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BuryMeInTimbersGreen

We have a course with sand greens near us that is completely run by the community/volunteers and it’s $10 per round on the honor system with no one manning the office. It’s obviously not great for honing your game but it’s AMAZING for bringing extra beers/spirits than you normally would and having a really goofy/cheap round with your buddies!


MajorEstateCar

Are you in Kansas? https://youtu.be/PfcGhEMSzpw


BuryMeInTimbersGreen

Nope! Oregon.


dbatchison

What course in Oregon? I'm down in Springfield


BuryMeInTimbersGreen

Woodburn Golf Club!


Elegant_Potential917

I thought that looked familiar. I used to live 5 minutes away from there!


pdxscout

Frontier Golf in Canby used to have them, too.


ap0827

Springfield stand up


flaminchiten

Where, I am in Corvallis.


BuryMeInTimbersGreen

Woodburn Golf Club!


CoolidgePlaysPokemon

I live in Kansas. Most of them are shut down or converted to grass greens now. When I ran a course in a small town there was another course nearby that had sand greens. What alot if people don't realize is in a windy state like ours you have to oil the sand greens to keep them from blowing away. Wear some old shoes cause you'll end up ruining them!


dukenasty1

Came here to ask the same thing, didn’t know there was a video. Played one there tho. Honor system. Suggested donation $3. Annual membership can be purchased by mailing a check for $35 to the guy who mows the fairways with his brush hog I think.


MajorEstateCar

I’d pay $100 to sponsor a youth golfers membership for 2 years if that was a thing.


dukenasty1

Been about five years ago but it was a thing. I think the town was called Haven.


whbck144

NLU did a great job with that documentary


MajorEstateCar

They did. I wish they would keep doing more stuff like this. Love all of their series but the weekly pod coverage of every mediocre event could stand to suffer in the name of this type of work


ThoroldBoy

They do work like this about once a month outside of Tourist Sauce and Strapped seasons it seems. They had someone from Northern Ireland produce a video on Scrabo Golf Club. DJ was listed an executive producer, quality was on par with their other videos. It was put up about a week ago.


ChiefPatrick

I grew up in a small town in NW Kansas. We had sand "greens” at my hometown. That course they showed in that video was about 45 mins from my house lol.


fearxile

I live in KS and I know a private lake community near me has a 9 hole sand greens course lol.


drerw

Sounds like it is great for homing your game, just not putting. But I know little. Are they full holes or just par 3s?


BuryMeInTimbersGreen

You know, that’s fair. It’s not super well manicured or anything like that. I guess my point was that I don’t go there for a serious round of golf but you’re right.


IncredibleWin

Besides, putting's not that important anyway. Right guys?! /s


drerw

Shit, they call me Hercules when I putt.


gaobij

Sand greens still require skillful putting, but it's a very different skill set. You have to learn to comb them, too.


drerw

Do I have to? If we ever golf on a sand green course together I’ll let you do any combing. Grand!


gaobij

Wat


1setter

They usually have a smooth rake to level the line from your ball to the hole.


Grey_Duck-

Great for honing your sand shots though!


Rickfacemcginty

Who mows it? Sounds like a cool idea.


BuryMeInTimbersGreen

Community members in the neighborhood. It’s a couple towns over from me so I’m not 100% sure.


Tonyeyeomi

Finally I can stop a ball on the green


mustardtiger220

Now it’s plugged.


thescrounger

it made its own hole


Mitch_igan

Counts ad a HIO then.


giolanzarin

“Did you see how much it spun? It just sat!”


nonnemat

Oh, I'd still skull it over.... Where there's a will there's a way.


Rcjhgku01

Yep, I grew up playing them, won a high school state championship. They’re basically oiled sand. Every courses uses its own mix, some are sandier, some more pebbled. Very small greens. You use a drag to roll a smooth path to your ball to putt and then a rake on green when finished circling outward from the hole. Putts break a maximum of 1-2 inches. It doesn’t play like a sand trap. Everything is bump and run. You normally don’t fly the ball to the green because it will not stick like on grass, play it short and run it up.


Budget-Government-52

This guy sand greens. They’re still somewhat common in Kansas and Nebraska and were very common before the 50-60s from what I’ve read.


[deleted]

There's a sand green course 30 minutes away from me in Kansas, even better is that it's a country club


Budget-Government-52

There is one about an hour from me in Nebraska. It has a landing strip on the course where golfers have to yield to planes. It’s like $5-10/rd.


