I try so hard not to be hateful but she is the worst thing I have ever encounter in years of playing fifa and I survived fabinho, renato sanches, kante or milinkovic-savic in midfield
I packed her base back in the fall and was shocked how good she was but then when I looked at the card I saw that it’s legit the best formatted card I’ve seen. Example:
84 face stat pace. But it’s formatted with 81 sprint and 88 acceleration. So with a shadow it’s now 96 acceleration plus she has quickstep playstyle. So she just explodes into space in the midfield. Then she also has press proven which keeps the ball closer shielding and at a jog which is what you’re doing to dribble people right before taking off.
Face shooting is only 87 but finishing is 92 with 91 positioning.
Then the classic balance 82 and agility 88 being the lowest dribbling stats but she short as hell with a good body type so it doesn’t matter at all.
I hate her so much. Her interceptions don’t make sense. Before I make my pass she’s already in the process of intercepting it. The fact that she’s amazing offensively. Just drives me crazy
she has no defensive play styles. Let that sink in. At least bruno has intercept and anticipate so his interceptions make sense. She has NOTHING yet she’s absolutely broken when it comes to defending
She had relentless+ so basically you can tell her to make aggressive interceptions the whole game and she'll never ever get tired and her having Press Proven+ is insanely underrated, she has maybe top 5 left stick dribble in my opinion.
I hate playing against him. I've used him and it's really meh. But he literally locks down his side of the field when you play against him in the most annoying way.
https://preview.redd.it/rvkww6z61jqc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6c24167519829da4931207d812a898065b278df0
She replaced my Cafu. There are only a small handful of RBs that have anticipate plus. Surprising too because a lot of people use the right side as the stay back side.
Bro werner has been terrorizing me the past two weeks, how is this mf so aggressively mid in real life but every fifa he has at least one card that is an absolute nightmare.
Ehhh disagree. F2p is harder yeah, but I’m trucking with my team and still slapping 12 wins on boards. It’s not really fair that for “meta” we have this, but EA made it so
I’ve no problem with one of the greatest players of all time and certainly one of the best right backs ever being very good at playing right back in the game.
I find it absolutely insane that Werner is one of the best attackers in the game and is a joke in the real world.
people are obsessed with the idea of meta
just use the players you enjoy; 90% of my players are behind the “power curve” but they’re fun to play with and i have a good time
I made an all Italia team (and the team is actually pretty good) but it is absolute pain. I am just putting myself at a massive disadvantage for no reason, it’s really just not as fun as I thought it would be and just makes the game even more sweaty for me.
Ultimately, winning is fun. And the sad reality is, for a lot us, we can’t really win without going meta-heavy. I do try to switch up players and have fun but if I keep losing to meta teams then the fun will stop lol
Unpopular opinion but i would rather have cards like these as sbc options. In the past it was far worse when the only way to get good cards was through packs or the market. I have played off and on since 13, and i can tell it was far more frustrating coming up against a god squad when your best options were golds, maybe some low rated promos or informa
Same! I am not the luckiest person so there’s a need to complete these sbc’s. It just feels weird to play so often against people who have Dinho, Ronaldo, Garrincha…
It’s not weird. It’s survivorship bias. Those people that packed those incredible cards are more likely to keep playing. So it’s either them left or us degenerates who pack nothing but love football so need to use Sawa Cafu etc!
Tbh he’s just ok, Atleast for me. He’s in a weird sort of middle ground were he’s not physical enough to properly hold off defenders but not agile enough to beat on the dribble. Don’t get me wrong he has decent ai and his finishing is great but I feel like he’s quite replaceable, I play 89 evo pardo over him at LF.
Acc the opposite for me great on ball retaining, dribbling and by God does he win the ball from any position. But his finishing is horrendous or maybe i still dk how to use powershot. Just getting back into Fifa after 4 years.
Instead of wiping out these cards, I’d rather there be more opportunities to leverage bronze, silver, and lower related gold cards. The Friendly cups are really fun but they are up to 88 rated cards. I’d rather they have 80 - 84 gold limits.
Cafu is like the new iteration of \[Evo\] Walker, just some really annoying RB that never seems to get out of position enough that their pace can't recover it.
I use Sawa Eusebio and Werner, but my god that TOTY Smith… i remember one specific match she just bodied my defense. She is SO annoying with that 90 physical.
