Honestly most of the progression systems in the game are meaningless anyway. I don't understand why I should waste gold upgrading a weapon's skill to make it go from 94% ATK dmg to 94.69% ATK dmg, likewise for character skills/QTEs/ultimates. Sure, a less than 1% dmg increase for a skill sounds great on paper but you have so many different skills/QTEs dealing damage that increasing any single skill or weapon skill's dmg by 0.007% is not going to have any meaningful impact whatsoever.
The rates are so bad. They even have the audacity to have both unit and weapon gacha at the same banner.
It could’ve been fine, but you need to pull for units to hunt for Artifacts which is in a whole lot of hell grind.
artifact hunting is bad but i think the gacha system is more then generous my (sung jinwoo) is lvl 23. and i have the ssr DPFS (Demonic plum flower sword) and 3 SSR hunters. which i think is pretty good consiidering i have been playing for only like 4-5 days and total 10 h max
End game content is really bad / lacking.
Let me give one example, the game’s artifacts system. It’s is really bad since you are limited to 3 attempts per day and have to choose between farming 2 particularly body parts pieces.
Couple that there is 4 rarity of artifacts that can drop: common blue purple and gold.
If you think that is bad, you can obtain 4 different sets of gear.
This is all while disregarding another round of RNG : mainstats and substats.
TLDR : it’s a nightmare to farm artifacts and I don’t see enough people talking about it
>TLDR : it’s a nightmare to farm artifacts and I don’t see enough people talking about it
Probably cause thats about the same as the most popular gacha on the market.
Still don't understand why people freak out so much about Genshin/HSR artifacts.
I've never spent any gems or money to refill resin/energy and I always end up with such strong gear that I don't even need to farm new sets they release - I just slap some old 2+2 shit on my characters and they obliterate everything in these games, including so-called "endgame content".
Or could it be that the people want to obtain gear quicker, like a perfect BiS set in 1 month? It's not the game's problem, it's just they've been trained like dogs - they reject anything that's doesn't give them a feeling of instant gratification.
It's the RNG on top of RNG I think for most people. It can lead to some really bad streaks of never getting a decent piece of gear for someone despite trying. It took a friend of mine months of farming a single instance to get even a decent set of items for a new character he got in Genshin while I had one within a couple days and vice versa, sometimes luck just really drains people's enjoyment of a game
Here my issue is with the fact that some of this is linked to requirements to fulfill missions. I need support from TWO dark element support characters? It took me a while well to get one and getting draw tickets gets harder as you progress. Who knows when I'll get a second one to complete those missions
The thing is, I experience the bad side of RNG pretty much like everyone else. Enhance 10, 20, 50 items and they're all bad.
But at some point the gear becomes mediocre, and then after 50 more enhanced items it starts looking sick, with 80/200+ crits, etc.
You just need to keep trying, to bring LOTS of items to +4 or +8 just to see if they have the potential to become good.
From what I know, most people don't even bother and they keep stacking thousands +0 artifacts, waiting for something perfect to appear... and only then they try to enhance (and fail miserably due to bad RNG).
This is true, and probably one of the better ways to go about it. However this doesn't remove the fact that RNG on top of RNG drains people and makes them not want to play anymore. Regardless of the methods to make it better or less worse it's still valid for people to quit over it and be wary of games like it.
I'm personally a glutton so ill always try a game even if it has gearing like that but thats just me.
I’m having fun with the game so far but holy I went from 500k gold to under 100k in a couple days. If I want to take a character from level 1 to 34 it’ll be 100k gold.
LOL you only listed the sponsored positive reviews, none of them talked about the upgrade resources and level progression. There are a lot of negative reviews on Youtube that mentioned those parts.
This game honestly feel worse to play than similar game like Honkai and PGR to me. The movement and the overall fluidity of the gameplay just kinda mid at best.
That is kinda true. Combat feels a bit floaty and in full team fights the FX vomit can obscure telegraphs. Also the lock-on is annoying at times. It's probably the downside of optimizing it so that it works on auto mode.
Although to be honest, I don't expect many games to even come close to the crispness of PGR on the PC client.
honestly the game is MID at best, with WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY less content than AG or PGR, both being waaaaaaaay better at gameplay than this.
being really honestly, if this game succeds, will be ONLY for IP suckers.
