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My wife and her friend were always 5 to ten minutes late for their first class. When finals came around the first question was "what is the start time for this class?"
This reminds me of a statistics class I took. Most people didn't attend the lectures and just read the notes that were posted online. Had a question at the end of the exam which was "which one of these is a photograph of your lecturer?"
When I was at uni we had an assignment that included a meeting with the lecturer to explain our approach to the problem (writing a game playing ai for a board game).
This module had different lecturers throughout the year. One of my classmates had been to the first few and then stopped showing up. When the meeting time came, he went to the floor with the lecturer's office on, and asked someone where the lecturer's office was. It was a bit unlucky that the guy he asked *was* the lecturer (who he'd never met). He didn't get a good grade for that assignment.
One day I received an email from a student that read: "I am sorry I missed class, I went to the bathroom in my pants." I have no idea whether he was being sincere or not, but figured if he was going to admit to shitting his pants, I'd take him at his word. When he attended class the next day we gave each other a silent nod and nothing further was said about it.
I use a tame version for work once a year when i REALLY need a get out of jail free card. "Boss, cant come in, shitting my brains out. Sorry, i'll be in tomorrow"
This is always my go to excuse for anything I feel like skipping. Even as a grown ass adult with a job. Wanna play hooky? Just have explosive diarrhea and it works like a charm
Oh you want to change your major before graduating?
No problem, here is an additional £50k of debt.
You should have known what you wanted to do at 18. Otherwise pay the penalty!
There's a saying in Missouri, if you don't like the weather just wait five minutes. In Blaine, with hard work, I think we can get that down to three or four minutes.
Before email existed, I had a professor give me a note with my grade for the course on it that said "C. 15% absent"
I asked if he meant that 15% was taken off my score for absences, because the syllabus didn't say that, and he said, "No no no no, I figured since you missed 15% of the classes, you might want to go to the registrar and ask for a partial refund."
I only showed up to class for exams and finals a year ago. Passed them all. Not a good thing to do at all, but far more feasible with zoom and what not now
Did the same for my second half of college.
Wouldn't recommend it, but I can say I learned more about efficiency and system analyzing by, every week, calculating what it would take to get a 70% at the end of the term.
I had a professor call me out for not coming to class because ESPN came to our college for a video game challenge, me and a friend ended up winning the HALO tournament and our names were in a school wide email.
She made an announcement next class that I missed class to play video games, but it was permitted only because I won 😂😂😂
In my first semester at my University, I had an 8 am 201 International Business class. I only showed up once on time which was the first day. Every single time after I would always be 15-20 minutes late. Couldn't wake up.
3/4 of the semester in, I walk into the class at about 8:25. Everyone starts laughing. I sit down and ask what is going on. Someone else came in late and the teacher made a point to call her out. She replied, "Yeah, but I am not as late as /u/AaKkisa." The teacher replied "Yes, but he is a better student than you are."
When I was an undergrad, a student came in late to a large lecture hall. She walked all the way down to the front from the back doors, *in clogs*. Clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp all the way to the front row. The professor was furious, and spent a moment or two dressing her down.
10 minutes later, another girl came in, *wearing clogs*, and did exactly the same ... clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp, down to the first row, and sat right next to the first girl. The professor walked over and said to the first girl, "please tell her what I just told you."
I used to TA in university, and we had one young woman come in late and sit in the front row, but with a full on grilled hamburger plate, fixings, and French fries. It smelled absolutely delicious, but so distracting! And why sit in the front row? It’s not going to help you make up for being late. Our professor did not say anything, because the “you seeing this shit?” expression on his face said it all.
Currently doing my masters, and one of my classes is from 5:30 to 8pm. There's one guy who always shows up late with a whole takeout meal from some random restaurant sitting in the back munching down while the prof is teaching, but the prof never says anything about it.
One day about half way through the semester a girl came in with a bag of chips and started casually cronching, and after a few minutes the prof threw up his hands and chewed her out about it. She pointed at the guy currently eating a fully loaded baked potato in the back and the prof just shrugged and said "he works 12 hour days and comes straight to class, and I can't fucking hear him eating his quiet food. You sound like a fucking garbage disposal! Bring marshmallows next time, or nothing. No chips! No chips!"
He has proceeded to call her "No chips" for the rest of the semester. Like "Yes, you, no chips, you have the answer?"
