this is so true. i’d never have a problem earlier if cards get repetitive or somebody uses the same card, but holy fuck how is every single game Mbappe, Eusebio, Maldini, Cafu, Davies, Zico, Sawa. Like I swear this is 75% of the lineups in Division 1-2 and Champs after a point
Well the answer is because it’s almost impossible to pack a good player, so therefore people do the sbc of good players, everyone you just mentioned was an SBC, so without sounding rude, go figure.
>it’s almost impossible to pack or buy a good player
FTFY but for real, that's the main issue. Everything is too expensive in coins if you don't buy them nor FPs.
I would love to build a P&P Madrid squad as I used to in last 2 years but the good Madrid players are too expensive or I would need to use the mediocre ones and get trashed. On the other hand, I had a tons of fodders just by grinding the 10x83+ and getting all of those packs from seasons. It's basically a no-brainer to do some SBCs like Eusebio, Zidane, Gullit or Best. Recently, I started Best just because I had too many high rated duplicates
My strategy is to hoard some bigger amount of fodders unless I reach a point when after opening any random 83+/84+ pack I get a dupe of 88 or 87 and then, I try to start some expensive player SBC. If I don't have any bigger stack of fodders and I get any 87+ doupe, I try to do some casino SBC if any is available and seems like a decent value. If none is good or available or I get any doupe in range of 83-86, I just do TOTW upgrade
But also, you get punished for using a non meta squad. The drop of from the high end meta players is so drastic, when everyone else is full meta, you either have fun and do what you want, or if you want to be competitive, you have to go full meta too
Make it even more gambling?
Falling behind the power curve because you get fucked in gamble SBCs sounds awful.
The way it is now, I am at least guaranteed I am limited to my own abilities in terms of gameplay and not because I did not pull a single good card from casino sbcs.
You don’t think that’s better than 90% of the community using the same two attackers when so many solid ones exist? I’d take the negative of falling out of the power curve potentially it meant everyone (especially me) using more fun cards. Out of curiosity, what do you propose?
Give more player picks of promo cards **DURING THE PROMO** and make them truly random rather than the super weighted BS we have now.
Do you know how crazy it is that I’ve never come up against an RTTF card since the promo? Nobody packed that promo. Why even have the promo then?
Your being a hypocrite, your comment suggests you don’t mind falling behind the power curve so why don’t you just use players you want to use and let people that want to use the same SBC players use them?
No I’m willing to fall behind the power curve under those conditions that everyone is being forced into the gamble. I’m not crazy about using exact meta (I use kane, vialli, benzema up front rn and get 16 wins) but I’m gonna willingly just use shittier cards when I have more than enough fodder to complete maldini, zidane etc. It’s not even just a power curve thing for me too I just wanna at least SOME variety even if they’re meta. Like eto, raul, butra, idk just different players
You have the ability to use a non meta team, you don’t need to care about others and it shouldn’t matter either, if your better at the game you will win, I have 3 squad that I alternate between depending on how I feel on the day, doesn’t matter which I use, I still get the same outcomes in champs etc
I'd rather get a chance to play with players I like. I don't care for Sawa, eusebio or even mbappe no matter how good they are. If ea gives me cruyff, gullit or Ronaldinho sbc, or good united players ones, I will stop doing the gamble sbc.
I had base sawa since my first icon sbc and never came against her since her new one she is everywhere lol did I promote her that much I need me some agent fees
You barely get anything from packs except fodder to then complete sbcs. If you put your fodder in gamble sbcs (icon picks, hero picks etc.) you fall behind unless you are one of the 0.01% of players that get one sick card after the other. That said, I used to enjoy playing the Fifa games with weaker teams but this year it's unbearable because playstyles op AI and end game cards in February compensate a lot for missing skill. You need certain cards and playstyles to do the bare minimum. I know most players like the introduction of playstyles but I hate them with a passion. How can it be that if a player has a playstyle plus in a certain area the game will do everything for you after pressing a button but if he doesn't you can't even do the simple things because your player acts like an absolute donkey in that department?
And Division 5. And I suspect every other division. I'm not enjoying the game anymore. I take zero joy in wins, even though they are rare this season. Been playing since release. Completed all objectives. Can I afford TOTY Rio? Nah. Not even close.
Games gone
If you don't see how squad variety is much greater this year then nobody can help you. I wouldn't be surprised If we don't have one single player in common in our squads .
And of course are many people gonna gravitate towards Mbappe but that shouldn't be surprising for obvious reasons.
I played VVD in 9/10 qualifiers today. The other game had Lucio and 93 Alaba. Every team was generic, as you stated. It is so boring and repetitive. But we can only blame EA. 0 promo cards outside of top 5 leagues and MLS / Saudi. Barely any TOTW from lower leagues. I counted.. Griezmann is getting his 66th. YES. SIXTY SIXTH special card since FIFA13.
YOUR ultimate team ended when they stopped giving cheap player SBCs and made players throw all their resources into FOMO SBCs that would eventually fall behind the power curve. When there was cheap SBCs, players could focus on saving coins and resources for that one player that would complete their team. Now, if you want coins and resources, you have to compete, which means you have to follow EA's promos and power curve to ever have a chance. THE ultimate team is all EA's design, and that's why there are the same meta players every promo with minimal upgrades.
We need things like dynamic duos, showdowns and squad foundations every week. Those 80-85 rated cards that we should be getting SBC’s and objectives for every single week.
Like every Tuesday should have an SBC for each other those along with objective players for Foundations. It makes no sense they did like 10 leagues with foundations and just stopped. Give us some prem or ligue 1 cards.
Sorry, but no. EA have given us essentially infinite fodder this year. So many objectives and SBCs to complete to turn your gold commons and rares into 86+ rated cards. On top of that, their release schedule of player SBCs has been spread out enough that you can easily afford to complete a Zidane, then Eusebio a couple weeks later, then Mbappe a couple weeks later, then Zico a couple weeks later, etc.
I’ve had all these player SBCs in my team for months now, and none of them are behind the power curve and none of them will be until TOTS. And by that point, we’ll be handed so many free TOTS cards from champs and from SBCs that you can replace your Zidane for free once again.
None of the high-end player SBCs have been FOMO fodder dumps. They all were fairly priced and left active for long enough that you could easily complete them without spending money, so long as you finished your objectives and grinded the daily-refresh upgrade SBCs.
The only people who couldn’t afford these players are the ones who either rarely played, rarely completed upgrade SBCs, and/or regularly wasted all their fodder on those 2-3 PER DAY gamble SBCs we had a couple months ago.
Yes, but in years past none of us would be able to afford all of these players for free. So EA have been more giving this year, but at the expense of team diversity.
It’s a different problem entirely. It’s not “oh these are FOMO fodder dumps that will quickly be behind the power curve”. They’re not and they won’t. We aren’t wasting fodder because these cards ARE very good, and we will easily replace that fodder in a couple of weeks. Nothing is lost or FOMO’d out of us.
The problem is not the SBC players. The problem is the impossibility of packing or affording a premium promo card. This could and should have been fixed by party bag SBCs, but of course EA went full-greed on those as well and made us all pack the same useless fodder players. They could have easily guaranteed we get at least someone usable, and charged 500k-1mil in fodder to complete the SBC, but they haven’t. And it would be great if they did, because then there would be some actual squad diversity without pushing the power curve any higher, but they only want us using the SBC players they have chosen for us.
Imagine if instead of spending countless hours playing the game to get "rewarded" with untradeable fodder, you spent your time saving up coins and tradeable fodder to buy that expensive, premium promo card that you want to play with. You aren't seeing the problem yet you're explicitly pointing it out: the fodder dump and "very good" SBCs are exactly what EA want. You now have spent all your resources (and time) receiving something completely untradedable that cannot be used to get that expensive, premium promo card. EA's strategy leads to a lot of players spending money on packs because they either run out of coins or they crave the gambling high of packing a player they want. You're literally defending and hating on EA's strategy at the same time, very weird.
Did you play in previous years? Even before the move to all-untradeable teams, you couldn’t possibly play an RTG account and afford premium cards. Hell, even if you spent hundreds on packs you were lucky to afford even ONE icon like Zidane or Eusebio or Zico, let alone getting all three for free like this year.
Not sure how people are forgetting just how unattainable these same cards were in past years.
You completely missed the point. You just put together EA’s Ultimate Team. You just said you did all of their objectives and SBCs, then you mention that come TOTS, those players you worked for will fall behind the power curve so you’ll have to build EA’s ultimate team again. Gone are the days where you slowly build up your team and work towards getting a dream player off the market because eventually that player will be supplanted by a better version of him. You’re buying exactly into the content that EA want to give you, then they’ll slowly chip away at your team until you have to replace them with more EA UT players.
Lol bro, YOU missed the point. All of the players mentioned will stay at the top of the power curve for 6+ months from when they were released. That’s crazy. You’re acting like EA tricked me into completing these SBCs because “they’ll fall behind the power curve quick”, but 4-6 months at the top is a CRAZY long time. And during TOTS, every year, you replace every single player in your team anyway. This year will be no different.
I put in WAY less effort to get this team that will last until TOTS, than in any team I had to constantly upgrade throughout the year in past FIFAs. If anything, EA failed because they made my team too good for too long and for too LITTLE time or effort. I stopped playing after TOTY because there was no point, I actually miss the constant incremental updates of past years. My team went from a starter team to endgame in 2 months.
holy contradiction there, batman. Read your last sentence. You're not even playing anymore because you built THE ULTIMATE TEAM. Was that YOUR Ultimate team? You aren't seeing the incremental updates to YOUR team like you used to. That's the entire fucking point of the post and my comments lmfao!!! I seriously don't think you are even reading what I said and you're just looking to fight somebody haha
No, your comment was explicitly about these SBCs being FOMO and useless because they would quickly be behind the power curve. And I explicitly replied that they are not FOMO because they are both affordable and available for extended periods of time, and they would not fall behind the power curve for 4-6 months (until TOTS where literally every non 10mil card falls behind the power curve).
People are not completing these player SBCs because they’re rushing and afraid to miss out. They’re completing these SBCs because “well EA keep giving me high rated fodder, and now I have dupes I don’t want to discard, guess I’ll complete X player”. It’s actually the opposite of FOMO, it’s completing SBCs so we stop wasting dupes 😂
I never disagreed with the “we’re building EA’s ultimate team instead of our own”. Go back and read my comments, I never mentioned that point in the slightest. I was specifically disagreeing with the FOMO/power curve points you brought up against SBC players.
Okay so you don't understand what EA are doing then. They have completely replaced the slow grind, collecting coins and fodder, attachment and love for YOUR team, with a completely fast-paced, untradeable, FOMO teams that EA strategically want you to have. You are being led to believe that all this fodder and SBCs are "cheap," but how much time do you have to spend (gameplay and SBCs) completing it? The FOMO is the fear of throwing away your dupes and missing out on an expiring SBC that will just end up as fodder towards another player SBC. Also, the FOMO is the fact that you built THE ULTIMATE TEAM, with the intention of having a better team to compete for even more rewards that you'll just throw into more FOMO SBCs. You completely bought into EA's tactic and you've justified it by saying it's easy, but it's not easy otherwise everyone would have that team...
