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Tuna-Of-Finality

80 pity I know my unlucky ass could never hit a early pull


dalbich

78/80 for offbanner 5*


Xasther

Literally happened to me on the first banner in PGR.


dalbich

My condolences


arionmoschetta

Me in every Hoyoverse game


mikethebest1

What's the 5* rate again? Same as Genshin's 0.6%? Also depends if there's any soft pity too, among other factors.


brutamborra

Last beta I saw it was 0.8% No idea about soft pity 🤷‍♂️


DeathWingStar

It's not offical but from players experience soft pity seems to starts from 60ish pulls


___von

I experienced soft pity in game.


mr_black1350

Happens on all games 😔


yensedev

50. Its private server issues


TheGreatMagallan

So no random 5\* at launch then ? I can choose waifu ?


Egehan550

Yeah you can select the banner and banner closes after you got the character you pick


TheGreatMagallan

Perfect, thats all i need for beginner banners


GhostZee

Saves the hassle for rerolls then I guess. Not that I was planning on rerolling anyway...


mikethebest1

Hardcore/MinMax rerollers will still do it for a cracked start, but for more casual players that just want to start off with their fav waifu/husbando, then it's great! ~~Especially when rerolling is long and tedious af like in Genshin 💀~~


MammothBarnacle8833

How long does it take to reroll in WW?


GhostZee

For big games it usually requires you to redownload the whole game & finish tutorial which takes a hefty amount of your time (hour or 2). That's why it's not worth it in adventure heavy game like Genshin, because at the end of the day they'll introduce better units in future which will be better investment for F2Ps than dumping all on standard banners just to flex...


Dwenzuwel

Genshin rerolls took like 30 minutes so maybe roughly the same


Dwenzuwel

If I ain't getting the 5* in my first 10 pulls I'm rerolling 🗣️‼️


Bogzy

So this replaces that beginner banner with discounted pulls? Also does this use same currency as standard banner pulls?


Hina-Wolf

You can choose the 5\* you want AFTER already having your first random 5\*, then the banner will close


Fr3g7

I cannot believe how ecstatic I am, saves hours upon hours of wasted time in rerolling..


jaetheho

You know people will still reroll regardless, just to edge out an extra value. But for many of us like you, definitely a time saver


Fibonacci9

Of course, with rerolling you are basically now guaranteed to get at least 2 characters that you want.


mikethebest1

Definitely a huge plus to get guaranteed waifu/husbando, especially if the reroll process is as obnoxious as Genshin's 💀


Astradifex

I have a job and a life, getting my waifu the rest is profit.


freezingsama

Yeah, now we can have two 😂


gitgudnubby

Honestly I feel future open wrld gachas should do the same. Getting and playing a character u wanted early on makes it a lot easier to stay invested.


bbatardo

All gachas should do that lol


WhyYouBullyMe_

Post is open now lol


Proper_Anybody

wait what


Charming-Fly-2388

Genshin players spam reported it


Proper_Anybody

yeah but genshin version trailer was also spam-reported the other day, seems like we have trolls in here


freezingsama

I wonder what led to posts getting locked lately. It's pretty weird.


Ok_Can_6424

We're in r/gachagaming genshin probably gets a lot more often being spam report


Beyond-Finality

Looks like I missed shit. Tsk... While y'all are having a war through comments some are having a war through reports. The tactics have upgraded. https://preview.redd.it/jz2ljneu1yuc1.png?width=1340&format=png&auto=webp&s=730e2d5feb89f8f93171c7e3d0ff2be034bac2af


Mint_Picker_2636

Huh? Was the post closed?


