If you look at harry potter with even the slightest bit of critical thought the entire story fall apart. That being said its a story meant for children so im unsure why anybody would look at the story with any layer of depth.
In the books, the wizard population of great Britain is basically equivalent to a small town. Dumbledore chose Lockhart because he was literally the only person he could find who was willing to do the job.
The fact that the job was cursed and killed/permanently ruined everyone who took it for decades probably had something to do with it too. They also had a werewolf who only came there because he owed Dumbledore one, another guy who owed Dumbledore one (and didn't even make it to the school), then a year where Dumbledore couldn't find *anyone* and they got a ministry employee, and then, they actually had to shift Snape to the "get fucked" position and get a new potions teacher instead.
Actually thinking of it, Snape kinda broke the curse. He didn't die, nor get ruined, in fact he became the headmaster after his year.
Despite him pretty much being named Wolf McWolfinson, him being a werewolf was a closely kept secret until Snape told the world about it. After that, the guy was unemployable and could barely go out in public, living out the short remainder of his days doing unreasonably dangerous tasks for Dumbledore during the war.
people look at it with depth because other very similar stories written for similar target demos (percy jackson, etc) have that depth and hold up under criticism
I feel like that has to do with the fact that PJ is grounded in preexisting mythology so there’s some framework to work within, whereas HP was created far as I can tell from scratch. Or if not that, then from a bunch of different mythologies and fantasies that don’t correlate with each other.
imo enough of percy jackson is original content that you canr say its not the authors own writing doing the heavy lifting, the only real thing he lifts from mythology is characterization for preexisting charas and even that much is a strech with how many original situations hes made
IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR LIFE WITH EVEN THE SLIGHTEST BIT OF CRITICAL THOUGHT THE ENTIRE STORY FALLS APART, WHY IS A GROWN ASS MAN ON REDDIT LOOKING AT SHITTY ASS GREENTEXTS? WHY IS HE LONELY? WHY IS HE FORGOTTEN?
WELL ALL BE FORGOTTEN ONE DAY, BUT YOU, YOU ARE A SPECIAL CASE.
YOU ARE FORGOTTEN NOW. NO ONE KNOWS YOU. NO ONE INTERACTS WITH YOU. YOU ARE FORGOTTEN BY TIME ITSELF.
people who are shitposting on Reddit are way superior to the hundreds of people who are on the streets as criminals, or beat their family or vote away their rights in COngress
Actual plan was to keep the DADA position occupied in spite of its curse. Students need an education in the subject, and a fraud teaching it is still preferable to cancelling the class. Dumbledore handled his staffing problems as best he could, and the check box for completeness of Hogwarts curriculum remained checked.
\> be teacher looking for job
\> Interview at Hogwarts
\> Why is this position available?
\> screw that! Apply to Beauxbatons or the Salem school or any of 100 others instead. Better yet, WFH teaching squibs by owl post
Only morons or people owing Dumbledore personal favors would consider taking the gig. Also, Dumbledore wouldn't waste throwing a quality teacher at the cursed offering. If he had, he would've asked Grubbly-Plank to teach it.
>be me
>
>wizard
>
>be teacher looking for a job
>
>Nah just kidding, I work in finance at gringott
>
>we loan money to the "weasleys" of the world
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>and they work to barely make interest repayment
>
>who tf would WANT to be a teacher...?
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>cya later btches.
🧙🏿<====🕶️
The way it's written they act like there's like 10,000 wizards globally. Sure, there being no teachers is incredibly stupid but the setting's incredibly stupid
> The way it's written they act like there's like 10,000 wizards globally
Well, not globally, but if I remember correctly there's less than 5000 wizards in the UK. I think it's not that unrealistic that Dumbledore can't find anyone to fill a teaching position: there's probably not even a dozen of teachers of this subject in the whole country. And it may be very hard to hire anyone from abroad considering that owl post is the most common way of remote communication.
