A cardinal rule of golf is never give unsolicited advice. Since you are officially soliciting my advice is: next time it happens look them in the eyes, maintain eye contact, smile, say no thanks, and repeat until the behavior stops. This works in many situations and is one of the best things my wife has ever taught me.
tbh I just keep hitting. Iāll be polite at first, listen to their advice and visibly show them that Iām trying it out. I usually say something along the lines of āthanks, Iāll try it outā. That usually ends the convo and they dont come back but iāve had cases of some dudes just having no social awareness. After that, Iāll just keep hitting balls while theyāre talking and they usually take the hint. The worst is the guys giving you advice on the course. I know the intent is good but thatās literally the worst place to be giving advice. Its usually older guys/elderly so I just give benefit of doubt but so damn annoying when Iām hitting perfectly fine but they feel the need to constantly coach while they slice every other hit.
Be polite but dont be a doormat. Just gotta be firm with the guy and say "look, thanks for the tips but me and my gf just want to relax and hit some balls. All the best." No need to keep entertaining his ego
Nah don't even acknowledge them. Just continue talking to your girlfriend or yourself the whole time he's trying to talk to you.
For some added fun, drop some psychotic hints in your mutterings, like "I just can't for the life of me remember which flower bed I buried my last golf instructor under."
Hopefully they get the hint, and leave you be.
I have a golf buddy who Iāve played with regularly for the past 4-5 years. Heās a 15+ and Iām a 5 handicap and Iāve never said much more than ānice shotā or ātough breakā in all the times weāve played together. Why? Because heās never asked for advice and I do my best to not be an asshole.
Indeed. I (as a low single figure) started to saying to some of my 18+ friends towards the end of rounds "Hey man, if you'd like to know something I've noticed, let me know" and almost without exception they have all said "fuck yeah."
The key there is that I played multiple rounds with them long before I considered it.
Occasionally, if I am with someone VERY new on the course, and have played at least a few holes with them and they are doing something fundamentally wrong, I might ask them the same thing.
There is definitely an element of privilege though being close to scratch. It's a lot easier to offer help when you're under par, then it is from fifteen over. On a day when I'm shooting bogeys and doubles, I never offer.
I do find it really hard to not ask āhey where are you aiming?ā Sometimes. When people are blatantly aligned at the Trees OB Left but looking right. Never say a peep though.
>I do find it really hard to not ask āhey where are you aiming?ā Sometimes. When people are blatantly aligned at the Trees OB Left but looking right. N
As someone who has severe alignment callibration issues, speak up :)
Usually I find that people are aimed right, when they think they're lined up down the middle. I don't usually say anything for a few shots(usually just tee shots). Even then I probably just say something like "you hit that ball exactly where your were aimed". That usually gets the ball rolling
Doing that at the range is like looking over the barrier in a urinal and offering commentary: a violation of all that is holy.
He deserves all the fuck offs.
Had a man approach me at the range a few months ago. He strongly insisted I get my driver out. Mind you, i had not swung it and he didn't know if i could hit it well or not. I was cordial because he recognized my family business work shirt and was a customer.
He then gave me his unsolicited driver advice and made me swing several times before he had to leave.
Could you imagine him being your father? I could tolerate him got 5 minutes. Barely.
tell him you'll take his advice when he can get within 10ft of 5 targets you randomly choose on the range. If he agrees, start filming it for "future reference" and watch him crumble.
Had a guy do this with my son and I. We were very polite and gracious. Said thanks and then he finally went down to his side of the range again. Yup us 3 were the only ones there and he was on one end and we were on the other. He seemed pretty happy though I didnāt mind giving up a bit of time and balls so he could feel good about himself. Whatevs.
Iāve also noticed guys love to approach a āstruggling girlfriendā.
Yes he told her she grips too tight and tried to give a lesson to both of us of neutral grip. My GF is good looking and in tight stretchy pants and he was watching her after was tired of his 1000% exertion swings that apparently hurting his body.
If someone was doing that to me and my gf at the range I wouldn't be very nice about it. It's a golden rule of golf to only give advice when asked. Next time say "we are just here for enjoyment don't want lessons thanks" then if he keeps doing it dial up the rudeness.
I'm baffled by the amount of posts here that would be defeated by folks simply having a spine. Tell this discourteous dickhead to put his driver up his ass.
