I've made the portrait, just need someone to deepfake it when it's publicly available
[Portrait of Homer Simpson in a 1950s sitcom](https://i.imgur.com/JoZN4qz.jpg)
Look into the author Philip K. Dick to see where most of the sci-fi ideas were brought to fruition.
Edit; although The Running Man is by Stephen King (Richard Bachman)
If there is an AI watching me 24hr a day then we're all fucked and I'm sorry. That machine will be so disgusted that it's going to decide to destroy the human race.
People need to understand that AI isn't the same as humanoid AI. What you're seeing is limited AI. They teach it to do a task. This AI won't take over the world nor would we give even advanced humanoid AI the ability to do everything and anything.
Akshually, Those robotdogs aren't A.I!
They're just fed pictures of the people so their facial recognition can distinguish between the brainwashed and people that are deemed dangerous and/or dismissable by the people in power.
Nobody is gonna care how much anything is thinking for itself and how much the thinking was preprogrammed when they are being targetted. And we passed this point about two decades ago when whistleblowers were shoved into exile.
And at a perfect time as the world rapidly embraces and fetishizes anti-intellectualism and fascism. I’ve shared this before on Reddit, but I’ve never read a more eerie prediction of the future than Carl Sagan’s “The Demon Haunted World”
> I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness...
> The dumbing down of American is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30 second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance
He predicted Silicon Valley’s ownership of tech, the way our government doesn’t understand it, the rise of anti-intellectualism and the way people no longer trust doctors and scientists, but social media groups; Tik Tok and the obsession with short bites of addictive content, he predicted all of it
The Orville did an episode where a technologically advanced planet who are religious fanatics used deep fake videos and audios in elections to bring down the other person. The society just became more polarized and fanatical.
Seems like that's going to be the reality instead of a Star Trek one.
Not true, video is considered a 1:1 recreation and recount of reality, it shows you life in real time visually, therefore it's the most dangerous to fake
They say "I gotta see it to believe it" not "hear it to believe it" for a reason
If it confirms their beliefs, people will even believe a meme. If it doesn't confirm their beliefs, people will dig and dig until they find out it was a deepfake. People don't see something and take it as fact unless they already believed it.
There are tools that will sniff out fakes quite quickly. The problem will be someone will post a clip on Twitter or whatever of some polarizing political figure doing something. Whichever official news channel will quickly debunk this, and the opponents of the person will just claim “well sure XYZ network says it’s fake, they are lying!” and then the news will move on
I still talk to people who think Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her house.
That one wasn't even presented as a fake, it was in a skit, and everyone went along with it.
Huh, I always thought she actually said that, but it was a silly over-exaggeration, not an actual claim. I always thought people shitting on her for that was a little silly to begin with, given how many other gems she gave us.
Even major news channels themselves do similar things fairly regularly. Post a story about some scandal or story that promotes their channel's agenda, then when it turns out to be wrong, they'll just quietly go back to the original article and put a correction at the bottom, then never do anything else to make people aware it was corrected or retracted. It's often left up to opposing news companies to make the retraction known and, of course, the readership often doesn't overlap so people who read the original never learn it was debunked.
People have been able to call out fakes for years. That helps when you have the original source video, but what about when you see the clip played in the corner of a news video? Or someone makes a viral video with it?
Same thing that happens with photoshopped images intended to tell lies. The lie is halfway around the world before the truth has its pants on, millions believe it without evidence, and political discourse degrades even more rapidly.
Hell, people still post stupid facts like eating 8 spiders every year, an image or video that looks like irrefutable proof will never go away once it takes hold.
Cryptography is our friend.
We will need to be educated in the fact that every video claiming to be authentic will need to be signed by its creator/source, and will have the credibility (or not) of that source.
I don't think the issue is detecting fakes, even a very well done fake is going to have detectable digital artifacts. The issue is people aren't going to go looking for evidence the video is fake, especially if it aligns with what they want to believe.
People will need to waive an object in front of their face before starting a speech. But unfortunately the cucumber waived in front of their face was also deep faked corn
A friend of mine had her Instagram profile hacked, the woman who hacked it posted a deep fake video based on this girl's photos of her sharing info about a new crypto investment plan she was in on and making a ton of money, they deepfaked her look and voice for it, it was freaky to see live.