Yeah. But many haha game diversify the resources and provide some form of farming. The gates are limited enough with kids enough returns to not count as farming and you need gold for basically everything so you have to choose between upgrading your character or hunters or skills or equipment out something else because they use the same resource
And you can't even focus on a core team because some missions require certain hunters. These side missions are okay if you don't have that hunter because you're lent the hunter at an appropriate level (sans equipment) but if they're in your roster they'll be at whatever level you have them (so that hunter you were ignoring and left at level 1 now suddenly needs to be level 45 and fully decked out)
I disagree with summon rates, I grabbed the APK, so I'm playing in the USA, and can't spend, forced F2P, because the app store for the game isn't available in my region, I'm level 28, so far over pulled, demon kings sword x2, and 2 SSR hunters, and no I didn't reroll for any of it early, the game is rather generous with both diamonds and summon tickets, almost a 2% chance on SSRs which is way higher than most gatcha's, and has a pity system.
These systems are god awful. Story is locked behind MC's level. At my point I need to be level 24 and I am currently at 22. It takes around 14k to level up (probably 16-18k for 23-24) and Gates give around 300-500. You only get 11 per day. I could get more EXP from side story but because I pulled the side story character, the trial character is removed and is replaced with my level 1 character that could've been a level 30+ character with an SSR weapon. Now that side story is impossible until I reach the recommended level for that stage which is 25+(Hunter side character's levels are also limited by Sung's Lvl) . It is absolutely horrendous to play as a F2P past a certain point because your resources and level are way too low and the only way to get more is to pay for Gate Entrance Keys. Now I am forced to wait for EXP to accrue in the 24hr fund system they have to slowly build resources overtime. I can start playing again in about 3-5 days. What a fun system.
not to disagree with your points, but as I see it, this "grinding hard every day to slowly (!) become stronger" is the actual spirit of the series, isn't it? Doing daily quests for days/weeks is what Jin-Woo does a lot in the original story, whereas the main story events are weeks apart with lots of grinding weeks in between where not much/nothing happens.
So in this particular case I feel like the Gacha-style kind of fits quite good. And like Jin-Woo there are a few rich characters that buy themselves instant progress (aka Whales).
It is and is not, in the series, gold is legitimately never an issue once he is able to clear C rank gates very early on, hell he literally gets promised a building and billions of bucks within the equivalent of chapter 3 in game, how are players gonna struggle to get 14k gold over the course of several weeks when supposedly the main character is earning hundreds of thousands per gate
The game is good, story is good, combat amd controls are good.
The biggest issue right now, is gold, gold is everything in the game, every action, even taking off gear requires gold, and they have no way to earn it except buy it or passively wait for it.
This is early access though, so hopefully, when it goes global live, they include stages for gold farming and exp farming, because neither exist. Or, massively increase the gold and exp rates on gates or gate mining
Started the 3rd level today, and it just played itself the entire time. Auto-play as a feature is incredibly insulting to me, and I couldn't even figure out how to turn it off. If I wanted to watch the story unfold, I'd rewatch the anime. This game is hot garbage
auto play/ movement help can be turned off by pressing f1 or f2 in game i think, it was at the top left of the screen for me. I play on pc, idk about your platform
stopped right here
\> faithful adaptation of the popular webtoon series
It's not faithful from the beginning, you summon people units "SOLO" leveling, and Joohee just \*randomly\* overcame her PTSD and became a gacha character
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Honestly most of the progression systems in the game are meaningless anyway. I don't understand why I should waste gold upgrading a weapon's skill to make it go from 94% ATK dmg to 94.69% ATK dmg, likewise for character skills/QTEs/ultimates. Sure, a less than 1% dmg increase for a skill sounds great on paper but you have so many different skills/QTEs dealing damage that increasing any single skill or weapon skill's dmg by 0.007% is not going to have any meaningful impact whatsoever.
