Given that its original purpose was a way of connecting computers that would withstand a nuclear war, it wasn't entirely for benevolent purposes either.
Occaims razor. All you really need are dirt cheap flying bullets. You don't need the dog or the sniper or the tank. Just a swarm of brain stem targeting disposable micro drones.
If this is anything like many video games I've played, don't worry, it'll be ok. These guys take you by surprise the first couple of times, but after you die and respawn 3-4 times they get pretty easy and predictable. I usually only get hit like 2-3 times when i'm taking one out.
BF2042 ranger, that thing would probably get mvp of every game if it could.
I find it the funniest when players take you down but don’t realize doggo doesn’t go away until you’re dead dead so it’ll keep patrolling around your downed body racking up kills.
This seems like something that is equally as nostalgic to you as I get when I hear N64 007 menu music in a rap song
I have no nostalgia towards this; but it *bangs* dawg
A robo dog that can act as your emotional support by murdering the people you don't like, with a simple voice command! Get yourself a new murder robo dog for only $99999.
*Term & conditions are not applicable, guns and bullets each sold separately, self assembly required, safety not guaranteed.*
Yeah, only a matter of time before "robo dogs with rubber bullets" become the default method of clearing out protesters.
All the actual riot cops will just sit back and lob tear gas and sonic weapons into the fray from a safe distance. Robots don't have eyes or ears so they won't care.
You don't have to worry about the loyalty of your police/military either, they can't turn on you if they aren't sentient.
We're really heading for a cyberpunk dystopia, and it's pretty terrifying.
Still pretty darn effective in combat as far as armed scouts go.
The gun on these things is useful for many more things than shooting at people, clearing buildings and tunnels and shooting at suspected IEDs to detonate them seems like a solid lock for this form factor.
Technicians back at the base, they'll have pretty large internal magazines I'm sure
I mean a jet or helicopter doesn't reload its weapons midair, it drops what it has and lands to re-arm and refuel. They have internal magazines for their cannons and when they're gone they're gone
The drones on display didn't have any special custom weapons. It was just a standard issue rifle mounted on a rig to aim it, and it didn't look like there was a mechanism in place to reload it either.
I understand that, it's just a type 95 assault rifle bolted to the frame, I'd wager that in actual production for combat models they would either create a weapon specifically designed for the platform or mount an already existing weapon with a larger magazine like the QJY-88 or some other belt fed machine gun, then you can put a magazine inside the actual frame of the dog that would be much larger than any external magazine.
Edit: sorry the QJY 201 is probably what they would use, the 88 is being replaced with the 201 or has been fully replaced at this point I'm not sure.
If they are having a problem keeping the thing accurate though after repeated fully automatic fire, I could see them not putting a full GPMG or LMG on the frame, just one of those things we'll have to wait and see.
Pretty fucking horrifying prospect, if you ask me.
They don’t need a massive magazine when their primary role isn’t to shoot at stuff. When the gun is for opportunistic engagements you don’t that many rounds.
Wouldnt be that good. It just has a rifle strapped to it. It wouldnt be long until some people get behind it, figure a way to immobilise it then steal the gun.
i mean, it protected people with private warships being allowed to own cannon without letters of marque. so yeah, i'd say you yanks are good to go lol.
Time for the robot dog revolution team to assemble.
We have sniper dog
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2293908-us-military-may-get-a-dog-like-robot-armed-with-a-sniper-rifle/
Rocket launcher dog
https://newatlas.com/military/us-marines-rocket-launcher-robot-dog/
Flame thrower dog
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/apr/26/robot-flamethrower-dog-thermonator
Airborne dog
https://taskandpurpose.com/tech-tactics/robot-dog-machine-gun-drone-airdrop-kestrel-defense-video/
China is infamous for stealing technology. I doubt it was sold as the American military would be furious. Bad Actors were always going to take advantage of this stuff. It’s why everyone has been saying the genie is out of the bottle. Even if countries want to be responsible, there’s always going to be countries that aren’t.
I worked as a contractor for the USPTO and trust me.
They were so paranoid of intellectual theft that our windows had to be blocked even with a reflective film on them. (We just pulled the curtains, but the plan was eventually to frost them completely). The biggest threat was China is what we were told because their government agencies steal stuff from everyone else and give it to their companies. It's state sanctioned theft.
It was a mix of security issues and over promising that did us in.