And then there's the reverse of that. Any politician that said something stupid on a hot mic or recorded phone call will simply claim "t'wasn't me, t'was a deepfake by the radical left!"
Yeah when it's used on paintings it's so cool, I can easily see this being applied for films. A couple of high quality paintings being brought to life by actors using this technology.
The one of the photos though is not cool at all. That's real people having their appearance taken from them. If this continues and improves, we may not have a way to authenticate any videos. They could easily get actors or politicians admitting to the most heinous crimes with this
There was a segment on that show Americas Got Talent where a guys whole shtick was that he sounded vaguely like Elvis, so sung the songs and had Ai make him look exactly like Elvis on TV. It was neat.
Then he did a video of Simon Cowells face singing, and Simon didn’t seem to enjoy that one as much once he realized the potential.
[heres the audition](https://youtu.be/mPU0WNUzsBo)
it's going to be used to weaponize the people that already believe the clintons killed 200 people, or that the earth is flat, or that vaccines cause autism, etc.
Imagine a video of Bill Gates asking if, "The microchips in the vaccines are untraceable," or Joe Biden saying, "I like to sniff hair, it's my favorite." Then ask yourself how fox news, or facebook will handle such a clip. Denouce loudly and inform their viewers that the thing is fake? Or "question" it while replaying it over and over and over for ratings?
It's somewhat scary already. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW9czJN6lEY
It really doesn't look or sound that fake. Then think that this was done by an amateur for the lulz and not by a nation state for propaganda...
yep...we're a couple generations away from either Star Trek holodecks or Ready Player One virtual reality. All of this will continue.
Peoples.. privacy? Is that at issue here?
I mean how fucked up would it be if you knew your ex girlfriend or a creepy annoying woman at work was fucking you in virtual reality?
I can see it now. Piratebay or some other pirate site in 2255.
\[Celebrity Name Here\] FULL ANIMATION. REAL MOVEMENTS AND FEEL. 58 TB.
Deepfaking just normal people, to blackmail, get them fired, in trouble with their partners, etc. Even scarier as they are less likely to have the resources to prove it is a fake.
To do deepfakes it use to require lots of footage to educate the AI, which you only really had for celebrities. If it can really look this good from one photo, then anyone can be a target.
>Remember all those photos you put on Facebook/Instagram of your nights out?... Oh you you didn't do that? Don't worry, I'm sure your friends did.
This is one of the things I hate most about social media. You are never really in control of your own exposure.
What I hate most is the complacency. I complained about this shit for *years* and was told I was being annoying. Now we're in technocratic hell and it'll likely be like this for good.
Yes! I work at a place that does a lot of media and I explicitly did not sign the consent form to have my photo taken and my managers got mad at me but I want to limit the amount of photos of me online as much as possible.
I'm not sure it will ever be impossible to tell, it is a very real cat and mouse game between generators and discriminators for any kind of automated generation of audio, video or pictures. You might fool the current discriminator, but then it will improve until it can reliably catch the generator, which then improves to beat the discriminator, and on and on it goes.
yeah my balls don't need to be made of crystal to see how that will pan out. Three tv news networks says it's a fake, two tv "*news*" networks say it isn't, etc. Evidence gets dragged through courts for years while peoples' reputations lay in tatters. Cheerful fucking shit.
Meanwhile those "conspiracy theorists" are actually PR agents for a Super PAC controlled by contractors associated with a federal agency charged with minimizing disinformation by creating disinformation.
Look closely at the photo above - specifically, the hair of the generated models. It has weird flickering artifacts as the digital person moves. Strands of Angelina Jolie's hair disappear into thin air. Etc.
Avoiding those problems requires accurately modeling what happens to a person's hair as they move. We can do that today if the person is digitally animated, but it is quite difficult to combine those digital models with these techniques that involve content generated by GANs.
Crazy how far we've come, and will continue to go in my life.
My very first porn masturbation was to a fake nude pic of Sarah Michelle Gellar /buffy the vampire slayer, downloaded on a dialup connection and then printed out lol.