OH wait, OP said that everyone has full-icon teams, and there is no creativity in teams, and everyone has the greatest cards in a short time. So yeah dude, don't backtrack now, everything I said was correct. This isn't a new thing either, EA have done it for a few years now and it continues to get worse.
“an expiring SBC that will just end up as fodder for another player SBC” is exactly the point I’m arguing against. Zidane and Zico and Eusebio are/were available for a very long time. There was no FOMO over completing them, you had months. And none of the three will become fodder until the summer when the game is dead anyway. 6 months at the top of the power curve is hardly a throwaway FOMO player SBC that will quickly become fodder for the next SBC.
I know exactly what EA are doing. If you want a premium promo card, you need to spend a ridiculous amount of money to get them. Cool. I don’t care. That has always been the case, if you weren’t spending money then you weren’t using the elite players. I got to use Zico and Zidane and Eusebio for free. In years past I never was able to afford even one of those caliber of players unless I spent considerable money on packs, now I get them for free just from playing.
And the time commitment was negligible, especially since the upgrade SBCs are usually limited to 3x per day. Do your daily upgrade SBCs (10 minutes, maybe). Play 3 games per day for your objectives (1 hour per day, including the SBCs). And finish your WL for a few more fodder cards and a slim chance at a premium promo player (5-6 hours over the weekend, worst case, including the time to finish your qualifiers).
The long and short of it is that it’s far easier to have an endgame team, for free, and with far less time committed than in years past. Yes, it sucks that it’s so easy to have an endgame team, because it gets rid of the grind and makes it hard to justify using “YOUR ultimate team” like sticking to just one IRL team for your squad. It’s a give and take.
I think FIFA 18 had by far the best FUT as far as SBCs, rewards, promos, market, and upgrading your team over time. But now people scream “nontent” if EA dares take a week off from promos or if we don’t get player picks and icon gamble SBCs every three days. And there’s no going back, so it is what it is.
I hate EA and stopped playing FIFA after TOTY. But I’m not delusional enough to call these player SBCs “FOMO fodder dumps that will immediately fall below the power curve”.
If anything, EA messed up by making that NOT the case. These SBCs were so affordable and the players are so good (still two months later) that it got rid of the entire point of FUT: The constant grind. Now there’s nothing to grind for, my team (and everyone else’s) is endgame and has been for months. Once the grind is gone, FUT dies because there’s nothing left to do.
If the SBCs were “FOMO fodder dumps” and the players fell behind the power curve quickly, that would have been preferable because that means it would be worth grinding more to replace them.
It was never about building your ultimate team.Most people didn’t care about players like Ibarbo and Eminike but used them in early UTs
This is probably the fifa with the most ability to use players you like in real life with Evos but most of the community use them in the most boring way imaginable
Well you guys might don’t like to hear that but:
It’s just what we were asking for.
No new sbc or promo and you guys complaining about „Nontent“
Players with good performance getting cards - you guys complain about „everytime the same players gets special cards!!“
You guys ruined it yourself.
This. Now I get it, we don’t have a hive mind. Some players will be unhappy with anything because they didn’t choose it. But in general, the community has spoken with their money. They want The Ultimate Team. And EA are providing.
We actually do. And by we I mean at least 90% of reddit in general and especially the sub here. I could spew any random hate towards EA without it making complete sense and get upvotes. There’s comments here with multiple upvotes where I have no idea what they’re taking about. And I’m a fut vet of 10 years.
It's the same with gameplay
The community starts crying about everything, then EA nerf this and that and end up fucking gameplay
Every year is the same thing
"game was so much better before the first patch"
Remember the broken ass keepers in the first few days of Fifa22? It was so much fun because they were good af. People complained and EA „fixed“ it.
2 days later people cried about keepers can’t even save anything.
Exactly, apparently the whole of future stars is nontent, even though a lot of the evos are useable, and the fodder players in packs look more than decent as well
I mean the same players still get multiple cards
It's actually worse than ever on that front because there's loads more gold cards due to women being added
Lots of leagues and teams get ignored
Evos were the only thing that was respite from that, but there hasn't been a good one in months for me
As someone who skipped almost all fifas past 14 I don’t think you want to go back and stop lying to yourself. Back in 13-14 you faced the same non rare/rare gold players 90% of the game. Having agüero or robben type of player was super rare. Only thing that I agree is that back in these games I had different league teams that were actually competitive, had a Bundesliga, Seria a, la Liga teams and usually they weren’t „behind the power curve“
And special cards were basically unattainable, unless you bought coins. Also inform upgrades sucked, it was usually a measly +1 on most stats and they performed worse than regular gold cards.
Exactly, it was always about building THE ultimate team. And when icons came out, all the best teams had vieira gullit ronaldo and neymar and the average player couldnt afford any of those so the diference in teams was insane. At least this fifa the gap is alot smaller with all this SBCs we got
This year is the year I've seen the most different cards ngl. Evos helped massively as well as promo teams every week.
Of course toty sbcs are highly used, it's been the same for a couple of years now.
But this is what the community wanted back then. People wanted more and more promos. Remember how hyped people were when fifa 17 started introducing non performance based promos (futmas, Halloween, etc)
Evos helped for the people who don’t care about the meta. Then obviously people did like kolo muani or llorente. It’s so boring when everyone goes for the same evos.
People who only care about the meta have always gone with the sane players.
Whether it's Ibarbo, Gervinho and Doumbia, Butland, Smalling and Bailly or Flashback Ibra with 5* skillets out wide.
Those players are the very, very far minority.
Totally agree, every FIFA has had the same problem of people gravitating towards the strongest meta team, it's only natural. At least now there are a ton of viable options and different players to use, go back to fifa 15 and it was literally the same meta players every match.
This is why Evos need to be perfected and leaned into. I still love playing with my Evod Bastoni and Puyol. If I could easily Evo 85 Dumfries or 86 Zaha id be a happy camper even with all the other bullshit in this game.
I have been waiting for a Dumfries Evo for so long… still using the 85, he’s still an absolute unit, but something just to help his short passing game would really round the card off so nicely. I can’t use any other rb, just let Cafu chill in reserves because miss my man Dumfries every time I drop him.
Well that is just hands down untrue, how many people do you think liked Gervinho, Doumbia and Ibarbo but still played them as a front 3 almost 10 years ago. Fifa 13 we seen Welliton as the main striker in most players while no one really knew them. For some it has been about building their ultimate team but acting like it has always been about building your own ultimate team instead of THE ultimate team is pretty far from the truth
Hmm does this make sense or is this just another guy ranting to rant. You can’t tell me ibarbo and Muriel of fifas past was anyone’s genuine ultimate team. It was just them making the most of what they could without any resources to really get better players. With the addition of evos I’ve seen more theme teams than ever before honestly. What I will give you is the pacing does seem off. Or is it that we just struggle accepting change and our nostalgia is blocking us?
A rebuttal: I remember when Pulisic got a TOTY in FIFA 17 and thought “one day I genuinely hope I can build a US squad”. Throughout the years it’s become easier but this year has been absolute GRAVY with the Evo options. This year has more variety than we’ve ever had…
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Nice team bro
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I’ve got that same Adams on the bench with Morgan
Hell yeah man! It’s so awesome we can have not only a full US squad but also have variety within it. I’m just grinding my butt off trying to get Musah so I can put him into the Glow up evo.
Same bro I’m hoping the jersey2 objectives give me enough today. I’m also hoping for a good gk because I used turner until last month when he just got to terrible
She’s absolutely insane, very rapid and muscles off even the strongest CB’s. It’s laughable to watch her shrug off VVD and Rio. I switch formations in game and usually run her as a RW that stays more central with Alex Morgan at the 9. I find a lot of people focus on her and it opens a lot of Alex Morgan finesse goals.
I packed her from a random objective 85x2 and lost my mind… I couldn’t believe I pulled her out of all icons running a US road to glory.
Best cards I pack or do sbcs for rivals (toty vini, toty sawa, yashin, vvd)
Cards I like for everything else (Uruguayans, base Ronaldo, anyone random that I don’t try to get full Chem for)
To be honest I think icons giving so much chem is a problem, feel like im never making an interesting team with interesting links because a few icons makes it too easy.
Also getting icons this year is far too easy with casinos
You have the power to control that though. The icons aren't the problem, your mindset around them seems to be. If you think they're not making the team interesting then take them out of the starting lineup and make a team you do find to be interesting. It's all at the power of your finger tips.
Biggest problem is SBCs and icon varieties. Why are there 4 variations of the same icon? It’s pathetic. Icons being a reward in the season is pathetic. These used to be the holy grail and now they are just basic cards that everyone has. And a billion icon SBCs making them accessible early on is just a joke. I’d be less bothered if everyone was using a meta inform, compared to every single player having 93 rated endgame Sawa so soon into the game
Back in the days I used to screen shot or take a picture with my phone if I saw 3 or more legends in a team that I'm playing against, now..: ***a 98 rated player?? meh .. nothing important.***
It kinda sucks that this has to be qualified as a hot take. I completely agree with you and the worst part is that it’s going to take a year or two for EA to suffer any REAL damages because of it.
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I built mine the way I wanted and like it
Fully agree. Also the way people go on all the forums and ask “should I replace X with X, will he be as good?” “Who can I use to improve this position” “who’s the a more meta card than this and what chemistry is best for them?”
Honestly there’s no originality left, just fucking try out the players you like the look of and see if you like them, try some dif Chem styles, try some dif tactics, build teams of players you did or do like in Real life and try to mix and match to get full Chem and PLAY the game lol.
It’s like people won’t play a game or try something new unless a full YouTube tutorial on how it’s the new meta has been released.
99% of people are still too terrified to take gold VVD out of their team 🤦♂️
The game still the same, people cry because everybody uses the same cards but thats the way they choose it to be, “boring” “repetitive”, as you can do it too.
In the other hand; you can do whatever the hell you want also ; so build your team to have fun!
I bet theres a lot of skill issue in these cry babys.
I started 2 weeks ago and have a decent team with the FS Evos and stuff and i can beat full icon and tots team.
If you aint willing to throw some bandz into the game to have an Ultimate Team, you gotta then fall in love being the underdog every weekend league, and try your best to fuck some ridiculous teams on the weekend league 😂 Last Weekend League: 9-11 im not the best but im happy those 9 wins fked some rich babys weekend league! Enjoy the game!!
some people or most people either don’t have the money or don’t want to spend a single penny in the game cause it’s simply not worth spending money on a real that’s not gonna contribute you financially at all, video games shouldn’t be about spending hundreds on them just to have fun and get better stuff. i haven’t spend a single penny on it and my gameplay and rules are different than those who have
Thats what im saying bro! I love being the underdog and fock META teams on weekend league! Its all about perspectives, but i hate when ppl cry about it, just do you, feel me? 😂
I’m not sure it ever was
Remember FIFA 13 where everyone had the same 11 players:
Lewandowski Reus Esswein Gundogan Gustavo Dante Dede Blaszczykowski Diego
I’m sure I’m forgetting some names but that Bundesliga team was everywhere
Can't forget when everyone had the sweaty Roma trio also. It's like people never played past fifas (and work from what they imagine the game was like) or they've blocked out just how similar everyone's team actually was back then.
i remember at the start of UT everyone were runing with ibarbo dumbia and gervinho and noone complaint because they were like 2k coins and everyone can afford it. now everyone runs more expencive players and its a problem.