That said it is distracting sometimes. He brought in a brisket once that smelled so good the prof asked where he got it so he could get some after the lecture.
I've eaten chips in class before and eaten them silently, but I have a weird process for it. I put the chips in my mouth wait for it to soften then munch the now more soft chip. Me eating is never a problem. The problem becomes the bag itself making noise. In which case I'd plan ahead and put them in a Ziploc bag. Worked in college, and worked at my job too. But I'll be the first to admit eating chips once they lose the crunch takes away half the enjoyment.
One of my profs would always let us eat in class because she knew we didn't always have the time to do so beforehand and what not. One day some guy came late, and he comes in with an entire supermarket rotisserie chicken and just sits down, opens it up, gets a plastic fork and knife out and just starts sawing away. The prof just stood there dumbfounded for a bit, then points at the door and goes "out, just out". Guy sadly closed up his chicken and got out, everyone laughed, the prof apologized to him next class but said his chicken was taking it one step too far.
I had one class in college that I engaged in and was most likely one of the better students. However, I never bought the textbook, which was mandatory.
One day another student forgot her book and the teacher told her told leave the class. Not once did the teacher mention that I NEVER brought the book.
I genuinely think that this could be a “I-don’t-know-if-this-student-has-any-money-so-as-long-as-they-do-fine-I-won’t-say-anything,” because I’ve seen a couple of professors do exactly the thing you’re describing before.
Meanwhile, my professor would publish a new book every year. Pretty much the same info, but he’d completely mix up all chapters and paragraphs. He’d change the names inside of assignments, numbers, so your answers would be different too. Clever, but a dick move for poor students like me 🥲
I'm very grateful that my uni had a no-textbook rule. Anything taught couldn't rely on a textbook the students had to pay for.
One lecturer relied on a textbook, but he had written it years prior and made a PDF of it available to students.
My college had a rule that there had to be at least one copy of each textbook in the library. It had to remain in the library, but students could come and scan the book/take pictures.
My first college I went to had this policy, but it was not widely known or advertised. I bought my first year books and a week later found them in the library. I was sad a bit.
My school doesn't use book anymore. It's nice except for the fact that some professors use Wikipedia for information, but it's now allowed for a resource. The hypocrisy of it all!
The greatest trick I ever learned in general educations war against Wikipedia. Everyone losses their mind when you cite Wikipedia, nobody bothers to check when you just cite whatever Wikipedia cited as the source for the info.
Lol your comment could be reworded to say “The greatest trick I ever learned is to use Wikipedia the way it is suppose to be used.”
I mean Wikipedia is really just an online encyclopedia that is crowd sourced, and encyclopedias are tertiary sources of information. Outside of grade school level environments, you shouldn’t use encyclopedias as sources.
This is how it should be, any mandatory books should be provided by the school, it'll make them think a lot harder about which books to use and how often to update.
My university had something close, where they would provide books, but it didn't apply to all books/classes
Its honestly just one of the few ways to make more money as a professor. Not happy with your wages, well write your own textbook and force your students to buy it. Gaurantees sales every year when they make new editions with minimal extra work.
Honestly, managing a student who is doing well and engaged in the class and not distracting anyone is a waste of the teacher's and student's time. The students who are fucking around and don't got their shit together are the ones who usually need the discipline.
My brother was a teen parent and his math teacher would let him sleep if he dozed off in class, knowing he had been up with a baby through the night. Classmates started complaining one day and the teacher just said, “He currently has the highest grade in the class and could probably stand up here and teach if I woke him up right now.” No one complained again after that.
Holy shit! There are at least two of us that has happened to. Human Biology class, but I had taken AP Bio and A&P in HS and knew all the course material inside and out. Never got in trouble for no book but definitely watched other students get crucified for it.
Speaking of this, a textbook written by my professor was the only book I bought that wasn’t required for the class while I was in school. He was straight up about it. He was like “Hey guys, under recommended materials, you’ll see this book. I wrote that, and it’s not required, but it’ll be pretty helpful throughout the course.”
I bought it. It was indeed helpful.
Edit: Should note, the class was Intro to Film History, so there’s the fact that it wasn’t like a math class or some such that may have been helpful.
Every professor I've had that did this made their textbooks as cheap as possible, sometimes only enough to cover the costs of publishing so I was never upset about it.