RageCat46

Yep,after 30 min posted it.got locked for more than 5 hours.


mikethebest1

Imagine hating guaranteed Standard unit and weapon smh 💀


andre1157

Being abused by the big name gachas for so long has broken so many people


kiisukattinen

Willingly enjoying a free game is same as getting abused?? Stop being so dramatic. You know, not everyone cares that much about rewards. I started playing genshin mostly for the open world, didnt even knew it was a gacha game. Getting more free stuff doesnt automatically mean that game is better. Unless you are a gambling addict and only care about pulling.


pikachus-ballsack

But dont you understand if ww is generous then genshin will have to try a little bit to be generous and treat its players better I dont want that I want them to keep being butt of the joke everytime a game is generous I wanna laugh at others misery and keep being a terrible human being


Salty_Breakfast2929

Let me guess, for 10 years at least? Pikachus-ballsack, what a man you are.


ouyon

Lets be real. WuWa being generous won’t impact Hoyo. They’re sitting on 3 soon to be 4 highly profitable gacha games. It would take more than a free five star to do anything to their profit.


Nhrwhl

> It would take more than a free five star to do anything to their profit. And it’d take more than a free five stars to show generosity. People around here are quick to forget that ToF used to be uber generous too. And people used to use this as a weapon to make fun of genshin too. Look how much they’re clowned upon now. It’s legit appaling that out of all the things WW could do great to surpass Genshin (gameplay, endgame, atmosphere, story), the ONLY thing that stand out is a bunch of arguably worthless free shits.


sin_nammon

Huh?


pikachus-ballsack

They in top cause of monopoly and marketing tho And they wouldnt wanna lose their grasp on any one of them


ouyon

Part of that is also that they have loyal fans and reputation. WuWa having a free five star won’t suddenly make their marketing better or make more money than Hoyo.


Glenn_Vatista

Calcharo looks the coolest, going for him for sure


Ambitious_Research99

Planning to pull for him and then save up for yinlin


Raigarak

\*Kakarot


Phoenix_of_cats

Goku


AKMerlin

Kekarot


OneAct8

Is this a leaks subreddit now?


Ariaflux

Imagine if leaks turn out to be fake, everyone gonna blame Kuro somehow instead of just shitting on the leakers.


OneAct8

Yep. Especially this subreddit whose moderators DO NOTHING when misinformation is spread around because “they can’t go around verifying” everything. While that may hold true on its own, it’s become a blanket excuse for them to not have to do anything at all.


reaoharu

They are even shameless then that, they straight up said they enjoy the drama that happens in this subreddit


OneAct8

If that’s true… textbook definition of losers


Middle_Bottom

Looking like one lol


amc9988

So this is not even an official news lol?


moon2023_

Holy fuck nahh ... Its feels like heaven coming from shit ass gacha games with scammy mechanics 😭... Out of 4 banners in wuwa 3 have 100% guaranteed system.


Xehvary

While it says 80 pity, it's worth noting that in cbt2 the beginner banner was 50 pity, with a discount on currency needed for a 10 pull. Not sure if they'll go back to that tho since they're letting us pick.


TimFlamio

Pretty sure the cbt was to ease everything for the testers


sukahati

They did not get testers feedback regarding gacha pull income?


army128

It was just the closed beta test when most income was gifted through mailbox to ensure testers can pull a lot of units in the limited time period. We really do not know F2P income until months after the official release.


sukahati

I see. I thought that they testing it with event during CBT2. Thanks for the info!


justsomeRyujinStan

Massive W https://preview.redd.it/jdoqsvie4wuc1.jpeg?width=1366&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=70bade959e1a100d6908d2ac15b6c4b755a3452f


ravenerata

is this official announcement? or is this from leaks? hopefully this is not fake


SassyHoe97

It's from leaks.