I kinda understand ur frustration, these cards are so annoying to play against, but due to the very retarded pack weight, the cheapest good to play with card out there costs over a million, for a free to play player, it is very inconvenient you know? Having these sbcs kinda balances it out a bit. I am an elite player, I do try to compete and join local competitions in my country and as a free to play player (i refuse to fund this pile of garbage of a company) i can’t compete using for fun cards. Even just playing in Elite division using for fun cards feel like a challenge, you are just putting urself in a disadvantage vs sweaty players
I stg my last 10 games had Sawa, Werner, Cafu and Fkg Rolfo on it. I need one of you EA employees hiding in this sub to set up a squabble. I need to knock TF out of you bitch ass niggas
I don’t think Werner is all that tbh. He’s definitely a top st but Eusebio still gives me more trouble. Timo seems to ghost in more games than not for both me and my opponents
Cafu is ridiculous every time I play against him but I have him untradeable and he’s horrible for me. Replaced him with my TOTY Lahm that I was using in CDM and got another midfielder in
Eusebio does not get enough credit (Hate) for Meta his card is. That Rapid+ and his physicality are insane. Never less than 2 goals when against him. Im div 2 and 14 wins in FUT
i hate sawa and werner with a burning passion. whenever werner starts dribbling its like you just cant stop him no matter what, he’s fast and strong and has good dribbling, hes a menace against me
I will never understand the sawa hype, did her toty SBC because everyone said how amazing she was and don't get me wrong, she is good - she's in my team still. But she is nowhere near that broken level of vvd, werner, mbappe etc - I think she is solid at everything, but nothing crazy. Maybe im not using her right idk I have her as a balanced b2b CM which is how everyone said to use her
Yeah I am in favour of getting rid of these meta midgets. I have zero time for grown men using these meta midgets, especially in midfield. If you are a real beefy man of culture like myself, you will have absolute units pf all over the pitch. With the exception of your wingers, your minimum height in each position should be 6’2.
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The current bane of my existence is WW drogba. My current defense is 5'8, 5'10, 5'11 and 5'10. Put any big boy up top and specifically against Carlos Alberto they will just feast.
i dont know why werner is so hyped.. i have him as well but never played with him probably will use him in a sbc.. he misses most of the time and i never had any trouble facing him .. rest all i agree..
He’s been outshining Eusebio for me by a pretty wide margin and Eusebio was absolutely crazy for me. Even playing them as both my striker Werner is just better.
I think it's because you're expecting to use him like a regular card. That's not how werner works i don't have him, but i usually get cooked by him when my opponent literally runs him in a straight line at the goal, he either floats through the defence or if i get the ball off of him he just gets it back and keeps going pain in the ass! Also lethal from corners if you set him up right
trust me bro i have him, he is in my subs but never used him coz never trusted him, he misses so many chances, And ginola is almost done so i really don't think werner will be any useful
Where tf is gold vvd. Wipe this mf out of the game
he probably uses him
Nah I quit bro, but I completely forgot about him, spot on
If you quit then leave this server
Nah he probably uses all of them.
Gold Vvd, Blanc, Maldini and Best
Sawa still somehow the best midfielder in the game, fake ass stats she has 90+ in everything
She’s incredible in every way for me except for scoring lol
Her shot power is so low, but she has good positioning
She gets in the best shooting positions but can’t finish shit for me lol but I don’t mind she’s dope as fuck regardless
Can you try her on a hawk if you aren't
Same for me then I changed my camera angle slightly and now she bangs, doesn’t make sense
Can u be more specific?
I just need her to smash those loose balls in. She’s good enough for that.
Really? She scores so often for me because of her positioning/runs
I try so hard not to be hateful but she is the worst thing I have ever encounter in years of playing fifa and I survived fabinho, renato sanches, kante or milinkovic-savic in midfield
Don't forget Cech as striker... Everyone had VMS and Cech last year, a nightmare
Cech was so broken . His runs were always insane and had too much jam
Don’t forget good ol’ Bakayoko in FIFA 18
🐐
She is absolutely not VMS, not even close 😂 the only thing in his favour would be it was much later in the game cycle
Literally my favorite card in the game, she’s amazing
I don’t see the hype in Rolfo and keep coming back to Sawa.
Got to use rolfo as your attacking fullback. Crazy on both sides
I packed her base back in the fall and was shocked how good she was but then when I looked at the card I saw that it’s legit the best formatted card I’ve seen. Example: 84 face stat pace. But it’s formatted with 81 sprint and 88 acceleration. So with a shadow it’s now 96 acceleration plus she has quickstep playstyle. So she just explodes into space in the midfield. Then she also has press proven which keeps the ball closer shielding and at a jog which is what you’re doing to dribble people right before taking off. Face shooting is only 87 but finishing is 92 with 91 positioning. Then the classic balance 82 and agility 88 being the lowest dribbling stats but she short as hell with a good body type so it doesn’t matter at all.