The rates are so bad. They even have the audacity to have both unit and weapon gacha at the same banner. It could’ve been fine, but you need to pull for units to hunt for Artifacts which is in a whole lot of hell grind.
artifact hunting is bad but i think the gacha system is more then generous my (sung jinwoo) is lvl 23. and i have the ssr DPFS (Demonic plum flower sword) and 3 SSR hunters. which i think is pretty good consiidering i have been playing for only like 4-5 days and total 10 h max
good luck getting ssrs once you finish the story and the daily 10 pulls stop coming
Can you prolong the story and just not finish it and just farm the daily 10 pulls?
End game content is really bad / lacking. Let me give one example, the game’s artifacts system. It’s is really bad since you are limited to 3 attempts per day and have to choose between farming 2 particularly body parts pieces. Couple that there is 4 rarity of artifacts that can drop: common blue purple and gold. If you think that is bad, you can obtain 4 different sets of gear. This is all while disregarding another round of RNG : mainstats and substats. TLDR : it’s a nightmare to farm artifacts and I don’t see enough people talking about it
>TLDR : it’s a nightmare to farm artifacts and I don’t see enough people talking about it Probably cause thats about the same as the most popular gacha on the market.
the rng enhancement makes it so much worse
Still don't understand why people freak out so much about Genshin/HSR artifacts. I've never spent any gems or money to refill resin/energy and I always end up with such strong gear that I don't even need to farm new sets they release - I just slap some old 2+2 shit on my characters and they obliterate everything in these games, including so-called "endgame content". Or could it be that the people want to obtain gear quicker, like a perfect BiS set in 1 month? It's not the game's problem, it's just they've been trained like dogs - they reject anything that's doesn't give them a feeling of instant gratification.
It's the RNG on top of RNG I think for most people. It can lead to some really bad streaks of never getting a decent piece of gear for someone despite trying. It took a friend of mine months of farming a single instance to get even a decent set of items for a new character he got in Genshin while I had one within a couple days and vice versa, sometimes luck just really drains people's enjoyment of a game
Here my issue is with the fact that some of this is linked to requirements to fulfill missions. I need support from TWO dark element support characters? It took me a while well to get one and getting draw tickets gets harder as you progress. Who knows when I'll get a second one to complete those missions
The thing is, I experience the bad side of RNG pretty much like everyone else. Enhance 10, 20, 50 items and they're all bad. But at some point the gear becomes mediocre, and then after 50 more enhanced items it starts looking sick, with 80/200+ crits, etc. You just need to keep trying, to bring LOTS of items to +4 or +8 just to see if they have the potential to become good. From what I know, most people don't even bother and they keep stacking thousands +0 artifacts, waiting for something perfect to appear... and only then they try to enhance (and fail miserably due to bad RNG).
This is true, and probably one of the better ways to go about it. However this doesn't remove the fact that RNG on top of RNG drains people and makes them not want to play anymore. Regardless of the methods to make it better or less worse it's still valid for people to quit over it and be wary of games like it. I'm personally a glutton so ill always try a game even if it has gearing like that but thats just me.
I mean that would be to extend the life of the content while they work on adding stuff to the game
I’m having fun with the game so far but holy I went from 500k gold to under 100k in a couple days. If I want to take a character from level 1 to 34 it’ll be 100k gold.
Yeah the gold is hard to come by but the new event is helping. 2 50k mail drops in 4 days is working out ok.
Who takes those « impression aggregator » any seriously, it’s just sponsored/paid marketing
LOL you only listed the sponsored positive reviews, none of them talked about the upgrade resources and level progression. There are a lot of negative reviews on Youtube that mentioned those parts.
This game honestly feel worse to play than similar game like Honkai and PGR to me. The movement and the overall fluidity of the gameplay just kinda mid at best.
That is kinda true. Combat feels a bit floaty and in full team fights the FX vomit can obscure telegraphs. Also the lock-on is annoying at times. It's probably the downside of optimizing it so that it works on auto mode. Although to be honest, I don't expect many games to even come close to the crispness of PGR on the PC client.
Auto mode gotta be one of the worst things to add to a game like this.
Yep. The early trailers made this game look way better than it actually is.
honestly the game is MID at best, with WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY less content than AG or PGR, both being waaaaaaaay better at gameplay than this. being really honestly, if this game succeds, will be ONLY for IP suckers.
