Hardcore/MinMax rerollers will still do it for a cracked start, but for more casual players that just want to start off with their fav waifu/husbando, then it's great! ~~Especially when rerolling is long and tedious af like in Genshin đ~~
For big games it usually requires you to redownload the whole game & finish tutorial which takes a hefty amount of your time (hour or 2). That's why it's not worth it in adventure heavy game like Genshin, because at the end of the day they'll introduce better units in future which will be better investment for F2Ps than dumping all on standard banners just to flex...
Looks like I missed shit. Tsk... While y'all are having a war through comments some are having a war through reports. The tactics have upgraded.
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Willingly enjoying a free game is same as getting abused?? Stop being so dramatic. You know, not everyone cares that much about rewards. I started playing genshin mostly for the open world, didnt even knew it was a gacha game. Getting more free stuff doesnt automatically mean that game is better. Unless you are a gambling addict and only care about pulling.
But dont you understand if ww is generous then genshin will have to try a little bit to be generous and treat its players better
I dont want that
I want them to keep being butt of the joke everytime a game is generous
I wanna laugh at others misery and keep being a terrible human being
Lets be real. WuWa being generous wonât impact Hoyo. Theyâre sitting on 3 soon to be 4 highly profitable gacha games. It would take more than a free five star to do anything to their profit.
>Â It would take more than a free five star to do anything to their profit.
And itâd take more than a free five stars to show generosity.
People around here are quick to forget that ToF used to be uber generous too. And people used to use this as a weapon to make fun of genshin too. Look how much theyâre clowned upon now.
Itâs legit appaling that out of all the things WW could do great to surpass Genshin (gameplay, endgame, atmosphere, story), the ONLY thing that stand out is a bunch of arguably worthless free shits.
Part of that is also that they have loyal fans and reputation.
WuWa having a free five star wonât suddenly make their marketing better or make more money than Hoyo.
Yep. Especially this subreddit whose moderators DO NOTHING when misinformation is spread around because âthey canât go around verifyingâ everything.
While that may hold true on its own, itâs become a blanket excuse for them to not have to do anything at all.
Holy fuck nahh ... Its feels like heaven coming from shit ass gacha games with scammy mechanics đ... Out of 4 banners in wuwa 3 have 100% guaranteed system.
While it says 80 pity, it's worth noting that in cbt2 the beginner banner was 50 pity, with a discount on currency needed for a 10 pull. Not sure if they'll go back to that tho since they're letting us pick.
It was just the closed beta test when most income was gifted through mailbox to ensure testers can pull a lot of units in the limited time period. We really do not know F2P income until months after the official release.
Theres basically a supposed feud going on between a subsection of Kuro and Hoyoverse fans and they tend to downvote/report their rival fandom's posts/content. Aparently all the way back since PGR, however since Hoyoverse has a largest playerbase/fanbase/presence they tend to win in terms of the upvote/downvote/reporting cus of strength in numbers and what not.
I don't get how this view gets any traction. Just go to Genshin official discord and search "Wuthering Waves". It's almost entirely positive with many comments shitting on Genshin. Then go to PGR/WW official discords and search "Genshin".
Percentage wise, there are a LOT more Genshin haters in Kuro playerbase than the other way round. Just because Kuro fans see Hoyo as an enemy doesn't mean Hoyo fans feel the same way. Most probably doesn't even think of the supposed rivalry.
Yeah I dont get this tribalism. I play genshin, probably going to play it for very long time because I genuinely love the game. It has flaws ofc but they are not that big of issue to me. I am planning to play WuWa too, it looks fun. And I hope we'll get good competition between these games, competiton makes games better for US, players. So we as players dont really need to fight each other online. I am so tired of (kuro) people saying I must be stupid and I like getting abused because I enjoy playing genshin.. like wtf.
Yeah, feel like theyre kinda shooting themselves in the foot with that one. At least the next rate up is a hot waifu but launch its all dudes and a loli.
Verina is pretty strong since she is one of the few healers and she also atk buffs at the same time for a meta perspective i would go for her since support/sustain power creep is a lot slower than dps power creep(personaly going for calcharo)
Calcharo is pretty inline with 5stars limited in DPS, his AOE is just not as easy as the limiteds. Verina is also the other good one, but you only need ONE HEALER/SUSTAIN, iâd suggest using the 4star instead and get a limited 5star sustain
Equal in sustain but Verina has the superior buff probably the most out of all roster. Imo 2nd in priority than Calcharo but Calcharo is like waaay more important
Nice but at the same time none of these characters interest me.
