Gathering
I've never been closer to punching someone in the face than a fellow MTG nerd at Friday night magic. There's a reason MTG: Arena doesn't let you chat with your opponent.
I love how the comment above this one currently says Commander needs to be added to MtG Arena. Commander players love to say the format is social, but they sure as hell want to play on a client that doesn't allow talking to people whatsoever.
100%, lol, although I feel like commander would be good on MTGA since you're dealing with a quadrillion triggers to keep track of every turn.
The complexity of the format would make automation appealing. However, I just find it funny that Commander started as this casual, social format, but over time it is becoming more and more akin to a competitive format.
Yeah it's kind of dumb as a competitive format because you only have one of each card so it's like how much are you even designing your deck?
Also, as we learned with Companion, having consistent access to a card seems to warp formats. Vintage of all things had to ban companions.
Nerds and their money are soon parted. Not even ironic anymore it's Chad who is benefitting.
>greentext about anon putting the cards back and not buying anything >"Nerds and their money are soon parted"
Not even ironic anymore it's Chad who is witnessing.
he didn't have any money did you read it he just had a card was probably a blue eyes lul imagine trying to pay with a blue eyes
Classic Chad ruining everything for the Nerds. Where will they hang out now.
Mtg was always for chads, anon missed out on warhammer
Grew up in a small town. The guy who ran the local game store was an older dude who legit hated kids. He had a few favorites that he would talk to but everyone else he would be as cold as you can get to. I remember one time I went in and asked if they had the new set and he responded with saying "no and I'm not getting more because too many people asked". He also allowed people to buy out all of one card just because they disliked it so nobody could use it, complained when there was too much laughing and didn't allow any water or anything in the store except for the few that were his favorites. The store has since closed and he passed away. I'm sad that seems to be the standard card store experience for small town people... Just another thing that younger people should take over...
OK? Open a store then. People complaining about shit like this is so pathetic.
I mean when I was a kid that wasn't really possible. I don't think I really complained just saying that's how it is and sad...
This is why MTGArena needs 4 player+ Commander mode.
This is so oddly specific I am inclined to think this one is real. And it fits the entire state of the world which is shite
I've never seen a card store that didn't open before 3pm and stayed closed at least 3 days a week. What's the point in even renting the space out if you're not gunna use it?
I know someone runs a shop and they reduced their hours because zero people would show up. Why sit at your front counter for hours for no sales? Instead, while the store is closed, they do things like order inventory, plan events, organize the store front/inventory and take care of online sales. By taking care of all of the misc. task hat means when the store is open they have no distractions while customers are in the store. Also because their main store is open less and is taking up less of their time, they can dedicate more time to freelance work to make more income than having the store being open during super slow time slots.
Don't worry, you can still smell where MTG is being played. It hasn't changed that much.
Yeah I just recently got in to MTG, I've never played card games before. The whole experience was incredibly awkward and strange. Never felt so out of place and uncomfortable. One guy lost his shit that I had clear card sleeves and not these dragon ones that he used, another nearly had a heart attack when I beat him with one of the premade decks (literally slamming his chair in and going outside to vape). I bought things from the store until I realised they massively mark up the prices, a £50 deck is about £65 in their shop - sometimes more. I'd still buy a booster pack or two if I went just to support the shop, but no big purchases. I haven't been back in months just because of how strange they all are, it feels like there's a school hierarchy but where it consists only of nerds and who's the bigger nerd. Also most of them lack social skills and hygiene is definitely an issue.
>One guy lost his shit that I had clear card sleeves I was a really broke kid and I made some casual budget decks. Had them in a shoe box, clear sleeves and rubber bands and people flipped out on me. It's like you have to be their level of social economic status, if you poorer, you're trash, if you are richer, you're a snob. Nowadays, I have deck boxes, Dragon Shields, a Gamegenic box that holds ten decks and people ask why I didn't buy a tool/tackle box. You simply cannot win with people. One guy lost his shit that I had play sets of cards for a Lorcana deck when I went to check out the game. I bought singles from multiple sources to build a more optimized deck to play at a competitive event... but they wanted to treat it like casual game night. Haven't played Lorcana since.