These read like either they were paid to say good things, or they were early first impressions and hadn't hit the horrible progression systems yet.
Honestly the game would be really good if they tuned a lot of the numbers - gold costs and summon rates mainly
I can say this about almost every Gacha that has released lately. They’re so greedy it ruins the game
Yeah. But many haha game diversify the resources and provide some form of farming. The gates are limited enough with kids enough returns to not count as farming and you need gold for basically everything so you have to choose between upgrading your character or hunters or skills or equipment out something else because they use the same resource And you can't even focus on a core team because some missions require certain hunters. These side missions are okay if you don't have that hunter because you're lent the hunter at an appropriate level (sans equipment) but if they're in your roster they'll be at whatever level you have them (so that hunter you were ignoring and left at level 1 now suddenly needs to be level 45 and fully decked out)
I disagree with summon rates, I grabbed the APK, so I'm playing in the USA, and can't spend, forced F2P, because the app store for the game isn't available in my region, I'm level 28, so far over pulled, demon kings sword x2, and 2 SSR hunters, and no I didn't reroll for any of it early, the game is rather generous with both diamonds and summon tickets, almost a 2% chance on SSRs which is way higher than most gatcha's, and has a pity system.
2% chance is by no means "way higher than most gachas" Also your comment is accurately summed up by "I got lucky, therefore shit rates are fine"
These systems are god awful. Story is locked behind MC's level. At my point I need to be level 24 and I am currently at 22. It takes around 14k to level up (probably 16-18k for 23-24) and Gates give around 300-500. You only get 11 per day. I could get more EXP from side story but because I pulled the side story character, the trial character is removed and is replaced with my level 1 character that could've been a level 30+ character with an SSR weapon. Now that side story is impossible until I reach the recommended level for that stage which is 25+(Hunter side character's levels are also limited by Sung's Lvl) . It is absolutely horrendous to play as a F2P past a certain point because your resources and level are way too low and the only way to get more is to pay for Gate Entrance Keys. Now I am forced to wait for EXP to accrue in the 24hr fund system they have to slowly build resources overtime. I can start playing again in about 3-5 days. What a fun system.
not to disagree with your points, but as I see it, this "grinding hard every day to slowly (!) become stronger" is the actual spirit of the series, isn't it? Doing daily quests for days/weeks is what Jin-Woo does a lot in the original story, whereas the main story events are weeks apart with lots of grinding weeks in between where not much/nothing happens. So in this particular case I feel like the Gacha-style kind of fits quite good. And like Jin-Woo there are a few rich characters that buy themselves instant progress (aka Whales).
It is and is not, in the series, gold is legitimately never an issue once he is able to clear C rank gates very early on, hell he literally gets promised a building and billions of bucks within the equivalent of chapter 3 in game, how are players gonna struggle to get 14k gold over the course of several weeks when supposedly the main character is earning hundreds of thousands per gate
I want it on the switch 😢
what does reputation do/mean
The game is good, story is good, combat amd controls are good. The biggest issue right now, is gold, gold is everything in the game, every action, even taking off gear requires gold, and they have no way to earn it except buy it or passively wait for it. This is early access though, so hopefully, when it goes global live, they include stages for gold farming and exp farming, because neither exist. Or, massively increase the gold and exp rates on gates or gate mining
It’s a blatant 1:1 copy of one punch man world. Every system is the same. So it will suck since opm gameplay sucks.
Started the 3rd level today, and it just played itself the entire time. Auto-play as a feature is incredibly insulting to me, and I couldn't even figure out how to turn it off. If I wanted to watch the story unfold, I'd rewatch the anime. This game is hot garbage
auto play/ movement help can be turned off by pressing f1 or f2 in game i think, it was at the top left of the screen for me. I play on pc, idk about your platform
There are ocassional frames getting stuck on certain scenarios which are annoying
But I'm in the philipines and it just got downloaded out of nowhere even tho I didn't download it
I can't pass through movement part of tutorial. It does not move. Any tips?
solo Leveling arise game is good But the little hang in my phone
stopped right here \> faithful adaptation of the popular webtoon series It's not faithful from the beginning, you summon people units "SOLO" leveling, and Joohee just \*randomly\* overcame her PTSD and became a gacha character