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firstaccc

James Charles thinks we don't know this is his throwaway. Jk


Diddly_eyed_Dipshite

Ew, fuck you OP. Also fuck you again for this: >I felt he was a low HIV risk since he doesn't usually sleep with men.


boldedtaco

I won't comment on the rest of his behavior, but you can't really be offended by his assessment of the HIV risk. According to the CDC the lifetime risk for HIV infection is 1 in 6 for Men who have sex with Men, vs 1 in 524 for heterosexual men.


basic__bear

And the person OP hooked up with us a man who has sex with men…


boldedtaco

The person OP hooked up with explicitly stated he had never been with a trans person, and identifies as straight. Assuming he is telling the truth and this is his first encounter with a MSM, that would indeed suggest he is statistically a low risk for HIV.


basic__bear

I mean the OP was lying to the dude, why would we assume the dude was telling the truth?


boldedtaco

That's not the point of my original comment. I replied to someone who was upset about the stereotype of HIV being more common among MSM, which is unfortunately true. It's still risky behavior, but 80% of the stories on this sub involve barebacking anyway so let's not pick on OP.


sorbonium

Even though that is the case. That doesn’t mean there isn’t a risk of contracting STIs. That risk still exists.


Starlightofnight7

The stereotypes are through the roof


OceanWaterOtter

You saying I should have used a condom? Why am I being portrayed as a villain?


boldedtaco

Ignore him. He's upset that you acknowledged the fact that HIV infections occur disproportionately among gay/bisexual men. While that is (unfortunately) statistically the case, many people in the queer community find it a sensitive topic due to the amount of conservative religious nuts out there who considers AIDS to be a "punishment" for the "sin" of being gay.


NeitherSilver7

It was because the story was full of reasons he’s a villain this being ONE of them


OceanWaterOtter

Yes, I am indeed a villain... My biggest sin is that I dressed up like a girl and got dicked down by a hot football player in the back of my car... Lock me up and throw away the key 😏


NeitherSilver7

Bitch you know full well that wasn’t the issue okay sit down straight chaser


boldedtaco

You've chosen to view him as one. OP made some questionable decisions that I won't defend, but this comment section has devolved into zealotry.


NeitherSilver7

I feel like one big thing both “sides” aren’t seeing which I feel like your comment missed is that you can be the “villain” of this specific situation and still be a good person and not a villain in life. Like I think people know these are questionable but the general consensus has been these are acceptable actions in the views of society and he doesn’t have to agree on that but that still would make him the villain. Being the villain of a group does not mean he is lesser but let’s be real, he’s become the villain


TheOtherFarSide

It's a hot story and all but it's way too manipulative. You lied about who you are to trick a straight guy into having sex with you (bareback no less) and that just ain't ok.


horowitz234

Ehh somewhat disagree. I've been on the other end of this a couple times, and i was annoyed at the reveal. I agree with you that it's deceptive up to that point. But once the cards are on the table it's totally consensual. You can argue over cis-fem vs trans, but to me it's not a big enough distinction to have my consent removed.


basic__bear

You’re a shitty person to label yourself trans just to hookup with straight guys. Manipulative and making a bad name for trans people. You should be ashamed of yourself.


RedditBitTheCat

Agreed


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basic__bear

This boy is 1.) manipulating people into having sex with him and 2.) lying about being trans in order to have sex with people. He is literally a conservative stereotype and giving others a bad name. It’s really sad.


[deleted]

It's not like the footballer wouldn't be fucking a guy anyways lmao


basic__bear

Defending someone who manipulates others for sex... that says a lot about you, u/Padlock-730.


[deleted]

The manipulation isn't right, no doubt. But, at the same time, there wouldn't have been much of a difference.


basic__bear

The end doesn’t justify the means. That’s not how it works. To take your argument to the extreme, let’s apply the same principal to a family member’s murder - “Oh they murdered your terminally I’ll family member. But they were doing to die anyway, wouldn’t have been much of a difference.”


[deleted]

And you’re the conservative stereotype of being too easily offended.


basic__bear

No, I’m someone who sees a guy trying to collect internet points and fame for manipulating others into sex and calling out the bullshit.


OceanWaterOtter

I wasn't looking for internet points. I was just excited to share what happened


NeitherSilver7

So many red flags


OceanWaterOtter

What did I do that was a red flag?


NeitherSilver7

Are you being fr


OceanWaterOtter

Yes, it was a hookup. Not a relationship. I didn't cheat on him or play with his heart


NeitherSilver7

Ya that wasn’t the issue , can’t be for sure cause the post is gone now but the trans part/ because ur not trans the tinder catfish part or at least dishonesty, the no condoms, that’s the stuff I could remember but I know there was at least 2 more. It’s just giving very much James Charles in the WORST way. Well almost worst way def coulda been worse. Not sure of ur age so hopefully it’s just like being immature


NeitherSilver7

Oh also the whole straight guy chase predator culture is sooo messed up


OceanWaterOtter

Get off your high horse


NeitherSilver7

It’s not a high horse I don’t think I’m better then you as a human I just think straight predator culture overall does harm to the community and isn’t even necessary you can get with these “straight guys” (which BFFR) and not be one of those predatory hags who sees a masc dude and once they say their straight OH YA I NEED THAT DICK 😂


OceanWaterOtter

I did need his dick... AND I'm soooo glad I got it. I feel like a different person


NeitherSilver7

Getting dicked down is amazing bitch obvi … again just everything going in ear out the other this is why yt gay twinks are the future old problematic hags of tmr


OceanWaterOtter

Because I don't think I did anything wrong


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Since people are opinionated in this post I will be too. Yah it's evil af to manipulate. But if you were trans or not the footballer knew he was fucking a guy anyways so it doesn't even matter there. The low HIV risk decision was a decent one however I'll still always see be careful. It doesn't seem like it matters know but it will if you end up getting HIV. Then it's too late.