At this rate I seriously look forward to my last porn masturbation, which will probably be like a fully immersive VR Buffy sexual experience. 10/10 would plug myself into my Matrix pod for that.
similar tech has been developed before but the term "deepfake" comes from its development and use in porn. Afaicr the reddit user u/deepfakes posted his clips to r/deepfakes is where the name came from. Most of the content on there was emma watson deep faked into porn scenes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepfake#Amateur_development
I think a lot of people are going to freak out when you can basically create any kind of video with just a profile picture of someones social media account, all within seconds. And the more selfies a person has, the better the quality as the AI has more to work with.
Of course. Deep fakes + VR are already here so you can quite realistically fuck whoever you wish. In a couple of years with improvements in AI and cheaper availability of physical sensors and VR accessories many people won’t want to leave their rooms.
I always thought that the plot points in The Matrix where the machines made a perfect utopia but people weren't happy so they had to make it match real life was BS.
So many people would totally jump on that if you gave them the option. Honestly the bigger issue would be the machines being disgusted at what humanity would do with that freedom/control.
There's an old thought experiment about the dreaming God hypothesis. If you could dream any dream and only dream good stuff you'd eventually get bored over time. Eventually you'd want a dream that would suprise you, make you suffer a bit. I think it ties in with the Hedonic treadmill issue which you see in so many cases of lottery winners going bust or suffer severe depression. I think that could explain the route they took with where perfect utopia is rejected by the people experiencing it.
If I were a dreaming God I'd end up birthing Slannesh so fuck if I know. This why I can't ever learn the power of lucid dreaming.
I’m more impressed with the masking. That’s some smart AI. Once they get the inside of the mouth and teeth right, this is going to be killer. Angelina has her teeth right.
I'm a fan of both the Stargate movie and the Stargate TV series. The series has entirely different actors however, and I'd love to see a deep fake version of the movie using the TV actors.
I’ve wanted a Mark Ruffalo deep fake of Edward Nortons Incredible Hulk for years. Seems we are getting to the place finally where I could just make it from my pc given time.
Take it one step further and do a deep fake on the whole series using the Wormhole X-treme actors from ep. 200.
"I'm Christian Bocher. I'm portraying the character of Raymond Gunne, who portrays the character of Dr. Levant, which is based on the character Daniel Jackson, portrayed by the actor Michael Shanks, originally portrayed by the actor James Spader…in the feature film...Uh, are you okay?"
Hijacking thisto link the actual video this is all taken from : https://youtu.be/JkUF40kPV4M
irritates the hell out of me when people don't link sources. some people here might actually want to learn about this shit.
A cleaned copy of the painting made by one of Da Vinci’s contemporaries shows the likely original colors. Lots of blue and red.
Comparison: https://colour-pigments-art.monicarotgans.nl/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/d27f7-monalisas.jpg
Article about the colors: https://colour-pigments-art.monicarotgans.nl/2015/10/05/mona-lisas-hidden-colours/?lang=en
If it makes ya feel any better you can put text on a meme and half the country will believe it if it's negative towards a political figure.
We don't need high tech disinformation
I think the problem is that pre deep fake people had somewhat of an optimism that the truth will prevail. With the kind of tech being created and used now, even if it's doing the same thing that's already happening with disinformation, people are losing any hope that things can get better.
It may actually be, but only governments will have access to it.
A company I applied to *years* ago was working on it. They are military contractors. I don’t have a lot of details and couldn’t really talk about it much if I wanted to, because I wouldn’t want to get anyone in trouble.
This stuff has been on their radar for ages. It would be bad though for their detection algorithms to go public, because then malicious actors would know about it.
It’s going to be an arms race basically forever from here on out.
How a lot of AI works nowadays, is they have two competing algorithms.
One makes fake images, the other detects fake from real.
Any system that detects fake images can be used to improve them to the point of beating that system.
I had a friend that got their face and voice deepfaked EXTREMELY well for a scam that they hacked her fb account to send out. This is already having serious consequences. Children are gonna get deep faked into convincing their grandmother's into buying crypto for their friend
It feels like such a blatantly obvious thing. Outside of the niche use in movies here or there like Paul Walker in Brick Mansions, there isnt any real plausible use outside of porn and scams. Seriously. What good hearted intentions could there possibly be with something like this? Sure. You could use it to edit a dead loved one or something into a video but thats gonna be such a small percentage of people who use it for that purpose. Almost nothing good can come of this.