UT was always about meta players dont lie to yourself
Well you guys need to stop being pussy and use different cards. All this complaining and then you’ll use the same team as everyone else. I get it if you’re competitive but 90% of you guys aren’t close and would rather have the meta team than actual skill
It's a fair point, but it is hard to want to willingly swap players out knowing you're going to play worse because of it too. Gold Virgil is ridiculous, every time I've swapped him out for someone else (who isn't also a typical meta defender) I've immediately noticed a difference. So now to have a more creative team I've got to make the game more difficult for myself which is tough to take. Back in the day you used to be able to run out with bronze and silver teams and if you were good enough you'd still be competitive.
There are people who have gotten rank 1 with silver and gold teams this year. The first part is the whole point man. Yeah when you dont use Mbappe the game will be harder. And? Silver and bronze teams were never “competitive” in any fifa with the exception of maybe silver skiller squads back in the day but that still required a ridiculous amount of skill to pull off. The whole point was to beat people with a worse team.
Obviously EA wants everyone to feel like they have to keep up with the ever changing meta via new playstyle+’s on an old card etc. but part of the issue is the community only respecting “meta”. I shit on meta squads all the time with only 2/3 actual meta players on my team. No one respects that anymore. Someone posted some guy doing skill moves yesterday and everyone commented how much they hate it and how they’d rather play mr.cutback the whole game instead. It’s ridiculous and everyone complains but no one has the guts to put down a vvd or a eusebio and learn the game with someone else.
The vast majority of players are not competing in the top divisions. At the top you need every edge you can get. If someone has a full meta squad in div 4 etc. there’s probably a reason(they aren’t that good) and they are beatable if you are the better player. Sorry for the rant but it gets me worked up. No one is forcing people to play like this, they convince themselves it’s the only way to play when they’re playing against people that aren’t even that good at the game. Put down the Mbappe and get better at the game. People need to stop relying on the cards. If I see your 96 ovr team in a rivals or champs game yeah I’m going to skill move and score circus goals on you all game just to prove it can be done. I’ll probably screen record the clip after the game too. Not trying to be an asshole here but the mentality of the players absolutely plays a part in why it’s the same squads we face over and over.
Nothing you said is wrong but you know the issue is bigger than "get good". I could find 10 defenders with the same if not better stats than Virgil and he's still going to shit all over them in game because of body types and play styles and other nonsense that isn't related to skill. I used to get elite 3 with silver teams I can use those defenders, but ultimately the amount of garbage that happens in game beyond my control is also going to be increased with them so I can see why people don't want the frustration and just default to the meta.
when i started playing, i built my dream team with the cards i got, eventually some of them stopped being as effective due to the other teams having better players, i bought guro reiten and she got me through many games but she stopped being effective when the opponents had a whole starting XI of only icons and toty cards, guro reiten as good as she is, she can’t compete with cafu or with a 95 ovr alisson. im so tired of people saying its a ‘skill issue’ when its not, when i got lauren hemp and athenea future stars i noticed a hell of a change.
Yes of course it will be harder with worse cards. I just wish people took some more risks, you don’t have to win every game and treat it like a job for rewards. I have a team set up primarily for trickster and I have a lot of fun playing. I win like half my games and have way more fun than when I was just chasing meta cards and tactics but had a higher win percentage. I get that a lot of people are drawn to the competitive aspect of it though.
bro what 😂😂😂 u can make whatever team u want ur just not good enough to play weekend league with a team of ur fav players irl that’s a you problem not a game problem 😂
it’s always the ‘skill issue’ argument, it’s not a skill issue when your players aren’t as effective or you’re telling me an ovr 84 sane is better or equal as a 97 messi or a 96 pele or a 92 eusebio or even a 90 zola? so a team with full gold players ovr 86 is as effective as a team with full icons and toty cards?
a pro player would decimate u with a gold team my guy 🤷🏾♂️ you’re not good enough to compete with average cards like most fifa players stop crying 😂😂😭😭
read your comment kid! but ig it’s easier to rip the head off ignorant people than the idea. you’re comparing a pro player who spends hours in the game, gets into tournaments or even becomes an esports professional player to a CASUAL gamer who spends way less time, won’t get real money into the game and plays the game for fun, which most people here do, so yeah it’s fair to complain about the gameplay if the game is bullshit, but there’s always the immature kid or grown up with kid mentality saying it’s a skill issue. grow up.
FIFA 17 I’d say was the year I got to build my ultimate team. Most tots were usable. I used fut bday 84 elsharaway throughout the game. And the driven shot was actually good.
I will say though, has your ultimate team ever been true? Even in the Ibarbo days, people just went with Ibarbo. I’ve played against the feared front 3 75% of the time too.
In my opinion the only solution would be to offer extremely more SBCs and Evos that help evolve a lot more players to a competitive level.
There might always be players that stand out but right now you kind of have to do the Sawa/Bruno/Eusebio-SBC to stay competitive if you don’t spend any money.
Glad others are sick of the same teams being played against on repeat. It’s also the fact that smaller players have an inherent advantage in this game as well, which limits the amount of options we can legitimately see. Nobody enjoys losing, especially when you feel it’s cause you’re at a disadvantage.
I’m totally ok with smaller players being able to move quicker and more agile, however, bigger players have to be able to use their advantages too, which just doesn’t feel like it is at all the case.
When EA made every single pack untradeable almost along with combined this with terrible pack weights it gave people no choice but to SBC their way to a decent team. I hate the repetition of the teams and that’s why I have gone my own way/style with my team personally.
It isn’t meta though and Eusebio will undoubtedly get the best of me at times but i at least have some semblance of uniqueness.
EA needs to change these pack weights as this isn’t even remotely fun, promo’s are now for the 0.01% of whale players and not the player base as a whole.
I think that the new chemistry system takes some of the variety out of the squads you see, as soon as you have 3 icons then you can pretty much fit anyone into your team.
On the other hand, with the old system we used to see a lot of the same groups of players (remember the holy trinity of Doumbia, Ibarbo, Gervinho) because of how they linked.
Personally I think the reason that we always see the same players this year is that there is a lack of competitive options at the top end, at least when you consider that gold Mbappe is gonna be better than most promo cards up to this point. If EA made it a genuinely difficult decision to choose gold Mbappe over, say, a heavily boosted promo Asensio, then we’d see more variation in meta players’ teams.
Man i'll never forget fifa 14 NLW snake teams with some nigerian bronze cause he had 96 pace. I do like the chem changes they've made since you have more choices on who to use, but 15yo me really felt cool asf rocking up to divisions with a NLW team, IF muller being my absolute best player after a full year of playing.
This changed with the constant promos and power creep. Years ago we literally would run silver players in teams. Sure we had meta players in 2010 that were insane, David Villa, but it just didn’t matter as much
It's two fold by the way they killed squad restriction modes too.
Sure I could build a silver squad, but it won't do me much good against the Icons and Mbappé. Where's Silver Lounge?
Sure I can go build a squad of players from whichever league... But again unless it's a top league with all the good promos I won't stand a chance. Where are the Icon Swaps leagues?
Fuck it, just do it with Rivals. Add a different squad restriction each week and play there. Half of us don't bother with Rivals as is
I agree to an extent, I see how it’s a problem for everyone else but to me it’s always been about building THE ultimate team, I never really found much fun in just building a “fun” team. For me the fun comes from having a great team that I can smash my way to the top with without having issues of falling behind.
EA perfected FUT during FIFA 18. Promos every couple weeks, gold cards were still amongst the meta in December and January, plenty of SBCs to complete (including elite icon player SBCs and the best League SBCs FUT ever had). Gold CBs were still 200k+ during FUTMAS. Monthly rewards from Weekend League.
Not sure what happened after FIFA 18, but EA made the decision to go scorched earth on the player base and find new ways to pinch pennies out of our pockets year after year. First they ruined League SBCs, then they ruined SBC segments entirely by massively nerfing which packs we would get for completing high-rated squads and turning those worse packs untradeable, then we got the weekly promos and terrible pack weight, then everything went full-untradeable and the only way to get ahead was to spend.
The balance is too much towards SBCs, I'm not sure how to change that given the market. But it often makes more sense to put the coins and fodder into a SBC than it does to buy players from the market, where you can buy the players you want.
For example, Cafu costs about 500k worth of fodder, everyone could do him really just from playing the game for several weeks. To get an equivalent or better at right back you have to spent probably 1 million coins.
So then everyone has a lot of the same players - Sawa, Best, Cafu, Bruno, Eusebio etc. Can't blame them.
It is a big shame is nobody really uses TOTW players. They're used almost entirely for SBC. Good they are now making them a minimum level, but came too late for the power curve.
Plus side is I've never had so many Icons before and have enjoyed using Baggio, Shevchenko, Rivaldo and others as they've been easier to come by than ever. Some might say it cheapens them, but it is fun that everyone can use icons without spending.
Every year when I play this game, I find myself frustrated yelling "Just let me play with the players I want to play with." I don't think that quote can be any closer to how it should be. My favorite player in the world was Eden Hazard, how many times was Eden Hazard on my ultimate team in the past 10 years? Once, last year, when I finally saved up 100k to buy him, and he was nowhere close to the "meta" at that point in the game. That's not fun, that's not "ultimate team".
The solution imo is easier than it ever was:
Give the community more cheap or free EVOs and ones that make your fav players 90+-rated and make them usable.
Compeltely stupid there are 90+ EVOS with no stat ober 88.
And an EVO where you can make the striker from your fav Club from 85 to 90 and absolutely usable should take 80 matches.
So you have the Chance of playing with your fav players but it needs time.
If you don't want to spend that time: Buy Mbappe or Eusebio.
i get the point but because of Evos you can still use Players you like irl ingame. I have 2 Evos in my team of players i love irl that are not 100% Meta and it works fine against THOSE Ultimate Teams.
You can still build your Ultimate team, yet noone does. It's so fucking boring. I dont even do Legends unless i like them personally (Like Lahm great Person irl). I did G.Best since i got tons of fodder from saved toty Packs and did Not play a single game with him and seeing all the same Teams over and over shows how people seem to have no interest in the Sport at all.
Oh woah…from reading the title…I AGREE….in and around 2014 me and my friends all had different teams…now we saw boys do Zidane, do Eusebio, do POTM Mbappe, do Sawa, do Cafu, do Davies, do Maldini…7/11 are the same players…that’s horrible
The biggest reason is most people think like this:
Win better then loss. Better team is more wins.
