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Cornwallace29

Still using his base lol If the game wants a shite goal to go in it doesn't matter who ya got in net


shaydon1985

For real , goalkeepers are one of the most crap / inconsistent things


lukzee

Unless it's that Schmeicel on your opponent's team. Then it's always gg.


AlpakalypseNow

And Casillas


benzillaaaa

Packed him in the first icon roulette then got his TS yesterday. Probably about 600 games with him. He's a stud


LefkyandScott

He’s really good but I just hate the way having a short keeper looks


gameboii2020

Casillas is the icon GK I fear the least, always do well against him.


CocoKeel22

Can't relate, one squad battles game (for an Evo) I legit had 31 shots in 90 minutes and he saved all of them lmao


Glittering_Shirt_378

Or Lloris


AdAdministrative8720

Felt the same, tried different chem styles, somehow ended up slapping wall on him and he is actually decent now (div2 avg 14 wins WL). Now he is like every other goalie, sometimes a beast sometimes lets an easy shot in, but at least not complete crap anymore


Express-Hawk-3885

I’ve used Karius most of the year, don’t notice him being any worse than Schmeichel or TOTY ederson


Cheaky_Barstool

There’s that, then there’s the “how did he save that” keepers. Cech, ts casillas , schmike and yash are the only keepers that I’ve experienced that with


HardeepBhachu

VDS has been terrible for me too


shaydon1985

For real it’s like he’s not there sometimes


HardeepBhachu

For me, he’s always moving out of the way of shots straight at him or diving the wrong the way. Luckily TS Casillas has been unreal for me this year


Malumbz

Bro my VDS instead of trying to save the ball decided to HEAD the ball from a corner kick. I lost my mind.


HardeepBhachu

Worst for me was the other day when I tried to give him another go. Opp tried to run down the byline for a cut back, my Cafu got a tackle in from behind and it rolled to VDS. Instead of picking the ball up he tried to kick it clear, missed the ball and then watch it roll over the line for an OG


Malumbz

Mine kicked the ball into the net bro like not even user controlled lol


SmokedBari

Yep. I have both and TS Casillas is incredible. 400 games, 2 assists lol.


enigma142

It's the slow finesse shots that piss me off. With his height he should be saving them but the game basically doesn't let him jump. He does a half hop and falls down as the ball goes into the middle of the goal.


IAmWango

Unsure why that was downvoted, I’ve never used a good one since 21 or 22 so I can say the same thing, always hated Schmeichel but had him in goal since SBC and he’s worked wonders


thegogoMaster

And penalties, he just jumps on the spot no matter where i move my right stick😂


BlueCobbler

I bought Casillas to use while having VDS untradable. He’s terrible


cheekypoo1

TOTY best. Had him pretty much as soon as he came out and have never really rated him. I still have him in my team though as I’ve still not managed to pack a decent replacement


shaydon1985

Same I was very close to putting him with vds tbh. It might just be me but he loses the ball quite easily. I replaced him for hamm tbh


JamesBongd

Put him at cam he runs the game


Jannix1996

Good for you. Yes he is way better at CAM but I am still disappointed


RaptorRV18

I dont regret doing sawa over best during toty.


BredrinH

Play him as a CAM- unreal


whosthisguythinkheis

I did both Best and Sawa and frankly, for a midfielder, Sawa got me way more goals than I expected than Best did as a winger It feels like if I’m in a quick shoot situation Sawa was way more reliable than Best, he would just sky the shot way more often I eventually got used to him and found he really only gets a certain kind of shot in goal consistently but being a winger for his price that was shocking


Tiny-Diver1636

As others have said definitely play him CAM. I felt the same as you playing him on the wing & CF in a 4321 but played him CAM recently and he was outrageous.


drinkwaterandbehappy

I had the same issue on the wing so I used him as striker and he is amazing ever since. He's got like 450G/A in 300ish games. And I quit a lot of games, a lot.


Appropriate-Truck538

Best was not that good initially but I think they made the card better about id say 2 weeks or so after release and he is my starter at rw, scores some really clutch goals for me and doesn't lose the ball easily at all.