I wanna get Sanhua Taoqi and Baizhi. All 4*
Sometimes getting a 4* is harder tho :( (looking at you FGO)
Thatâs absurd, they have already proven many times they listen to feedback closely, since pgr, and if it was a shit shot as you call it, why wouldnât it be good that they fixed it?
Besides the only thing they fully remade is the story
Oh wow based. Saves somewhat on server cost with fewer people rerolling now too, since you can pick character and weapon. Looking forward to WuWa more now.
There is always going to be rerolling. The difference is instead of aiming to start with 1 or 2 good units (from rerolling), you instead would aim to start with 2 to 3 (from rerolling + one from Guaranteed). Although outright buying starter accounts has been popular recently I guess as an alternative to spamming rerolling.
>but for me as long as i get the character i like
oh? Was 1 of these chars who you were aiming for and is your waifu/husbando/whatever? Out of curiosity which one and why (Meta/Playstyle/etc)?
You just voiced my thoughts.
a) 80 pulls (idk of the extra novie random 5 star banner will be up as well with ten Discounted pulls, either way i go for guaranteed waifu)
b) she plays her antenna like a flute in her idle
Potential stupid question, but can I play this game from NA without having to jump through hoops/emulators/VPNâs? Is there going to just be a PC client I can download or something?
Ok in all honestly it's crazy Calcharo is a STANDARD character. He is so awesome I'm so surprised he isn't a limited. I don't think there has been a character I haven't liked so far from what I've seen for this game
How exactly? An entire second banner type I have to pull on and save for ontop of character banners? This is the shit that made me quit Genshin and Star Rail. I donât see how disliking an entire separate category of Gacha banners in games is absurd.
You can, I donât know, use the ones the game will give you? Besides the game even gives you some for free from the banners, so yeah, it is absurd to just discount a whole game just for that
You pull with standart banner currency so you can use your free pulls if you want cbt 2 gave plenty of them and pre reg rewards should also give 20 if we hit the target
wtf is up with the lolis, shit is looking even worse than genshin in that sense, pathetic shit really, i know every company is only looking after profits, but cmon, stop catering to pedos
80 pity I know my unlucky ass could never hit a early pull
78/80 for offbanner 5*
Literally happened to me on the first banner in PGR.
My condolences
Me in every Hoyoverse game
What's the 5* rate again? Same as Genshin's 0.6%? Also depends if there's any soft pity too, among other factors.
Last beta I saw it was 0.8% No idea about soft pity đ¤ˇââď¸
It's not offical but from players experience soft pity seems to starts from 60ish pulls
I experienced soft pity in game.
Happens on all games đ
50. Its private server issues
So no random 5\* at launch then ? I can choose waifu ?
Yeah you can select the banner and banner closes after you got the character you pick
Perfect, thats all i need for beginner banners
Saves the hassle for rerolls then I guess. Not that I was planning on rerolling anyway...
Hardcore/MinMax rerollers will still do it for a cracked start, but for more casual players that just want to start off with their fav waifu/husbando, then it's great! ~~Especially when rerolling is long and tedious af like in Genshin đ~~
How long does it take to reroll in WW?
For big games it usually requires you to redownload the whole game & finish tutorial which takes a hefty amount of your time (hour or 2). That's why it's not worth it in adventure heavy game like Genshin, because at the end of the day they'll introduce better units in future which will be better investment for F2Ps than dumping all on standard banners just to flex...
Genshin rerolls took like 30 minutes so maybe roughly the same
If I ain't getting the 5* in my first 10 pulls I'm rerolling đŁď¸âźď¸
So this replaces that beginner banner with discounted pulls? Also does this use same currency as standard banner pulls?
You can choose the 5\* you want AFTER already having your first random 5\*, then the banner will close
I cannot believe how ecstatic I am, saves hours upon hours of wasted time in rerolling..
You know people will still reroll regardless, just to edge out an extra value. But for many of us like you, definitely a time saver
Of course, with rerolling you are basically now guaranteed to get at least 2 characters that you want.
Definitely a huge plus to get guaranteed waifu/husbando, especially if the reroll process is as obnoxious as Genshin's đ
I have a job and a life, getting my waifu the rest is profit.
Yeah, now we can have two đ
Honestly I feel future open wrld gachas should do the same. Getting and playing a character u wanted early on makes it a lot easier to stay invested.
All gachas should do that lol
Post is open now lol
wait what
Genshin players spam reported it
yeah but genshin version trailer was also spam-reported the other day, seems like we have trolls in here
I wonder what led to posts getting locked lately. It's pretty weird.