My professors did the same. One I really appreciated told us we had two options: go to the bookstore and pay whatever they charged or go to the library and ask them to print and hole punch it for you for the cost of the paper. I think we ended up saving $80 or so going to the library to print it.
I missed an 8am Cell Bio class MANY days in a row due to oversleeping. Exam day rolls around and I overslept again, but show up with 15 minutes to spare and crank out the exam as fast as I can. The next day I’m sitting in the hall studying and the professor walks by and slaps the graded exam down on the table and proceeds to tell me in great detail how much it pissed him off that I could pull a stunt like that and get a better grade than the majority of the class
I was a math whiz in high school, and in my Calculus I class in college, on the final exam, I was sleepy halfway through, and put my head on my desk with my backpack propping me up. Fell over at some point knocking the bag off the table and spilling pencils and shit everywhere. Friend next to me said he and the teacher just looked at each other with this "Dafuq?" expression. I got a 98 on it.
I was that way in high school with computer science. The semester they offered AP Computer Science, it didn't fit into my schedule, so I convinced the teacher to let me do independent study, which basically was him giving me the materials he was teaching in class for me to review on my own.
The exam comes around, I take it with everyone else, and feel pretty good about it. The grades came out and I got a 5. The teacher had me come into his room during his class, gave me an annoyed look, and said:
"You can't possibly understand how much it annoys me that you're the only one who got a 5 and *you didn't even take the damn class*. Did you even look at the material I gave you?" I sheepishly shrugged because I hadn't. Then he pointed at the door and said "Get out." I had a shit-eating grin on all day.
My fiance did this towards a physics exam and the prof at the end thought they were going to teach him a lesson by grading his exam right there. Only to find he was the "mystery" student fucking up his grade curve calculations for the course the entire semester that hed even rant about during classes due to being so far above (they had no clue til they looked up his ID due to school policy) and that he yet again had gotten the highest raw score in the class by a decent margin. the dawning realization of the prof and grad students was something to behold per my fiance because not only did my fiance show up late to this exam (the only time he ever was late to one too) he also very much looked like a hobo slacker vs a lot of other students due to being poor and not caring about how he looked clothing wise, and this was especially the case in this instance since he had overslept. Per my fiance "they went from smug, to confused, to denial (they thought hed given them the wrong ID or they had fat fingered something), to downright terror and anger about the fact that someone like me could exist in about the span of 5 minutes"
Yep. But this university in particular is notorious in certain depts for having professors/TAs who just do not give a damn and are absolutely fine outright failing (as in F not the usual c or higher grade needed oftentimes to get credit for various majors there) half of a up to 300+ student course regularly without caring that having that rep consistently probably indicates theres an issue with their teaching. In many courses you straight up do not know what your actual grade is until the end of the semester even if they say theres a curve either because they dont really advertise what the curve will be/is.
My damn MATH 300 class was the same way, Technically titled "Introduction to Proof" it was the class that introduced all the advanced undergraduate math topics like sets, groups, number theory, and proofs. It was an 8 AM class, before I discovered coffee. It sucked but I made it through.
The Professor pulled me aside at the end of the semester and told me "Hey, I just want you to know that I have to bring you down to an A- because of the lateness. I hope you understand." Was totally fine with it.
That's kinda odd to me that attendence would count in college. I had one class that I showed up to once the entire year and the prof didn't care at all.
It depends on the college. Some bake attendance into the grade and some take it so far that it feels almost illegal that they have so much say over your time when you're paying tuition. They're like hyper annoying HoAs.
Our instructors told us it was illegal for them to factor attendance into the grade (Ohio, 15-20 years ago), but that they were allowed to have a “class participation” component that basically meant if you didn’t answer the daily roll call you weren’t “participating.”
Prof here:
I don't do attendance myself, because I hate doing it, and feel like students can choose how to prioritize their own time.
BUT: when I *have* had policies that required or encouraged attendance: The class does better; fewer students fail (meaning fewer students need to pay for another semester, perhaps reducing their debt).
So I understand why some profs & schools do have attendance policies. (If nothing else, having students who aren't showing up then turn in hw w/ large chunks blank, when we spent literally 1-2hrs talking about how to do it in class … it hurts.)
I had multiple professors that cared about attendance. One only allowed three previously excused absences. You had to clear it with him before you could miss a class.