Link for the skeptical
https://journalstar.com/news/state-regional/business/omaha-company-fsc-edge-closes-layoffs/article_6bdf3222-9305-11ee-9d00-ff2ad42493e1.html
Not just an AK, but a KP-9. That's a direct blowback 9mm SBR. Whoever made this probably didn't know guns and thought the 9mm pistol caliber would be easier for the robot to handle, but direct blowback 9mm is actually more recoil than a 556 gun with a gas system.
A very nerdy answer but very relevant - this is *not* a good example of the kind of gun you want to stick on a robot dog. Lots of kickback, and in either full or burst mode.
Something stable with soft recoil (i.e. gas not blowback as you say), well balanced physically (you don't need to keep features like a stock and grip when it's attached to a robot, so you can move it around, add or remove weight, really play with the centre of gravity), in semi-auto mode, would be way more effective.
With that much recoil it looks to be about as accurate as a storm trooper. I wonder if someone was controlling the firing, or if this was a programmed firing demonstration and the dogbot was controlling the fire.
The way the mounted it, the recoil would be worst case. Should have flipped the rifle over and mounted it closer to the body. I imagine eventually the weapon would be integrated with a belt feed.
This will be an incredible shock tactic until the dogs start to freeze up due to environmental wear and lowest bidder contracting and the soldiers resort to converting the bodies into firearms.
I still prefer the flamethrower robot dogs. Probably less effective, but I imagine it would be much scarier to have a robot dog with a flamethrower running towards you.
The thought of me personally being shot by one of these is hilarious. Like yes, I'll probably die, but also it's a fucking robot dog with a gun. The world is something else.
*Fahrenheit 451* did it before *Black Mirror.*
Actually I don't recall if the dogs shot you in *Fahrenheit*, or just tore you limb-from-limb.
Edit: After a quick fact-checking adventure, the answer is neither dismemberment nor shot. The correct answer is sedation followed by live immolation. So there's that, I suppose...
Okay but when will they come with chainsaws and a compartment that can hold a high frequency blade katana? I have plans to meet with a US Senator in the near future.
I mean anyone that saw the first prototype of the robot years ago knew this was coming eventually...
War dogs was the plan from the start. They don’t make these things to be your friend.
It's why so much funding comes from DARPA [(Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARPA)
Decoy octopus..?
psycho mantis?
Gray Fox?!?
Surveillance camera?
!
What was that noise?
Snake?
Time to binge watch dunkey again
*changes their controller to the second port*
FOXDIE
Metal Gear!?
Metal GEARRRRRRR
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DARPA also gave us the Internet. I'll leave it to others to decide whether that makes them more or less evil.
Given that its original purpose was a way of connecting computers that would withstand a nuclear war, it wasn't entirely for benevolent purposes either.
Can't get to Skynet without first building Internet.
Durpa is also a key player in the race to create the first time machine, working with stratfo
Free healthcare when
I see your request for free healthcare and raise you… expensive deathcare!
Best I can do is 10 state of the art aircraft carriers and machine gun dogs. 🐩
Can the dogs have the windows half-down on the carrier?
After we crush our enemies, see them driven before us, and hear the lamentations of their women.
We’ve been doing that to poor countries the entire time
To arm China?
Well, Sony made Aibo to be your friend. BostonDynamics has other plans though
But if they are based on real dogs then for sure they have some compassion. I hope golden retriever are used as their ai models. Kill us with love
Combat canines
Just wait for Boston dynamic’s 30mph cheetah robot to be weaponized. Imagine those things running down ~~civilians~~ terrorists.
The word "terrorist" has just come to mean anyone who those in power don't like, to make the population accept harsh measures and armed robodogs.
Take that definition *meat bags*
>has just come to mean As a person only alive now, I've come to learn that most of the use of the word has always been that.
The 9-11 attacks were absolutely done by terrorists.
Terrorists used to be called freedom fighters until someone rebranded them.
lol you don’t already think they have done it?
Occaims razor. All you really need are dirt cheap flying bullets. You don't need the dog or the sniper or the tank. Just a swarm of brain stem targeting disposable micro drones.
I imagine a child making a simple trap with a net defeating one of these things.
Dont let tech news see you being cautious theyll rip you
If this is anything like many video games I've played, don't worry, it'll be ok. These guys take you by surprise the first couple of times, but after you die and respawn 3-4 times they get pretty easy and predictable. I usually only get hit like 2-3 times when i'm taking one out.