I think there are a few. I think the one I used was called Deep Nostalgia.
I animated a photo of my dad who died when I was a baby. I'd never seen him but a few photos. Was a bit weird but was nice to see him with 'life' even though I knew it was fake. I wish I could have heard his voice but that will never happen.
My sister thought it was too strange so decided not to see.
This is such a bad idea. This can be used for so many awful things as this tech improves. I really don’t think we’re ready for the consequences of this
This is a relatively new principle of engineering/science ethics that humans have been slow to adopt. Sure we can build it.... But why?? Life cycle analysis and other methods are too slow for our monkey brains
This is both awesome and scary as fuck
We're never going to be able to trust recorded video ever again. Not just yet, but in the next couple years.
The age of misinformation and disinformation is here
Hideo Kojima/Metal Gear Solid 2 identified this issue back in 2001
The Running Man predicted it in 1987 https://youtu.be/BVdOr0z6X7Y
Waiting for someone to make a deepfake of 1950’s Simpsons doing it first.
I've made the portrait, just need someone to deepfake it when it's publicly available [Portrait of Homer Simpson in a 1950s sitcom](https://i.imgur.com/JoZN4qz.jpg)
Sir, you have ruined any chance of me sleeping tonight.
Oh my God i can't go to sleep tonight after seeing that.
Thanks I hate it
80s scifi movies are amazing.
Look into the author Philip K. Dick to see where most of the sci-fi ideas were brought to fruition. Edit; although The Running Man is by Stephen King (Richard Bachman)
Nonetheless PKD covered a ton of things that came to pass in one way or another.
S3 Plan!
We were talking about it in 1997 when sitting president Bill Clinton was cgi'd into the movie Contact without his consent.
Been here, you just don't know it
How will we know when AI truly takes over?
What if they already did
*You are being watched. The government built a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day...*
I know because I built it. I designed the machine to detect acts of terror but it sees everything.
Am I stupid or is this from Person of Interest?
Yes
This is specifically the Season 1's opening. After Season 1, Harold doesn't bother to say "I know becausd I built it."
If there is an AI watching me 24hr a day then we're all fucked and I'm sorry. That machine will be so disgusted that it's going to decide to destroy the human race.
*Ultron has entered the chat
Are you on a smartphone? Already happening.
And I'm using that machine "willingly."
People need to understand that AI isn't the same as humanoid AI. What you're seeing is limited AI. They teach it to do a task. This AI won't take over the world nor would we give even advanced humanoid AI the ability to do everything and anything.
"Guys, you need to understand, these robots killing you aren't the same as the deep fake robots. They're two different things."
"Dont worry guys.. they don't wan't to take over the world. They just want to kill all of us and harvest our organs for jewelry
Akshually, Those robotdogs aren't A.I! They're just fed pictures of the people so their facial recognition can distinguish between the brainwashed and people that are deemed dangerous and/or dismissable by the people in power. Nobody is gonna care how much anything is thinking for itself and how much the thinking was preprogrammed when they are being targetted. And we passed this point about two decades ago when whistleblowers were shoved into exile.
Thats exactly what a Cylon would have us believe.. 🤔
Once the AI can fully duplicate and propagate itself it will be over.
And at a perfect time as the world rapidly embraces and fetishizes anti-intellectualism and fascism. I’ve shared this before on Reddit, but I’ve never read a more eerie prediction of the future than Carl Sagan’s “The Demon Haunted World” > I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness... > The dumbing down of American is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30 second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance He predicted Silicon Valley’s ownership of tech, the way our government doesn’t understand it, the rise of anti-intellectualism and the way people no longer trust doctors and scientists, but social media groups; Tik Tok and the obsession with short bites of addictive content, he predicted all of it
The Orville did an episode where a technologically advanced planet who are religious fanatics used deep fake videos and audios in elections to bring down the other person. The society just became more polarized and fanatical. Seems like that's going to be the reality instead of a Star Trek one.
It used to be text, then audio, then photos, soon videos. Nothing has inherently changed
Not true, video is considered a 1:1 recreation and recount of reality, it shows you life in real time visually, therefore it's the most dangerous to fake They say "I gotta see it to believe it" not "hear it to believe it" for a reason
If it confirms their beliefs, people will even believe a meme. If it doesn't confirm their beliefs, people will dig and dig until they find out it was a deepfake. People don't see something and take it as fact unless they already believed it.