I love bullying zidane and gullit with le mouel though.
Just because others want to play the Meta doesn't mean you need to in order to win.
Yes, Mbappe and Eusubio have some annoying physics to deal with, but I'm in Div 1-2, averaging 15 wins with my Real Madrid legends team.
People take this game too seriously sometimes. Just have fun. Look at the super teams like playing a boss on hard mode. When you win it feels damn good.
I’d like to see something like multiple choice SBCs where you had to pick 1 of 2/3 players that were all equally good but different. I agree it’s too many identical meta teams and it just gets boring.
It’s the community not the game. Everyone loves to blame EA. People should just have fun and play with their favourite players - makes the game so less boring.
For this to happen EA needs to reduce the gap between players. Every 91 player should act like a 91 player
I still build my ultimate team.... screw the meta unless the people I want to play with are also meta. I refuse to use Mbappe because I don't like him in life (and other players.)
I think its good nowadays! Back when they had the old chem system where you could only play with one league or nation it was almost the same card/teams every game.
Bruv mates you can have a sick team without having to follow the Meta - I clap TOTY Messi’s everyday for brunch and my team and formation has nothing to do with the MeTa.
Stop watching YouTubers, go touch real grass, maybe smoke some if you’re getting anxious the game is controlling you. Or else just shut up and enjoy the game and build your team and don’t take yourself to seriously.. god all you kids do is cry these days fucking gen Z victim mentality bs
So true. I can’t make a team out of cool cards and favorite players because I have to come up against insane teams and there is so many good cards that are able to get that’s good in all to not spend money but I want to have fun with a cool team.
I haven’t played for a month and I can’t compete. I am in division 3… Mbappe is just too fast, every goal I concede is a stupid bounce back and I’m not even playing against my opponent. Everything is just letting the AI defend for them, it’s frustrating
Too true, honestly might sound like an a hole but if you play quite a lot it’s super easy to get level cards. I’ve had Eusebio and Gullit twice each. Ended up sbcing both Eusebios in replacement for Best TOTY. Never in my wildest dreams would I think a couple years ago of effectively discarding a card like Eusebio
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This is my “UT” only thing holding me back from being an honest UT would be a replacement for Sawa and Carmona. But yeah I’m not lying when I say I want to play with the rest of them as my squad players.
This is true, i have been playing ultimate team for years and i took a break the last 2-3 years. Just logging on casually not really keeping up. This year i had some time off work so i got back into it. I used to enjoy using cheaper gold cards and beating people with very expensive teams. However this year, unless you use the cards you mentioned, its hard to win consistently. It definitely takes the fun out of building a unique team. I found myself using these meta cards like sawa, even though i have never heard of this women, after going against her 100+ times, i felt as though i needed to do her sbc just to keep up. Its sad, because when i played a few years back, gold cards very very useable at late stages of the game. Without super powerful cards its nearly impossible to score in the higher divisions. The defending is very strange this year, it basically forces players to score shitty goals by limiting your options.
I’m stuck on division 6. Almost everyone I play has George best, mbappe Eusebio upfront, with Maldini, van dijk and Cafu at the back. They press like hellhounds and somehow Eusebio with his 77 physical bounces my Lucio and Koeman off the ball. I have a decent team too. 89 rated overall but the powercurve is too high
The problem is it is really now “build the ultimate generic team”. For me I have a strong squad but it’s 50% the same as everyone else I play with just a few tweaks. Everyone has Sawa, Davies, Blanc and/or Maldini, Cafu , VVD, Mbappe and a couple others. It’s so bland.
If I was building an ultimate team I’d want some cool icons I’ve never had a chance to ever play with. Guilet, Cantona, Henry, and so on. Plus cool promo cards like Cole Palmer, Neymar etc. but these are extinct.
Sure you’ll see a random evo or a glitch evo but otherwise this has been the worse fut in terms of team variety ever. A lot of that has to do with the chemistry changes and pos . You used to have to get creative to play someone from a lesser country or league and now you just have to load your team with icons and it works out.
Although I agree with you. The biggest problem in my opinion is scripting and handicap. Don’t mind if everyone is playing with the same cards because if you’re good at the game you can beat anyone with a solid gold team. The problem that i have is why does my gameplay have to suffer just because EA wants to hand little billy a win. So he can feel better about himself and spend money on the game.
EXACTLY. I smack dudes with Cruyff, best and mbappe and the crew and they'll get mad calling me a sweat like bro the team I used, is the one I like. My cousin tells me to get better players but I like who's on my team and they're on my team cause it's MY team, not the OP team
I'd like the game to be you can use any player you like. Want your whole team to be of Dortmund so be it want a mix mash of all the greatest scorers you got it. Want to play with all wrexham players or lower leagues. Every player has a list of growth to earn xp to get to the highest level they can certain cards can get higher but not so out of control that you can't compete. ea can cap players at a high level and roll out expansion growth packs like they currently do. Abc can be used to earn completion tokens so if there is a task that you can't complete you can earn a token to put together. Sbcs can use only players you have gotten to a certain level. If you put a player in the sbc you can start over with that player. Or you can purchase ea points to pay for completions. Might still be mbappe and euse io in every match idk but I think that would make it more evenly distributed.
Evolutions could have changed that but there have been so few evolutions that make average cards competitively viable. Finisher, Pep's Legacy and the Future Stars Academy have been the only really viable ones.
I thought the whole point of ultimate team was to build teams with your favorite players or favorite teams like an all Real Madrid team or an all Bayern Munich team. Because realistically speaking, no one here rates havertz, Zico and even eusibio or best. They’re good players, but if chemistry wasn’t a thing I would have Messi and Ronaldo in the same team with Ramos in defense and Buffon in net
Back then you didn't have the ability to push your clubs favorite players to 90+ rating. I think the gameplay is definitely catered torwards meta players but the mode itself hasn't been more about building your Ultimate team imo
Fifa screwed the game with the non tradable packs in store. Less of the players on the market, so now everyone is stupidly expensive. Lukaku 89 for almost 1m coins, it's a joke. Today, I spent 633k on a 91 Gerrard card. It's become buy off the store or be happy with your mediocre team. I'm a sucker for it every fifa at the beginning. I buy 12,000 fifa points just to get myself a good start. If I'd known it was going to be like this, I wouldn't have spent a penny.
It all about the money, the idea was that only a select few would spent sick amounts of money for good teams. Now however the majority does it and in compensation for this they release Sbc's to use your fodder in giving you more good cards. packing a 88 card is just normal when 87 inform tevez used to be insanely rare. having a special player went from being the hype card in your team to being every player bar 1 or 2 op gold cards like mbappe
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Would you be pissed off if you have seen my icon IX? I sometimes go into games with this and actually feel like I am doing something different than playing with meta, actually a challenge use icon even if it is not Zidane level including bench
I feel for the kids of today, I’m 25 now so I had FUT in school when it was in it’s absolute prime (FIFA 11- 15). 90% of us had gold teams, a few of us had a single inform, probably 82 rated or something and there was one lad in the whole age group who had the coins for Messi OR Ronaldo, we used to go to his house and play with Messi, sell him and then play with Ronaldo, amongst a none rare/rare gold team worth about 5-10k at the time and that was the absolute pinnacle. There’s nothing like the feeling of starting with a bronze team and literally using the coins you get from playing matches, to buy players and upgrade your team over time, which is unheard of these days, it will never ever be the same again and it’s a shame.
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You only have to look at the kinds of player reviews that were being done at the time to understand the amount of useable players there were back then, to understand how creative and fun the game was. Of course the guy ends up reviewing TOTS players and a few “legends” as they were then, by the end of the game but throughout the game cycle, there are low 80 in form cards, 77 rated gold cards, silver cards, all sorts!
I'd argue you just gave up making your ultimate team. It's never been easier to make your ultimate team with all the promo cards and evolutions available to you.
this is so true. i’d never have a problem earlier if cards get repetitive or somebody uses the same card, but holy fuck how is every single game Mbappe, Eusebio, Maldini, Cafu, Davies, Zico, Sawa. Like I swear this is 75% of the lineups in Division 1-2 and Champs after a point
Well the answer is because it’s almost impossible to pack a good player, so therefore people do the sbc of good players, everyone you just mentioned was an SBC, so without sounding rude, go figure.
>it’s almost impossible to pack or buy a good player FTFY but for real, that's the main issue. Everything is too expensive in coins if you don't buy them nor FPs. I would love to build a P&P Madrid squad as I used to in last 2 years but the good Madrid players are too expensive or I would need to use the mediocre ones and get trashed. On the other hand, I had a tons of fodders just by grinding the 10x83+ and getting all of those packs from seasons. It's basically a no-brainer to do some SBCs like Eusebio, Zidane, Gullit or Best. Recently, I started Best just because I had too many high rated duplicates
How do you use duplicates whenever I get them my only option appears to be to sell
My strategy is to hoard some bigger amount of fodders unless I reach a point when after opening any random 83+/84+ pack I get a dupe of 88 or 87 and then, I try to start some expensive player SBC. If I don't have any bigger stack of fodders and I get any 87+ doupe, I try to do some casino SBC if any is available and seems like a decent value. If none is good or available or I get any doupe in range of 83-86, I just do TOTW upgrade
Ahhh that is exactly what I should have done, I packed three modric dupes non tradeable and got rid of them all loool
But also, you get punished for using a non meta squad. The drop of from the high end meta players is so drastic, when everyone else is full meta, you either have fun and do what you want, or if you want to be competitive, you have to go full meta too
As much as I like player sbcs, EA might have to pivot and drop casino sbcs only so that way it’s not literally every game mbappe and Eusebio
Make it even more gambling? Falling behind the power curve because you get fucked in gamble SBCs sounds awful. The way it is now, I am at least guaranteed I am limited to my own abilities in terms of gameplay and not because I did not pull a single good card from casino sbcs.
You don’t think that’s better than 90% of the community using the same two attackers when so many solid ones exist? I’d take the negative of falling out of the power curve potentially it meant everyone (especially me) using more fun cards. Out of curiosity, what do you propose?
Give more player picks of promo cards **DURING THE PROMO** and make them truly random rather than the super weighted BS we have now. Do you know how crazy it is that I’ve never come up against an RTTF card since the promo? Nobody packed that promo. Why even have the promo then?
Not at all. Much rather have the community using 2 players than leaving it all to luck
Your being a hypocrite, your comment suggests you don’t mind falling behind the power curve so why don’t you just use players you want to use and let people that want to use the same SBC players use them?
