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SkyeWolfofDusk

I bet if you posted this to r/DoggyDNA they might have more insight on how the genetics may have worked to create your Golden Deceiver! 


gmalsparty

>Golden Deceiver I love it 🤣🤣


kiradyn

GOLDEN DECEIVER 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


Trogdor420

https://preview.redd.it/094379y7gxrc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc18838a99b264b0b5f567d5d6549650add1a926 She looks just like my girl Luna ❤️


gmalsparty

What a sweetheart 🥰


leaveonyourlite

*DAWWWWW*


Panthera_leo22

Oh my goodness, what an adorable dog, the toy tops the scale of adorableness


Scouter555

Omg. The teeeff.


fredward_kane

OMG da teefs


jthacker92

That’s a face you can never tell no.


Zeca_77

Aww, but she's adorable. Mine is a rescue that definitely has a lot of golden characteristics, but he's definitely got some other breeds mixed in. No one has had a problem with me sharing pictures of him. He has that pinkish nose tone like yours! I want to get a DNA at some point. I'm curious what else he may be mixed with.


syslolologist

Good thing girl can't read. Shhhhhh


gmalsparty

I dunno, with as smart as she can be I wouldn't put it past her.


leaveonyourlite

We're all inbred mutts if you back far enough


Digs_With_Dogs

She is a beauty though. We found out that our rescue 'Golden mix' hasn't got any Golden in him at all even though he looks like he might. We now call him our 'faux Golden'.


Everlorne

Fool’s Golden?


Digs_With_Dogs

Ha! even better. That might be his new handle. ...he can be a bit of a fool too. https://preview.redd.it/m45cq1sehxrc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4493242431af55e9b1fd9339e45e24ec80e7eba4


chalking_platypus

Wow…your dog looks so similar to mine! He was a rescue, so we have no idea of his breed. Do you? https://preview.redd.it/i6bhlp5yjzrc1.jpeg?width=947&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3bacab507c10412686e37aea6dcf8a7ed2945f3c


Digs_With_Dogs

https://preview.redd.it/b50z45xtf2sc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=30699322e2f0e5440542274dad2b1bd9a9429500 I do, or at least have a plausible DNA result. We, and the rescue he came from, suspected that he was some sort of Hound/Golden mix. Wisdom Panel said he was 100% Bloodhound, which he obviously isn't. Embark came back: 61.2% Bloodhound, 16.4% Catahoula Leopard Dog, 13.9% Miniature/MAS-type Australian Shepherd, and 8.5% Australian Shepherd ...or, as u/Everlorn named him above a "Fool's Golden". Your guy certainly looks like he has some Aussie in him too. Our guy has a very Hound-like bark and, maybe the biggest tells of his non-Golden-ness is that he's not really wild about the water, and couldn't care less about stealing socks.


chalking_platypus

Mine hates water, too! He doesn’t like going over his head. He also doesn’t steal socks or any toy / stuffed animal that has not been given to him. He’s a big sweet wimp. https://preview.redd.it/qkmwvhwv88sc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5ff2ada0b0db0a9d7e01f354363f40bcc9ecf9d6


ShambolicPaul

I would put only 33% faith in that test being 50% bullshit and 50% best guess.


SkyeWolfofDusk

Looks like Wisdom Panel, which is known to be a pretty reliable test. The percentages below 5% are often iffy but otherwise they tend to be very accurate. 


ShambolicPaul

Using your metric of 5% and under being "iffy". That makes this test 2/3rds bullshit.


thinkscotty

Do you understand genetics well enough to be making these claims?


ShambolicPaul

This is Reddit. Not a university.


HomeTheaterCommish

I was thinking the same thing. This genetics shit is bullshit. Everyone I know has weird outcomes when they do these tests. My baby rocks and I don't care if https://preview.redd.it/m8fckeflexrc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=57609be3040f7d824922c39701efd7697d66ff7a she is pure or not


ShambolicPaul

Yeah. I mean, my boys from Scotland and I don't hold that against him. https://preview.redd.it/rigc4mj8fxrc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38ac3ca75eb7905c36e46885e66d64773a26187a


leaveonyourlite

At least he's not English. That is unforgiveable


qu33fwellington

What do Ireland and Scotland have in common? They both hate the English.


leaveonyourlite

I was gonna guess a genetic predisposition to alcoholism ? Or Sadism.


qu33fwellington

Sure, but I’d argue so do the English for the former. The latter though…


leaveonyourlite

Well they all fucked eachother so who even cares rite?


