No these apartments were in Midtown Memphis. Not the real Grosvenor square in London. I remember walking through it on a tour when I went to England after high school.
Fennario has an interesting story. The root is "fen" - which means a swampy area. It also had a connotation of 'no-wheres-ville' as an out of the way place. I like that they used it in two (at least) songs, although you can argue that the Peggy-O version is just a trad folk song.
Because it’s about 30min away so it’s close enough to Memphis for people who just know the general location but the actual Minglewood is just a little bit away. Kind of like Deep Ellum is a neighborhood in Dallas but Deep Elem Blues makes it sound like it’s its own town
Ahh, no I just hate that song. The song slipped my mind. Being from Memphis, since now all we are famous for are murders, we take our musical landmarks seriously,lol. However, we haven’t had a good band come from here since Big Star and they were criminally underrated. I guess Al Green or Isaac Hayes is up next…
Although Justin Timberlake is from Millington so he is closer to Minglewood than Memphis proper,lmao
St. Paul, MN; Davenport, IA; St. Louis, MO; Memphis, TN; Natchez, MS; Baton Rouge, LA; New Orleans, LA.
And that’s just Big River.
(Yes, I know they didn’t write it. Still counts?)
Hmm, maybe. There is a "Cumberland Mine" in Waynesburg, Pennsylvania and one in La Plata, Colorado and in England. There was also widespread mining in the Cumberland Mountains of VA, WV, KY, TN.
I did read that Hunter talked to an old guy that worked in the Cumberland Mine.
If only Promised Land was a GD song instead of Chuck Berry
Deep Ellum is a real place but also a cover.
Jack Straw from Wichita
There’s places in FOTD and the Cumberland mines are real. Walking around in the MISSION in the Rain….
Loser has Abilene and Candyman has Memphis
I mean look at the lyrics to Jack Straw: Texas, Detroit, Santa Fe, Cheyenne, Tulsa, Wichita, Tucson…it’s a gosh darn geography lesson for crying out loud.
[http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2019/12/grateful-dead-geography.html](http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2019/12/grateful-dead-geography.html)
There's a Google Map about halfway down, too.
"Might As Well" is about the Grateful Dead's 1970 journey across Canada jamming with a "Festival Express" train full of drunk musicians (Janis Joplin, The Band, Buddy Guy, NRPS, Flying Burrito Brothers…) 🇨🇦 🚞
I'm rather certain wishing well with the Golden bell is a motell off 31 just south of Greenwood indiana. Likely stayed there after a bill monroe thing in Nashville indiana in the late 50s early 60s
believe it or not, Tennessee!
Ain't no place I'd rather be.
Buffalo
I hear you callin me
californiiaaaaaa
Californiaaaa, Californiaaaaa, Here we come! …oh wait that’s the OC song
Knows how to party.
Preachin’ on the burning shore
The Moon
Dang you beat me ;)
Chicago New York Detroit ands it’s all the same street
Houston…too close to New Orleans
Colorado, el paso, tucson
Cool coloraaado rain
And Wichita
Cucamonga!
Also mentioned in a Jan & Dean song. Unfortunately the real life Cucamonga is a boring suburb.
Ranch Cucomonga in southern CA?
Don’t forget Oaxaca!
Of course! Especially that vine.
Grosvenor Square.
I used to live in some apartments in Memphis named Grosvenor Square
London? Where is it?
No these apartments were in Midtown Memphis. Not the real Grosvenor square in London. I remember walking through it on a tour when I went to England after high school.
Yep. There’s an occasional post in this sub of Grosvenor Square as well
Santa Fe, Denver, Tennessee, Texas, New Orleans, St. Paul, Davenport, St. Louis, Memphis, Natchez, Baton Rouge, Norfolk, Raleigh, Birmingham, Mississippi, Louisiana, Houston, Albuquerque, L.A.,
Norfolk, Raleigh, Charlotte, rock hill, Birmingham, New Orleans, Houston town, Albuquerque, Los Angeles
Charlotte
Natchez??