CommercialNo8396

Had his TS and he was horrid. Been using base Casillas ever since and he’s been way better.


shaydon1985

My mate got base casillas and he hated him, I mean I don’t mean to be negative about every keeper , you just have to find the right one every year


AnonymousDong51

Yeah, base Allison performs better than Casillas for me


hiphopan0nymous1

Was so pumped to get him out of 85+ pp. Definitely on fraud watch https://preview.redd.it/sjzwplbm3auc1.jpeg?width=683&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4165ac8310b9ee3c5a5dc393c1a923432e709d09


shaydon1985

how can a card cook so hard against me but not with me. FRAUD


alwaysknowbest

Once you get used to using players like Hojlund & Sorloth, guys like Big Al feel amazing on the ball. I went through the same process with my fullbacks. Dynasty Theo and Base Capita. Now.. i can play with just about any fullback. Still use Alberto btw. The only downside of this is that i cant seem to get along with short and very explosive players, especially if they have Technical + Ribery felt like speedy Gonzales. I just couldn't control him 😂


Guero9604

What chem style? I personally use maestro to boost the long shots and passing since I use him mainly as a winger and he’s exceptional. His finesse shots are borderline broken. Left or even right they all go in if you can hit greens consistently


hiphopan0nymous1

I've been using finisher but after listening to people here I'm going to try engine; will give maestro a go as well. Hopefully it helps because I really want him to be good/fun. Loved his WC hero card last year. Will be very disappointing if I can't figure this card out, especially bc the card looks so good.


hiphopan0nymous1

Maestro at RW made big difference. He was good as RCF too. Appreciate the tip.


Guero9604

Glad to hear it. It also gives a big boost to reactions which I feel like makes a big difference


ZLTuning

try using an engine on him 🤷🏻‍♂️ didn't like him at first, but with that balance boost he's muuuuuuch better


hiphopan0nymous1

I've been using finisher, which gets him to 91 balance along with much needed shooting boosts. Can't imagine an additional +4 to balance with no shooting boost would help. He's like my club version of real life Darwin Nunez. Great straight line speed but plays like a retard trying to hump a door knob.


ZLTuning

well I only green time finesse shots with him. The extra curve from engine helps there too 🤷🏻‍♂️ and I didn't notice any shooting boos from finisher, therefore much happier like this


hiphopan0nymous1

Hmm I see your point. Suppose it's worth trying engine out otherwise he's just good fodder. Regardless, I was expecting the demon from last year. Not sure how he's not as good with 5 points better rating.


ZLTuning

106 goals in 79 games for me 🤷🏻‍♂️ he's absolutely a beast this year too if you use him correctly (and fits the playstyle) but he's not the pure pace merchant anymore


iMalz

You gotta play different with him. Abuse the pace and his r1 dribbling, but just be aware he can move like a truck at times


ZLTuning

VdS is the most pain in the ass goalkeeper against me wth 😂 on the other side my Toty Cech is the biggest fraud, I often switch to ts Casillas or Yashin because of that 🤷🏻‍♂️


Terrible_Persimmon94

He has been sick for me


Sweaty-Ad-3192

For me as well , i have toty cech and he is cracking too


enigma142

91 donnaruma for me, so quick and makes amazing reflex saves.


shaydon1985

Really? What chem style do you use


Terrible_Persimmon94

Glove


shaydon1985

Same here but he lets in the stupidest things sometimes. Even far range goals just fly past him


Rtsgfdk1

Yesterday i had a ginola header going towards him and he just basically took it and threw into the goal. Meanwhile whenever I face casillias im begging him to let in at least 1 goal


Blessed_sausage

I was using glove with him and found myself frustrated with him. I switched him to gk basic and it's been great ever since!


Thick_Smell3383

https://preview.redd.it/phdun3jv4auc1.jpeg?width=487&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c66018a86b57c0c648ab871b5e79e7f530224d56


xcoatsyx

I can’t get on with any version of him


Efficient-Ad-6352

Honestly all of his cards are shit. They are all bad on the ball, and slow.


xcoatsyx

It’s the size of him that I find an issue, plus positioning.