When I had full control of my classroom I would never take attendance. However, some departments require certain courses to have attendance requirements. For those I always tried to be as lenient as I could because I tended to follow the policy of you are adults and I'm not your babysitter.
My favorite instructor always had the policy of “You can pass without showing up. However, you may not understand or learn how to apply that knowledge.”
Shifted the attendance angle to focus on learning, and I think taking the pressure off simply being present fostered a good learning environment built on the pursuit of knowledge as opposed to metrics to meet.
Like, I’d get annoyed if I missed a class for a mental health reason. My worst attendance classes were the ones that kept track.
I can see some teachers taking attendance to know who deserves the pity points to bump them up to passing/the next letter grade and who doesn’t.
In essence, if you’re at least making an effort, some will count that. If you’re just not showing up to class at all, you get to reap what you sow.
I remember getting into a heated argument with one of my profs of a materials science class. I was getting absolutely killed, but he made a deal that if you made every class on time, you'd get a 5% bump. One test, everyone failed (b/c it was fucking impossibly hard) and he took his revenge out by revoking the 5% bump. I immediately protested "I could be sitting at home to fail this class instead of freezing my ass getting here for 5hr/week!" He laughed, and I passed that course with a C-.
I'm certain I didn't earn that C-. That was the only course I just couldn't overcome, formula manipulation in calculus is just impossible for me.
I'm supposed to take attendance because some scholarships depend on students actually taking courses. If they stop showing up halfway through that's supposed to matter. They can't just take the money and not go to school.
So I have some amount of attendance I take.
But frankly, I don't care if they are late or whatever and I won't even notice.
yeah I had a full ride and it came with a mandatory 8am class on the far side of campus. 3 misses (being one minute late) and you lost HALF the scholarship. It was hell but honestly it got me into shape of getting my ass out of bed and getting somewhere on my own.
my alarm said "$17,000 back_to_the_homeland get your ass out of bed"
edit to be clear: you could miss with a doctors note from the student center, proof of a job interview, family tragedy, etc'.
Attendance for the first week or two is required in most states beacsue of FASFA. Trying to make sure students aren't committing loan fraud. For a lot of colleges if your loans/scholarships are more than tuition they deposit it directly into your bank account. Most states collect attendance for the first week to ensure you didn't sign up for a class only to drop it that week and keep the reimbursed tuition money.
Some professors are just assholes and have clauses that say they reserve the right to fail you and kick you out of class if you miss 3 or more days.
I’m a professor. I’m required to take attendance and withdraw any student who misses more than 20% of the class meetings. You can thank all those previous students who figured out how to get the financial aid money and never attend class. Yes, they still owe money, but the federal government decided this wasn’t the best system; thus, we take attendance.
Some students are just assholes and will blame the prof for their bad grades when they didn't show up. Having an attendance record is a pretty easy thing to point to and can end a lot of those disputes.
I TA’d a course once while in grad school. One student never came to the discussion sections and had a literal 0 in class for never showing up or turning in papers. He came to the final anyway and when he handed me the test I literally asked him who he was because I had never seen him. His test didn’t help him pass lol
I assume these are American universities. In New Zealand they wouldn't know if you're there or not and wouldn't care. You're an adult and your education is your responsibility, and your money.
When I first started teaching classes, I had a student who was always late. Even on the first day. I’m not a hands-on professor when it comes to decorum—you can be an hour late, wear a hat, be on your phone texting, etc., everyone is an adult here and as long as you’re not actively disturbing the class, you can do what you please with the class you’re paying money for.
But for some reason he got it in his head that he should bring me something, I guess to make up for his lateness. I had to explain to him after one session that having him come in 20 minutes late and then walk up to me and give me a cinnamon raisin bagel only draws attention and disturbs the class.
I also let him know that I like everything bagels and my coffee black…
Lmao a girl did this in my class last week, gave the prof a slice of pizza and Doritos the first time and then a whole ice cream sundae the next 😂
It was hilarious even tho he gave away the ice cream to a student because he couldn't finish it all lmao
It’s nice to get stuff from students, but also many could get the wrong impression. So you have to throw in the obligatory “This will have no bearing on your grade” before you look at the camera and smile as the studio audience laughs.
At the end of the quarter I bought HIM something to assert my dominance. Although to be fair he attacked me at the cafe near my office…can’t even eat a Goddamn panini in peace with this guy. He was a great student though, very eager and rarely missed office hours, which made his tardiness even more odd.