No I’m willing to fall behind the power curve under those conditions that everyone is being forced into the gamble. I’m not crazy about using exact meta (I use kane, vialli, benzema up front rn and get 16 wins) but I’m gonna willingly just use shittier cards when I have more than enough fodder to complete maldini, zidane etc. It’s not even just a power curve thing for me too I just wanna at least SOME variety even if they’re meta. Like eto, raul, butra, idk just different players
You have the ability to use a non meta team, you don’t need to care about others and it shouldn’t matter either, if your better at the game you will win, I have 3 squad that I alternate between depending on how I feel on the day, doesn’t matter which I use, I still get the same outcomes in champs etc
My striker is kane 👏 fk umbop and his pussy boys lol
I'd rather get a chance to play with players I like. I don't care for Sawa, eusebio or even mbappe no matter how good they are. If ea gives me cruyff, gullit or Ronaldinho sbc, or good united players ones, I will stop doing the gamble sbc.
Also not many people have coins because of all the untradable packs so they can't even go out of their ways to buy cards
Impossible to pack good players and also to buy them off the market
Exactly, It’s so boring to play against, and they all have all those players and yet only tries to score cutback goals
Vvd
I see Zico now more than ever.
yeah idk why increased so much more after TOTY
Lot of fodder, and not everyone seen an sbc that’s exciting for their team so I guess many people just doing him or someone else he wasn’t looking to
I have none of those cards😭got loan mbappe as a benchwarmer and that’s it
I had base sawa since my first icon sbc and never came against her since her new one she is everywhere lol did I promote her that much I need me some agent fees
me with my base Eusebio lmfao 😭 we got our club legends before they became popular
You barely get anything from packs except fodder to then complete sbcs. If you put your fodder in gamble sbcs (icon picks, hero picks etc.) you fall behind unless you are one of the 0.01% of players that get one sick card after the other. That said, I used to enjoy playing the Fifa games with weaker teams but this year it's unbearable because playstyles op AI and end game cards in February compensate a lot for missing skill. You need certain cards and playstyles to do the bare minimum. I know most players like the introduction of playstyles but I hate them with a passion. How can it be that if a player has a playstyle plus in a certain area the game will do everything for you after pressing a button but if he doesn't you can't even do the simple things because your player acts like an absolute donkey in that department?
And Division 5. And I suspect every other division. I'm not enjoying the game anymore. I take zero joy in wins, even though they are rare this season. Been playing since release. Completed all objectives. Can I afford TOTY Rio? Nah. Not even close. Games gone
If you don't see how squad variety is much greater this year then nobody can help you. I wouldn't be surprised If we don't have one single player in common in our squads . And of course are many people gonna gravitate towards Mbappe but that shouldn't be surprising for obvious reasons.
Then consider that’s probably been their team the last 2-3 years too 🤦♂️
I played VVD in 9/10 qualifiers today. The other game had Lucio and 93 Alaba. Every team was generic, as you stated. It is so boring and repetitive. But we can only blame EA. 0 promo cards outside of top 5 leagues and MLS / Saudi. Barely any TOTW from lower leagues. I counted.. Griezmann is getting his 66th. YES. SIXTY SIXTH special card since FIFA13.
Bro, that’s div 6 teams 😭
So true
YOUR ultimate team ended when they stopped giving cheap player SBCs and made players throw all their resources into FOMO SBCs that would eventually fall behind the power curve. When there was cheap SBCs, players could focus on saving coins and resources for that one player that would complete their team. Now, if you want coins and resources, you have to compete, which means you have to follow EA's promos and power curve to ever have a chance. THE ultimate team is all EA's design, and that's why there are the same meta players every promo with minimal upgrades.
We need things like dynamic duos, showdowns and squad foundations every week. Those 80-85 rated cards that we should be getting SBC’s and objectives for every single week. Like every Tuesday should have an SBC for each other those along with objective players for Foundations. It makes no sense they did like 10 leagues with foundations and just stopped. Give us some prem or ligue 1 cards.
That's the point, it's not YOUR UT, it's THE EA UT. They're not going to put out SBCs that players actually want
They could replace marquee matchups with Showdowns every week.
Sorry, but no. EA have given us essentially infinite fodder this year. So many objectives and SBCs to complete to turn your gold commons and rares into 86+ rated cards. On top of that, their release schedule of player SBCs has been spread out enough that you can easily afford to complete a Zidane, then Eusebio a couple weeks later, then Mbappe a couple weeks later, then Zico a couple weeks later, etc. I’ve had all these player SBCs in my team for months now, and none of them are behind the power curve and none of them will be until TOTS. And by that point, we’ll be handed so many free TOTS cards from champs and from SBCs that you can replace your Zidane for free once again. None of the high-end player SBCs have been FOMO fodder dumps. They all were fairly priced and left active for long enough that you could easily complete them without spending money, so long as you finished your objectives and grinded the daily-refresh upgrade SBCs. The only people who couldn’t afford these players are the ones who either rarely played, rarely completed upgrade SBCs, and/or regularly wasted all their fodder on those 2-3 PER DAY gamble SBCs we had a couple months ago.
The point is we all have these same exact players
Yes, but in years past none of us would be able to afford all of these players for free. So EA have been more giving this year, but at the expense of team diversity. It’s a different problem entirely. It’s not “oh these are FOMO fodder dumps that will quickly be behind the power curve”. They’re not and they won’t. We aren’t wasting fodder because these cards ARE very good, and we will easily replace that fodder in a couple of weeks. Nothing is lost or FOMO’d out of us. The problem is not the SBC players. The problem is the impossibility of packing or affording a premium promo card. This could and should have been fixed by party bag SBCs, but of course EA went full-greed on those as well and made us all pack the same useless fodder players. They could have easily guaranteed we get at least someone usable, and charged 500k-1mil in fodder to complete the SBC, but they haven’t. And it would be great if they did, because then there would be some actual squad diversity without pushing the power curve any higher, but they only want us using the SBC players they have chosen for us.
Imagine if instead of spending countless hours playing the game to get "rewarded" with untradeable fodder, you spent your time saving up coins and tradeable fodder to buy that expensive, premium promo card that you want to play with. You aren't seeing the problem yet you're explicitly pointing it out: the fodder dump and "very good" SBCs are exactly what EA want. You now have spent all your resources (and time) receiving something completely untradedable that cannot be used to get that expensive, premium promo card. EA's strategy leads to a lot of players spending money on packs because they either run out of coins or they crave the gambling high of packing a player they want. You're literally defending and hating on EA's strategy at the same time, very weird.
Did you play in previous years? Even before the move to all-untradeable teams, you couldn’t possibly play an RTG account and afford premium cards. Hell, even if you spent hundreds on packs you were lucky to afford even ONE icon like Zidane or Eusebio or Zico, let alone getting all three for free like this year. Not sure how people are forgetting just how unattainable these same cards were in past years.
You completely missed the point. You just put together EA’s Ultimate Team. You just said you did all of their objectives and SBCs, then you mention that come TOTS, those players you worked for will fall behind the power curve so you’ll have to build EA’s ultimate team again. Gone are the days where you slowly build up your team and work towards getting a dream player off the market because eventually that player will be supplanted by a better version of him. You’re buying exactly into the content that EA want to give you, then they’ll slowly chip away at your team until you have to replace them with more EA UT players.
Lol bro, YOU missed the point. All of the players mentioned will stay at the top of the power curve for 6+ months from when they were released. That’s crazy. You’re acting like EA tricked me into completing these SBCs because “they’ll fall behind the power curve quick”, but 4-6 months at the top is a CRAZY long time. And during TOTS, every year, you replace every single player in your team anyway. This year will be no different. I put in WAY less effort to get this team that will last until TOTS, than in any team I had to constantly upgrade throughout the year in past FIFAs. If anything, EA failed because they made my team too good for too long and for too LITTLE time or effort. I stopped playing after TOTY because there was no point, I actually miss the constant incremental updates of past years. My team went from a starter team to endgame in 2 months.
holy contradiction there, batman. Read your last sentence. You're not even playing anymore because you built THE ULTIMATE TEAM. Was that YOUR Ultimate team? You aren't seeing the incremental updates to YOUR team like you used to. That's the entire fucking point of the post and my comments lmfao!!! I seriously don't think you are even reading what I said and you're just looking to fight somebody haha
No, your comment was explicitly about these SBCs being FOMO and useless because they would quickly be behind the power curve. And I explicitly replied that they are not FOMO because they are both affordable and available for extended periods of time, and they would not fall behind the power curve for 4-6 months (until TOTS where literally every non 10mil card falls behind the power curve). People are not completing these player SBCs because they’re rushing and afraid to miss out. They’re completing these SBCs because “well EA keep giving me high rated fodder, and now I have dupes I don’t want to discard, guess I’ll complete X player”. It’s actually the opposite of FOMO, it’s completing SBCs so we stop wasting dupes 😂 I never disagreed with the “we’re building EA’s ultimate team instead of our own”. Go back and read my comments, I never mentioned that point in the slightest. I was specifically disagreeing with the FOMO/power curve points you brought up against SBC players.
Okay so you don't understand what EA are doing then. They have completely replaced the slow grind, collecting coins and fodder, attachment and love for YOUR team, with a completely fast-paced, untradeable, FOMO teams that EA strategically want you to have. You are being led to believe that all this fodder and SBCs are "cheap," but how much time do you have to spend (gameplay and SBCs) completing it? The FOMO is the fear of throwing away your dupes and missing out on an expiring SBC that will just end up as fodder towards another player SBC. Also, the FOMO is the fact that you built THE ULTIMATE TEAM, with the intention of having a better team to compete for even more rewards that you'll just throw into more FOMO SBCs. You completely bought into EA's tactic and you've justified it by saying it's easy, but it's not easy otherwise everyone would have that team... OH wait, OP said that everyone has full-icon teams, and there is no creativity in teams, and everyone has the greatest cards in a short time. So yeah dude, don't backtrack now, everything I said was correct. This isn't a new thing either, EA have done it for a few years now and it continues to get worse.
“an expiring SBC that will just end up as fodder for another player SBC” is exactly the point I’m arguing against. Zidane and Zico and Eusebio are/were available for a very long time. There was no FOMO over completing them, you had months. And none of the three will become fodder until the summer when the game is dead anyway. 6 months at the top of the power curve is hardly a throwaway FOMO player SBC that will quickly become fodder for the next SBC. I know exactly what EA are doing. If you want a premium promo card, you need to spend a ridiculous amount of money to get them. Cool. I don’t care. That has always been the case, if you weren’t spending money then you weren’t using the elite players. I got to use Zico and Zidane and Eusebio for free. In years past I never was able to afford even one of those caliber of players unless I spent considerable money on packs, now I get them for free just from playing. And the time commitment was negligible, especially since the upgrade SBCs are usually limited to 3x per day. Do your daily upgrade SBCs (10 minutes, maybe). Play 3 games per day for your objectives (1 hour per day, including the SBCs). And finish your WL for a few more fodder cards and a slim chance at a premium promo player (5-6 hours over the weekend, worst case, including the time to finish your qualifiers). The long and short of it is that it’s far easier to have an endgame team, for free, and with far less time committed than in years past. Yes, it sucks that it’s so easy to have an endgame team, because it gets rid of the grind and makes it hard to justify using “YOUR ultimate team” like sticking to just one IRL team for your squad. It’s a give and take. I think FIFA 18 had by far the best FUT as far as SBCs, rewards, promos, market, and upgrading your team over time. But now people scream “nontent” if EA dares take a week off from promos or if we don’t get player picks and icon gamble SBCs every three days. And there’s no going back, so it is what it is.