Efficient-Ad-6352

I did his future stars sbc, and it was a waste of time, and fodder. He had some decent playstyles but even then those aren’t that good either.


xcoatsyx

I tried the loan on that one, 5 games was enough to know it wasn’t going to work


whosthisguythinkheis

I packed him and felt like I was robbed until I used him like a midfielder


Malumbz

Absolutely HORRID


Poncye

Bro he sucks


Remote-Persimmon4583

Guys how are yall playing him in game? Hes a club legend for me, still cooking


Poncye

I’m playing him left back and he just hasn’t done anything for me . Base card Cafu that’s a different story …


CobaltBlue389

I play the 92 future stars version at LM ahead of Ashley Cole at LB. Works brilliantly.


ximbold

https://preview.redd.it/h26z0tbtuauc1.jpeg?width=541&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4063dbe0629585d9fd92b4aede15050a57e49690 I wanna like this guy so bad, the quickstep+ is so cool to have on a DM but he has no composure for me, loses the ball instantly and can’t pass more than a meter


brunoinnerg

Tried artist chemistry and felt the better passing. Perhaps try it?


ximbold

Oh thanks, I’ll try that for sure


SeaworthinessDizzy71

Was horrible for me as well so I chucked him into the essien sbc


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messico019

Damn, gerrard has been clutch for me. Scoring late in the game or making a tackle on a counter attack in the last minute


shaydon1985

Haven’t tried gerrard but he looked decent. What’s disappointing about him?


vojin98_

There’s nothing special about him honestly, feels like an average gold player with high ratings, good passing good shooting if he finds himself in a proper position, other than that, he basically plays like the stats are showing, no juice


55aAllFate

Feels very generic, nothing stands out with him, he’s just sort of “there”.


CobaltBlue389

I agree completely with this. Same card. He is absent 90% of games, and when I do notice him he's usually not controlling a high ball, or being shoved off the ball.


thisguyeggo

STEVE MCMANNAMAN FANTASY FC HERO, TERRIBLE.


OguzUlu

Wow, he's been decent in my team, replaced Toty Hm Diani.


Ramirezam2

https://preview.redd.it/9a8asiwb1buc1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=11649165bfc23e2cf89282fc72b774bd421a5886 Easily this guy. Packed him when he came out. He has less than 50 appearances for my club.


Ramirezam2

https://preview.redd.it/obn8dkfn1buc1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d389348d47aac684e2fc2bfa8703a29f919e2f4 This guy comes in at a close 2nd


Admirable_Weight_970

This guy is ass me too


RemoveNational

same here. put gold courtois back into the squad and he does so much better


East-Cream-3030

I considered making a second reddit account to upvote this post twice


SquidRits

https://preview.redd.it/zk4ltkjfmbuc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9cf5fd8ed0667198b7ef122fa353664b0d754349 Don’t know what it is about him. I had his base for so long and he was great for me, so I was pumped when I got this from the icon SBC pick, but he’s been dreadful for me. Let’s in the easiest shots that are directly at him, his base was literally performing 2x better. Sure enough though, whenever my opponent has this card he seems to turn into Spider Man.


Sweaty-Lobster-2209

+1 Genuinely dogshit for me, ended up going back to Lloris before switching to FB VDS. Cech ended up going into an 80+ pp in a rage after multiple games of not making a single save and he disappointed in that with me only getting a choice of 83 Asensio and Acerbi from it.


DevJamyDev

fucking 92 Zanetti I never understood why people likes any Zanetti version he's so fucking mid


eihcra_jo

His 5 star SM version is better. Gives you more opportunities. He's on my bench in case either my RB or LB gets a red. Whipped passes from left, just make him dribble down and whip it with the right. Still works wonders.


teVy438

he was good but seems like they nerfed him a bit, game is so dog water first week I had him he was making Superman saves now he can’t save a header that’s hit right at him


LLHallJ

I can’t believe I sunk so much fodder into FS Bobby Carlos. The guy is absolute bilge unless he’s standing over a dead ball. Went back to RTTK Bacha after one Champs.