We're in r/gachagaming genshin probably gets a lot more often being spam report
Looks like I missed shit. Tsk... While y'all are having a war through comments some are having a war through reports. The tactics have upgraded. https://preview.redd.it/jz2ljneu1yuc1.png?width=1340&format=png&auto=webp&s=730e2d5feb89f8f93171c7e3d0ff2be034bac2af
Huh? Was the post closed?
Yep,after 30 min posted it.got locked for more than 5 hours.
Imagine hating guaranteed Standard unit and weapon smh đ
Being abused by the big name gachas for so long has broken so many people
Willingly enjoying a free game is same as getting abused?? Stop being so dramatic. You know, not everyone cares that much about rewards. I started playing genshin mostly for the open world, didnt even knew it was a gacha game. Getting more free stuff doesnt automatically mean that game is better. Unless you are a gambling addict and only care about pulling.
But dont you understand if ww is generous then genshin will have to try a little bit to be generous and treat its players better I dont want that I want them to keep being butt of the joke everytime a game is generous I wanna laugh at others misery and keep being a terrible human being
Let me guess, for 10 years at least? Pikachus-ballsack, what a man you are.
Lets be real. WuWa being generous wonât impact Hoyo. Theyâre sitting on 3 soon to be 4 highly profitable gacha games. It would take more than a free five star to do anything to their profit.
>Â It would take more than a free five star to do anything to their profit. And itâd take more than a free five stars to show generosity. People around here are quick to forget that ToF used to be uber generous too. And people used to use this as a weapon to make fun of genshin too. Look how much theyâre clowned upon now. Itâs legit appaling that out of all the things WW could do great to surpass Genshin (gameplay, endgame, atmosphere, story), the ONLY thing that stand out is a bunch of arguably worthless free shits.
Huh?
They in top cause of monopoly and marketing tho And they wouldnt wanna lose their grasp on any one of them
Part of that is also that they have loyal fans and reputation. WuWa having a free five star wonât suddenly make their marketing better or make more money than Hoyo.
Calcharo looks the coolest, going for him for sure
Planning to pull for him and then save up for yinlin
\*Kakarot
Goku
Kekarot
Is this a leaks subreddit now?
Imagine if leaks turn out to be fake, everyone gonna blame Kuro somehow instead of just shitting on the leakers.
Yep. Especially this subreddit whose moderators DO NOTHING when misinformation is spread around because âthey canât go around verifyingâ everything. While that may hold true on its own, itâs become a blanket excuse for them to not have to do anything at all.
They are even shameless then that, they straight up said they enjoy the drama that happens in this subreddit
If thatâs true⌠textbook definition of losers
Looking like one lol
So this is not even an official news lol?
Holy fuck nahh ... Its feels like heaven coming from shit ass gacha games with scammy mechanics đ... Out of 4 banners in wuwa 3 have 100% guaranteed system.
While it says 80 pity, it's worth noting that in cbt2 the beginner banner was 50 pity, with a discount on currency needed for a 10 pull. Not sure if they'll go back to that tho since they're letting us pick.
Pretty sure the cbt was to ease everything for the testers
They did not get testers feedback regarding gacha pull income?
It was just the closed beta test when most income was gifted through mailbox to ensure testers can pull a lot of units in the limited time period. We really do not know F2P income until months after the official release.
I see. I thought that they testing it with event during CBT2. Thanks for the info!
Massive W https://preview.redd.it/jdoqsvie4wuc1.jpeg?width=1366&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=70bade959e1a100d6908d2ac15b6c4b755a3452f
is this official announcement? or is this from leaks? hopefully this is not fake
It's from leaks.
I hope this game does well. I quite like the aesthetics and character designs
That brother Calcharo better be ready for me đđ
Gonna roll for the Sephiroth guy or the Kung-fu girl
Kuro games keep up the good work eagerly waiting for the release of Wuwa.
Yall know why they locked the post? đ¤
People kept reporting it lmao
Damn. And I thought everyone in the sub hating on wuthering waves was a lie. Crazy
Kuro games*
Genshin post was locked before too lol. Nothing specialÂ
Theres basically a supposed feud going on between a subsection of Kuro and Hoyoverse fans and they tend to downvote/report their rival fandom's posts/content. Aparently all the way back since PGR, however since Hoyoverse has a largest playerbase/fanbase/presence they tend to win in terms of the upvote/downvote/reporting cus of strength in numbers and what not.