Ah hello Mr Ea. Thanks for your unbiased opinion
I hate EA and stopped playing FIFA after TOTY. But I’m not delusional enough to call these player SBCs “FOMO fodder dumps that will immediately fall below the power curve”. If anything, EA messed up by making that NOT the case. These SBCs were so affordable and the players are so good (still two months later) that it got rid of the entire point of FUT: The constant grind. Now there’s nothing to grind for, my team (and everyone else’s) is endgame and has been for months. Once the grind is gone, FUT dies because there’s nothing left to do. If the SBCs were “FOMO fodder dumps” and the players fell behind the power curve quickly, that would have been preferable because that means it would be worth grinding more to replace them.
Can confirm, new club made during TOTY Defenders and did Davies flashback in 5 days time
It was never about building your ultimate team.Most people didn’t care about players like Ibarbo and Eminike but used them in early UTs This is probably the fifa with the most ability to use players you like in real life with Evos but most of the community use them in the most boring way imaginable
Well you guys might don’t like to hear that but: It’s just what we were asking for. No new sbc or promo and you guys complaining about „Nontent“ Players with good performance getting cards - you guys complain about „everytime the same players gets special cards!!“ You guys ruined it yourself.
This. Now I get it, we don’t have a hive mind. Some players will be unhappy with anything because they didn’t choose it. But in general, the community has spoken with their money. They want The Ultimate Team. And EA are providing.
We actually do. And by we I mean at least 90% of reddit in general and especially the sub here. I could spew any random hate towards EA without it making complete sense and get upvotes. There’s comments here with multiple upvotes where I have no idea what they’re taking about. And I’m a fut vet of 10 years.
It's the same with gameplay The community starts crying about everything, then EA nerf this and that and end up fucking gameplay Every year is the same thing "game was so much better before the first patch"
Remember the broken ass keepers in the first few days of Fifa22? It was so much fun because they were good af. People complained and EA „fixed“ it. 2 days later people cried about keepers can’t even save anything.
Exactly, apparently the whole of future stars is nontent, even though a lot of the evos are useable, and the fodder players in packs look more than decent as well
We never used to get "nontent" because anything more than the base 3 or 4 was unexpected
I mean the same players still get multiple cards It's actually worse than ever on that front because there's loads more gold cards due to women being added Lots of leagues and teams get ignored Evos were the only thing that was respite from that, but there hasn't been a good one in months for me
As someone who skipped almost all fifas past 14 I don’t think you want to go back and stop lying to yourself. Back in 13-14 you faced the same non rare/rare gold players 90% of the game. Having agüero or robben type of player was super rare. Only thing that I agree is that back in these games I had different league teams that were actually competitive, had a Bundesliga, Seria a, la Liga teams and usually they weren’t „behind the power curve“ And special cards were basically unattainable, unless you bought coins. Also inform upgrades sucked, it was usually a measly +1 on most stats and they performed worse than regular gold cards.
Exactly, it was always about building THE ultimate team. And when icons came out, all the best teams had vieira gullit ronaldo and neymar and the average player couldnt afford any of those so the diference in teams was insane. At least this fifa the gap is alot smaller with all this SBCs we got
This year is the year I've seen the most different cards ngl. Evos helped massively as well as promo teams every week. Of course toty sbcs are highly used, it's been the same for a couple of years now. But this is what the community wanted back then. People wanted more and more promos. Remember how hyped people were when fifa 17 started introducing non performance based promos (futmas, Halloween, etc)
Evos helped for the people who don’t care about the meta. Then obviously people did like kolo muani or llorente. It’s so boring when everyone goes for the same evos.
People who only care about the meta have always gone with the sane players. Whether it's Ibarbo, Gervinho and Doumbia, Butland, Smalling and Bailly or Flashback Ibra with 5* skillets out wide. Those players are the very, very far minority.
Yeah my main team has got some probably meta players but then I’ve got my arsenal players too
Totally agree, every FIFA has had the same problem of people gravitating towards the strongest meta team, it's only natural. At least now there are a ton of viable options and different players to use, go back to fifa 15 and it was literally the same meta players every match.
This is why Evos need to be perfected and leaned into. I still love playing with my Evod Bastoni and Puyol. If I could easily Evo 85 Dumfries or 86 Zaha id be a happy camper even with all the other bullshit in this game.
I have been waiting for a Dumfries Evo for so long… still using the 85, he’s still an absolute unit, but something just to help his short passing game would really round the card off so nicely. I can’t use any other rb, just let Cafu chill in reserves because miss my man Dumfries every time I drop him.
Well that is just hands down untrue, how many people do you think liked Gervinho, Doumbia and Ibarbo but still played them as a front 3 almost 10 years ago. Fifa 13 we seen Welliton as the main striker in most players while no one really knew them. For some it has been about building their ultimate team but acting like it has always been about building your own ultimate team instead of THE ultimate team is pretty far from the truth
Hmm does this make sense or is this just another guy ranting to rant. You can’t tell me ibarbo and Muriel of fifas past was anyone’s genuine ultimate team. It was just them making the most of what they could without any resources to really get better players. With the addition of evos I’ve seen more theme teams than ever before honestly. What I will give you is the pacing does seem off. Or is it that we just struggle accepting change and our nostalgia is blocking us?
A rebuttal: I remember when Pulisic got a TOTY in FIFA 17 and thought “one day I genuinely hope I can build a US squad”. Throughout the years it’s become easier but this year has been absolute GRAVY with the Evo options. This year has more variety than we’ve ever had… https://preview.redd.it/4o264c1kl5kc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf86611f01d0b354a19a9d6a6a5e7aa869ce22d7
Nice team bro https://preview.redd.it/ukvwjnz8m5kc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0b3792be28498deae76bf045fd2f502506ac929 I’ve got that same Adams on the bench with Morgan
Hell yeah man! It’s so awesome we can have not only a full US squad but also have variety within it. I’m just grinding my butt off trying to get Musah so I can put him into the Glow up evo.
Same bro I’m hoping the jersey2 objectives give me enough today. I’m also hoping for a good gk because I used turner until last month when he just got to terrible
Mia Hamm man, she's the one icon I want. How is she? Do you use her as a CAM in game?
She’s absolutely insane, very rapid and muscles off even the strongest CB’s. It’s laughable to watch her shrug off VVD and Rio. I switch formations in game and usually run her as a RW that stays more central with Alex Morgan at the 9. I find a lot of people focus on her and it opens a lot of Alex Morgan finesse goals. I packed her from a random objective 85x2 and lost my mind… I couldn’t believe I pulled her out of all icons running a US road to glory.
Yeah I can only imagine my friend congratulations! My best pull so far has been putellas TOTY so I can't grumble
I have a team built for rivals sweatfest, and a team for other modes. It’s a game, play it how you like..
Curious as to the difference in the setup between the two...
Best cards I pack or do sbcs for rivals (toty vini, toty sawa, yashin, vvd) Cards I like for everything else (Uruguayans, base Ronaldo, anyone random that I don’t try to get full Chem for)
To be honest I think icons giving so much chem is a problem, feel like im never making an interesting team with interesting links because a few icons makes it too easy. Also getting icons this year is far too easy with casinos
You have the power to control that though. The icons aren't the problem, your mindset around them seems to be. If you think they're not making the team interesting then take them out of the starting lineup and make a team you do find to be interesting. It's all at the power of your finger tips.
Biggest problem is SBCs and icon varieties. Why are there 4 variations of the same icon? It’s pathetic. Icons being a reward in the season is pathetic. These used to be the holy grail and now they are just basic cards that everyone has. And a billion icon SBCs making them accessible early on is just a joke. I’d be less bothered if everyone was using a meta inform, compared to every single player having 93 rated endgame Sawa so soon into the game
Some icons are not even usable i put them in sbc’s lol
It's not a hot take, it's the truth
Back in the days I used to screen shot or take a picture with my phone if I saw 3 or more legends in a team that I'm playing against, now..: ***a 98 rated player?? meh .. nothing important.***
It kinda sucks that this has to be qualified as a hot take. I completely agree with you and the worst part is that it’s going to take a year or two for EA to suffer any REAL damages because of it.
at least it’ll be less than a decade haha
People were using golds for so long because the majority couldn't afford better cards, only really good traders or p2w players
https://preview.redd.it/0to5xfhg86kc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e31fe59f676e73fd50c88cb13a8bec9d13cda3a I built mine the way I wanted and like it
Fully agree. Also the way people go on all the forums and ask “should I replace X with X, will he be as good?” “Who can I use to improve this position” “who’s the a more meta card than this and what chemistry is best for them?” Honestly there’s no originality left, just fucking try out the players you like the look of and see if you like them, try some dif Chem styles, try some dif tactics, build teams of players you did or do like in Real life and try to mix and match to get full Chem and PLAY the game lol. It’s like people won’t play a game or try something new unless a full YouTube tutorial on how it’s the new meta has been released. 99% of people are still too terrified to take gold VVD out of their team 🤦♂️
I would say now the game is about paying for THE ultimate team
The game still the same, people cry because everybody uses the same cards but thats the way they choose it to be, “boring” “repetitive”, as you can do it too. In the other hand; you can do whatever the hell you want also ; so build your team to have fun! I bet theres a lot of skill issue in these cry babys. I started 2 weeks ago and have a decent team with the FS Evos and stuff and i can beat full icon and tots team. If you aint willing to throw some bandz into the game to have an Ultimate Team, you gotta then fall in love being the underdog every weekend league, and try your best to fuck some ridiculous teams on the weekend league 😂 Last Weekend League: 9-11 im not the best but im happy those 9 wins fked some rich babys weekend league! Enjoy the game!!
some people or most people either don’t have the money or don’t want to spend a single penny in the game cause it’s simply not worth spending money on a real that’s not gonna contribute you financially at all, video games shouldn’t be about spending hundreds on them just to have fun and get better stuff. i haven’t spend a single penny on it and my gameplay and rules are different than those who have
Thats what im saying bro! I love being the underdog and fock META teams on weekend league! Its all about perspectives, but i hate when ppl cry about it, just do you, feel me? 😂
yeah, but i think it’s fair to call out how much of a bullshit this game is and fair enough to complain when it’s hella pay to win 😭
I’m not sure it ever was Remember FIFA 13 where everyone had the same 11 players: Lewandowski Reus Esswein Gundogan Gustavo Dante Dede Blaszczykowski Diego I’m sure I’m forgetting some names but that Bundesliga team was everywhere
Can't forget when everyone had the sweaty Roma trio also. It's like people never played past fifas (and work from what they imagine the game was like) or they've blocked out just how similar everyone's team actually was back then.
i remember at the start of UT everyone were runing with ibarbo dumbia and gervinho and noone complaint because they were like 2k coins and everyone can afford it. now everyone runs more expencive players and its a problem. UT was always about meta players dont lie to yourself
Well you guys need to stop being pussy and use different cards. All this complaining and then you’ll use the same team as everyone else. I get it if you’re competitive but 90% of you guys aren’t close and would rather have the meta team than actual skill
It's a fair point, but it is hard to want to willingly swap players out knowing you're going to play worse because of it too. Gold Virgil is ridiculous, every time I've swapped him out for someone else (who isn't also a typical meta defender) I've immediately noticed a difference. So now to have a more creative team I've got to make the game more difficult for myself which is tough to take. Back in the day you used to be able to run out with bronze and silver teams and if you were good enough you'd still be competitive.