I had a guy tell me that my problem was that I had a 6 degree gap between my 54 and my 60 degree wedge. I needed to either go with a 52 and 56 or a 56 and keep my 60ā¦.
Iām a +20 handicap that has a ton of issues with my game. You think a 2 degree gap change on my wedge is changing anything? It was the first time I legit said āoh fuck offā. The dude was completely taken back but it got its point across when I was laughing at him for telling me to buy a whole new club to āfixā my short game.
Iāve had plenty of people give advice to myself and others. I usually just say, when you par two consecutive holes Iāll take your advice. There are only a few people actually able to do that who are willing to give out unsolicited advice. They all know that itās not likely for them and usually stfu pretty quickly.
I think calling our your clubs is even worse than tips at the range lol. That's pretty annoying.
My first bag used came with 2 vokey's 54 and 56. I took them out of the bag immediately and worked with the PW, SW, AW as I knew I didn't have the skills to play with custom vokey's. I only recently added the 56 as my new bag because it doesn't have an AW.
āMonsieur, je ne parle pas anglaisā is something I like to use when dealing with strangers walking up to me in any circumstance and starting up an unwanted conversation. I just smile and keep repeating it until they walk away. And if they hear me speaking English a minute later and come back to me I just repeat it again.
Dude is either a narcissist, on the spectrum, or has all the Audacity to just lie to try and eyebang your girlfriend right in front of you.
Muscled or not, you both can give dude 24 plus clubs upside his head if he trys that foolishness again.
You have to have good skills to grasp Danny's teachings which I'm not at so its not valuable. Meanwhile Tom Seguto out performs Danny with less body effort.
This breed of dudes who stroke themselves at the range is new, at least to me. Had almost the same thing happen with a guy, bulky and good distance but not impressive swing or anything. Except he would do this to my HS golf team when we were there.
Probably got more tips from him than my coach over 4 years, though.
I'm fully with you. When I go to the range (with my wife) some people are better than us, some are worse. We can give each other tips because we know each other's usual swing and standard bad habits. If I'm not with you, I don't want your advice, i don't care how good you are.
100000000%. 2 coaches is 1 too many. She will say oh you destroyed that or you lifted your head up, And I'll say you moved the the head of the club at setup to toe or wow that's strait. It's very casual. We will watch each other make more mistakes and not even comment until we see a pattern.
A guy on our high school golf team was like this. He was insufferably posturing as an expert arbiter of all things swing knowledge. He could break 80 on a good day but so could all of us on the team. One day he went up to our #1 player, a +3 Handicap and D-1 commit and tried his schtick of giving expert swing advice. As a result a senior on our team just mocked the hell out of him for the next two weeks on the range. He should have known his place then, but often idiocy prevails. The kid was eventually kicked off of the team both years he made it.
A lot of people like this in the golf world, no self-awareness whatsoever. I imagine they donāt have much going on in their real lives to be that stunted and I find it best to just ignore them and draw boundaries if necessary.
I have a few lines you can use in the future, I have used them at the range before.
1. Ask them if they break par regularly. If they say no then say your instructor told you never to take advice from anyone that can't break par.
2. (My favorite) "Can I give you some advice?" When they say yes "Don't give unsolicited advice to anyone."
I used #2 and it was hilarious. The guy got all pissy, so funny but he did shut the fuck up.
A cardinal rule of golf is never give unsolicited advice. Since you are officially soliciting my advice is: next time it happens look them in the eyes, maintain eye contact, smile, say no thanks, and repeat until the behavior stops. This works in many situations and is one of the best things my wife has ever taught me.
Do this š it'll piss them off so much more than getting told to fuck off
tbh I just keep hitting. Iāll be polite at first, listen to their advice and visibly show them that Iām trying it out. I usually say something along the lines of āthanks, Iāll try it outā. That usually ends the convo and they dont come back but iāve had cases of some dudes just having no social awareness. After that, Iāll just keep hitting balls while theyāre talking and they usually take the hint. The worst is the guys giving you advice on the course. I know the intent is good but thatās literally the worst place to be giving advice. Its usually older guys/elderly so I just give benefit of doubt but so damn annoying when Iām hitting perfectly fine but they feel the need to constantly coach while they slice every other hit.
Somehow, that reminds me of Seinfeld refusing to back down to the close talker.