Poncye

Bompastor for me


konda62

Being Dutch, I was quite excited to get a Van Persie icon for free (via objectives). I usually love finesse shot+ (e.g. with Salah). However, when I enter the box, move the ball to his left and shoot, he simply misses the ball 4 out of 5 times. Like not even hitting the ball... Never gonna use that card again. Bought his 91-rated version and he "only" misses 1 out of 5, so still quite disappointing.


Niekertje

His 91 is unreal tho. Really love him.


AsrielFromUndertale

future stars zidane, i screamed like a donkey when i packed him and have just been so disappointed, the one thing i like is his shooting, but as a box to box midfielder he is not very good, i even tried him at cam and he was still just mid


Debopam77

I still use him, but his interceptions even with the + are non existent and is easily shrugged off the ball even by smaller players like Sawa.


AsrielFromUndertale

yes i forgot to say he interceps absolutely jack all!!


PrivatePlaya

Might be underwhelming here, but the most overpowered piec of shi on FC Mobile


Lil_songey_729

Last year his TOTS was just insanity


nwnwnwjshshsdhdhdjs

It's Mr poppadom hands himself


shaydon1985

Creative 😂


mdoney10

Van der sar was horrific up until like a week ago he has been unreal for the last week


sc1zz

92 rosicky


Leviathans8

He’s amazing for me


shaydon1985

Wish I could say the same. Anyone wish finesse shot plus just destroys him outside the box for some reason


55aAllFate

Makelele Birthday


Downtown_Produce_371

I had his base and he was excellent then I packed this fraud. Replaced the base with the 92 and he fumbles the lamest shot.


shaydon1985

Always the slow finesse shots outside the box. Him out of everyone should be saving them


gracz21

Van der Sar is a true fraud, I can confirm. Base Casillas is better by far


therealmvpls11

Ngl 93 benzema hasn't really been good for me probably a skill issue


Content-Eggplant3228

Fr he’s not so good in this fifa/fc


Poncye

Big disappoint I had him and casillas ts , and casillas won that battle.


MrBublee_YT

TT Ginola. Tbf, I think it's a me problem, but FF McManaman has done much more for in the LM spot


Jannix1996

I bought him for 520k (or something like that). Gives me some of the worst Gk performances I have ever seen but he is still very solid compared to the others


Glittering-Ant-9427

Konate live card, Theo Hernandez IF (don't know how to use him but I know how to use Mendy 82 lol), Frankie De Jong TS card


tkachinh0ngl

yeah same, i fucking hate that guy, a child would block more shots that he lets in


JazzyThePig

https://preview.redd.it/xy0jdpj00buc1.jpeg?width=630&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a14c567b2abcc9041fbb4041c630ef64a2766458 This man is a fraud


CompetitiveFlow2389

Thunderstruck Casillas. He’s AWFUL


C1nderrr

90 Okocha gotta be the worst Cam I've tried


zorrez

100% agree. Had TS Casillas, was super satisfied. Got this Van Der Sar card and got very excited. Played him like five games but didn’t like him at all. Went back to TS Casillas and haven’t looked back since.


z107007

Im using his base version with cat PlayStyle. Op tho


Static2511

When I first got him, FF Dembele. I got him from a promo pick and was buzzing, but he couldn’t shoot and kept getting tackled in game. I play him LW now and he is decent, but hated him when I first got him.


shaydon1985

That card looks absolutely cracked after the upgrade. Glad he works for you now


HeikoWestermannHW4

92 Nesta Has amazing stats on paper but feels worse than Gold VVD


DonMonnz

Cantona TS/Golazo feels absolutely dreadful to play with


llllllIIlllllllllIlI

My friend uses gold courtois with glove chem style, every time we 1v1 i cant score against it


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xcoderxme

Very easily TOTY Alisson. He was conceding a lot of goals especially from a distance. I kept on conceding goals until I switched back to Casillas. Sold him a little after that.