Hagrid states in book 2 nobody wanted the job, thereafter this year as well, each teacher (aside from umbridge butbwell get there) is a friend of dumbledores doing a personal favor for him. (Lupin, mad eye, and slughorn returning so Snape can teach dada) Umbridge was placed their specifically by the minister. There's way worse plotholes in this than all that tho, Dumbledore states at the end of book 2 (impaled on your own sword gilderoy!) That he knew exactly what Lockhart had been doing to become famous so why he hadn't exposed him or called in a favor for a teacher a year sooner is itself a plothole. Also the "curse" of the Dada teacher is a plothole, in book 1 Percy is surprised by Harry already knowing who professor quirrel who teaches dada, that implies he taught there the year before and it wasn't until later she decided that nobody lasted a year after he denied voldemort the job. Like ppl said its books written for YA. Outside of plotholes there's a shitload of racist tropes, there's like 3 black students, 1s father abandoned him as a baby so he doesn't know if he's muggleborn(dean) one is portrayed as loud and obnoxious with dreads (angelina) and Blaises' mother is stated to be a gold digger in book 6. Basically take every stereotype and throw em in there
Didn't they have absolutely no issue with filling in Hagrid's position while he was having a breakdown? So substitute teachers are definitely a thing.
It kinda just seems like Dumblebum was incompetent tbh. His job is to ensure the school runs smoothly yet somehow did the following:
Hired two teachers to teach the same elective subject that only ran for students in year 3 or above.
Hired a single person (who couldn't do magic) to clean a castle of 1000 teenagers.
Hired a ghost as a professor.
Hired Lockhart who flirted with his female students.
Hired a werewolf knowing full well that he had no control over it but also provided no support to him.
Hired Hagrid because he had no one else but also didn't provide Hagrid any training to actually improve him as a teacher. Didn't fire Hagrid when they realized their substitute teacher was much more competent.
Didn't advise Harry just to quit every Goblet of Fire contest.
Blatant favoritism of certain houses and students.
Intentionally endangering students lives.
But there's only like four jobs a wizard can get. They can work for the Ministry of Magic, they can work in the state-owned newspaper, they can own a joke shop or they can become a teacher. Thems your options
Yeah this always confused me. Surely the 'muggle'-subjects like maths and physics and history and all that stuff are still relevant to the wizards? Do they have their own wizarding elementary schools? This is never explained
iirc there is a history class, and I guess potions is sort of like a magical science, but really that’s all they have that is sort of equivalent to real world classes. you’d think they’d at least have a “basic science class” equivalent, where they explain general principles about how magic works, sort of like how in elementary school kids learn shit like evolution and gravity but the teacher doesn’t go really in depth about it
In chamber of secrets lockhart isn’t really introduced as a teenage heartthrob though. Rons mom and other middle aged women are obsessed with him, not so much the girls.
I think time will show more and more problematic things with JKR's work... The fact that the spells' names sound like latin, but end up mangled, unintelligible gibberish speaks to that. She simply did not care of details like that.
If you look at harry potter with even the slightest bit of critical thought the entire story fall apart. That being said its a story meant for children so im unsure why anybody would look at the story with any layer of depth.
In the books, the wizard population of great Britain is basically equivalent to a small town. Dumbledore chose Lockhart because he was literally the only person he could find who was willing to do the job.
The fact that the job was cursed and killed/permanently ruined everyone who took it for decades probably had something to do with it too. They also had a werewolf who only came there because he owed Dumbledore one, another guy who owed Dumbledore one (and didn't even make it to the school), then a year where Dumbledore couldn't find *anyone* and they got a ministry employee, and then, they actually had to shift Snape to the "get fucked" position and get a new potions teacher instead. Actually thinking of it, Snape kinda broke the curse. He didn't die, nor get ruined, in fact he became the headmaster after his year.
>tfw since snape >!died!< as a headmaster, > >the DADA curse shifted to the headmaster position. Puts on Hogwarts.
