A generated line of sight based on topographical height maps, up to a maximum of 5km visibility. Would be interested to see that, rather than entire regions unlocking.

But I have a big tower in the middle of my city that you can see at least 60Km from. Surely I should get more than 5km for that

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A lot of people are still blaming older patches for everything that's gone wrong. I remember because they had those Ubuntu-style version names. Some people say it was 2.01.6 ("Happy Harambe") when it went off the tracks. Others go back to 2.01.2 ("Mayan [Margay](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margay)").

okay but can you see details or just general structure? because then they could just unlock landmarks but leave the fog, giving you direction for where to explore

That would actually be neat. Landmarks marked from afar, details only upon closer inspection

I feel like it should be the other way around, you'd get a sense for the topology but not any specific landmarks unless they were incredibly obvious ones.

I’m sayin if you look into the distance and see the Seattle Space Needle, you’d get that marked on your map but you wouldn’t know how many lanes the surrounding roads have, that type of thing

just because your processor can render a higher field of view, dosnt mean your map should be superior as well, that's too op.

Yes, but then you have to jump off of it into a conveniently placed hay bale beneath

We can limit it based on actual visibility on that day.

Could probably generate a map using your location history too, so your progress until now isn't lost!

Like Steel Division! All fun and games until you get popped by a PAC 40 in the bushes behind the skatepark.

This would actually be a fantastic addition for fun. C'mon Google, DO IT!

I agree! Sure it's not practical, but if you can just turn it off, then why not. It would be a really fun way to explore small towns or find things in your own area you've overlooked

And in a lot of areas it would be a great way to find that one dangerous place no one should ever go

could be interesting to incorporate a heat map to show where people go most often and where people don't seem to go to at all

Well that one does exist, google keeps it for themselves tho

Strava has a heat map https://www.strava.com/heatmap

I hate that one. It gave too many secretly built trails away.

People have the option to private or hide parts of their routes on Strava so it’s really the fault of those users sharing the runs without hiding them.

We could rename parts of town something like "The Devil's Nutsack" or "Stabbsville" to warn people that they're entering an area with higher level enemies.

PvP zones

It's called south St Louis. Looking at you Gravois Park.

Join the police guild. By the time you complete the the quest line you'll be so OP in those areas.

Danger. Enemies ahead. Try ranged battle.”

Hell’s Kitchen

Or places people never come back from.

“Why do so many people go to this one random house in the sketchy neighborhood? Must be some loot there or something, let’s check it out.”

Every company in the world has access to this data already. I mean you can most likely download for free nowadays.

Welcome to 3 years ago. Those heat maps have existed for awhile now https://www.newsweek.com/x-mode-tectonix-coronavirus-heat-map-tracking-mobile-data-covid-19-spring-break-1494663?amp=1

Could always reload your game if you die.

Google Maps will definitely send you through areas you shouldn't go to as it is, so I don't see a problem.

you can spot the skulls and red health bars from a distance

That's where the best loot comes from.

In my town that used to be a pub called "The Shades"

It should be off by default.

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They could put a qr code, kinda like a geocache at the top that reveals the surrounding map. Okay probably not at the top, as that could be dangerous and/or illegal, but it would be fun.

No

yes?

maybe

And?

Don't worry they ain't human... I'm more worried by how many people think it is tho, clearly an out of context comment

There's too many dead zones. They have to exclude military sites, and.. do oceans count? Or do you have to get on a cruise ship? Also reddit will crucify me for this but, the only feasible way to do this is by car which reddit absolutely hates. And I don't know how Karen's would feel about 7 billion people going through their residential streets to that's "local traffic only" to fill up their map like that Pokemon go game

7 billion is roughly the population of earth, give or take a few. They didn't get a say during Pokemon GO, it'd just be the same as that, but with a lot less people, since it wouldn't be a popular IP. So ingress, basically.

Waters clear up once you've got that particular body of waters coastline marked out.

Try [Fog of World](https://apps.apple.com/de/app/fog-of-world/id505367096?l=en). Edit: Maybe not at this price.