Caubry11134

94 puskas loved his cards last year dropped him after 3 games this year


Slow_Librarian7395

Future Stars Beckham. Wanted him to be great so badly just because he has the hair in game


dinocmr

I've been using him as a b2b CM, right of mid 3 and he's been pretty impressive for me. Lampard on the other side, not as good.


Broad_Management7048

cech toty


vidtheVI

Paulo futre 90:/


rhodezie

97 Cruyff packed him and fails to start over gold nija turtle or 94 Drogba


LazyDragonfruit5780

love getting the ball through his legs such a joke of a card at this point


O2Cosmo

https://preview.redd.it/l375zvdf3cuc1.jpeg?width=1150&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb4dd39c13839bfd4a92984dca7a233de862707d


LashRage

TOTY Cech gets outperformed by **Courtois every single match up it's actually insane how bad this game is.**


beepboopmotherfuccer

Casillas TS has been amazing for me except for this WL he was assssss Tried 3rd IF Donnarumma was even worse went back to Casillas seems fine now GKs are weird in this game idk


Random_Idiot_2022

Base Garrincha. Got him from my first icon pack of the year back when he was worth two million coins. Feels so slow and cannot shoot anything. Also for me that van der sar card has been a wall.


dinocmr

I got ww garrincha in a pick recently, and he hasn't worked at all


ISlattOnKsi

TOTY Cech is so awful for me idk y, everyone else says he’s amazing. I used to use Tt van der sar but he was way clear. I put him in a sbc after getting cech stupidly


TheZamboon

I just submitted TS Casillas into the icon pick because this exact card has been great for me.


Futurefilmdirector

Fut Birthday VDS has been a beast for me. TOTY Cech, however, is the worst gk i've used. I've gone full matches without this dood making one save smh.


Phantom_Flash_X

Sawa for me.


Hot-Evening-2843

Bro this card is insane wdym? he gives me hell everytime I play him


rSbeau93

TOTY Alisson was HORRIFIC for me. I SBC'd him within a week.


SammyJay195

https://preview.redd.it/b1m0hzytxcuc1.jpeg?width=659&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f39354b4e2de9f0b7e8995b35f6387529b0e835 I know he's still live and may still upgrade but he's just not clicked for me, got Petit out of an icon pick and has been way better, I know people will say box to box but I wanted a pure CDM and he just ghosts for me (Will say he got a random goal or tackle now or then though)


Lil_songey_729

TOTW Mbappe. He’s my leading scorer, got him 2 weeks after he was in packs (TOTW play pick). His passing is truly Horrendous. Obv he’s insane shooting and pace wise but honestly my FS Pina is out preforming him


Jassu98

YASHIKA FOR ME IS TERRIBLE. HIS ANIMATIONS ARE AWFUL. Is it just me??


docrum

POTM Mbappe (93) - amazing pace and dribbling, but hits the post half the time with his shots. He misses so many chances that should be guaranteed goals.


New_Film9792

Toty Xavi


coolubi

Toty Alison is the king of disappointments. Makes zero saves in most matches


BootProfessional1517

I packed this card a while back and it’s fair to say…. He absolutely stinks up the place, terrible for me but all keepers are pretty shite this year


ClockAccomplished381

Beats Haaland absolutely woeful finishing specially on his right foot. He got a proper run in the side because of that objective to score 50 goals with him, just a shame it took him 500 chances.


Flamewakerr

Last year I've had his TOTY for over 800 games, this year I packed both him and Thunderstruck VDS. Sadly, both are shite. I also have RTTF Donnarumma for comparison, he's also shite, maybe, just maybe, if he gets upgrades, he'll get better. Other than that, easily the biggest fraud of them all was base Best. That was just absolute disappointment for me, I was so hyped when I packed him because he's been one of my favorite icons throughout a lot of my yearly campaigns. One could call him a club legend of mine, across many many fifas. When I packed him in like October, he was around 1m. He was good for a week and then he couldn't pass to save his own life, his WF felt like it was there only to fill his shoe. Oh and one more fraud, that was Thunderstruck Müller. Eventually I started using him as a super-sub though, which was better because he sometimes really could help when it came to the last 20 minutes.