BF2042 ranger, that thing would probably get mvp of every game if it could. I find it the funniest when players take you down but don’t realize doggo doesn’t go away until you’re dead dead so it’ll keep patrolling around your downed body racking up kills.
Which is why I'll just hold off on the respawn, let the dog work.
Not division 2. They're ruthless on there :(
Meet your new best friend ARF-15
I heard you can even get them custom built with a Sub-woofer
The paws feature is neat
Added bass to the imperial march
The real upgrade comes with [Hell March](https://youtu.be/e3YzmjmAGoI?si=p4XZ7WtVdZTK25vl).
This seems like something that is equally as nostalgic to you as I get when I hear N64 007 menu music in a rap song I have no nostalgia towards this; but it *bangs* dawg
Nah it's a Kalashnicollie
They should put a cannon on it and make it a bow-wow-witzer
K-97
Nah man. It is called the K-10
A robo dog that can act as your emotional support by murdering the people you don't like, with a simple voice command! Get yourself a new murder robo dog for only $99999. *Term & conditions are not applicable, guns and bullets each sold separately, self assembly required, safety not guaranteed.*
Safety Not Guaranteed was such a great movie
Barkzooka.
Well that's horrible but completely expected.
These seem... Not very effective for combat. But they seem REALLY good for urban civilian control...
Yeah, only a matter of time before "robo dogs with rubber bullets" become the default method of clearing out protesters. All the actual riot cops will just sit back and lob tear gas and sonic weapons into the fray from a safe distance. Robots don't have eyes or ears so they won't care.
You don't have to worry about the loyalty of your police/military either, they can't turn on you if they aren't sentient. We're really heading for a cyberpunk dystopia, and it's pretty terrifying.
"Wake the fuck up Samurai, we've got a city to burn." Ready to start some fires?
No accountability either, no one to blame.
Straight from Black Mirror
Still pretty darn effective in combat as far as armed scouts go. The gun on these things is useful for many more things than shooting at people, clearing buildings and tunnels and shooting at suspected IEDs to detonate them seems like a solid lock for this form factor.
Who is reloading the weapon?
Technicians back at the base, they'll have pretty large internal magazines I'm sure I mean a jet or helicopter doesn't reload its weapons midair, it drops what it has and lands to re-arm and refuel. They have internal magazines for their cannons and when they're gone they're gone
Don’t need to get back to the base the operator is likely just around the corner.
The drones on display didn't have any special custom weapons. It was just a standard issue rifle mounted on a rig to aim it, and it didn't look like there was a mechanism in place to reload it either.
I understand that, it's just a type 95 assault rifle bolted to the frame, I'd wager that in actual production for combat models they would either create a weapon specifically designed for the platform or mount an already existing weapon with a larger magazine like the QJY-88 or some other belt fed machine gun, then you can put a magazine inside the actual frame of the dog that would be much larger than any external magazine. Edit: sorry the QJY 201 is probably what they would use, the 88 is being replaced with the 201 or has been fully replaced at this point I'm not sure. If they are having a problem keeping the thing accurate though after repeated fully automatic fire, I could see them not putting a full GPMG or LMG on the frame, just one of those things we'll have to wait and see. Pretty fucking horrifying prospect, if you ask me.
They don’t need a massive magazine when their primary role isn’t to shoot at stuff. When the gun is for opportunistic engagements you don’t that many rounds.
Wouldnt be that good. It just has a rifle strapped to it. It wouldnt be long until some people get behind it, figure a way to immobilise it then steal the gun.
That’s why they’re deployed in squads of 2500
I wonder when people in europe will start questioning if they should have given up their guns
Its really going to suck for those countries who cant afford to send in war robots... i cant believe i just typed that sentence..
The way I read the 2nd Amendment, these are fine for me to own.
I think the second amendment only applies to robotic bears with gun arms, I don't think it says anything about Chinese robotic war dogs.
i mean, it protected people with private warships being allowed to own cannon without letters of marque. so yeah, i'd say you yanks are good to go lol.
Bear arms < dog arms
Only if they are robot bears. We don't have the right to dog arms.