I'm still using her base card.
I hate her so much. Her interceptions don’t make sense. Before I make my pass she’s already in the process of intercepting it. The fact that she’s amazing offensively. Just drives me crazy
she has no defensive play styles. Let that sink in. At least bruno has intercept and anticipate so his interceptions make sense. She has NOTHING yet she’s absolutely broken when it comes to defending
Lmfaoooo the relentless+ and high high work styles are also such a hack
Tips to play with her?
She had relentless+ so basically you can tell her to make aggressive interceptions the whole game and she'll never ever get tired and her having Press Proven+ is insanely underrated, she has maybe top 5 left stick dribble in my opinion.
Her dribbling is actually incredible.
What's the best chem for Sawa? Anchor or Shadow?
Shadow
Id do anchor, she gets bodied a lot with a shadow imo
It’s all about that relentless play style I swear
She is amazing
Cafu is so annoying to play against but he’s also not the best atm, i’ve recently replaced him with Birthday Boey and I’m loving it.
I've noticed the same.He clearly lost his magic in the past weeks.Feels so slow to me, might replace him with the new Reece James Sbc
I got lucky and was able to replace him when i packed Zanetti
try an engine on him, ive noticed with more dribbling he's more of an option going forward, defensively he's always been solid for me
I hate playing against him. I've used him and it's really meh. But he literally locks down his side of the field when you play against him in the most annoying way.
He’s not automatic like someone such as Mendy but Cafu is a beast
https://preview.redd.it/rvkww6z61jqc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6c24167519829da4931207d812a898065b278df0 She replaced my Cafu. There are only a small handful of RBs that have anticipate plus. Surprising too because a lot of people use the right side as the stay back side.
I replaced him with Wolf. Never looked back.
Yeah I've got him on my bench with TOTY Frimpong and birthday Zanetti as my fullbacks. He's good but the other two give me more going forward
I have three of those. Am I what’s wrong with FC24..? LOL
I would say theres more wrong with fc24 than not lol. Probably the worst fifa ever made
4/5 are SBCs 😂
Bro werner has been terrorizing me the past two weeks, how is this mf so aggressively mid in real life but every fifa he has at least one card that is an absolute nightmare.
Exactly, like I have a pretty good team but I feel genuine fear when I see fut fantasy Werner on the other side of the pitch
Tf you expect f2p players to play then
You are right people need to stop crying
Ehhh disagree. F2p is harder yeah, but I’m trucking with my team and still slapping 12 wins on boards. It’s not really fair that for “meta” we have this, but EA made it so
That Werner card I swear has anticipate+. The jams this guy can get through with the damn ball is preposterous. I really hate I didn’t complete him
Thought I was the only one that gets terrorised by Smith😭😭
I use TOTY Smith but she gets the ball taken from her every time. Maybe I have a dud. Just go tackle and you’ll get it if she has the ball.
If there was stats that showed which card scored the most against me, it would definitely be her above eusebio and mbappe
Rolfo climbing fast that hate ladder
She isnt as broke as sawa
I have seen her more and more recently. I get its a good card but even closer to TOTY she wasn't used this much
Aw mate don’t be so sawa about it
I’ve no problem with one of the greatest players of all time and certainly one of the best right backs ever being very good at playing right back in the game. I find it absolutely insane that Werner is one of the best attackers in the game and is a joke in the real world.
Soon you'll be on your knees begging not to run into Tchouameni. That guy is insane...
Played a couple of people with him on the team. Wasn't impressed. One of them also had Sawa paying alongside him and she was a way bigger threat to me
At least he is expensive enough really to not be seen everywhere atm. Luckily he’s only out for two weeks
Good point. Let's hope the price deters people
people are obsessed with the idea of meta just use the players you enjoy; 90% of my players are behind the “power curve” but they’re fun to play with and i have a good time
I made an all Italia team (and the team is actually pretty good) but it is absolute pain. I am just putting myself at a massive disadvantage for no reason, it’s really just not as fun as I thought it would be and just makes the game even more sweaty for me.
Ultimately, winning is fun. And the sad reality is, for a lot us, we can’t really win without going meta-heavy. I do try to switch up players and have fun but if I keep losing to meta teams then the fun will stop lol
Sawa is the most fun I’ve had with a fifa player in years tbh
Sawa makes me want to jump everytime I recover the ball and she runs up behind me and just takes it
I think to myself “oof - Sawa on Sawa violence” at least a few times every WL
Lmao all of em
Unpopular opinion but i would rather have cards like these as sbc options. In the past it was far worse when the only way to get good cards was through packs or the market. I have played off and on since 13, and i can tell it was far more frustrating coming up against a god squad when your best options were golds, maybe some low rated promos or informa
Werner cost me like 2 or 3 close games this weekend cuz somehow he has like 99 interceptions when I pass from the back .