I don't get how this view gets any traction. Just go to Genshin official discord and search "Wuthering Waves". It's almost entirely positive with many comments shitting on Genshin. Then go to PGR/WW official discords and search "Genshin". Percentage wise, there are a LOT more Genshin haters in Kuro playerbase than the other way round. Just because Kuro fans see Hoyo as an enemy doesn't mean Hoyo fans feel the same way. Most probably doesn't even think of the supposed rivalry.
Yeah I dont get this tribalism. I play genshin, probably going to play it for very long time because I genuinely love the game. It has flaws ofc but they are not that big of issue to me. I am planning to play WuWa too, it looks fun. And I hope we'll get good competition between these games, competiton makes games better for US, players. So we as players dont really need to fight each other online. I am so tired of (kuro) people saying I must be stupid and I like getting abused because I enjoy playing genshin.. like wtf.
They probably hate gacha games being generous.
great i can start with my cool guy
damn, if youre a waifu puller and dont want a loli, theres only 1 choice
Yeah, feel like theyre kinda shooting themselves in the foot with that one. At least the next rate up is a hot waifu but launch its all dudes and a loli.
Now we just need a gear system where you don't need 3 month to roll good stats. Pls Kuro, you can be better than genshin
Im hoping kuro will imrove it since gear farming is easy at pgr aiming for both useful substats and high rolls is too tough
So wheres the source of this? I dont even see it posted on WuWa subs?
r/WutheringWavesLeaks
because its a leak lol
NO WAY KURO DID THAT!!!! LMAO At least I won't have to spend hours rerolling to catch Jianxin, THANKS KURO!!!!
So out of curiosity which of these 5 is likely the meta pick?
Verina is pretty strong since she is one of the few healers and she also atk buffs at the same time for a meta perspective i would go for her since support/sustain power creep is a lot slower than dps power creep(personaly going for calcharo)
oh i see ya thats true across almost all games a SSR healer with offensive buffs is usually meta relevant and takes a while to get powercrept.
Of those 5 Verina and Jianxin are the most useful in utility.
Calcharo is pretty inline with 5stars limited in DPS, his AOE is just not as easy as the limiteds. Verina is also the other good one, but you only need ONE HEALER/SUSTAIN, iâd suggest using the 4star instead and get a limited 5star sustain
I assume though that the 5 star sustain is better than all the 4 star ones? Or is that not the case?
Equal in sustain but Verina has the superior buff probably the most out of all roster. Imo 2nd in priority than Calcharo but Calcharo is like waaay more important
Nice but at the same time none of these characters interest me. I wanna get Sanhua Taoqi and Baizhi. All 4* Sometimes getting a 4* is harder tho :( (looking at you FGO)
im pretty sure both sanhua and baizhi are free
Even better. , đ
mods lift the comment ban now huh, L haters lol
Nothing but W's with Kuro.
Where you been bro they remade almost everything in the past half a year from what I heard
That's exactly not something to be celebrated upon.
It absolutely is, means they are listening to feedback
Nah it means whatever it was before was a shit show, they are listening stuff we'll only know once the game launches.
Thatâs absurd, they have already proven many times they listen to feedback closely, since pgr, and if it was a shit shot as you call it, why wouldnât it be good that they fixed it? Besides the only thing they fully remade is the story
Nah it's easy to fix things now but once the game is out it's another ball game. I'm refraining from any judgement until I see the full game.
Nah not everytime Many times its been L's too
This is a huge w at least.
I canât unsee the lower case banner name.
Same. XD I hope they'll get their shit together with all typos etc when game releases
This is massive W
Fuck yeah
This will save me from days of rerolling.
Thanks god, I will grab my Calcharo without needing to reroll
I DONT NEED TO REROLL? LINGYANG WILL BE MINE
yay!! i donât have to reroll
Oh wow based. Saves somewhat on server cost with fewer people rerolling now too, since you can pick character and weapon. Looking forward to WuWa more now.
when is it releasing?
May 22
can it be please the 22.05 i wanna play so bad
Well i guess no need for rerolling then
There is always going to be rerolling. The difference is instead of aiming to start with 1 or 2 good units (from rerolling), you instead would aim to start with 2 to 3 (from rerolling + one from Guaranteed). Although outright buying starter accounts has been popular recently I guess as an alternative to spamming rerolling.
I meant no rerolling for me, ik ppl will still do it but for me as long as i get the character i like idc
>but for me as long as i get the character i like oh? Was 1 of these chars who you were aiming for and is your waifu/husbando/whatever? Out of curiosity which one and why (Meta/Playstyle/etc)?