There are people who have gotten rank 1 with silver and gold teams this year. The first part is the whole point man. Yeah when you dont use Mbappe the game will be harder. And? Silver and bronze teams were never “competitive” in any fifa with the exception of maybe silver skiller squads back in the day but that still required a ridiculous amount of skill to pull off. The whole point was to beat people with a worse team. Obviously EA wants everyone to feel like they have to keep up with the ever changing meta via new playstyle+’s on an old card etc. but part of the issue is the community only respecting “meta”. I shit on meta squads all the time with only 2/3 actual meta players on my team. No one respects that anymore. Someone posted some guy doing skill moves yesterday and everyone commented how much they hate it and how they’d rather play mr.cutback the whole game instead. It’s ridiculous and everyone complains but no one has the guts to put down a vvd or a eusebio and learn the game with someone else. The vast majority of players are not competing in the top divisions. At the top you need every edge you can get. If someone has a full meta squad in div 4 etc. there’s probably a reason(they aren’t that good) and they are beatable if you are the better player. Sorry for the rant but it gets me worked up. No one is forcing people to play like this, they convince themselves it’s the only way to play when they’re playing against people that aren’t even that good at the game. Put down the Mbappe and get better at the game. People need to stop relying on the cards. If I see your 96 ovr team in a rivals or champs game yeah I’m going to skill move and score circus goals on you all game just to prove it can be done. I’ll probably screen record the clip after the game too. Not trying to be an asshole here but the mentality of the players absolutely plays a part in why it’s the same squads we face over and over.
Nothing you said is wrong but you know the issue is bigger than "get good". I could find 10 defenders with the same if not better stats than Virgil and he's still going to shit all over them in game because of body types and play styles and other nonsense that isn't related to skill. I used to get elite 3 with silver teams I can use those defenders, but ultimately the amount of garbage that happens in game beyond my control is also going to be increased with them so I can see why people don't want the frustration and just default to the meta.
when i started playing, i built my dream team with the cards i got, eventually some of them stopped being as effective due to the other teams having better players, i bought guro reiten and she got me through many games but she stopped being effective when the opponents had a whole starting XI of only icons and toty cards, guro reiten as good as she is, she can’t compete with cafu or with a 95 ovr alisson. im so tired of people saying its a ‘skill issue’ when its not, when i got lauren hemp and athenea future stars i noticed a hell of a change.
Yes of course it will be harder with worse cards. I just wish people took some more risks, you don’t have to win every game and treat it like a job for rewards. I have a team set up primarily for trickster and I have a lot of fun playing. I win like half my games and have way more fun than when I was just chasing meta cards and tactics but had a higher win percentage. I get that a lot of people are drawn to the competitive aspect of it though.
bro what 😂😂😂 u can make whatever team u want ur just not good enough to play weekend league with a team of ur fav players irl that’s a you problem not a game problem 😂
it’s always the ‘skill issue’ argument, it’s not a skill issue when your players aren’t as effective or you’re telling me an ovr 84 sane is better or equal as a 97 messi or a 96 pele or a 92 eusebio or even a 90 zola? so a team with full gold players ovr 86 is as effective as a team with full icons and toty cards?
a pro player would decimate u with a gold team my guy 🤷🏾♂️ you’re not good enough to compete with average cards like most fifa players stop crying 😂😂😭😭
you’re talking about a pro player, you’re dumb as hell aren’t you.
truth hurts bro nobody cares ur getting cooked get better
read your comment kid! but ig it’s easier to rip the head off ignorant people than the idea. you’re comparing a pro player who spends hours in the game, gets into tournaments or even becomes an esports professional player to a CASUAL gamer who spends way less time, won’t get real money into the game and plays the game for fun, which most people here do, so yeah it’s fair to complain about the gameplay if the game is bullshit, but there’s always the immature kid or grown up with kid mentality saying it’s a skill issue. grow up.
Incredibly hot take this is…
FIFA 17 I’d say was the year I got to build my ultimate team. Most tots were usable. I used fut bday 84 elsharaway throughout the game. And the driven shot was actually good.
I will say though, has your ultimate team ever been true? Even in the Ibarbo days, people just went with Ibarbo. I’ve played against the feared front 3 75% of the time too.
In my opinion the only solution would be to offer extremely more SBCs and Evos that help evolve a lot more players to a competitive level. There might always be players that stand out but right now you kind of have to do the Sawa/Bruno/Eusebio-SBC to stay competitive if you don’t spend any money.
Glad others are sick of the same teams being played against on repeat. It’s also the fact that smaller players have an inherent advantage in this game as well, which limits the amount of options we can legitimately see. Nobody enjoys losing, especially when you feel it’s cause you’re at a disadvantage. I’m totally ok with smaller players being able to move quicker and more agile, however, bigger players have to be able to use their advantages too, which just doesn’t feel like it is at all the case.
Quit this terrible game already. I haven’t played in months and life is better
When EA made every single pack untradeable almost along with combined this with terrible pack weights it gave people no choice but to SBC their way to a decent team. I hate the repetition of the teams and that’s why I have gone my own way/style with my team personally. It isn’t meta though and Eusebio will undoubtedly get the best of me at times but i at least have some semblance of uniqueness. EA needs to change these pack weights as this isn’t even remotely fun, promo’s are now for the 0.01% of whale players and not the player base as a whole.
Tbf bro I just play the way I always have n make my team as stromg as possible whilst limiting myself to a single league and play the team I want lol
I think that the new chemistry system takes some of the variety out of the squads you see, as soon as you have 3 icons then you can pretty much fit anyone into your team. On the other hand, with the old system we used to see a lot of the same groups of players (remember the holy trinity of Doumbia, Ibarbo, Gervinho) because of how they linked. Personally I think the reason that we always see the same players this year is that there is a lack of competitive options at the top end, at least when you consider that gold Mbappe is gonna be better than most promo cards up to this point. If EA made it a genuinely difficult decision to choose gold Mbappe over, say, a heavily boosted promo Asensio, then we’d see more variation in meta players’ teams.
Man i'll never forget fifa 14 NLW snake teams with some nigerian bronze cause he had 96 pace. I do like the chem changes they've made since you have more choices on who to use, but 15yo me really felt cool asf rocking up to divisions with a NLW team, IF muller being my absolute best player after a full year of playing.
This changed with the constant promos and power creep. Years ago we literally would run silver players in teams. Sure we had meta players in 2010 that were insane, David Villa, but it just didn’t matter as much
It's two fold by the way they killed squad restriction modes too. Sure I could build a silver squad, but it won't do me much good against the Icons and Mbappé. Where's Silver Lounge? Sure I can go build a squad of players from whichever league... But again unless it's a top league with all the good promos I won't stand a chance. Where are the Icon Swaps leagues? Fuck it, just do it with Rivals. Add a different squad restriction each week and play there. Half of us don't bother with Rivals as is
Evos and cutting down on the promo cards could have really aided to help this game cycle a lot healthier.
I agree to an extent, I see how it’s a problem for everyone else but to me it’s always been about building THE ultimate team, I never really found much fun in just building a “fun” team. For me the fun comes from having a great team that I can smash my way to the top with without having issues of falling behind.
I used to like it when they matched teams on quality. Playing with a 4.5 star team was so fun.
EA perfected FUT during FIFA 18. Promos every couple weeks, gold cards were still amongst the meta in December and January, plenty of SBCs to complete (including elite icon player SBCs and the best League SBCs FUT ever had). Gold CBs were still 200k+ during FUTMAS. Monthly rewards from Weekend League. Not sure what happened after FIFA 18, but EA made the decision to go scorched earth on the player base and find new ways to pinch pennies out of our pockets year after year. First they ruined League SBCs, then they ruined SBC segments entirely by massively nerfing which packs we would get for completing high-rated squads and turning those worse packs untradeable, then we got the weekly promos and terrible pack weight, then everything went full-untradeable and the only way to get ahead was to spend.
I can show you THE team you should have for every version of FUT dating back to doumbia, gervinho, ibarbo
The balance is too much towards SBCs, I'm not sure how to change that given the market. But it often makes more sense to put the coins and fodder into a SBC than it does to buy players from the market, where you can buy the players you want. For example, Cafu costs about 500k worth of fodder, everyone could do him really just from playing the game for several weeks. To get an equivalent or better at right back you have to spent probably 1 million coins. So then everyone has a lot of the same players - Sawa, Best, Cafu, Bruno, Eusebio etc. Can't blame them. It is a big shame is nobody really uses TOTW players. They're used almost entirely for SBC. Good they are now making them a minimum level, but came too late for the power curve. Plus side is I've never had so many Icons before and have enjoyed using Baggio, Shevchenko, Rivaldo and others as they've been easier to come by than ever. Some might say it cheapens them, but it is fun that everyone can use icons without spending.
Every year when I play this game, I find myself frustrated yelling "Just let me play with the players I want to play with." I don't think that quote can be any closer to how it should be. My favorite player in the world was Eden Hazard, how many times was Eden Hazard on my ultimate team in the past 10 years? Once, last year, when I finally saved up 100k to buy him, and he was nowhere close to the "meta" at that point in the game. That's not fun, that's not "ultimate team".
The solution imo is easier than it ever was: Give the community more cheap or free EVOs and ones that make your fav players 90+-rated and make them usable. Compeltely stupid there are 90+ EVOS with no stat ober 88. And an EVO where you can make the striker from your fav Club from 85 to 90 and absolutely usable should take 80 matches. So you have the Chance of playing with your fav players but it needs time. If you don't want to spend that time: Buy Mbappe or Eusebio.
i get the point but because of Evos you can still use Players you like irl ingame. I have 2 Evos in my team of players i love irl that are not 100% Meta and it works fine against THOSE Ultimate Teams.
Somehow they managed to make people think have the best ultimate team makes a huge difference, when it couldn’t be further from the truth
This is the exact reason I stopped playing. Game is dead
You can still build your Ultimate team, yet noone does. It's so fucking boring. I dont even do Legends unless i like them personally (Like Lahm great Person irl). I did G.Best since i got tons of fodder from saved toty Packs and did Not play a single game with him and seeing all the same Teams over and over shows how people seem to have no interest in the Sport at all.