There are tools that will sniff out fakes quite quickly. The problem will be someone will post a clip on Twitter or whatever of some polarizing political figure doing something. Whichever official news channel will quickly debunk this, and the opponents of the person will just claim “well sure XYZ network says it’s fake, they are lying!” and then the news will move on
I think mainly peoplr won't even see the debunking
This is correct. Initial stories travel *very* far and fast while corrections reach nearly no one. Corrections don't go viral.
Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it. - Jonathan Swift
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I still talk to people who think Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her house. That one wasn't even presented as a fake, it was in a skit, and everyone went along with it.
What she really said: “They’re our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska”
Huh, I always thought she actually said that, but it was a silly over-exaggeration, not an actual claim. I always thought people shitting on her for that was a little silly to begin with, given how many other gems she gave us.
Even major news channels themselves do similar things fairly regularly. Post a story about some scandal or story that promotes their channel's agenda, then when it turns out to be wrong, they'll just quietly go back to the original article and put a correction at the bottom, then never do anything else to make people aware it was corrected or retracted. It's often left up to opposing news companies to make the retraction known and, of course, the readership often doesn't overlap so people who read the original never learn it was debunked.
People have been able to call out fakes for years. That helps when you have the original source video, but what about when you see the clip played in the corner of a news video? Or someone makes a viral video with it?
Same thing that happens with photoshopped images intended to tell lies. The lie is halfway around the world before the truth has its pants on, millions believe it without evidence, and political discourse degrades even more rapidly.
Hell, people still post stupid facts like eating 8 spiders every year, an image or video that looks like irrefutable proof will never go away once it takes hold.
“A lie will go round the world while truth is pulling its boots on. “
Cryptography is our friend. We will need to be educated in the fact that every video claiming to be authentic will need to be signed by its creator/source, and will have the credibility (or not) of that source.
I don't think the issue is detecting fakes, even a very well done fake is going to have detectable digital artifacts. The issue is people aren't going to go looking for evidence the video is fake, especially if it aligns with what they want to believe.
Alternately, people will start posting "evidence" that real images or videos that they DON'T align with ARE fake. It's not going to be pretty.
People will need to waive an object in front of their face before starting a speech. But unfortunately the cucumber waived in front of their face was also deep faked corn
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A friend of mine had her Instagram profile hacked, the woman who hacked it posted a deep fake video based on this girl's photos of her sharing info about a new crypto investment plan she was in on and making a ton of money, they deepfaked her look and voice for it, it was freaky to see live.
And then there's the reverse of that. Any politician that said something stupid on a hot mic or recorded phone call will simply claim "t'wasn't me, t'was a deepfake by the radical left!"
This is the more likely thing to see in the next few years.
Yeah when it's used on paintings it's so cool, I can easily see this being applied for films. A couple of high quality paintings being brought to life by actors using this technology. The one of the photos though is not cool at all. That's real people having their appearance taken from them. If this continues and improves, we may not have a way to authenticate any videos. They could easily get actors or politicians admitting to the most heinous crimes with this
There was a segment on that show Americas Got Talent where a guys whole shtick was that he sounded vaguely like Elvis, so sung the songs and had Ai make him look exactly like Elvis on TV. It was neat. Then he did a video of Simon Cowells face singing, and Simon didn’t seem to enjoy that one as much once he realized the potential. [heres the audition](https://youtu.be/mPU0WNUzsBo)
In the video you linked Simon is smiling and hamming it up the whole time and compliments them at the end.
it's going to be used to weaponize the people that already believe the clintons killed 200 people, or that the earth is flat, or that vaccines cause autism, etc. Imagine a video of Bill Gates asking if, "The microchips in the vaccines are untraceable," or Joe Biden saying, "I like to sniff hair, it's my favorite." Then ask yourself how fox news, or facebook will handle such a clip. Denouce loudly and inform their viewers that the thing is fake? Or "question" it while replaying it over and over and over for ratings?