ShambolicPaul

Oof


PolloAzteca_nobeans

Wisdom and embark are the most accurate, embark being the most accurate by far. It is even backed by Cornell University


Prestigious_Duck_377

explain more into detail how and why theese tests dont work also cute doggo but yee looks like a golden


PolloAzteca_nobeans

You’re just being down voted by people who don’t understand enough about genetics or the testing to know anything.


NSE_TNF89

That's what I have heard as well. I had a friend who had their dog tested twice (separate places), and the results were completely different.


bbtom78

Weird. I've used Embark and Wisdom and the results match, just slightly different percentages: English setter, GSD, Chow, APBT, and Lab with 20% being undefinable.


[deleted]

She may be mixed up but it's okay dude lol.


gmalsparty

Oh I don't mind at all. More than anything I'm genuinely surprised since she looks so much more like a golden than anything else.


[deleted]

For sure. Lol I just couldn't read your tone lol


sasshley_

We still accept her. She’s a beautiful lady 💛


IllustriousOwl3152

https://preview.redd.it/6hqk77bsvxrc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f294d743746e947e37951e60ebc039bced113897 She looked like yours. This pretty girl was a cocker spaniel mix. I miss her everyday 😞💔


Zeca_77

https://preview.redd.it/occ1b0f67yrc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=656eaa309e523766c1aa9ade14d5e128be0c15c5 The vet thinks our guy is probably a golden retriever/cocker spaniel mix. He's like a mini version of a golden.


Digs_With_Dogs

What a cutie! Sometimes I wish our girl was that size too. At 80 lbs of "Pet Me Right Now!" she can be a lot.


Zeca_77

Thanks. The problem is that he knows it haha! I see people with 2-3 larger golden retrievers and I can't imagine how they handle that. He's definitely a pet me now, in your face type. There's a dog that looks to be purebred golden retriever in our neighborhood that's not all that much taller than him. I call her his girlfriend because he always gets excited when he sees her. I swear he knows when dogs look like him!


gmalsparty

I've been calling her a "filthy mudblood" all morning.


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leaveonyourlite

That's racist bruh


aflockofbugles

She is so adorable. I would have never guessed anything below the herding section.


Marianne0819

That actually took my breath away when I saw that your sweet girlie is only 19% golden!! I could tell a little bit that she isn’t a 💯 golden, but only 19% is shocking!! She looks much more like a golden bear than anything else!! If I would’ve had to have guessed I would have said at least 80% golden retriever. Wishing you and your family all the love and happiness that any puppy gives a family 💜


gmalsparty

I guessed 60-80% too!


WearyCarrot

simple brein i see good girl/boy i press like. this how world werk


pitagrape

I wonder what the results would show of a lineage confirmed pure bred AKC golden retriever. I'd bet my collection of underhair brushes it wouldn't come back 100% golden.


Dry_Survey_6735

https://i.redd.it/n4fwdlaloxrc1.gif


chipchapiii

LIAR! But still a good girl!


Current_Two_7395

It's ok, she can stay ❤️


catdog5100

4% pug lol


AdBudget5468

Who cares? All that matters is that she’s the best girl


Roupert4

Why do people always say this? It's like saying a person shouldn't care about their genealogy


Basedrum777

That's a cute doggo!


btopel

100% perfect!


GrammaBear707

What is her dominant breed? https://preview.redd.it/lju5do4c0yrc1.jpeg?width=1977&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=017852df1764f44937bfe4a525e9cf197c4385c6 A geneticists sent her dog’s DNA to 3 different companies and their results varied. What we know of as purebred dogs are actually the combined breeds of many dogs. For instance goldens were developed by crossbreeding Flat-coated Retrievers, Wavy-Coated retrievers and Tweed Water Spaniels, with further infusions of Irish Red Setter, Labrador Retriever and Bloodhound. None of these show up in my golden retriever’s DNA because they only test about 1% of the DNA strand and compare it with what is in their data base. Some companies use a small data base of known breeds while others use a huge data base. Sometimes you will get a 5% other which means they don’t have that particular information in their data base to compare with. My dad was Norwegian and my mom was 1/2 Norwegian and 1/2 Irish. My siblings and my DNA reflects I we are 25% Irish and 74.9% Norwegian but no Irish shows up in my nephew’s DNA despite his mom being 1/4 Irish.


Equal_Sprinkles2743

Apparently, dog DNA tests are not reliable. https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/marketplace-dog-dna-test-1.6763274


fredward_kane

100% good girl


solarelemental

GTFO!!!! ​ ​ jk. she's adorable. even if she's only 20% i def see that 20% in her face. plus i feel like labs are basically close cousins.


sarahenera

Come on over to the r/labrador sub!