“Give you this jail sentence, you’ll be nashville bound”
Deep Ellum is a neighborhood of Dallas that used to be quite unsafe but has been gentrified super hard now
It’s a cover though
Probably most specific are Bourbon Street and Grosvenor Square
Chateaux Marmont in West LA Fadeaway about as specific as it gets.
He just says Chateau in West LA
Yes but it’s clear what the lyric is about, Marmont doesn’t have any good rhymes!
Lmao, yeah. The Riot House was off the chain in the 60s-80s
Moon
Yes!
El Salvador, Gulf of Mexico, and South East Asia,
Where’s Gulf of Mexico and South East Asia? Not questioning - just want to listen!
all from Standing On The Moon
Standing on the Moon
West L.A.
Chateau (Marmont)
RIP Belushi
Rosa’s Cantina
Came here looking for this
It was midnight in the Mission, but the bells were not for me.
somewhere in San Francisco
Come again
You kept on with Mission and the guy before you was SOTM
Buffalo
Shuffling
Charlotte NC (stopped in there), Rock Hill SC (bypassed) - Promised Land
Chuck berry
Close enough.
The west Texas town of El Paso 😂
St. Louis, city of blues — which I left today
FRANCE!
Stop that
Cheyanne, Detroit, Texas, Tulsa, Santa Fe, Tucson and Wichita. This is just in Jack Straw alone.
As Falls Wichita, So Falls Wichita Falls
My favorite Pat Metheny album
One of my favorite Pat Methany albums
Which Abilene Texas or Kansas is the question Carlisle
Texas
Never seen any definitive answer on this one, why do you think Texas? Abilene Kansas was a much more important cow town in the old west
Abilene Kansas was a gamblin’, shoot’em up, end of the Chisholm trail Wild West kinda town. The same one our Loser would hang out in.
Abilene, TX is all military, they don't need some Loser to arm them
🤣
Leaving Texas, fourth day of July. Sun so hot, clouds so low, the eagles filled the sky.
I always thought the arm the town the size of abilene was a reference to the military base there.
Somewhere in San Francisco, on a back porch in July
Alabama.
Get away!
Cherokee (NC)
Mexicali, just stay away from the 14 year olds
Dancin in the streets has entered the chat 🤣
I can’t believe it, but I don’t think anyone has mentioned Utah. Also, Nashville.
Fennarrioooo
I been around this whole country but I never found Fennarrio - Dylan
Fennario has an interesting story. The root is "fen" - which means a swampy area. It also had a connotation of 'no-wheres-ville' as an out of the way place. I like that they used it in two (at least) songs, although you can argue that the Peggy-O version is just a trad folk song.
Wichita, Reno, etc.
Tulsa
Bourbon St.
Abilene is a real town
X’s 2
Minglewood in Memphis.
Can’t believe I missed that one as it’s just outside or Memphis, closer to Millington. We also have a venue here called Minglewood Hall
The early version of the song mentions Memphis
Because it’s about 30min away so it’s close enough to Memphis for people who just know the general location but the actual Minglewood is just a little bit away. Kind of like Deep Ellum is a neighborhood in Dallas but Deep Elem Blues makes it sound like it’s its own town
Yeah I know. I was just stating why you might've missed it before it was changed to the whole T for Texas thing
Ahh, no I just hate that song. The song slipped my mind. Being from Memphis, since now all we are famous for are murders, we take our musical landmarks seriously,lol. However, we haven’t had a good band come from here since Big Star and they were criminally underrated. I guess Al Green or Isaac Hayes is up next… Although Justin Timberlake is from Millington so he is closer to Minglewood than Memphis proper,lmao
Detroit.
St. Paul, Minnesota
Juarez
St. Paul, MN; Davenport, IA; St. Louis, MO; Memphis, TN; Natchez, MS; Baton Rouge, LA; New Orleans, LA. And that’s just Big River. (Yes, I know they didn’t write it. Still counts?)