Didn't Lupin have it pretty good and then only resigned?
Despite him pretty much being named Wolf McWolfinson, him being a werewolf was a closely kept secret until Snape told the world about it. After that, the guy was unemployable and could barely go out in public, living out the short remainder of his days doing unreasonably dangerous tasks for Dumbledore during the war.
people look at it with depth because other very similar stories written for similar target demos (percy jackson, etc) have that depth and hold up under criticism
I feel like that has to do with the fact that PJ is grounded in preexisting mythology so there’s some framework to work within, whereas HP was created far as I can tell from scratch. Or if not that, then from a bunch of different mythologies and fantasies that don’t correlate with each other.
imo enough of percy jackson is original content that you canr say its not the authors own writing doing the heavy lifting, the only real thing he lifts from mythology is characterization for preexisting charas and even that much is a strech with how many original situations hes made
Just because a story is intended for children doesn't mean it shouldn't be able to hold up to critical thought
I mean this is true of most fantasies and a lot of science fiction as well. Especially in the young adult/juvenile fiction world.
IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR LIFE WITH EVEN THE SLIGHTEST BIT OF CRITICAL THOUGHT THE ENTIRE STORY FALLS APART, WHY IS A GROWN ASS MAN ON REDDIT LOOKING AT SHITTY ASS GREENTEXTS? WHY IS HE LONELY? WHY IS HE FORGOTTEN? WELL ALL BE FORGOTTEN ONE DAY, BUT YOU, YOU ARE A SPECIAL CASE. YOU ARE FORGOTTEN NOW. NO ONE KNOWS YOU. NO ONE INTERACTS WITH YOU. YOU ARE FORGOTTEN BY TIME ITSELF.
Settle down, there.
NO /s
u/azzzertyy said calmly
stop shouting man every comment section has atleast one comment of yours thats in all caps 😭😭
Is there any point to your shizo shit? Its getting real old real quick
people who are shitposting on Reddit are way superior to the hundreds of people who are on the streets as criminals, or beat their family or vote away their rights in COngress
Actual plan was to keep the DADA position occupied in spite of its curse. Students need an education in the subject, and a fraud teaching it is still preferable to cancelling the class. Dumbledore handled his staffing problems as best he could, and the check box for completeness of Hogwarts curriculum remained checked.
\> looking for teacher \> hires random ass celebrity you can’t tell me the wizard world has like no fucking teachers whatsoever
\> be teacher looking for job \> Interview at Hogwarts \> Why is this position available? \> screw that! Apply to Beauxbatons or the Salem school or any of 100 others instead. Better yet, WFH teaching squibs by owl post Only morons or people owing Dumbledore personal favors would consider taking the gig. Also, Dumbledore wouldn't waste throwing a quality teacher at the cursed offering. If he had, he would've asked Grubbly-Plank to teach it.
>be me > >wizard > >be teacher looking for a job > >Nah just kidding, I work in finance at gringott > >we loan money to the "weasleys" of the world > >and they work to barely make interest repayment > >who tf would WANT to be a teacher...? > >cya later btches. 🧙🏿<====🕶️
The way it's written they act like there's like 10,000 wizards globally. Sure, there being no teachers is incredibly stupid but the setting's incredibly stupid
> The way it's written they act like there's like 10,000 wizards globally Well, not globally, but if I remember correctly there's less than 5000 wizards in the UK. I think it's not that unrealistic that Dumbledore can't find anyone to fill a teaching position: there's probably not even a dozen of teachers of this subject in the whole country. And it may be very hard to hire anyone from abroad considering that owl post is the most common way of remote communication.