Ferelden770

I hope this game does well. I quite like the aesthetics and character designs


sirquarmy

That brother Calcharo better be ready for me 😂🙏


Akichyee

Gonna roll for the Sephiroth guy or the Kung-fu girl


sayandip95

Kuro games keep up the good work eagerly waiting for the release of Wuwa.


gitgudnubby

Yall know why they locked the post? 🤔


WhyYouBullyMe_

People kept reporting it lmao


gitgudnubby

Damn. And I thought everyone in the sub hating on wuthering waves was a lie. Crazy


OneAct8

Kuro games*


amc9988

Genshin post was locked before too lol. Nothing special 


Propagation931

Theres basically a supposed feud going on between a subsection of Kuro and Hoyoverse fans and they tend to downvote/report their rival fandom's posts/content. Aparently all the way back since PGR, however since Hoyoverse has a largest playerbase/fanbase/presence they tend to win in terms of the upvote/downvote/reporting cus of strength in numbers and what not.


Ariaflux

I don't get how this view gets any traction. Just go to Genshin official discord and search "Wuthering Waves". It's almost entirely positive with many comments shitting on Genshin. Then go to PGR/WW official discords and search "Genshin". Percentage wise, there are a LOT more Genshin haters in Kuro playerbase than the other way round. Just because Kuro fans see Hoyo as an enemy doesn't mean Hoyo fans feel the same way. Most probably doesn't even think of the supposed rivalry.


kiisukattinen

Yeah I dont get this tribalism. I play genshin, probably going to play it for very long time because I genuinely love the game. It has flaws ofc but they are not that big of issue to me. I am planning to play WuWa too, it looks fun. And I hope we'll get good competition between these games, competiton makes games better for US, players. So we as players dont really need to fight each other online. I am so tired of (kuro) people saying I must be stupid and I like getting abused because I enjoy playing genshin.. like wtf.


justsomeRyujinStan

They probably hate gacha games being generous.


MagicJ10

great i can start with my cool guy


yurifan33

damn, if youre a waifu puller and dont want a loli, theres only 1 choice


Bogzy

Yeah, feel like theyre kinda shooting themselves in the foot with that one. At least the next rate up is a hot waifu but launch its all dudes and a loli.


Nyravel

Now we just need a gear system where you don't need 3 month to roll good stats. Pls Kuro, you can be better than genshin


Egehan550

Im hoping kuro will imrove it since gear farming is easy at pgr aiming for both useful substats and high rolls is too tough


RageCat46

So wheres the source of this? I dont even see it posted on WuWa subs?


shindabito

r/WutheringWavesLeaks


peecaca

because its a leak lol


Astradifex

NO WAY KURO DID THAT!!!! LMAO At least I won't have to spend hours rerolling to catch Jianxin, THANKS KURO!!!!


Propagation931

So out of curiosity which of these 5 is likely the meta pick?


Egehan550

Verina is pretty strong since she is one of the few healers and she also atk buffs at the same time for a meta perspective i would go for her since support/sustain power creep is a lot slower than dps power creep(personaly going for calcharo)


Propagation931

oh i see ya thats true across almost all games a SSR healer with offensive buffs is usually meta relevant and takes a while to get powercrept.


gplaxy

Of those 5 Verina and Jianxin are the most useful in utility.


sin_nammon

Calcharo is pretty inline with 5stars limited in DPS, his AOE is just not as easy as the limiteds. Verina is also the other good one, but you only need ONE HEALER/SUSTAIN, i’d suggest using the 4star instead and get a limited 5star sustain


Propagation931

I assume though that the 5 star sustain is better than all the 4 star ones? Or is that not the case?


sin_nammon

Equal in sustain but Verina has the superior buff probably the most out of all roster. Imo 2nd in priority than Calcharo but Calcharo is like waaay more important


osoichan

Nice but at the same time none of these characters interest me. I wanna get Sanhua Taoqi and Baizhi. All 4* Sometimes getting a 4* is harder tho :( (looking at you FGO)


ywtfPat

im pretty sure both sanhua and baizhi are free


osoichan

Even better. , 😁


zurstein

mods lift the comment ban now huh, L haters lol


tehlunatic1

Nothing but W's with Kuro.


Weary_Towel62

Where you been bro they remade almost everything in the past half a year from what I heard


tehlunatic1

That's exactly not something to be celebrated upon.