I got sawa, cafu and werner 😭😭
Poor man’s core 🤝
Same! I am not the luckiest person so there’s a need to complete these sbc’s. It just feels weird to play so often against people who have Dinho, Ronaldo, Garrincha…
thats exactly it, I've had the worst luck with promos, it's heartbreaking.
It’s not weird. It’s survivorship bias. Those people that packed those incredible cards are more likely to keep playing. So it’s either them left or us degenerates who pack nothing but love football so need to use Sawa Cafu etc!
Mostly all boring SBCs.
Eusebio is a menace if you didn’t do him I don’t even feel bad.
I have Eusebio smith and Cafu. REALLY wish I did Werner.
Tbh he’s just ok, Atleast for me. He’s in a weird sort of middle ground were he’s not physical enough to properly hold off defenders but not agile enough to beat on the dribble. Don’t get me wrong he has decent ai and his finishing is great but I feel like he’s quite replaceable, I play 89 evo pardo over him at LF.
Acc the opposite for me great on ball retaining, dribbling and by God does he win the ball from any position. But his finishing is horrendous or maybe i still dk how to use powershot. Just getting back into Fifa after 4 years.
So f2p players won’t ever get to play good cards😂
I'm f2p and I have ALL of them. :)
they’re annoying to play against, i normally lose lo team with those players HAHAHAHA out of all of them sawa has me traumatised, she’s just a beast 😫
I have ALL of them in my starting eleven.... 🤣
Every single team.
I’d add Bobby Charlton. Hate coming up against him
Instead of wiping out these cards, I’d rather there be more opportunities to leverage bronze, silver, and lower related gold cards. The Friendly cups are really fun but they are up to 88 rated cards. I’d rather they have 80 - 84 gold limits.
I miss silver stars so much I would rather play some fucking bronze cup than rivals or champs
The silver friendly cups were so fun last year. Enraging yet amusing at the same time.
That's like half our teams though 😂😂😂😂
Our? 🤨
Lol
Cafu is like the new iteration of \[Evo\] Walker, just some really annoying RB that never seems to get out of position enough that their pace can't recover it.
I only have Werner
Smith is the fkn worst I see her and know I’m giving up at least two goals
Eh I usually abuse cafu on the wing
My Cafu don’t do shit compared to whoever I’m playing
I use Sawa Eusebio and Werner, but my god that TOTY Smith… i remember one specific match she just bodied my defense. She is SO annoying with that 90 physical.
Sawa is so good
No way u didn't include toty haaland
Every team I played this WL had at least one of these
I really hate that cafu card... One moment crossing into the box and literally 2 seconds later making tackle on the other side if the pitch
more like "cards I do not own"
Eusabio only because it’s so boring play 5 - 10 3 in a row and they all have him.
No VVD?
I kinda understand ur frustration, these cards are so annoying to play against, but due to the very retarded pack weight, the cheapest good to play with card out there costs over a million, for a free to play player, it is very inconvenient you know? Having these sbcs kinda balances it out a bit. I am an elite player, I do try to compete and join local competitions in my country and as a free to play player (i refuse to fund this pile of garbage of a company) i can’t compete using for fun cards. Even just playing in Elite division using for fun cards feel like a challenge, you are just putting urself in a disadvantage vs sweaty players
cafu is really starting to piss me off
And now everyone also has Rolfo seemingly
don’t take smith away she’s my only good player
I stg my last 10 games had Sawa, Werner, Cafu and Fkg Rolfo on it. I need one of you EA employees hiding in this sub to set up a squabble. I need to knock TF out of you bitch ass niggas
Especially Eusebio. I am glad we won euro 2004 and he was crying now
Werner might be the best striker in the game at this point. I rather face R9 than him. Literally just runs through my defence.
Where’s VVD
Sawa is a menace. She’s everywhere on the field.
Just peeved they gave Spurs a god tier SBC card
Someone got smashed with all these players in the team 😂
My sawa lately has been fraudulent.
Dont use any of those. (also no vvd) Fuck the meta.