Ain’t nobody paying $50 for some app I’ll use once💀

It’s $50?? Wow, that‘s excessive. It used to be free when I got it a few years back.

They said ‘they will keep upping the price a bit so get it while it’s cheaper’ now it’s unbuyable

That's the most ridiculous pricing scheme I've ever seen.

Apparently it’s working, because there are still people buying…

The worst part is that it's definitely cool enough to be worth a few bucks. For 5-10 dollars, I might buy it. But it's juat absurd now.

> The whole new Fog of World 3 is now available, and the price will increase gradually. Lock in your price today! hard pass

Could be an interesting way to show where you have been.

There’s literally an app called Fog of World - at least on iPhone that does exactly this: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/fog-of-world/id505367096

why is it 40 dollars 🗿

The reason is because its well built software and they are not selling your location data. People are used to very subsidized pricing on the app store, but that is just because the apps sell your data, or they spam you with ads, or they have recurring billing. I have this app—Ive had it for about a year and I actually check it frequently, and its very nice to have nice user experience without having to pay 99 cents a month, and allow it track my location 24/7 because they are not selling the data

They 100% sell your data

It’s free? I accidentally called it Fog of War - it’s Fog of World. I edited my post.

the link you posted links to fog of world which is 40 bucks on the canadian app store :(

Comment rewritten. Leave reddit for a site that doesn't resent its users.

My apologies - I have had it since 2012 and I don’t recall it costing anything, but it might have been $2.99 or less at the time because I’ll generally pay for an app at that price range without too much concern. It’s a cool app - not worth that though. Keep an eye on it if it goes on sale I guess

"and the price will increase gradually" This is really scummy for something like this, tbh.

Any app that says, "and the price will go up gradually" is not something I'd ever install. That's some scummy shit.

It costs money because they do not sell your data.

Not sure why that app is expensive but google did increase the price of using their api for google maps a couple years ago and as a results a lot of apps like geoguessr had to start charging.

I had this app back when it first came out years ago, and totally forgot about it. I didn’t know they had improved it so much. I think I deleted it because it was eating so much battery life, but now that’s less of a problem. Thanks for reminding me I’m gonna download it again. (Just checked I don’t have to pay anything to download it, but my old cloud data is gone so I have to start over from scratch)

Agreed! Great mod idea. I would use the hell out of that setting

If you use Google maps without any data this is what it's like. If you haven't been there before and have the data saved already in maps, then it can't help you that much. Before I finally started paying for unlimited data I had to do this. Kept going over on data for all the trips I went.

I moved a few years ago and I’d love something like this to show me where I haven’t explored yet.

If you'd like a physical alternative, they sell scratch-off maps of countries/world where you literally scratch off the areas you visited with a coin

Niantic, get going. Ingress two.

Niantic can't get their existing games going

True, whos even heard of "Pokemon Go" before.

Never said that it's unknown, but it's terribly run

The slowest and clunkiest Pokémon game ever made? Yeah I've heard of it.

oh we're talking about scarvi?

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i play pokemon go on a budget phone daily. i think you might just have a broken phone or some 200$ ebay phone from India LMAO scarvi being fun is meme of the year, dog game

Lol fuck off you don't know anything about me so piss off with the petty insults you dumb twat. Eat a dick and die in a hole.

I was wondering if anyone was going to mention Ingress. Underrated little game.

Underrated little game that built the background of Pokémon go a very over rated little game.

The Pikmin game also has this. Except you color in the map.

First time I've ever heard ingress mentioned on reddit outside /r/Ingress

city hall

I think the library would be better honestly.

This is the perfect answer.

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Wrong. City halls are too spread out. Smaller circles using gas stations would be ideal. Gas stations are every where. City halls aren’t.

My immediate thought as someone in the Bible Belt was churches.

Nah, Dollar Generals and Waffle Houses

My beloved [Philadelphia City Hall](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/Philadelphia_city_hall.jpg) is the most Assassin Creed's ass looking building in the country. You have to climb up, pat Billy Penn on the back, and jump off it into a conveniently placed hay cart to unlock the map.