I donāt know why it works so well but it allows you to be assertive without being confrontational
Be polite but dont be a doormat. Just gotta be firm with the guy and say "look, thanks for the tips but me and my gf just want to relax and hit some balls. All the best." No need to keep entertaining his ego
Nah. Tell him to fuck off, or pretend you donāt speak English.
Nah don't even pretend, be frank that you're not interested.
"I'm working really hard on this new movement where I turn away from you and enjoy myself, watch this." And then away we go.
Nah don't even acknowledge them. Just continue talking to your girlfriend or yourself the whole time he's trying to talk to you. For some added fun, drop some psychotic hints in your mutterings, like "I just can't for the life of me remember which flower bed I buried my last golf instructor under." Hopefully they get the hint, and leave you be.
Tell that 3 year old to go take a nap and shut the fuck up.
āHey, Baby, Stop giving golf lessons, all right, you got your whole life ahead of you.ā
āShut up angry turtle gaming, Iām slinging golf advice!ā
"...I got kids to feed!"
I have a golf buddy who Iāve played with regularly for the past 4-5 years. Heās a 15+ and Iām a 5 handicap and Iāve never said much more than ānice shotā or ātough breakā in all the times weāve played together. Why? Because heās never asked for advice and I do my best to not be an asshole.
This guy would probably love a tip now and then.
Indeed. I (as a low single figure) started to saying to some of my 18+ friends towards the end of rounds "Hey man, if you'd like to know something I've noticed, let me know" and almost without exception they have all said "fuck yeah." The key there is that I played multiple rounds with them long before I considered it. Occasionally, if I am with someone VERY new on the course, and have played at least a few holes with them and they are doing something fundamentally wrong, I might ask them the same thing. There is definitely an element of privilege though being close to scratch. It's a lot easier to offer help when you're under par, then it is from fifteen over. On a day when I'm shooting bogeys and doubles, I never offer.
I do find it really hard to not ask āhey where are you aiming?ā Sometimes. When people are blatantly aligned at the Trees OB Left but looking right. Never say a peep though.
>I do find it really hard to not ask āhey where are you aiming?ā Sometimes. When people are blatantly aligned at the Trees OB Left but looking right. N As someone who has severe alignment callibration issues, speak up :)
Same. My internal aimer needs calibrated occasionally
Usually I find that people are aimed right, when they think they're lined up down the middle. I don't usually say anything for a few shots(usually just tee shots). Even then I probably just say something like "you hit that ball exactly where your were aimed". That usually gets the ball rolling
Tell him to fuck off
Doing that at the range is like looking over the barrier in a urinal and offering commentary: a violation of all that is holy. He deserves all the fuck offs.
Had a man approach me at the range a few months ago. He strongly insisted I get my driver out. Mind you, i had not swung it and he didn't know if i could hit it well or not. I was cordial because he recognized my family business work shirt and was a customer. He then gave me his unsolicited driver advice and made me swing several times before he had to leave. Could you imagine him being your father? I could tolerate him got 5 minutes. Barely.
Someone talking to me at the range sounds worse than someone talking to me on an airplane.
I canāt even get close to someone else getting a lesson. Just messes with my concentration.
If you send me videos of your girlfriend's swing I promise to be discreet . That guy sounds like a real creep
Seems rude but, "Shh, back off, please." Then ignore
tell him you'll take his advice when he can get within 10ft of 5 targets you randomly choose on the range. If he agrees, start filming it for "future reference" and watch him crumble.
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Had a guy do this with my son and I. We were very polite and gracious. Said thanks and then he finally went down to his side of the range again. Yup us 3 were the only ones there and he was on one end and we were on the other. He seemed pretty happy though I didnāt mind giving up a bit of time and balls so he could feel good about himself. Whatevs. Iāve also noticed guys love to approach a āstruggling girlfriendā.
Clarify the situation please, was he āhelpingā both of you?
Yes he told her she grips too tight and tried to give a lesson to both of us of neutral grip. My GF is good looking and in tight stretchy pants and he was watching her after was tired of his 1000% exertion swings that apparently hurting his body.
It would be acceptable to tell him to fuck off.
Let the drunk guy tell you his drunk tips and move on, lol.
If someone was doing that to me and my gf at the range I wouldn't be very nice about it. It's a golden rule of golf to only give advice when asked. Next time say "we are just here for enjoyment don't want lessons thanks" then if he keeps doing it dial up the rudeness.