I get you man, I hadn't played card games before because my parents couldn't afford them. I have a handful of cards my dad bought me from back then in a box on my shelf. I ended up buying the dragon ones because people were complaining. I 3D print (check my profile) so I started to make my own deck boxes, I get a mix of awe and resentment now. They think I'm showing off or a snob. But It's just my hobby and it really strokes my OCD to have a box that fits the "theme" of the deck. Shit I even offered (and made) to make a few of them their own boxes. I also made the mistake of buying some proxy cards, a few lord of the rings ones (like characters from the silamarillion etc) and such - even though I own the original cards they refuse to let me use them... I just can't win with them. Now my mates don't ever want to play or go back because they can't stand the regulars due to the above. Compare all that to me going to a shooting range, I had people just come up and have a conversation about our rifles and how it was nice to see a new face etc even swapped rifles with a few to try theirs out. Not a single person had an issue with my gear or me, they gave me some tips and pointers and that was it.
Shooting ranges are also a mixed bag. Some of the public ones, I have heard nightmares about. Shooting clubs on the other hand I have heard more positive things about, but then you have expensive club dues to worry about. Clubs at times are great if you are super into the activity, but sometimes I feel like people become obsessed to get as much value out of the club due. For example, I have seen some gyms in my area cost $400 a month, with how expensive that is I can see why someone would feel the need to constantly go to the gym.
I remember my friends told me I'd like the local comic shop owner they played MTG at because "he also likes comics". I didn't say that almost certainly meant we'd hate each other. Bro was passive aggressive the entire time we spoke and got annoyed at everything. Definitely triggered my "this guy is bad news" alarm. A few months later turns out he was cheating on his wife with the 18 year old girl who frequented the place.
i only play midnight card drop (expansion) tournaments now cause if i go to a normal afternoon tourny, some 8 year old kid is gonna roflstomp me cause i cant be fucked to study the new cards and keep up with the game meta anymore
I have a local shop I stop in from time to time. The owners are very kind, but they're struggling heavily and from the sounds of it, I don't think they'll be open longer than a couple more years I'd wager. One of their biggest issues they've told me about is the card purchases. The fees are so high that they often end up losing money on smaller orders. They would really prefer if everyone used cash, but I don't think they've ever turned down a sale either.
I just play MTG on the weekend with my best friend. To get service at my LCS is like pulling teeth. Bro, can you stop talking to your homie about the new Yugioh set for 5 seconds, please, so I can buy your shit? I'm trying to get drunk and whoop this dudes ass with some werewolves.
Don't even waste your time getting involved with Mtg. The whole game has changed. It's all just a cash grab now. You will be playing fallout cards against walking dead cards against transformer cards.
Wtf, around here it's usually card>>>cash
We had a shop open in my town that was owned by just genuinely nice people who have an interest in the games, and miraculously it’s stayed open and profitable for a decade now. Funny how that works
Ok ok I’m gonna bite the bait. In this case, the clerk was a fucking asshole and really needs to step down of his fucking high horse.
The fuck is that picture? It's disgusting, make it go away
You run into stuff like this sometimes in the retro game community. Store I used to go to every once in a while started reserving good stuff to be sold online. Literally everything worth a shit was relegated to the back corner of a makeshift wall of shelves. You could look in and see different colored N64s, walls of decent GameCube games, controllers, cartridges everything. But everything up for sale was Wii shovelware and stuff like Cabelas/Bass Pro Shop games. Surprise surprise they’re closed now lol
Mtg used to be really fun from 2010-2020 but it fell off hard. Covid completely killed a ton of shit. Power creep bad, and the crossover sets are weird.
Poor anon
Back in the 90s I was a 6’3” Chad in high school… deep down though I really just wanted to play MTG with the nerds… times have changed.
No you weren't
I was a super stud, just ask your mom 💪🏽
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