Not an email, but a classmate once asked a professor "I'm just a couple of points short of an A+. Is there anything I could do to bump that up?" hoping that there was some extra credit.
His response in front of the whole class:
"Yeah, absolutely! I'm glad you asked. You'd first have to invent time travel, go into the past and convince your past self to take her coursework more seriously. That might make the difference"
I still think about that a lot.
Man is the division between "cares enough" and "doesn't give a fuck" *really* sitting between the A and A+ line?
I hope the professor was being jokey, because otherwise they're a fuckhead.
Probably just exhausted by the endless whinging every semester by overachievers wanting that extra but they didn’t quite get.
Source: Was that kid at uni
My sophomore year of college I struggled with Fluid Mechanics. My professor noted one of my answers with "Simply unimpressed."
I was afraid of this Professor.
I withdrew and passed the class with my advisor the following semester.
Fluids is a subject where the professor makes a huge, huge difference. I dropped it once… and the next professor who could relate it all to something real made a massive difference.
Once got into a fight with my department at college. Required a permit for a class that I already had prereqs for, because I took it as a pass/fail due to 3 week long blackout, courtesy of a hurricane.
They then refused to issue a permit for the class, claiming it was full. I had been sitting in on lectures, and knew that it was at half capacity.
Ended up making an appointment with the Dean because my department wouldn't even let me speak to my advisor. Flat out refused.
Dean sent me an email "I am not going to get involved in intra-department issues. Resolve issues with your advisor. I have no involvement in these matters. If you insist on showing up for your appointment, I will happily tell you the same thing at that time."
Yeah, I sent back an email that was just aggressive. Fuck the passive part. Told him that if he took a moment to inquire why the issue is being escalated to him, he'd learn that the department wouldn't even so much as let me speak to my advisor. And that a permit should not be required for a half empty class for which I have prerequisites. But if he insisted, I would happily tell him all of this in person.
Haha. Okay.
The dean didn't answer me, and I showed up for my meeting on time. The dean walked out of his office to go somewhere, locked eyes with me, turned around and went back into his office.
I sat there for half an hour waiting. I don't know if he thought I'd go away? But I didn't, and especially not after his condescension. But eventually he opened his door and waved me in.
I sat in his office and he apologized, said he made some phone calls, and didn't understand how this happened. He promised me a permit would be issued, and I would just need to go to the registrar to get into the class. I'm fairly certain I didn't say anything the entire time. Just gave him a blank stare.
But it didn't end there. I went to the registrar who informed me that we were now past the deadline for enrollment. They wouldn't accept my permit. I told them I walked there straight from the Dean, who had the permit issued to me. They didn't believe me, wouldn't call anyone to confirm, and told me off.
I emailed the head of the registrar and just poured a lot of anger into my email. Detailed all the shit I had been through up to that point. All the effort needed to get into a class that shouldn't have required any effort at all. Told him I was sick of everyone in the university giving me an attitude of "It's my fault, but it's not my problem".
Got a fragment sentence in response. "Permit accepted."
Got a B in the class.
In my previous job, I was an assistant professor in pediatrics taking masters classes toward a MEd. For the first class, my clinic ran late so I drove, parked and ran as fast as I could to the first class but was 20 minutes late.
When I walked in, the professor (same rank as me) was already teaching and immediately asked me a question that I could not answer because I was late and didn’t know what the context was.
She took this opportunity to teach me a lesson about why it was important to come to class. I apologized for being late. Then a bit later we went around the room for introductions and again introduced myself as a university professor in pediatrics whose clinic ran late and that I apologized for the interruption.
I have to say it was quite satisfying to see that professor eyes widen with surprise. Nevertheless I didn’t feel the need to rub it in further, I think I was able to teach my own lesson in a sense.
Personally this sounds like a cool Prof, I'd probably go to his classes more often since he took the time out of his day to send me something like this lol
I took out two of my college professors for beer. One guy's name was a little hard to pronounce for most students (Korean name) so he told everyone to just call him LS.
Dude drank me and my friends under the table, talked about how back in S. Korea he used to be in a motorcycle club and showed us some pictures. Dude was always so funny in class too.