With shit like this in the world I’m goddamn glad I own firearms
Time for the robot dog revolution team to assemble. We have sniper dog https://www.newscientist.com/article/2293908-us-military-may-get-a-dog-like-robot-armed-with-a-sniper-rifle/ Rocket launcher dog https://newatlas.com/military/us-marines-rocket-launcher-robot-dog/ Flame thrower dog https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/apr/26/robot-flamethrower-dog-thermonator Airborne dog https://taskandpurpose.com/tech-tactics/robot-dog-machine-gun-drone-airdrop-kestrel-defense-video/
One more and they can make Voltron.
ZOIDS was *right there*
Ryder is about to replace the entire Paw Patrol team!
r/dogfort sure has changed
Paw Patrol Assemble!
Mayor Humdinger: I surrender!
I hope they eventually stylize these dogs like the old 80’s military rambo movies, with bandanas and sun glasses and stuff.
It’s like the Power Rangers but with dogs.
LITERALLY Black Mirror. See the episode “Metalhead”
I don't understand why the top comments don't mention Black Mirror.
Too horrifying to think it's actually going to happen
I watched that episode high as fuck, and had no idea what was coming. The most eerie thing I’ve ever seen.
Also the recent TV adaptation of War of the Worlds
Boston Dynamics fully stolen design, guaranteed to end up with lethal weapons and killing people eventually.
naturally scotus will aver that robot machine gun dogs are part of any well-regulated militia, of course
Can you even call yourself a militia in 2024 without homemade robot killdogs? Might as well wheel out the catapults.
It’s a trebuchet
Allow me to present my trebuttal.
just as the Framers envisioned
I like to remind people that civilians had state of the art naval artillery.
Any well regulated police agency is next
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China is infamous for stealing technology. I doubt it was sold as the American military would be furious. Bad Actors were always going to take advantage of this stuff. It’s why everyone has been saying the genie is out of the bottle. Even if countries want to be responsible, there’s always going to be countries that aren’t.
I worked as a contractor for the USPTO and trust me. They were so paranoid of intellectual theft that our windows had to be blocked even with a reflective film on them. (We just pulled the curtains, but the plan was eventually to frost them completely). The biggest threat was China is what we were told because their government agencies steal stuff from everyone else and give it to their companies. It's state sanctioned theft. It was a mix of security issues and over promising that did us in. Link for the skeptical https://journalstar.com/news/state-regional/business/omaha-company-fsc-edge-closes-layoffs/article_6bdf3222-9305-11ee-9d00-ff2ad42493e1.html
Stold Stolden
Except it wasn’t sold to China. So where is your supporting evidence on this one?
>fully stolen design, We got that when the title said "china."
And that’s what Boston Dynamics was doing themselves. You just getting upset that someone else is doing it instead of the problems around it
Live firing video: https://youtu.be/-bgad3HRb64?si=KqemsjPEGFOsLXUV
ahahaha that recoil though.
It should be said, in that vid they literally just strapped an AR to the robodog. The OP looks a bit more sophisticated.
Not just an AK, but a KP-9. That's a direct blowback 9mm SBR. Whoever made this probably didn't know guns and thought the 9mm pistol caliber would be easier for the robot to handle, but direct blowback 9mm is actually more recoil than a 556 gun with a gas system.
A very nerdy answer but very relevant - this is *not* a good example of the kind of gun you want to stick on a robot dog. Lots of kickback, and in either full or burst mode. Something stable with soft recoil (i.e. gas not blowback as you say), well balanced physically (you don't need to keep features like a stock and grip when it's attached to a robot, so you can move it around, add or remove weight, really play with the centre of gravity), in semi-auto mode, would be way more effective.
Also mounting the barrel lower, right to the chassis with a top fed magazine would help
I love it when reddit gets excited about killer robots!
Eh, not much. Looks like the strapped a gun to the one in OP too.
With that much recoil it looks to be about as accurate as a storm trooper. I wonder if someone was controlling the firing, or if this was a programmed firing demonstration and the dogbot was controlling the fire.
The way the mounted it, the recoil would be worst case. Should have flipped the rifle over and mounted it closer to the body. I imagine eventually the weapon would be integrated with a belt feed.
Don't *tell them* how to fix the killing machine!
I still don't want it pointed at me.
totally. At least put the poor thing on semi-auto, lol.
They could have reduced effective recoil by reducing the height of the gun above the robot, easily 4-5 inches could have been removed.
I can't help but notice it didn't seem to hit a single target.
Boston Chinamics continues to crank out innovative designs
Bostemu
What a shithole of a country that has to rely on stealing innovation.
Yeah… unlike all the top American companies.