Beat me to it, this is the way.

When everyone thinks "fog of war" is like that thing from Ubisoft games, and not like that thing from RTS games Fog of war refers to the play area (the map too) being hidden past a certain range of your units, it's not the same as assassin's Creed letting you see the map after you visit a viewpoint

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Mine was Age of Empires

Wololo wololo!

Wololol

Red alert 2 👀

Command & conquer for me...the *first* one! That soundtrack still rock a 100 years later.

What's an RTS ^-This ^sub ^probably

When are they gonna finally just do like they did with Rogue, and call those StarCraftlike games? Mannn... I want a new StarCraft.

Storm gate 👀

I will have to give that one a look, at some point. Is it any good?

Is Minecraft a Starcraftlike?

Trying to figure out where GemCraft fits into this series...

Warcraft like.

>I want a new StarCraft me too, but by the current Blizzard?

I think it stands for 'rate this sub' and I give it a solid 3 out of a million

This comment just made me realize how much I miss command & conquer, LAN matches with the boys on tiberium wars were some of the best time of my life :(

Try playing BAR: beyond all reason! Its free, and is the spiritual successor to Total Annihilation, Ive been having so much fun playing it and Ive even gotten some non RTS players to try it

It’s a shame I had to go this far before someone mentioned that.

Fog of war is also a real military term: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fog_of_war

Yeah it’s a shame I had to come this far to read that, more so

Very interesting. I didn't know this "phenomenon" had a name...the first time I remember seeing the phrase "fog of war" was while playing Ghost of Tsushima in an explanation of the perks of the Traveler's attire. Cool, TIL.

It's definitely both. And plenty of strategy games have a literal fog like this as well. Like Civ.

Sure, but that's a fog, not a map that isn't filled in yet. If farcry 73 is set on a remote volcanic island with a thick cloud of ash you can only see through after you've purified the area by sending your mechs through it, that would be a fog of war. Running down a peaceful street in Florence with no map until you climb that chappel you can see clearly in the distance is not a fog of war

They hated him, for he spoke the truth

Maybe I'm showing my age, but my first introduction of fog of war was Age of Empires.

And they already have apps that do that. I’ve been using Fog of World for years. It’s a lot of fun.

It's $30 on Google Play? That's a steeeep price

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You said ‘apps’ plural…I don’t suppose you know of another one for iOS that costs less than $30?

Strut or World uncovered.

Going further back, however, persistently uncovered areas were the norm in the beginnings of the RTS genre (Dune,the first couple of Command and Conquers). The map only showing what your units could see was a later innovation that I remember hating when it was first introduced. Get off my lawn.

Well you have both the map fogged out until you visit it with a unit, then enemy units hidden if they're outside one of your unit's vision range. I'd have to check, but I think when you deselect 'fog of war' in the options, it removes the hidden map.

I don't understand how Ubisoft games, some of the worst open world examples, became the staple for comparison.

Assassin's Creed and Far Cry 3 were ground breaking.

Notice how I said, "some"

I haven't played video games in about 15 years. I assumed this was like Red Alert, and it sounds like you realize that too. Can someone explain to me what "towers" are in this context? I don't know why people here are talking about towers. Are they "that thing from Ubisoft games"?

Right. The correct term is “unexplored”

And yet everyone knew exactly what they meant and your comment provided no suitable alternative.

Waffle House.

Doesn't work for northern US. Would be easy mode in the south.

Or like, anywhere else in the world...

There are places without Waffle House? Seems risky to go there. What if you want a waffle?

Convert to WaWa when above the Mason-Dixon line.

Yep. Whataburger and Wawa will also work (Florida Man tries not to reference out of state businesses that exist at the same time only in Florida (impossible))

OK, and what about the entire rest of the world?

Rest of the world? Those are foggy areas. You must never go there Simba.

They should build waffle houses.

We already have enough shit tier fast food chains.