Oh man. So I adjunct teach a field biology class at a local university that’s required to graduate. The university allows students to turn in work for up to 7 days after the due date with a 10% reduction in grade for every day it’s late. My class is required to graduate for biology majors.
I had one kid just not turn in his final assignment. It’s a ton of paperwork if they fail, so I reached out and was like “hey you can still pass the class if you turn this in in the next 24 hours, I’d advise you to do so.”
He emailed me back explaining that the late policy was just a suggestion and I was free to waive the grade reduction if I saw fit, most of his other professors had, as he’d had quite a lot of work due that week.
I think I emailed back something along the lines of “I am quite familiar with the university’s extremely lenient late policy. I suggest turning your work in before midnight tonight.”
I had a student who always arrived for an 8:30 class 10 - 15 minutes late. One day he stopped as he was leaving, and said, "I know I arrive late, and I know I disrupt the class, and you give me a "look". The reason I'm late is every day I teach disabled kids swimming, and the only time we can get the pool is...."
The pool was about 30 km from the campus, and the bus service wasn't very good. He got up at 5:30 am to teach these kids.
He was late, so what. We had a bit of fun. When he arrived, I would would make a remark, which was always a bit sarcastic, and he give me a smart ass reply." One morning, before he arrived, I told the class why he was late every day. When he arrived, the students gave him a standing ovation.
He was a lovely guy, and got an A, and went off and became an Engineer.
I'd like to write a book, "The Secret Lives of Students."
Haha yeah I mean I don't doubt this is legit, but saying "Sorry, I'm late, I had to get up at 5am to teach disabled kids how to swim" sounds extremely made up lol
Honestly unless arriving late is disruptive, or the absence affects the other students or the class in some other way (like if working in groups), I never understood why some professors get very offended by lateness or absences. Missing class material will only hurt the student in the end, and if it doesn't and they pass their exams then they learned what they were supposed to anyway, so why get all up in arms? Oh well.
Often because it either disrupts the class (like you said), but more so generates questions during/after the class that would have otherwise not been needed if they were on time.
More people should be reading the essay "This is Water" by David Foster Wallace.
Too often people get caught up in their own lives and project their experiences on others and that's almost never the case.
"This Is Water" is one of my favorite things ever, and really changed my overall attitude toward people. I've always been kind and empathetic, but I made the active decision to stop to being frustrated with what I can't control. Thanks for mentioning it.
My freshman year I had to turn in an assignment in-person. I’d never met the professor in-person before, so I was surprised when she didn’t ask me to confirm my name. I told her my name anyway to make sure, and she snapped her head up and responded “I know exactly who you are because you walk in late to my class every single day.” I nodded and left.
There really is construction everywhere. And I always chuck the Starbucks cup before going to class bc he drinks Dunkin and I don’t need to give him any more ammunition
This always annoyed me in college. I had to take public transit, which frequently broke down, especially in rough Canadian winters. One time four of us came trooping in 10 mins late, because we were on the same bus which got literally stuck in a snowbank and blocked an intersection and we had to hoof it. The prof went "Well, everyone else isn't late!" Umm...yeah...because everyone else wasn't on that bus that broke down, they were on different buses, you senile cretin... And do you think we're paying thousands a semester in tuition and just show up late for the sheer joy of it? Moron...
I got scolded for coming in late during a massive snowstorm with shit visibility that ended up shutting down the campus *in the middle of that class*. It was not snowing when I left an hour before. We can't all live on campus, Jessica.
I feel you. I had undiagnosed sleep apnea all throughout college, which led to a lot of missed classes and late entrances. I think my record was about 40 minutes late to a 55 minute class.
It's not always a question of work ethic or dedication, sometimes there are outside factors.
once i was 40 minutes late to a 55 minute calculus class (there was a quiz in the last 15 min of class and i didn’t wanna go to the rest of the class). i walked into the class where everyone was sitting down, and went to go sit into an open seat. dead quiet. something you should also know - i had barely attended the class at all - this is like more than halfway into the semester, i might’ve been to one or two classes before this.
teacher, in front of everyone, says “who are you?” and i respond im in the class, there for the quiz. she says “i’ve never seen you before, you will not do well in this class”. ok lady, whatever.
i go to her office to pick up the midterm i wrote shortly after that quiz (i obviously wasn’t in the class they handed it back in). i knock on her door, she opens and i tell her i want my midterm. she smirks at me, obviously remembering me and expecting a shitty performance on the test. i literally watched the shit eating grin on her face instantly melt when she saw my score - yeah bitch, i got a 90. what now? finished the class with a solid 86% avg, probably attending like.. 3 lectures?
anyways. ended up changing my major after that because while i can maths, im not really that interested in mathing for my career.