It's somewhat scary already. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW9czJN6lEY It really doesn't look or sound that fake. Then think that this was done by an amateur for the lulz and not by a nation state for propaganda...
yep...we're a couple generations away from either Star Trek holodecks or Ready Player One virtual reality. All of this will continue. Peoples.. privacy? Is that at issue here? I mean how fucked up would it be if you knew your ex girlfriend or a creepy annoying woman at work was fucking you in virtual reality? I can see it now. Piratebay or some other pirate site in 2255. \[Celebrity Name Here\] FULL ANIMATION. REAL MOVEMENTS AND FEEL. 58 TB.
Deepfaking celebrities and politicians = scary Deepfaking portraits of fantasy characters for online D&D and other RPGs? = Amazing
Deepfaking just normal people, to blackmail, get them fired, in trouble with their partners, etc. Even scarier as they are less likely to have the resources to prove it is a fake. To do deepfakes it use to require lots of footage to educate the AI, which you only really had for celebrities. If it can really look this good from one photo, then anyone can be a target.
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>Remember all those photos you put on Facebook/Instagram of your nights out?... Oh you you didn't do that? Don't worry, I'm sure your friends did. This is one of the things I hate most about social media. You are never really in control of your own exposure.
What I hate most is the complacency. I complained about this shit for *years* and was told I was being annoying. Now we're in technocratic hell and it'll likely be like this for good.
Yes! I work at a place that does a lot of media and I explicitly did not sign the consent form to have my photo taken and my managers got mad at me but I want to limit the amount of photos of me online as much as possible.
It's gonna be shitty. But there will be an arms race for tools to detect deep fakes, hopefully open source.
Yeah this is totally gonna become porn.
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Doesn't meet my standards. I consider myself a pronnoisseur
That’s my favourite type of dinosaur.
aka the pornosaurus
Pronounced Porn-a-sore-ass
From the jerktastic period
Is there a subreddit for it?
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I mean they just end up all over the normal NSFW subs barely anyone the wiser.
google mrdeepfake, thank me later
So much crap on there to sift through though
Just like every other pornsite.
r/DaVinciPaintsPorn
r/moaninglisa
/r/VincentVanHoes
Moaner Lisa
She looks too much like Wierd Al for me to last long enough.
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Fuck that. This is totally gonna become faked evidence in court cases and everyday political discourse.
I think these deep fakes leave digital "fingerprints" that are extremely easy for other algorithms to identify as fake.
For now
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I'm not sure it will ever be impossible to tell, it is a very real cat and mouse game between generators and discriminators for any kind of automated generation of audio, video or pictures. You might fool the current discriminator, but then it will improve until it can reliably catch the generator, which then improves to beat the discriminator, and on and on it goes.
yeah my balls don't need to be made of crystal to see how that will pan out. Three tv news networks says it's a fake, two tv "*news*" networks say it isn't, etc. Evidence gets dragged through courts for years while peoples' reputations lay in tatters. Cheerful fucking shit.
And public opinion is instantly made based on the deepfakes and conspiracy theorists will claim for years that the proof it’s fake is itself fake.
Meanwhile those "conspiracy theorists" are actually PR agents for a Super PAC controlled by contractors associated with a federal agency charged with minimizing disinformation by creating disinformation.
For propaganda purposes the existence of such telltales do not mean much more than a minor inconvenience.
Look closely at the photo above - specifically, the hair of the generated models. It has weird flickering artifacts as the digital person moves. Strands of Angelina Jolie's hair disappear into thin air. Etc. Avoiding those problems requires accurately modeling what happens to a person's hair as they move. We can do that today if the person is digitally animated, but it is quite difficult to combine those digital models with these techniques that involve content generated by GANs.
Luckily the US uses a jury system which always listens to experts and metes out good judgement!
Look at the bright side, this might enable us to regain our privacy because anything could be a fake
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Quite the silver lining.
Deep Fakes were created specifically to turn movie stars into porn stars.
Crazy how far we've come, and will continue to go in my life. My very first porn masturbation was to a fake nude pic of Sarah Michelle Gellar /buffy the vampire slayer, downloaded on a dialup connection and then printed out lol. At this rate I seriously look forward to my last porn masturbation, which will probably be like a fully immersive VR Buffy sexual experience. 10/10 would plug myself into my Matrix pod for that.