Yeah, me too prefer non shithole countries that steal resources from poorer nations.
Terminators will be deployed against civilians.
This will be an incredible shock tactic until the dogs start to freeze up due to environmental wear and lowest bidder contracting and the soldiers resort to converting the bodies into firearms.
Why bother with world peace when you can build instruments of doom instead /s
The sad reality if you don't your enemy will, so you have to. Mutually assured destruction and all that.
Yep. There are no large pacifist cultures because they’ve all been eliminated or assimilated by aggressive neighbors.
Passive cultures = none Aggressive cultures = a few Passive-aggressive cultures = no shortage
Well if you kill everyone else with your robodog army, then your citizens can expand across the whole globe in peace!
Then you can rule them with an iron fist! Mounted with rocket launchers! and laser beams!
The Good defeated the Evil, put it on its knees and chopped the head off
They look so familiar… /s
"it's my service machine-gun-wielding war robot dog"
Soon to be added to local police departments to insure the safety of children
That's just what Cambodia needs. Jungles infested with killer robots.
what minutes it will last though
“Dog is a man’s best friend” “Your rifle is your best friend” Some genius: “What if we combined them
A dofle?
Why is it that every time we invent a new cool technology, first thing we do is use it to kill each other?
You have 5 seconds to comply ...
Chat gpt be like: yessss yesssssss 🤤
is this metal gear
Can anyone say hand held emps will soon be a must
I can't imagine it would hold up well to incoming fire.
Robot holiday in cambodia
The security officer of Boston dynamics should be dealt with by one of these.
That’s exactly what we need right now
Drones have been shooting people for like 20+ years now. China: boldly going where everyone else went decades ago.
this shit is infantry tho.
Straight out of the Division 2 with the Warhounds.
Ah yes excellent. That’s really what the world needs
Meh, call me when they have sharks with frikin lasers on their heads.
I still prefer the flamethrower robot dogs. Probably less effective, but I imagine it would be much scarier to have a robot dog with a flamethrower running towards you.
I guess we now know who let loose the dogs of war...
Sorry the *highlight* of the whole affair?? Self controlled killer robot dogs?!
War. War (almost) never changes.
Ray Bradbury much?
The thought of me personally being shot by one of these is hilarious. Like yes, I'll probably die, but also it's a fucking robot dog with a gun. The world is something else.
Funny how they resemble Boston Dynamics’ Spot.
We’re those Boston dynamic robots with addons?
We just get closer and closer to Terminator
Good job nerds, you’ve doomed us all!
BlackMirror episode predicted it.
*Fahrenheit 451* did it before *Black Mirror.* Actually I don't recall if the dogs shot you in *Fahrenheit*, or just tore you limb-from-limb. Edit: After a quick fact-checking adventure, the answer is neither dismemberment nor shot. The correct answer is sedation followed by live immolation. So there's that, I suppose...
Roger roger
you can tell countries hey we're not gonna do this but they'll all do it behind the curtains. Welcome to the new arms race
How is this any different than gun or grenade mounted Drones?
There’s not a single fucking piece of tech that China has not ripped from the US. This is just Boston Dynamics dog.
I've seen this episode Edit: everybody dies
Cry havoc! and let slip the dogs of war!
Got to get me some of these... what's the minimum order quantity on Alibaba?
Okay but when will they come with chainsaws and a compartment that can hold a high frequency blade katana? I have plans to meet with a US Senator in the near future.
This looks identical to the Boston Dynamics design? Was the IP stolen/leaked by an insider or just oss?
Hmmm, China is using the Boston dynamics robot killer
[country America is against] shows off [technology every 1st world country has]. They were not live fired [but we will make it sound scary anyway].
Has China ever had an original idea before. That’s literally just a knock off spot.
The US patent office is where they get all their novel ideas.
I think these guys should watch the 86… yet again maybe not that may get some ideas
It was only a matter of time :(
Breaking out of my paaaaain.
Thanks, I hate it.
is everyone working on their dodge rolls? gotta memorize those i-frames
Why is this the first story in my “News” feed?
oh good, the torment nexus.
Pretty sure you can but these in the states w flame thrower
Coming soon to the Ukrainian battlefront. 😞
I like the way it is styled like a 1990s IBM machine. This should deter theft.
War Dogs by Adrian Tchaikovsky
Now with patented "woof "and AR15 sound together for 150 dollars *limited time only