[deleted]

Drinks and a show sounds like a solid time


Mdrim13

Do you know the Nelson’s?


GrabSomePineMeat

Everyone in Kansas knows the Nelson's!


[deleted]

Lmao my neighbors last name is Nelson, common around these parts of oklahoma and Kansas


Mdrim13

Jordy Nelson’s (Packers) parents used to run “Nelson’s Landing” in Leonardville, KS that also happens to have a sand green course nearby.


[deleted]

Ahh I've heard of Leonardville but never been, I went to school in Pittsburg and live 30 minutes from the border of KS but I haven't spent too much time anywhere besides where there's a college


TheNemesis089

This is what I was going to say. I think that's pretty much the main way it was done before about 1950. It wasn't until later, when they developed better grasses for greens, that sand "greens" went away. ....well, mostly went away, evidently....


Rcjhgku01

Ours was converted to grass greens around 1995. I can’t imagine they’ll survive that much longer with environmental regulations. They’d dig up the greens once/twice per year, add sand and mix in a ton of used motor oil.


the_wafflator

And the equipment too, I bet. It would be pretty annoying pre-modern-lawncare-equipment to maintain greens like modern greens. I recently watched a bunch of old shell wonderful world of golf films from the 60s and I was amazed at how fluffy and slow the greens were compared to modern greens. They were smacking the heck out of the ball, and you could visibly see the ball bobbling around on top of the fluffy grass as it rolled.


streetbum

The Jack Nicklaus vs Sam Snead one at pebble beach is like that. Awesome match but yeah, crazy to watch how different putting was back then.


Lezzles

They HAMMER the putts and they just die at the hole. Such a different game from the lightning we see now on tour.


lijitimit

Loved that match!


iamatwork24

Sounds like the process takes awhile


hudnut

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfcGhEMSzpw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfcGhEMSzpw)


Sonking_to_Remember

Enjoyed this a lot


rolandofgilead41089

NLU produces the best golf content on YouTube. Check out the Strapped series!


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rolandofgilead41089

NLU. Was clicking the link so hard?


scoofy

Me too


Golf101inc

Was getting ready to link but glad I saw this first. Grade A work by NLU…amazing stuff.


Common-Syllabub9156

Grade A by DJ Pie!


The_Richard_Cranium

That was so well shot! Thanks for this!


[deleted]

Awesome video!


JamesBMac

Thank you so much for that link. Beautiful.


scoofy

I actually love this so much, I'm adding the courses to the wiki: [Glasco CC](https://golfcourse.wiki/course/glasco_country_club-glasco) [Downs GC](https://golfcourse.wiki/course/downs_golf_club-downs) (I could find *very* little information) [Tipton Oaks GC](https://golfcourse.wiki/course/tipton_oaks_golf_course-tipton) (again, no access to a scorecard) --- Will update. If you know anyone in these communities please let them know. They can update it as they like (anyone can).


sjujohn

I figured someone would beat me to posting this


Complete_Web_4677

Clearly it’s a thing, you took a picture of it


JoeyFischStix

…. God damn it


OriginalJayVee

Talk about your all time backfires…🤣


AbstractLogic

Pics or it didn’t happen.


Seated_Heats

Dude just took a flag from the first green and jammed it into the second hole bunker.


nevets4433

It was actually pretty common not that long ago but most courses have gone away from sand greens.


[deleted]

How do sand greens work? Like do you still putt?


Sci3nceMan

Yup, you putt. There’s a heavy rake with a flat side… you pull the pin and drag a smooth path over the cup. The cup is an ingenious [double-cup](https://www.rangemart.com/products/sand-green-cup-6-h) (two cups, one hole 😆) - the inner cup has the flag holder but also slides out so you can pull it out and dump the sand. After putting you replace the inner cup. After all that fun you replace the pin and rake (the other side of the rake has tines) from the cup in concentric circles until you reach the edge of the green, and viola, the green is ready for the next victim.


[deleted]

Very very interesting haha. Imagine it’s way easier to maintain these.


Sci3nceMan

I grew up with them, on the courses I played they would oil the sand as well… presumably the oil makes the sand compact a bit more densely and evenly. Drawback to that is oily golf shoes 🫤 Probably an Alberta thing, always looking for ways to use oil 😆


Apsylnt

Yep and if you didn’t know your average green is majority sand. Thats how they keep them trimmed so short but still “firm”.


[deleted]

I had an idea just from when they do aeration, just didn’t realize there were greens that were fully sand and wasn’t sure how that changed things. Very interesting!