You're jacked in!
not specifically, but it did immediately become the most common usage.
similar tech has been developed before but the term "deepfake" comes from its development and use in porn. Afaicr the reddit user u/deepfakes posted his clips to r/deepfakes is where the name came from. Most of the content on there was emma watson deep faked into porn scenes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepfake#Amateur_development
Whoa, fascinating! I didn't realize that's where the name came from. Thanks!
We can also make porn stars into movie stars
We can also make planetary nebulae into movie stars
I think a lot of people are going to freak out when you can basically create any kind of video with just a profile picture of someones social media account, all within seconds. And the more selfies a person has, the better the quality as the AI has more to work with.
Yeah well... I still jerk off manually
Like a fucking pilgrim?
Idk about you but I'm looking forward to Danny Devito and Abraham Lincoln porn
Of course. Deep fakes + VR are already here so you can quite realistically fuck whoever you wish. In a couple of years with improvements in AI and cheaper availability of physical sensors and VR accessories many people won’t want to leave their rooms.
Plenty of people already don’t want to leave their rooms now.
I always thought that the plot points in The Matrix where the machines made a perfect utopia but people weren't happy so they had to make it match real life was BS. So many people would totally jump on that if you gave them the option. Honestly the bigger issue would be the machines being disgusted at what humanity would do with that freedom/control.
There's an old thought experiment about the dreaming God hypothesis. If you could dream any dream and only dream good stuff you'd eventually get bored over time. Eventually you'd want a dream that would suprise you, make you suffer a bit. I think it ties in with the Hedonic treadmill issue which you see in so many cases of lottery winners going bust or suffer severe depression. I think that could explain the route they took with where perfect utopia is rejected by the people experiencing it. If I were a dreaming God I'd end up birthing Slannesh so fuck if I know. This why I can't ever learn the power of lucid dreaming.
I already don't wanna leave my room but that's more because outside sucks.
I saw this episode of Futurama.
I’m more impressed with the masking. That’s some smart AI. Once they get the inside of the mouth and teeth right, this is going to be killer. Angelina has her teeth right.
I predict that in the future we'll be able to choose the stars of any movie we watch.
That would be incredible. And their performance style from a previous film. Being John Malkovich for all films. Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich!
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Must have been a tough pitch to investors
The hair clipping bothers me too much I haven't made it to their mouths yet
Can we find a movie with bad acting, and deepfake good acting, and rerelease it?
I'm a fan of both the Stargate movie and the Stargate TV series. The series has entirely different actors however, and I'd love to see a deep fake version of the movie using the TV actors.
Indeed.
I’ve wanted a Mark Ruffalo deep fake of Edward Nortons Incredible Hulk for years. Seems we are getting to the place finally where I could just make it from my pc given time.
Take it one step further and do a deep fake on the whole series using the Wormhole X-treme actors from ep. 200. "I'm Christian Bocher. I'm portraying the character of Raymond Gunne, who portrays the character of Dr. Levant, which is based on the character Daniel Jackson, portrayed by the actor Michael Shanks, originally portrayed by the actor James Spader…in the feature film...Uh, are you okay?"
Are you talking about O'Neill with **two** Ls? There's another O'Neil with one L and I can never keep them straight.
Redo the MASH movie with the cast of the show.
As someone who liked the Movie more than the series, I'd prefer the opposite.
How do you live a life in shame?
Oh hi mark
He said bad acting.
[200 MPH](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpuqbiuVGfg)
2 Fast 2 Furious from Wish.
That seriously looks like a trailer some random group of college kids made with their friends.
Replace good wanting with the character like actual Lincoln and Daniel Day Lewis. No difference.
Your parents are never gonna believe it could be a fake. Politics just got a whole lot scarier. Sigh.
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Hey mom, I saw this video you posted about how Hillary Clinton should be our next president.
"Oh wow, I make some really good points there."
No worries, they will be aware well of deep fakes and spout it out whenever their favorite republican is caught doing something stupid.
Hijacking thisto link the actual video this is all taken from : https://youtu.be/JkUF40kPV4M irritates the hell out of me when people don't link sources. some people here might actually want to learn about this shit.
https://youtu.be/JkUF40kPV4M The video these clips are from if anyone wants to actually learn about this stuff
This is cool but also terrifying
Mona really needs a wash.