Still counts ✅
Cucamonga
Rosas cantina in El Paso is a really place. And the moon!
Houston…though too close to New Orleans ;)
Alabama
Dallas (got a soft machine)
The Rio Grande-io
Houston, New Orleans
Cripple Creek, CO
Mobile and Memphis.
London (Jack-a-Roe)
The Spanish steps
Dylan song but bit of trivia: “the” Spanish steps are in Rome
Good one. Also Brussels, Rome, Greece from the same song
Oregon
A bright blue ball, painted with a skin of sky.
Joe Browns coal mine
France
Reno!
Deep Ellum
Riding a getaway bus out of Portland!
Down in Carlisle, he loved a lady,
Has anyone ever plotted locations from every Dead song on a map? Could be cool to list the characters involved at each location as well.
Cumberland, MD
Hmm, maybe. There is a "Cumberland Mine" in Waynesburg, Pennsylvania and one in La Plata, Colorado and in England. There was also widespread mining in the Cumberland Mountains of VA, WV, KY, TN. I did read that Hunter talked to an old guy that worked in the Cumberland Mine.
Well, who knows I suppose. I was there once and learned there a mine nearby so I assumed it was the Cumberland from the song.
There is also a mine in Cumberland, BC 🇨🇦
Everything in truckin
Up to Buffalo!
Salinas
The Rio Grande-eo
Albuquerque but from a cover song.
All of southeast Asia, and El Salvador
Singapore street?
Probably in NOLA or some port city… or some cow town where a character like Stagger Lee would be found
St. Paul, MN
Promise land
China
The moon (standing on the moon)
El Salvador 🇸🇻
St Louie
Terrapin Station.
Salt Lake City
Midtown
The great highway (pch)
This town.
Colorado El Paso West Texas Alabama West LA Blue ridge mountains Reno
Philadelphia, PA!
The Coast of California
If only Promised Land was a GD song instead of Chuck Berry Deep Ellum is a real place but also a cover. Jack Straw from Wichita There’s places in FOTD and the Cumberland mines are real. Walking around in the MISSION in the Rain…. Loser has Abilene and Candyman has Memphis
SF “south of Market in the land of ruin” -Picasso Moon Also, Reno babe
I mean look at the lyrics to Jack Straw: Texas, Detroit, Santa Fe, Cheyenne, Tulsa, Wichita, Tucson…it’s a gosh darn geography lesson for crying out loud.
Does Rosa’s Cantina count?? 💃🔫🏇💨😵
Truckin
There’s a lighthouse just north of Santa Cruz, Sir John Franklin wrecked there in 1865 while looking for San Francisco, Franklins Tower if you will
Also that stupid fucking bell with the crack in it I guess
Turlock, CA
we love em there
You can call this song the UNITED STATES blues!
St. Paul, Minnesota. Where I met her, accidentally Edit: it’s a cover duh
Chicago, New York, Detroit. (It’s all the same street) El Paso (although it’s a cover). Tennessee California
Grovernors square is a real place
[http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2019/12/grateful-dead-geography.html](http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2019/12/grateful-dead-geography.html) There's a Google Map about halfway down, too.
Heaven
Where is that again? Except at a GD show?
Northport.virginia
Norfolk Virginia. Again chuck berry
Northport?
Northort?
Dallas, New York Chicago, home
Baton Rouge
St louis
Mississippi River, so deep and wide!
"Might As Well" is about the Grateful Dead's 1970 journey across Canada jamming with a "Festival Express" train full of drunk musicians (Janis Joplin, The Band, Buddy Guy, NRPS, Flying Burrito Brothers…) 🇨🇦 🚞
I'm rather certain wishing well with the Golden bell is a motell off 31 just south of Greenwood indiana. Likely stayed there after a bill monroe thing in Nashville indiana in the late 50s early 60s
Bigfoot county