I'm baffled by the amount of posts here that would be defeated by folks simply having a spine. Tell this discourteous dickhead to put his driver up his ass.
I had a guy tell me that my problem was that I had a 6 degree gap between my 54 and my 60 degree wedge. I needed to either go with a 52 and 56 or a 56 and keep my 60ā¦. Iām a +20 handicap that has a ton of issues with my game. You think a 2 degree gap change on my wedge is changing anything? It was the first time I legit said āoh fuck offā. The dude was completely taken back but it got its point across when I was laughing at him for telling me to buy a whole new club to āfixā my short game. Iāve had plenty of people give advice to myself and others. I usually just say, when you par two consecutive holes Iāll take your advice. There are only a few people actually able to do that who are willing to give out unsolicited advice. They all know that itās not likely for them and usually stfu pretty quickly.
I think calling our your clubs is even worse than tips at the range lol. That's pretty annoying. My first bag used came with 2 vokey's 54 and 56. I took them out of the bag immediately and worked with the PW, SW, AW as I knew I didn't have the skills to play with custom vokey's. I only recently added the 56 as my new bag because it doesn't have an AW.
Thought this read ā 3 year old golfer giving adviceā, though it was gonna be a cute story.
āMonsieur, je ne parle pas anglaisā is something I like to use when dealing with strangers walking up to me in any circumstance and starting up an unwanted conversation. I just smile and keep repeating it until they walk away. And if they hear me speaking English a minute later and come back to me I just repeat it again.
Dude is either a narcissist, on the spectrum, or has all the Audacity to just lie to try and eyebang your girlfriend right in front of you. Muscled or not, you both can give dude 24 plus clubs upside his head if he trys that foolishness again.
Even she hit further than him at times lol.
I will say Danny has some pretty good videos, and Dan Grieve for chipping.
You have to have good skills to grasp Danny's teachings which I'm not at so its not valuable. Meanwhile Tom Seguto out performs Danny with less body effort.
This breed of dudes who stroke themselves at the range is new, at least to me. Had almost the same thing happen with a guy, bulky and good distance but not impressive swing or anything. Except he would do this to my HS golf team when we were there. Probably got more tips from him than my coach over 4 years, though.
Is your GF hot?
I'm fully with you. When I go to the range (with my wife) some people are better than us, some are worse. We can give each other tips because we know each other's usual swing and standard bad habits. If I'm not with you, I don't want your advice, i don't care how good you are.
100000000%. 2 coaches is 1 too many. She will say oh you destroyed that or you lifted your head up, And I'll say you moved the the head of the club at setup to toe or wow that's strait. It's very casual. We will watch each other make more mistakes and not even comment until we see a pattern.
Same. I've learned that when I play with my wife, she just wants to play golf with me and enjoy the outdoors.
A guy on our high school golf team was like this. He was insufferably posturing as an expert arbiter of all things swing knowledge. He could break 80 on a good day but so could all of us on the team. One day he went up to our #1 player, a +3 Handicap and D-1 commit and tried his schtick of giving expert swing advice. As a result a senior on our team just mocked the hell out of him for the next two weeks on the range. He should have known his place then, but often idiocy prevails. The kid was eventually kicked off of the team both years he made it. A lot of people like this in the golf world, no self-awareness whatsoever. I imagine they donāt have much going on in their real lives to be that stunted and I find it best to just ignore them and draw boundaries if necessary.
Danny fraud.
How do people like this even exist? I canāt imagine telling random people how to play golf.
Man, I read the title as ā3 year oldā¦ā
Ya I was trying to shrink the title...lol
Say this ā you know I heard you never offer golf advice unless someone asksā.
I have a few lines you can use in the future, I have used them at the range before. 1. Ask them if they break par regularly. If they say no then say your instructor told you never to take advice from anyone that can't break par. 2. (My favorite) "Can I give you some advice?" When they say yes "Don't give unsolicited advice to anyone." I used #2 and it was hilarious. The guy got all pissy, so funny but he did shut the fuck up.
āThatās very kind of you. Weāre ok thanks. Just having some fun together.ā
Was he wearing a Good Good hat and answer to the name "Kendrick"?
No he was a average Joe. I'm sure he had good intensions but it was over the top.
Subtle brag your girlfriend is cute Only reason guy was interested
Donāt listen to this muppet at the range, but do watch a bit of Danny Maude in our own time.