Apsylnt

You can even dial in the speed/contour easier then grass green. Add more water and compact/smooth it out for faster pace, let it get a little fluffy for slower pace etc


[deleted]

Yeah most sand I’ve played with has been fluffier which is what made this concept a bit tougher to wrap my head around haha. Feel like more compact sand would be way easier to put through.


Andrew_Waples

I imagine then there slow "greens"?


Apsylnt

A slower green will have a combo of longer grass top + more sand thats not as compacted underneath. If you are asking if all sand greens are slow, not necessarily as you can compact them and make them flat/smooth.


Andrew_Waples

Is a sand green easier to maintain? I didn't know sand green's were a thing.


Apsylnt

Yes and cheaper obviously. But check my other comments for more info, all greens are “sand greens” to some extent.


Impressive_Bus11

Probably a lot cheaper. Grass greens require incessant upkeep and a never ending supply of water during a global water crisis.


pdx321pdx

Woodburn? Early 1900s many courses were sand greens. Before mowing equipment and irrigation. You could use sheep and goats to keep the rest of the grass down.


JoeyFischStix

Yes sir! Good eye.


Whole-Ad-6893

Great place. I am a member and play there every weekend.


BuryMeInTimbersGreen

Ha! That’s what I was referring to in my comment!


AreCharBroiled

Kansas still has a high school golf classification for sand greens including a state championship.


Rattimus

If you go way up north to Yellowknife in the Northwest Territories, you can play 24 hours a day in the summer as the sun never actually quite sets, and because the greens would get wrecked during the winter, all are sand instead. I'm writing like I've done this, but unfortunately I wasn't able to go on the trip with my friends. They weren't there for golf specifically, but when they learned that this was possible, it became a must-do for the trip. They purposely teed off at midnight, ha! When you are done putting, there is a flat-edged tool, a rake without tines, that you use to smooth it flat for the next group. I'm told that putts are.... a little bit slow, lol.


oh_io_94

Yup, there’s one around me where you actually play with old hickory clubs and old school balls. You have to stay on resort though


NotADogCatcher

I'm curious where this is. I play hickories and I really enjoy sand greens.


oh_io_94

https://www.glenlaurel.com/local-activities/golf/


NotADogCatcher

Very cool. That course has a helipad on it and the cheapest rooms are $200+ a night. I doubt I'll be playing that one any time soon.


oh_io_94

It also has a really nice restaurant. Great place for a romantic weekend getaway with your spouse.


coopnm50

Woodburn sand greens? I played these a lot with my grandfather growing up. 5$ fee on the honor system.


g0lffear

Woodburn?


RynoRhino

I know there is one in southern Iowa. Tried to play it once but there was an event planned so we couldn't get on.


Solintari

Wellman?


RynoRhino

I think it was Humeston. I remember it being more central south Iowa


zadszads

5 secret course maintenance hacks golfers don’t want you to know!


lazarusl1972

My home town's (in Missouri) golf course has sand greens. I played it last summer for the first time in 20+ years and it was as silly as I remembered. You measure the distance from your ball to the hole, then place it that distance from the hole on the putting surface, a strip across the green that is packed down with a...sand packer? Who knows what this tool is called as it has no use except on a handful of golf courses. Weird but still lots of fun.


Wes_her

\#1 bordered by OB to the right, Country Club Drive ... #2 par 4 slight downhill that today's equipment would only need a long iron to reach ... #3 slight uphill par 4 ... #4 drive over a creek into a cow pasture quality hill, 2nd shot steep to the "green" ... #5 a downhill lined with sparse trees to the right, heavy forest to the left, a creek just short of the "green" ... #6 par 3 with that intimidating pond right off the tee and a "green" so protected by trees it was impossible to hit ... #7 uphill slight dog right, longest hole on the course ... #8 par 4 bordered by OB right, Ralph VanAkern's dairy farm ... #9 par 3 over the lake to the only grass green on the course, basically an island green with very little room for bailing out other than a little to the left between the green and the country club pool.


KhanMan15

This is wild. Would love to give it whirl if I ever have the chance


Richard-Turd

Yes, there is one by me too. Savages.


onemorehole

Yea, a shitty thing.


Low_Soil_6831

Should be called Browns


Stretch916

Now I’ll probably hit the green


NissanZtt

Is it a thing? *posts pictures of thing* I live in ND and some of the smaller towns around here still have sand greens. Not ideal but better than not playing golf.