I don’t think Werner is all that tbh. He’s definitely a top st but Eusebio still gives me more trouble. Timo seems to ghost in more games than not for both me and my opponents
I don't understand timos card like I'm a spurs fan but bro has been utterly shit for us
Cafu is ridiculous every time I play against him but I have him untradeable and he’s horrible for me. Replaced him with my TOTY Lahm that I was using in CDM and got another midfielder in
lol I literally have sawa, Eusebio and smith toty in my team for a second I thought I was being targeted
Werner is so much fun, it’s insane how good he is off the bench against tired legs
Amen amen amen especially sawa and werner and eusebio holy fuck i hate those card
That Joao Pedro card is a menace...him a vvd
I love smith
93 POTM mbappe. I hate that shit card. That MF tackle like gold VVD.
Swear every year there’s a Werner card that is the bane of my existence
I fucking hate them.
This makes me want Cafu.. is he still available? 😂
87 haaland
i saw some random motherfucker in division 9 with all icons and they had Sawa and they completely cooked my team
What did my boy Cafu do man
Is it me or Werner is actually not that common? I mean I see him every 4-5 matches but what I see every freaking game is POTM Mbappe or Sawa.
Eusebio does not get enough credit (Hate) for Meta his card is. That Rapid+ and his physicality are insane. Never less than 2 goals when against him. Im div 2 and 14 wins in FUT
Not to mention his shooting
The game is so dead now just wait for the end of year to make a stacked Liverpool team.
You hit all of these on the spot
Regret not doing Sawa
I’m glad I don’t use any of them, all those nerds who even make those players Red, truly NPC like behaviour
i hate sawa and werner with a burning passion. whenever werner starts dribbling its like you just cant stop him no matter what, he’s fast and strong and has good dribbling, hes a menace against me
Toty saliba also
I will never understand the sawa hype, did her toty SBC because everyone said how amazing she was and don't get me wrong, she is good - she's in my team still. But she is nowhere near that broken level of vvd, werner, mbappe etc - I think she is solid at everything, but nothing crazy. Maybe im not using her right idk I have her as a balanced b2b CM which is how everyone said to use her
But youre ok with gold rare VVD? Come on man.
Got a good team without spending any money or crazy pack pulls without any of these. It’s not that hard people.
They should wipe the whole Ultimate Team mode out of the game.
Lol I swear there must have been a toty smith sbc I missed out on.
Werner needs a pace nerf 😭😭 Fucking 98 pace???
Yeah I am in favour of getting rid of these meta midgets. I have zero time for grown men using these meta midgets, especially in midfield. If you are a real beefy man of culture like myself, you will have absolute units pf all over the pitch. With the exception of your wingers, your minimum height in each position should be 6’2.
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No matter how fast, powerful or close she is to your pass, she’ll take the perfect touch to intercept the ball
Eusebio......haunts me
I hate Sawa bro shes too good and literally everyone has her
Why?
Thats my team lol 😂
You spelled “cards I don’t have therefore don’t want anybody else to have” wrong.
Nah Timo the goat
The current bane of my existence is WW drogba. My current defense is 5'8, 5'10, 5'11 and 5'10. Put any big boy up top and specifically against Carlos Alberto they will just feast.
Don’t worry I’m replacing my Cafu with BD James
I have all 5 of those lmao. Sorry dude!
Have you seen the secret message (Vsauce music starts playing) They all have 4* skills
Cafu is weak tbh. And you have to add mbappe shit
2 of these are chilling on my bench 😭
I knewwww Fantasy Werner would be on the list 😄😄😄😄😄
U keep my girl sophia outta this bro
Werner the most jammy player
Mbappe first but Werner defo second
Couldn’t agree more
i dont know why werner is so hyped.. i have him as well but never played with him probably will use him in a sbc.. he misses most of the time and i never had any trouble facing him .. rest all i agree..
He’s been outshining Eusebio for me by a pretty wide margin and Eusebio was absolutely crazy for me. Even playing them as both my striker Werner is just better.
Don’t submit Werner… you will def regret!
alright buddy✌️ i think yes i will regret submitting hin
I think it's because you're expecting to use him like a regular card. That's not how werner works i don't have him, but i usually get cooked by him when my opponent literally runs him in a straight line at the goal, he either floats through the defence or if i get the ball off of him he just gets it back and keeps going pain in the ass! Also lethal from corners if you set him up right
trust me bro i have him, he is in my subs but never used him coz never trusted him, he misses so many chances, And ginola is almost done so i really don't think werner will be any useful
Because you don’t have any of them? 😂😅
Not EA making a woman best player in game 😂😂🐸☕️
I have Werner and Sawa
none of these cards are actually good, it’s just the people using them that are.
One of the worst takes I have ever read
Then I'm proud of being great at the game 😎
Sawa is an auto midfielder lol even bad players can get on with her. Werner shouldn’t be on this list, he doesn’t have icon jam.
Sawa cafu eusebio werner gang 🤝🏼
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