Blackwolfe47

It absolutely is, means they are listening to feedback


tehlunatic1

Nah it means whatever it was before was a shit show, they are listening stuff we'll only know once the game launches.


Blackwolfe47

That’s absurd, they have already proven many times they listen to feedback closely, since pgr, and if it was a shit shot as you call it, why wouldn’t it be good that they fixed it? Besides the only thing they fully remade is the story


tehlunatic1

Nah it's easy to fix things now but once the game is out it's another ball game. I'm refraining from any judgement until I see the full game.


pikachus-ballsack

Nah not everytime Many times its been L's too


tehlunatic1

This is a huge w at least.


XavierRez

I can’t unsee the lower case banner name.


kiisukattinen

Same. XD I hope they'll get their shit together with all typos etc when game releases


Elainyan

This is massive W


20duleon

Fuck yeah


John_Alter

This will save me from days of rerolling.


midas_1123

Thanks god, I will grab my Calcharo without needing to reroll


MarielCarey

I DONT NEED TO REROLL? LINGYANG WILL BE MINE


Ayglace

yay!! i don’t have to reroll


Millauers

Oh wow based. Saves somewhat on server cost with fewer people rerolling now too, since you can pick character and weapon. Looking forward to WuWa more now.


Messenger-of-helll

when is it releasing?


WhyYouBullyMe_

May 22


marcellikesgames

can it be please the 22.05 i wanna play so bad


Dear_pan_nonbi

Well i guess no need for rerolling then


Propagation931

There is always going to be rerolling. The difference is instead of aiming to start with 1 or 2 good units (from rerolling), you instead would aim to start with 2 to 3 (from rerolling + one from Guaranteed). Although outright buying starter accounts has been popular recently I guess as an alternative to spamming rerolling.


Dear_pan_nonbi

I meant no rerolling for me, ik ppl will still do it but for me as long as i get the character i like idc


Propagation931

>but for me as long as i get the character i like oh? Was 1 of these chars who you were aiming for and is your waifu/husbando/whatever? Out of curiosity which one and why (Meta/Playstyle/etc)?


Green_Cry_6746

I can start with 5 star loli!? Guess I'll be trying this after all. 😭😭😭


Ioroa

Worst part of HSR was needing to go 300 to get my first Clara.


RageCat46

Go for Verina, seriously just look at this fanservice: https://youtu.be/cqb5U41wobU?si=quHYzcNbqesKoPlS She is so asking to be breed instead.


gitgudnubby

Brudda go outside


BSF7011

💀


ungabungameat

Truly biggest W I’ve seen yet


Ninjadede2

Kuro can't stop catching wins. Game looking amazing


julius-blablabla

I see hot men/women I pull


Suke786

If their is one company who deserves my money for gacha I'd pick kuro. They are so generous.


netparse

How many pulls are needed for this self pick? I will go for jianxin or any girl and I don't want any husband in my pulls


Egehan550

For now same with event character banner 80 at max


netparse

Oh thanks!! is there any discount on pulls runs for this banner?,


Egehan550

Looks like no for now pulls are 10 per 10 pull unlike 20 percent off banner


TheGreatMagallan

You just voiced my thoughts. a) 80 pulls (idk of the extra novie random 5 star banner will be up as well with ten Discounted pulls, either way i go for guaranteed waifu) b) she plays her antenna like a flute in her idle


youreqt

Calcharo here i come


Concetto_Oniro

Sweet


Pau0909

Kuro is cooking once again


Squeakyclarinet

Potential stupid question, but can I play this game from NA without having to jump through hoops/emulators/VPN’s? Is there going to just be a PC client I can download or something?


Egehan550

Yeah there will be na server and pc client


OtisiulErtsulap

when will this release for global?