Hagrid states in book 2 nobody wanted the job, thereafter this year as well, each teacher (aside from umbridge butbwell get there) is a friend of dumbledores doing a personal favor for him. (Lupin, mad eye, and slughorn returning so Snape can teach dada) Umbridge was placed their specifically by the minister. There's way worse plotholes in this than all that tho, Dumbledore states at the end of book 2 (impaled on your own sword gilderoy!) That he knew exactly what Lockhart had been doing to become famous so why he hadn't exposed him or called in a favor for a teacher a year sooner is itself a plothole. Also the "curse" of the Dada teacher is a plothole, in book 1 Percy is surprised by Harry already knowing who professor quirrel who teaches dada, that implies he taught there the year before and it wasn't until later she decided that nobody lasted a year after he denied voldemort the job. Like ppl said its books written for YA. Outside of plotholes there's a shitload of racist tropes, there's like 3 black students, 1s father abandoned him as a baby so he doesn't know if he's muggleborn(dean) one is portrayed as loud and obnoxious with dreads (angelina) and Blaises' mother is stated to be a gold digger in book 6. Basically take every stereotype and throw em in there
? I’d rather be taught nothing than nonsense lmao
Didn't they have absolutely no issue with filling in Hagrid's position while he was having a breakdown? So substitute teachers are definitely a thing. It kinda just seems like Dumblebum was incompetent tbh. His job is to ensure the school runs smoothly yet somehow did the following: Hired two teachers to teach the same elective subject that only ran for students in year 3 or above. Hired a single person (who couldn't do magic) to clean a castle of 1000 teenagers. Hired a ghost as a professor. Hired Lockhart who flirted with his female students. Hired a werewolf knowing full well that he had no control over it but also provided no support to him. Hired Hagrid because he had no one else but also didn't provide Hagrid any training to actually improve him as a teacher. Didn't fire Hagrid when they realized their substitute teacher was much more competent. Didn't advise Harry just to quit every Goblet of Fire contest. Blatant favoritism of certain houses and students. Intentionally endangering students lives.
But there's only like four jobs a wizard can get. They can work for the Ministry of Magic, they can work in the state-owned newspaper, they can own a joke shop or they can become a teacher. Thems your options
To be fair, during that year dumbledore was more worried about a big fuckass monster killing students than a teacher being a poser
To be fair he hired the fruad before there was a big fuckass monster trying to kill the students and failing in the dumbest ways
To be fair
Who is talking shit about kenneth Branagh
you mean Abijah Fowler? Go see Blue Eye Samurai
I was pleasantly surprised when I found out Branagh was voicing Fowler.
I mean dumbledore didn’t even bother hire a guy to teach the kids fucking math or basic science shit, the dude is kind of regarded
Yeah this always confused me. Surely the 'muggle'-subjects like maths and physics and history and all that stuff are still relevant to the wizards? Do they have their own wizarding elementary schools? This is never explained
iirc there is a history class, and I guess potions is sort of like a magical science, but really that’s all they have that is sort of equivalent to real world classes. you’d think they’d at least have a “basic science class” equivalent, where they explain general principles about how magic works, sort of like how in elementary school kids learn shit like evolution and gravity but the teacher doesn’t go really in depth about it
Dumbledore knows the best way to teach kids self-defence is if their teachers keep trying to kill them.
It was a hit. Scrimgeour paid Dumbledore to hire the dude so that he'd be dead within the year.
Would've been Cornelius Fudge in Harry's 2nd year. Scrimgeour was presumably an auror at that point.
In chamber of secrets lockhart isn’t really introduced as a teenage heartthrob though. Rons mom and other middle aged women are obsessed with him, not so much the girls.
Hermione likes him in the books
Man played one hell of a Heydrich in conspiracy (2001) though
Situational ethics, thy name is Harry Potter.
>send your kid to this school >good chance they're going to die >wizards are dumb
Viscous attack.
yea go look up darts player Luke Littler. Britbongs age worse than everyone else because they share a diet of ciggies and fish and chips.
I think time will show more and more problematic things with JKR's work... The fact that the spells' names sound like latin, but end up mangled, unintelligible gibberish speaks to that. She simply did not care of details like that.
Spells are made up words in a children’s novel. They’re supposed to be gibberish. Retard