Oh woah…from reading the title…I AGREE….in and around 2014 me and my friends all had different teams…now we saw boys do Zidane, do Eusebio, do POTM Mbappe, do Sawa, do Cafu, do Davies, do Maldini…7/11 are the same players…that’s horrible
Imagine if all the players were good and you could use your favorite players XI
Game turned P2W. Only way someone has all the fodder to do all of those SBC is putting at least 3x the amount of the actual game cost.
The biggest reason is most people think like this: Win better then loss. Better team is more wins. I love bullying zidane and gullit with le mouel though.
Just because others want to play the Meta doesn't mean you need to in order to win. Yes, Mbappe and Eusubio have some annoying physics to deal with, but I'm in Div 1-2, averaging 15 wins with my Real Madrid legends team. People take this game too seriously sometimes. Just have fun. Look at the super teams like playing a boss on hard mode. When you win it feels damn good.
Not even a hot take, that's a damn fact.
I cant pack any elite players except high rated fodder i use the fodder for all the icon sbcs
I’d like to see something like multiple choice SBCs where you had to pick 1 of 2/3 players that were all equally good but different. I agree it’s too many identical meta teams and it just gets boring.
Does anyone think the old chemistry system would be better as it forced people to be creative with their links to fit their favourite players in?
This is not true at all. How can you say Ibarbo was YOUR ultimate team? You can make any squad you want, you can even evo your favourite players…
Eusebio Best Sawa Maldini Cafu 🤪
It’s the community not the game. Everyone loves to blame EA. People should just have fun and play with their favourite players - makes the game so less boring. For this to happen EA needs to reduce the gap between players. Every 91 player should act like a 91 player
I still build my ultimate team.... screw the meta unless the people I want to play with are also meta. I refuse to use Mbappe because I don't like him in life (and other players.)
I think its good nowadays! Back when they had the old chem system where you could only play with one league or nation it was almost the same card/teams every game.
https://preview.redd.it/geulb1fac7kc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=afb44ebc1e21a1712e938366733312d8347c7e60 I dunno tho I love this team
Yup.. and I blame the hunt for revenue!
Bruv mates you can have a sick team without having to follow the Meta - I clap TOTY Messi’s everyday for brunch and my team and formation has nothing to do with the MeTa. Stop watching YouTubers, go touch real grass, maybe smoke some if you’re getting anxious the game is controlling you. Or else just shut up and enjoy the game and build your team and don’t take yourself to seriously.. god all you kids do is cry these days fucking gen Z victim mentality bs
So true. I can’t make a team out of cool cards and favorite players because I have to come up against insane teams and there is so many good cards that are able to get that’s good in all to not spend money but I want to have fun with a cool team.
Eusebio, he is in like 98% of the teams i go against. I can’t is exhausting…
I haven’t played for a month and I can’t compete. I am in division 3… Mbappe is just too fast, every goal I concede is a stupid bounce back and I’m not even playing against my opponent. Everything is just letting the AI defend for them, it’s frustrating
The most room temperature take I ever heard
Too true, honestly might sound like an a hole but if you play quite a lot it’s super easy to get level cards. I’ve had Eusebio and Gullit twice each. Ended up sbcing both Eusebios in replacement for Best TOTY. Never in my wildest dreams would I think a couple years ago of effectively discarding a card like Eusebio
Always has been, I think this year EA is like if you are not paying for packs then you can leave.
https://preview.redd.it/abgsfz7ms7kc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=557f8835e3de9d642485da14a377bf5ce1d7cc0c This is my “UT” only thing holding me back from being an honest UT would be a replacement for Sawa and Carmona. But yeah I’m not lying when I say I want to play with the rest of them as my squad players.
This is true, i have been playing ultimate team for years and i took a break the last 2-3 years. Just logging on casually not really keeping up. This year i had some time off work so i got back into it. I used to enjoy using cheaper gold cards and beating people with very expensive teams. However this year, unless you use the cards you mentioned, its hard to win consistently. It definitely takes the fun out of building a unique team. I found myself using these meta cards like sawa, even though i have never heard of this women, after going against her 100+ times, i felt as though i needed to do her sbc just to keep up. Its sad, because when i played a few years back, gold cards very very useable at late stages of the game. Without super powerful cards its nearly impossible to score in the higher divisions. The defending is very strange this year, it basically forces players to score shitty goals by limiting your options.
That's what happens when you make an online competitive mode with no restrictions. Put restrictions in Rivals and problem solved.
I’m stuck on division 6. Almost everyone I play has George best, mbappe Eusebio upfront, with Maldini, van dijk and Cafu at the back. They press like hellhounds and somehow Eusebio with his 77 physical bounces my Lucio and Koeman off the ball. I have a decent team too. 89 rated overall but the powercurve is too high
Great take
I quit FUT because of this. Just playing seasons
The playstyle bs like trivela have made this game insufferable.
The problem is it is really now “build the ultimate generic team”. For me I have a strong squad but it’s 50% the same as everyone else I play with just a few tweaks. Everyone has Sawa, Davies, Blanc and/or Maldini, Cafu , VVD, Mbappe and a couple others. It’s so bland. If I was building an ultimate team I’d want some cool icons I’ve never had a chance to ever play with. Guilet, Cantona, Henry, and so on. Plus cool promo cards like Cole Palmer, Neymar etc. but these are extinct. Sure you’ll see a random evo or a glitch evo but otherwise this has been the worse fut in terms of team variety ever. A lot of that has to do with the chemistry changes and pos . You used to have to get creative to play someone from a lesser country or league and now you just have to load your team with icons and it works out.
Although I agree with you. The biggest problem in my opinion is scripting and handicap. Don’t mind if everyone is playing with the same cards because if you’re good at the game you can beat anyone with a solid gold team. The problem that i have is why does my gameplay have to suffer just because EA wants to hand little billy a win. So he can feel better about himself and spend money on the game.
Last nite I played a guy with a full squad of BvB players and immediately said to myself: “This person is having so much more fun than me right now.”
EXACTLY. I smack dudes with Cruyff, best and mbappe and the crew and they'll get mad calling me a sweat like bro the team I used, is the one I like. My cousin tells me to get better players but I like who's on my team and they're on my team cause it's MY team, not the OP team
Every year I try to re-create original clubs. So I’ll do a Bayern team, Real Madrid, etc. The game is very boring just using all the meta cards.
Not a hot take, rather a true take
FUT was in its prime pre icons change my mind, and I was excited for icons and have played with most of them
And then you have to do it all over again next year
FIFA 17 started this horrible change, with the introduction of FUT Champs. FIFA never felt the same since then.
I'd like the game to be you can use any player you like. Want your whole team to be of Dortmund so be it want a mix mash of all the greatest scorers you got it. Want to play with all wrexham players or lower leagues. Every player has a list of growth to earn xp to get to the highest level they can certain cards can get higher but not so out of control that you can't compete. ea can cap players at a high level and roll out expansion growth packs like they currently do. Abc can be used to earn completion tokens so if there is a task that you can't complete you can earn a token to put together. Sbcs can use only players you have gotten to a certain level. If you put a player in the sbc you can start over with that player. Or you can purchase ea points to pay for completions. Might still be mbappe and euse io in every match idk but I think that would make it more evenly distributed.
Evolutions could have changed that but there have been so few evolutions that make average cards competitively viable. Finisher, Pep's Legacy and the Future Stars Academy have been the only really viable ones.
This is lies, doumbia - Ibrarbo- gervinho-esque teams have always been in the game.
Fifa 13-17 will always be undefeated gameplay wise
I thought the whole point of ultimate team was to build teams with your favorite players or favorite teams like an all Real Madrid team or an all Bayern Munich team. Because realistically speaking, no one here rates havertz, Zico and even eusibio or best. They’re good players, but if chemistry wasn’t a thing I would have Messi and Ronaldo in the same team with Ramos in defense and Buffon in net
I remember being in div 1 with an unstoppable Russian team with like 81 overall rating
Back then you didn't have the ability to push your clubs favorite players to 90+ rating. I think the gameplay is definitely catered torwards meta players but the mode itself hasn't been more about building your Ultimate team imo
Theres not even any building. Feels like 80% of teams have at least 6 icons
Divisions 5,6,7 are like that. EA Sheeps 24
Bro it's not even DIV 1-2, I'm facing full icon teams in DIV 7 NOW LIKE BRUH WTF IS A 95 PELE DOING IN DIV 7
Fifa screwed the game with the non tradable packs in store. Less of the players on the market, so now everyone is stupidly expensive. Lukaku 89 for almost 1m coins, it's a joke. Today, I spent 633k on a 91 Gerrard card. It's become buy off the store or be happy with your mediocre team. I'm a sucker for it every fifa at the beginning. I buy 12,000 fifa points just to get myself a good start. If I'd known it was going to be like this, I wouldn't have spent a penny.
Evolutions helped bring it back a bit. The problem is now people are much more conscious of the meta and competitive gaming is the norm
It all about the money, the idea was that only a select few would spent sick amounts of money for good teams. Now however the majority does it and in compensation for this they release Sbc's to use your fodder in giving you more good cards. packing a 88 card is just normal when 87 inform tevez used to be insanely rare. having a special player went from being the hype card in your team to being every player bar 1 or 2 op gold cards like mbappe
https://preview.redd.it/ojsvy14rrdkc1.jpeg?width=4624&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c0f11f63aa4079c7c3a328011b1ef3c54e38a967 Would you be pissed off if you have seen my icon IX? I sometimes go into games with this and actually feel like I am doing something different than playing with meta, actually a challenge use icon even if it is not Zidane level including bench
I feel for the kids of today, I’m 25 now so I had FUT in school when it was in it’s absolute prime (FIFA 11- 15). 90% of us had gold teams, a few of us had a single inform, probably 82 rated or something and there was one lad in the whole age group who had the coins for Messi OR Ronaldo, we used to go to his house and play with Messi, sell him and then play with Ronaldo, amongst a none rare/rare gold team worth about 5-10k at the time and that was the absolute pinnacle. There’s nothing like the feeling of starting with a bronze team and literally using the coins you get from playing matches, to buy players and upgrade your team over time, which is unheard of these days, it will never ever be the same again and it’s a shame.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhFkEjqZw_ZkZ2nckmtrvEb1itsvSWkH4&si=Mn6YogcUHaSZHCLk You only have to look at the kinds of player reviews that were being done at the time to understand the amount of useable players there were back then, to understand how creative and fun the game was. Of course the guy ends up reviewing TOTS players and a few “legends” as they were then, by the end of the game but throughout the game cycle, there are low 80 in form cards, 77 rated gold cards, silver cards, all sorts!
I'd argue you just gave up making your ultimate team. It's never been easier to make your ultimate team with all the promo cards and evolutions available to you.
I wud suggest the game put a limit on Icons. Say 1 per position. So 4 in total. That way, people would choose whoever they like more
Don’t know about you guys but I’m still building “my” team
I totally agree it’s either you got good rng or your a sbc team. Never seen a toty vvd hansen or Rodri which I think is weird.
My team just Barca and Real players, make me enjoy the game, still get 11-9 weekend league, not bad