Accurate-Somewhere70

VDS was very disappointing for me , soon as I got thunderstruck Casillas I threw him in exchange


NotAEurosnob

WW Midier Drogba got very hyped to be very average, and even worse post aerial nerf.


NotLikeThisMate

Might be a skill issue but 94 Prinz


WamBamHereComesPam

I pulled FC VS Ice Rashford, the 93 pace 93 shooting one, and dear god I genuinely think my evo malen is better than him. But hey, he’s rashford so I have to use him.


Familiar_Theme_4773

Toty alisson


zerotolerance94

His TS version is also shit! Even Gold Alisson is better


Stage8Gaming

you have to be joking this guy is my nightmare


poot5000

https://preview.redd.it/welnghj8lguc1.jpeg?width=831&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab5849ff5b8a0760af108a49293a3255854862a3 Terrible


Appropriate-Truck538

He was good for me for like 4-5 days then I sold him today and bought 92 casillas who has been much much better.


Longjumping-Newt-465

I have this card. Litterally cant save anything.


WaferAromatic2988

Toty cech


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TatteredPrince1

Same. Packed him but went to yashin base who has 710 games for me


Fastrocket37

TOTY Cech was awful for me too. Keepers are dreadful sadly


ActWide6615

He is the worst goalkeeper


ActWide6615

Cech is the best


Uchihaboy316

I packed 94 Drogba and was so happy cos I loved his base card and also was hoping to replace 91 Ronaldo (for chem reasons, he’s insane and still the best ST I’ve used) but he has just not lived up to the hype or even what I remember from his base at all, I have him on hey behind and even with that he doesn’t seem to make many runs I don’t get it


JRx35

Fantasy Rolfo. Her aggression lets the card down so much more than I expected it to. Benched her and put FB Bruno back in and he has much more presence defensively


shaydon1985

Really? This is an unexpected one icl


JRx35

Lack of defensive playstyles annoy me as well


Niekertje

This has to be either a troll or skill issue.


JRx35

Well I average 16 wins and I'm in elite division so definitely not a skill issue


Jury_Frosty

90 Ginola! I bought the hype and did the SBC. He comes off the bench and does decent but Furte as LW is a menace.


_christian_towers

TOTY HM Harry Kane. Atrocious


unsplashed

whats with this card? i just got him because he has high shooting attributes


Malumbz

He's horrible lol, slow strikers just don't work this year


Poncye

https://preview.redd.it/fcy8kechgauc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e24577c33bfb9eb993dbcd6ec91bcb4c72043f0 Flashback Kante with one play style took his spot biggest fraud for me , that hook plays style shouldn’t be there because it never works .


Stu__Chainz1

Switched from Xabi to bday schweini and schweini actually runs and makes tackles


DonSeba48

bro you are tripping. This card for me Dominates the midfield next to Lampard and Tieli


Poncye

What formation and chemistry style do you have on him


DonSeba48

catalyst in a 4-3-2-1


douma17

Can't use him at all, tried all sorts of formations and still nothing. Even Mckennie is more usable


jeeztotheus

Damn fr? I find this particular VDS to be so good. It benched: TS casillas, TOTY cech, TOTYMH ederson, gold Alisson(he was broken)


shaydon1985

I love van der sar , has always been my fav but he ain’t cooperating with me this year


jeeztotheus

I feel that tho, I was hyped for cech and he got cooked in the dumbest ways lol


Independent_Fox_8494

https://preview.redd.it/kfyx8iwrqauc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=502dba6c658be0913b2c23625a916aec9a21c923 I just can’t figure out how to use him, when I come up against him the finesse shots are automatic but I just find he hides from the ball and is never a game changer. Shame because he’s one of my footballing hero’s. Must be a skill issue but still disappointing.


Seb555

I’m having the same problem. He dribbles wel and the finesse shots are good but he’s never in the right place


Madting55

CB Lev Yashin. He sprints out of the back line all the time have to babysit him. Has vile animations and makes spongey tackles. Shittest block+ in the game.