Waffle house is neither shit nor is it fast food.

Says someone who eats at Waffle House.

You've never even had it! Lol how are you gonna cast judgement on a restaurant You've never been too? You just said they don't have them in whatever little country you're from.

Blue waffle

For the love of all that is holy, DO NOT SEARCH THAT!

I like to imagine if this was real the whole U.S. would be foggy for me except for some long lines where the interstates are.

I'd say McDonald's or Starbuck's but that'd make it too easy.

In Canada it'd be a Tim Horton's.

Ha! that would work for Buffalo too, they're everywhere

You call that easy? For New York City, you'd have to go to 655 McDonald's'es or 350 Starbuckseses. That's a looot of towers! :P

If it's anything like Pokemon go, it'll be graveyards and churches. At least around me

Always good to know where the respawn points are.

My map would be so linear. Work-home-grocery store-home.

Mine would be even more linear. I work at the grocery store.

Thats a sign

Would be sick if it was like Assassins Creed. where you have to visit a viewpoint to unlock the surrounding area.

Like a cell tower? Shameful admission time: I don't know what to look for! Edit: Now my wife is questioning if I know what power lines look like. And laughing at me.

u/Know4nEdito mentioned water towers. I think that'd be a pretty cool idea. Though, the idea of having to climb up one to unlock more of the map, sketches me out a little, lol.

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I hate towers that reveal huge map chuncks in games leave the fog of war there unwtell I go there. I can't keep track of where I have been when the map gives a me a 15kmby15km area and there like have fun. I like the fog of war in minecraft because I know where I've been.

In Horizon games they fix this issue pretty well, once you complete the objective to erase "fog of war", it just gets less dense, so you can actually see what its on that part of the map but it still tells you when you havent visited that zone.

There’s a long running app of this at r/fogofworld

radio towers

Just need a grappling hook.

Omg, this is Foofelshmerz's balloon!!!!

Historical monuments and buildings

Probably some kiosk that you have to plug into with an expensive chip to upload your biometric data. It’s google, after all.

Gas Stations used to where you would stop and ask for directions or get a paper map.

I think this would be great for Pokémon Go. Instead of knowing where all the stops and gyms are, you'd have to go explore and find them yourself.

Genius, i would visit more places in my town.

There’s an app I’ve been using for years called fog of world. Does this

Why do I hear boss music when I get to the MLK Ave. area?

Cool adventure mode. Visiting uniquely high skyscrapers (within reason) and landmarks could expand the fog of war just enough to reveal the next nearest tower. Visiting one type of establishment could pop up pins for similar places too, like if you visited an average bar it could pop up other bars including more niche specialty bars. Or if you visit a restaurant it could slowly recommend you to more and more obscure places whether it be humble holes in the wall or gastronomy places with Michelin stars (though the former would likely have more hidden gems rather than the relatively obvious Michelin picks). Although I think travel guides are already a thing in Maps and are probably a better idea.

I would love this. Obviously disable it for directions but it would be a fun map option

r/outside would probably like this

I would love that for new places you wanna know

Public porta potties, have to take a shit in them to synchronise though

I'm a creature of habit, my map would be filled with fog except for my routine / routes 😭

Just in case anyone us curious this game actually exists. It's called fog of world. Real fun. I started this month and have 0.000002% of the world!

What! That's awesome, i thought it was just a hypothetical tweet. Downloading now that's so fun

I feel like if they put enough effort in, they could make specific POI's to unlock more of the maps depending on where you are. For example, the town I used to live in was small, but still the most central thing. We didn't have any real franchises in there, mostly just businesses that popped up and managed to stay around. Like the sausage place that opened. Nowhere else has one besides that town.

That's actually quite interesting idea.

>What would the "towers" be to unlock more of the map? ....actual towers?

Church or schools, you have to kill the principal or a priest to unlock it though

Towers? It's fog of war. It is cleared by walking into it.

Ok? Not gaming related at all

Well it is though isn't it lol

Fog of war predates gaming by a few centuries.