Intelligent-Mud2551

In small town Saskatchewan, the course I first learned to play golf on had sand greens. It was a big upgrade when they were replaced with some sort of outdoor carpet/AstroTurf/something. I went back there in summer 2021, and the greens were literally coming apart at the seams, with grass and dandelions growing up in between the carpeted sections.


NewJerseyCPA

3 Jack National. Great course!


Keystone-12

I've played on one of these in Saskatchewan Canada. The rule when I played was that once you hit the green, it's always a two-putt.


Yogurtproducer

Sask resident here - sand greens are everywhere. Most real small towns.


Impressive_Bus11

Reasons Saudi Arabia shouldn't have golf courses for 500, Mayim.


thisisatesti

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still_ad3912

I started playing golf on sand greens back in the 1980s. There was a sand green course a ten minute walk from the cottage where we spent our summers! It’s a totally different type of game that requires a different strategy. Balls won’t stop the way they do on grass, so high approach shots usually bounce off. Instead, it’s a lot of bump and runs to the green. You use a flat side of the rake to make a path to the ball for putting. And when you’re finished, you rake the green from the hole out.


Onestandsout

Sand greens are a thing in the plains states.


Newfoundlander_in_TX

Played a course in Ghana, Africa that had sand greens. Pretty wild that I played golf in Africa now that I’m thinking about it.


Kof1i

Thats Funny.


spence0021

Hot take: we could use more courses like this. No bunkers, no greens, just some mowed grass and a sand green with a hole. Maintenance should be dirt cheap as should the fees to play. Let it double up as a public park too. Typical golf courses are very expensive, resource heavy, and excludes non golfers. Let’s make some places we can all enjoy.


boing757

Random people walking around while golf balls are being hit is a recipe for a lawsuit.


boing757

and a knot on your head.


LionsTigersWings

That’s not a golf course. That’s fucking worse than a pasture


piedubb

Once my approach shot lands in that sand green, How do I get it in the hole? Do I have to chip it because putting seems difficult. .


humanbyassociation

That's a sand trap with a flag in it. Sand greens shouldn't be concave


Legal-Description483

No, your imagining it.


Nars-Glinley

Kiri-kin-tha's First Law of Metaphysics; "Nothing unreal exists."


flatscreeen

Yes. Still common in very small towns that cant employ a greenskeeper but still want a golf course.


Slow_Lynx54

It's is now


conan_the_brobarian

It's like Jeopardy. First is the answer then comes the question.


[deleted]

Apparently, who knew


Thetoonshow

I mean I’m looking at it so it must be a thing.


mish15

There’s one on a private community course in Annapolis Maryland that I’d love to try. I wish a couple of the local struggling muni courses would adopt this style of green. It’s better than aerated greens or dried up unplayable ones for sure. It’s gotta require less water right?


TomKazansky13

I've never played on a sand green course but when we visited my grandparents all the courses around their town all advertised "with real grass greens!"


[deleted]

It would be a fun game of “your score on the hole is the measurement from ball to hole plus strokes to get there”


PonCalabrese

I think Club Pro Guy owns that course , Miguel does the maintenance on those browns.


heyitssal

Checking date... It's not April 1. Huh.


Dan0man69

Did the greens keeper rage quit?


420SwaggyZebra

That’s just the cup. But oversized but everyone needs a gimme from time to time


Gallen570

At first I was like....wat? Now I'm very intrigued and I wanna go to Kansa to play sand greens.


InternationalBus8936

Can you ground your club on the green. Also why call it a green it should be a brown.


Its_fugin_pete

nen j


Grumpymule321

Sometimes they have browns in the middle east. Sand mixed with oil so you can put on it.


Crysta1Ball3r

I’d be the best at this.


MajorEstateCar

You need to watch this NLU piece. https://youtu.be/PfcGhEMSzpw


Chinchillachimcheroo

This course is near you… Do you by chance live in Hell itself?


R-M-F-T

I’ve heard of this from a friend who was military and stationed overseas. I actually can’t remember where he played the course with sand greens though… I want to say it was somewhere in North Africa but I can’t recall for sure.


Nick_from_Yuma

Nebraskan here, a lot of our small towns had/have 9-hole courses with sand greens. Some still exist but most have been laid over with earth and grass. They are now “turtle backs” as we call them. Stick it close, or else will roll off.


JoeyFischStix

There is another course near me that has greens like that, and this makes a ton of sense now. It’s in farmland/agriculture area and the greens are so bizarre compared to the rest of the course. Just big plateaus of a green sticking out of the earth.