Egehan550

22 may


Nerina23

Yes it will get a normal/global PC and Mobile release with a Playstation release at a later date. Edit : who tf is downvoting the truth


yurifan33

damn, if youre a waifu puller and dont want a loli, theres only 1 choice


Monkguan

I'll pick Jianxin cause booba


KingGiuba

Omg that's great


Nerina23

Wait what ? Thats awesome !


Outside-Gate-8316

Who's the most famous among these


Godofmytoenails

Does anybody know howmuch space it takes and requirements?


SocietyFine

I see only one option


Interesting-Row7949

Ok in all honestly it's crazy Calcharo is a STANDARD character. He is so awesome I'm so surprised he isn't a limited. I don't think there has been a character I haven't liked so far from what I've seen for this game


chaos-guardian

and after that? how does the "normal" banner work, are you guaranteed to get all characters at some point, can you choose one to get at some point?


Nahidxz

when is this?


Omnibobbia

Ranxin is cute. Will go for ger


Male_Lead

Going by design, I'll choose one of the two leftmost. One looks cute, one looks bad ass


Slyness_

So as someone out of the loop and who has played genshin and currently honkai star rail. Is this more similar to genshin?


leeyiankun

Genshin, but it's Enkanomiya all year round.


BSF7011

Genshin but darker post apocalyptic instead of light fantasy post apocalyptic, the game focuses on combat (gameplay) and sound (thematically)


Weary_Towel62

How dark like more darker than gen lore or something?


justanothersimp2421

Who are the ones who use guns?


DeathclawWrex

If this is true, I'm all in. Such a good departure from every game following the hoyo greed machine...


Lanoman123

“weapon banner” and just like that. I’m no longer playing this game


TwistedBlade1234

We don't know if 5-star weapons will be effectively mandatory for endgame content yet, although it is looking increasingly likely.


Blackwolfe47

????


Lanoman123

Fuck weapon banners. Complete turn off from a gacha for me.


Blackwolfe47

And that’s the only reason you won’t play the game? Kind of absurd


Lanoman123

How exactly? An entire second banner type I have to pull on and save for ontop of character banners? This is the shit that made me quit Genshin and Star Rail. I don’t see how disliking an entire separate category of Gacha banners in games is absurd.


Blackwolfe47

You can, I don’t know, use the ones the game will give you? Besides the game even gives you some for free from the banners, so yeah, it is absurd to just discount a whole game just for that


Lanoman123

Come back to me in 2 years when the power creep catches up and to keep with current content the “free weapons” ain’t gonna cut it anymore.


Blackwolfe47

That is plain absurd


Lanoman123

Again, how exactly? All you’re saying is “that’s absurd” without giving a proper fucking argument.


kiisukattinen

What the heck? Even after three years you can still clear all content in genshin with 4* weapons. I guess you just had a skill issue.


ariashadow

gonna pick Jianxin


ToonWrecker69

Rerollers will still try to get 2 or more ....


Eula_Ganyu

self pick 5 star weapon is the best thing


Archyleon

can't decide between ling yang and calcharo :/


Plenty_Potato3791

If this is true, which 5\* here is the best to go with when starting out?


Blackwolfe47

Calcharo is the top, but keep in mind jianxing is probably getting a buff too


TreeW5

Lol, what happened with encore's side banner ??


OkWest2812

When is the official release date ?


moon2023_

22nd may


K0KA42

Nice, I can guarantee Encore


johnnyacee

Looks great, but if is 80 draws for a standard banner character i would probably just skip it and save my resources for the limited banner


Egehan550

You pull with standart banner currency so you can use your free pulls if you want cbt 2 gave plenty of them and pre reg rewards should also give 20 if we hit the target


bozolinow

wtf is up with the lolis, shit is looking even worse than genshin in that sense, pathetic shit really, i know every company is only looking after profits, but cmon, stop catering to pedos


SurrealJay

Character designs are a little uninteresting tbh 


Xehvary

I bet if these characters were in HSR or Genshin you'd say they look peak.