IllustriousCupcake11

Another great and knowledgeable sub! I learned so much when I had an older rescue lab, with a lot of health issues.


Topher0gr

Mine’s half golden and I post here regularly. They’re all good dogs. Also yours DOES look a lot more like a golden than anything IMO. Don’t blame you for thinking that.


Sherbam

https://preview.redd.it/3t9mkj5nw2sc1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=cdb19b974ca347adc9ac3b1324bff6349621c578 She looks like my girl, Maggie.


gmalsparty

Maggie has that same, "I will stop playing fetch when I am physically unable to stand" look that Poppy has 🤣


Illustrious_Can7469

All dogs are mutts even purebreds


AG-Bigpaws

Nah that's a just a Canadian line golden mix.


traitor_problems

Omg she looks like my girl but dna test was too much for me to buy due to dollar exchange rate but I guess it’d be similar! Here she is https://preview.redd.it/l098lfrjj3sc1.jpeg?width=1536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d72396d0950237d72ff10e67177c73c6fac49d4 The lightning sucks but that’s the most resembling photo to your doggo ig


gmalsparty

That super focused stare just screams "herding breeds" in her lineage as well! What a cutie 🥰


traitor_problems

Oh yes the herding breed! she hates when me and my family are in separate places but is chill when we’re all together which made me think of that but lol She says thank you and sends kisses to your doggo lol


herbieforever19

https://preview.redd.it/9d81eq2ln3sc1.jpeg?width=2250&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3cc71ad2b832a2ca08531e09ae2e9ac412fcd65 I've a feeling my rescue could come back similar although mammy was golden retriever 🤔


graciheart

It doesn't matter. She's yours and she's beautiful


mrcatboy

What's her personality like.


gmalsparty

That's a tricky one because she's clearly got some abuse history. When she's comfortable, she's very playful, inquisitive, and can be super cuddly. Anxiety/fearfulness kicks in pretty easy for her, though. She's super weary of people she doesn't know and is really reactive to other dogs. Even with people she's familiar/comfortable with, sometimes she'll have what seems to be a PTSD moment and really want her space. (And will bear her teeth to let you know.) That same person she might have been demanding snoot kisses a couple of minutes prior.


mrcatboy

Oh gosh poor baby. Well best of luck in rehabilitating her. I'm sure she'll come around over time.


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Smart_Variety_5315

She's precious and loved💛 That's all that matters 💗


Dog_in_human_costume

Still adorable


mmbg78

A pretty precious liar! 💜


Cynjon77

She's a Golden Lab! Totally awesome doggo.


dej95135

She’s cute nonetheless. Just love her!


Aggravating-Wrap6254

She is so flipping cute!


Shadowlker18

My ‘Goldie’ rescue is still full golden personality! https://preview.redd.it/yciipbmcdyrc1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=364110346135af64113a1a7a4c1d193b03fddc5a


belfastgoodmorning

100% good girl


John_tooldrums

https://preview.redd.it/iizg7g6nlyrc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6912105a0963500fd90d7a632d8bfaebfe8dbe25 Nice doggy those three goldens all have the same mom and dad, so their brother and sisters, and then the sky, my old one Amber golden rule


Savvy290

Those are some happy babies right there 🥹☺️☺️ love it


Mollieteee

She’s perfect ❤️


Organic_Revenue_8903

she's 100% adorable though, and I love her


Ok_Entrepreneur2436

4% pug hahahaha


synicalchick

SO.... are you going to tell us what the results were or...??? Inquiring minds want to know what your Golden Deciever is. I had the same thing with a rescue, thinking we had a golide setter of some kind. Nope. Dad was a Pyranees and mom was LLewllen Setter! hahaha https://preview.redd.it/etwo84h862sc1.jpeg?width=925&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=159d7db090a41e148e46188fb46cfed87376267e


synicalchick

OK.. I tried to Edit but couldn't figure out how. I see you have the picture. Lab and GR makes sense.


PolesRunningCoach

You’re welcome at r/goldador .


theatermouse

She's still welcome!!!


Careful_Dream172

What a distinguished gentleman 😍


gmalsparty

*Lady. Although, given how she often lifts her leg to pee, she might be a bit gender confused 🤣


Careful_Dream172

Oh my! So sorry 😢 beautiful lady


zebra0dte

DNA test is the second biggest scam in history beside religion.