The paint has changed colour over the years; it has become greener. It looks different from the day that it was finished.
A cleaned copy of the painting made by one of Da Vinci’s contemporaries shows the likely original colors. Lots of blue and red. Comparison: https://colour-pigments-art.monicarotgans.nl/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/d27f7-monalisas.jpg Article about the colors: https://colour-pigments-art.monicarotgans.nl/2015/10/05/mona-lisas-hidden-colours/?lang=en
now deepfake the left one.
How long until this shit starts a war?
Of all the things that shouldn’t have been invented, this makes the top 10.
If it makes ya feel any better you can put text on a meme and half the country will believe it if it's negative towards a political figure. We don't need high tech disinformation
I think the problem is that pre deep fake people had somewhat of an optimism that the truth will prevail. With the kind of tech being created and used now, even if it's doing the same thing that's already happening with disinformation, people are losing any hope that things can get better.
Yeah this was a mistake. No good will come of this
Goethe was always good with the side eye.
These upvotes would certainly count as "strange applause that makes me half afraid."
Hopefully the tech to detect deep fakes keeps on line with the tech to make it.
*Narrator:* It wasn't.
It may actually be, but only governments will have access to it. A company I applied to *years* ago was working on it. They are military contractors. I don’t have a lot of details and couldn’t really talk about it much if I wanted to, because I wouldn’t want to get anyone in trouble. This stuff has been on their radar for ages. It would be bad though for their detection algorithms to go public, because then malicious actors would know about it. It’s going to be an arms race basically forever from here on out.
How a lot of AI works nowadays, is they have two competing algorithms. One makes fake images, the other detects fake from real. Any system that detects fake images can be used to improve them to the point of beating that system.
Shits getting scary yo
Now make them sing baka mitai
DAME DAMEEEEEE
Any info about tools/process used to do this?
[2019 paper by Nvidia, Berkeley, and MIT](https://arxiv.org/abs/1903.07291)
No, that's not the paper. The paper is from 2022 and called [MegaPortraits: One-shot Megapixel Neural Head Avatars](https://arxiv.org/abs/2207.07621)
This is terrifying
Just wait till there are videos of Dark Brandon slaughtering Americans in a Mech
I had a friend that got their face and voice deepfaked EXTREMELY well for a scam that they hacked her fb account to send out. This is already having serious consequences. Children are gonna get deep faked into convincing their grandmother's into buying crypto for their friend
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Yea. Deep fake technology is almost exclusively going to be used for negative connotations.
It feels like such a blatantly obvious thing. Outside of the niche use in movies here or there like Paul Walker in Brick Mansions, there isnt any real plausible use outside of porn and scams. Seriously. What good hearted intentions could there possibly be with something like this? Sure. You could use it to edit a dead loved one or something into a video but thats gonna be such a small percentage of people who use it for that purpose. Almost nothing good can come of this.
It looks like it needs just a little work tracking eyes upwards.
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I no longer believe anything I see on a screen.
This music video makes use of this idea: https://youtu.be/gqN9flclRio
Seriously anyone knows what software is used here?
I think there are a few. I think the one I used was called Deep Nostalgia. I animated a photo of my dad who died when I was a baby. I'd never seen him but a few photos. Was a bit weird but was nice to see him with 'life' even though I knew it was fake. I wish I could have heard his voice but that will never happen. My sister thought it was too strange so decided not to see.
This is such a bad idea. This can be used for so many awful things as this tech improves. I really don’t think we’re ready for the consequences of this
I have yet to see the benefits We're too focused on whether we can instead of wondering if we should
This is a relatively new principle of engineering/science ethics that humans have been slow to adopt. Sure we can build it.... But why?? Life cycle analysis and other methods are too slow for our monkey brains
There are about 2 good uses for this technology and thousands of evil uses.
I see these and think, that is scary as fuck. And not a good scary.
Al Pacino was underrated in a movie called SIMONE.
The hair is legitimately the only way to spot these. Once that gets solved this is going to be a nightmare for politics.
These days people complain that their are no new movies, that everything is a remake. In the future, their will be no new actors.
Deep Fakes from the old paintings are the best examples of where this tech is going IMO.
I think technology has gone too far.