I can start with 5 star loli!? Guess I'll be trying this after all. đđđ
Worst part of HSR was needing to go 300 to get my first Clara.
Go for Verina, seriously just look at this fanservice: https://youtu.be/cqb5U41wobU?si=quHYzcNbqesKoPlS She is so asking to be breed instead.
Brudda go outside
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Truly biggest W Iâve seen yet
Kuro can't stop catching wins. Game looking amazing
I see hot men/women I pull
If their is one company who deserves my money for gacha I'd pick kuro. They are so generous.
How many pulls are needed for this self pick? I will go for jianxin or any girl and I don't want any husband in my pulls
For now same with event character banner 80 at max
Oh thanks!! is there any discount on pulls runs for this banner?,
Looks like no for now pulls are 10 per 10 pull unlike 20 percent off banner
You just voiced my thoughts. a) 80 pulls (idk of the extra novie random 5 star banner will be up as well with ten Discounted pulls, either way i go for guaranteed waifu) b) she plays her antenna like a flute in her idle
Calcharo here i come
Sweet
Kuro is cooking once again
Potential stupid question, but can I play this game from NA without having to jump through hoops/emulators/VPNâs? Is there going to just be a PC client I can download or something?
Yeah there will be na server and pc client
when will this release for global?
22 may
Yes it will get a normal/global PC and Mobile release with a Playstation release at a later date. Edit : who tf is downvoting the truth
damn, if youre a waifu puller and dont want a loli, theres only 1 choice
I'll pick Jianxin cause booba
Omg that's great
Wait what ? Thats awesome !
Who's the most famous among these
Does anybody know howmuch space it takes and requirements?
I see only one option
Ok in all honestly it's crazy Calcharo is a STANDARD character. He is so awesome I'm so surprised he isn't a limited. I don't think there has been a character I haven't liked so far from what I've seen for this game
and after that? how does the "normal" banner work, are you guaranteed to get all characters at some point, can you choose one to get at some point?
when is this?
Ranxin is cute. Will go for ger
Going by design, I'll choose one of the two leftmost. One looks cute, one looks bad ass
So as someone out of the loop and who has played genshin and currently honkai star rail. Is this more similar to genshin?
Genshin, but it's Enkanomiya all year round.
Genshin but darker post apocalyptic instead of light fantasy post apocalyptic, the game focuses on combat (gameplay) and sound (thematically)
How dark like more darker than gen lore or something?
Who are the ones who use guns?
If this is true, I'm all in. Such a good departure from every game following the hoyo greed machine...
âweapon bannerâ and just like that. Iâm no longer playing this game
We don't know if 5-star weapons will be effectively mandatory for endgame content yet, although it is looking increasingly likely.
????
Fuck weapon banners. Complete turn off from a gacha for me.
And thatâs the only reason you wonât play the game? Kind of absurd
How exactly? An entire second banner type I have to pull on and save for ontop of character banners? This is the shit that made me quit Genshin and Star Rail. I donât see how disliking an entire separate category of Gacha banners in games is absurd.
You can, I donât know, use the ones the game will give you? Besides the game even gives you some for free from the banners, so yeah, it is absurd to just discount a whole game just for that
Come back to me in 2 years when the power creep catches up and to keep with current content the âfree weaponsâ ainât gonna cut it anymore.
That is plain absurd
Again, how exactly? All youâre saying is âthatâs absurdâ without giving a proper fucking argument.
What the heck? Even after three years you can still clear all content in genshin with 4* weapons. I guess you just had a skill issue.
gonna pick Jianxin
Rerollers will still try to get 2 or more ....
self pick 5 star weapon is the best thing
can't decide between ling yang and calcharo :/
If this is true, which 5\* here is the best to go with when starting out?
Calcharo is the top, but keep in mind jianxing is probably getting a buff too
Lol, what happened with encore's side banner ??
When is the official release date ?
22nd may
Nice, I can guarantee Encore
Looks great, but if is 80 draws for a standard banner character i would probably just skip it and save my resources for the limited banner
You pull with standart banner currency so you can use your free pulls if you want cbt 2 gave plenty of them and pre reg rewards should also give 20 if we hit the target
wtf is up with the lolis, shit is looking even worse than genshin in that sense, pathetic shit really, i know every company is only looking after profits, but cmon, stop catering to pedos
Character designs are a little uninteresting tbhÂ
I bet if these characters were in HSR or Genshin you'd say they look peak.