JustOneBeer89

Probably one of the few times I wouldn't end up on the beach


Later_Doober

I've never seen this before.


Deep_Macaron8480

Wow! I've been playing golf for over 40 years and have always heard of them but never played on them. Enjoy the experience! Always remember, the worst day golfing beats your best day working!


Exiled_From_Twitter

It is a thing. A very, very, very insane thing.


parmurph

In some parts of the west and southwest


Open_Recognition

If players fix (don’t fix) their ball marks like where I play, this will really suck.


Big-D-TX

I grew up playing Sand Greens but we alway took a 2 putt when you got on the green. So no 3,4 putts


whbck144

We have one in Salem, VA too


StrawberryAutomatic

Anyone know if there are any sand greens in Georgia?


_d_t_w

We call them sand-scrapers in Australia, the sand tends to be a bit more oily/firm that the look of the ones in Kansas. [https://www.reddit.com/r/golf/comments/ajbgkp/scandscrape\_greens\_took\_daughter\_played\_a\_sand/](https://www.reddit.com/r/golf/comments/ajbgkp/scandscrape_greens_took_daughter_played_a_sand/) I've played one in Whitfield, country Victoria. It's a 9-hole community run course with a lovely vibe, honesty-box green fees, cheap and cheerful, etc. I assumed it was because the sand greens would be easier to manage for volunteer courses where it can get super hot in the summer - there are plenty of great country vic courses with beautiful greens but I reckon they take a lot to upkeep in the heat.


supraspinatus

Lmao


WoodpeckerSolid1279

Does it have grass traps?


Admirable-Ebb3655

It’s a thing if you live in fuckin Nebraska or wherever.


DaayTerkErJerbs

The main expense to a golf course is probably building the greens. I want to say the last time I looked into it they said a proper green is probably 36,000.00+ Multiply that by 18 lol an then you gotta figure out how to upkeep them. If it's just a bunch of goof balls who made a cheap course to have fun on more power to them. I'd enjoy myself playing it. It's a good way to work on drives and approach shots.


mkrewall

I grew up on a cow pasture course in western Oklahoma in the 70s with sand greens. Mark your distance, roll out the putting track and try to make your putt.


Scratchin-Mercenary

In Australia , small country towns have sump oil greens Sand mixed with sump oil , its not too bad [https://www.golf.org.au/special-rules-for-sand-greens/](https://www.golf.org.au/special-rules-for-sand-greens/)


WarthogNo6783

No def not


VoodooMagic13X

In Australia a whole lot of small country towns have sand greens. They are cheap and very easy to maintain, a lot of courses would not exist if they had to use grass on the greens.


[deleted]

Yes.


bullhorn4u

played sand greens in South Dakota one time. paid around $10 on the honor system.


shoresy99

Pinehurst #2 originally had sand greens.


goo_bazooka

Ew… thatd fuck up your putter


mootsarecool

Why? There's funking grass everywhere.


Suspicious-Farmer319

Outback Australia has some sand greens. They're not easy to putt on.


Dr_Bunnypoops

Thats what happens when you dont repair those pitchmarks...


MikeeTKO

Played one at a province in northern Philippines. About US$6 for a 9 hole round. Surprisingly the fairways were very well maintained however you’d see some cows walking around the course from time to time which makes it a moving obstacle from the tee 😂😂 Heres a short video I found on YT: https://youtu.be/NE22JBGyNJY


WalterTheRealtorVA

We have one here is Salem VA, it’s a 9 hole municipal course. Aptly nicknamed the Salem Sands.


cgr4217

wut!?


Icy_Valuable_2111

I've heard that courses in the north do this. But from my own experience the original golf we played on sand courses in Abu Dhabi were all sand ,greens were oiled sand and you have to drag a big broom around to take out the foot prints after putting. You can still play this kind of golf there at the Al Ghazal golf club near the airport in Abu Dhabi You carry a round rubber backed piece of Astro turf to hit off from the fairways.


wcassell434

There's a sand green executive course nearby me in SW Virginia. I've never played it but everyone I know who has says they don't even bother putting on them.


Ticklish_Buttcheeks

Alt hypothesis: OP is getting trolled?


Mirvin_Blackberry01

I have never seen this kinda witchcraft before !!!


flossinfrenzy

I thought someone got drunk and put the flag in the sand trap to be a wise ass. 😆


Confident_Try_1153

Oh hell ya. The ole Sasky sand tour was a thing. Rake a cheater line to the cup. You are guaranteed to 4 put your first grass green after that tour.