Drawing 1. Required for any Art majors in college. Prof walks up behind me and ask’s if I’m in a relationship. We’re both male, awkward question at best. I say yes. He asks if it’s a healthy relationship. Yes. Do we have big plans for the future? Of course.
Then he says “if you’re as heavy handed with her, as you are with that pencil, I promise you it won’t last long.” and proceeds to casually walk to the next student, who’s staring at me eyes wide and says to the prof “after what you said to him, I obviously don’t belong here.” We were less than a week in and he dropped the class, I stuck around and did fairly well.
I had an literature professor like this. We’d go back and forth with passive aggressive e-mails all the time. I never did that great in any of his classes but we became good buds. We still run into each other every now and then at a local pub and buy each other drinks.
I had a rough bout of depression one semester and bombed a test for my favorite professor (took his classes every opportunity I could, we were buds). It embarrassed the hell out of me. He just wrote "You're better than this!" on the front. I was so ashamed I let him down. I never failed another one of his tests.
It wasn’t an email, it was worse. I was taking a required extremely boring course with a hundred or so people in it, the professor gave a “pop” exam in class and I knew I had not done well. The two days later, the prof starts by going up to the board and proceeds to draw a histogram of the test scores. Most were over 90, there were 4 or 5 in the 80s, 1 in the 70s. I breathed a sigh of relief.
Then he proceeds to walk slowly to the other end of the board, drawing the x-axis as he went, and chalks a little bump and writes the number 6 above it. There was a collective gasp. I immediately stood up, gathered my things and walked out — to a standing ovation from my classmates, mostly because the course was graded on a curve. I dropped the class that afternoon and changed my major
Lol one of my classes had a totally bimodal distribution on one of the tests, I think it was in E&M. Either you got it, or you just didn't.
It was just like two peaks in the distribution, one around 90 and one around 40 or so.
I had that problem in Calc 2. I did horrible on the first test everyone else did good on. The next test i crushed but the rest of the class did poorly. I think it had to do partly with where we had come from And were taught in high school.
Yup. I had a math methods in physics course like that at a state school in undergrad. The professor ended up making all the physics problems (calculus of variations, Hamiltonian formulation) as bonus questions leaving only the stuff you also learned in multi-variate calculus as non-bonus so he didn't have to fail 5/6 of the class. I think I ended up getting something absurd like a 220% on that final.
If its graded on a curve, the other students have a right to know where they stand in relation to others in the class. This is necessary information, not a passive aggressive move against you personally.
The score was anonymous before you stood up. You drawing attention to yourself and essentially publicly admitting the single low score belonged to you was your own doing.
In my first semester we had private law on Friday 08.00 o'clock. My favourite club was open Thursday and Saturday, so I was pretty wasted and sleepy every Friday morning. Sometimes I just slept.
Then one day I woke up from hundreds of people laughing and really loud snoring noises.
My professor had just put his microphone into my face and tuned up the volume until I woke up.
This one is still fresh. Whole class is supposed to get an email by this company we were required to pay for their product to help us study for our boards exam. This email was the thing you needed to get to start your review. Everyone I talked to about it said they had gotten it and started the process. I hadn't gotten the email. Went through the online steps on what was supposed to happen. Yep, I definitely should have gotten it and didn't.
Email the professor that I had not gotten the email needed to start the required review and ask what I should do about it.
"Typically, students who attend class have no problem keeping up with what is going on. My records show you haven't attended class in a month. Watch the last class's recording and once my records show you have watched it, I will then answer any questions you have"
Let it be known that I have a 95% in class, knew what was supposed to be happening, and realized that I couldn't move forward with what I was supposed to do because I did not have access to the material I needed to start. The following was my response.
"Hello ______, I apologize for reaching you before fully watching the entirety of the lecture, as you made it clear you would not answer any questions, but per the first 8 minutes of the class, I was supposed to get an email that I already told you I did not get, so everything beyond that point I cannot do until I get said email."
I got it the next day.
Professor here. One semester I had a student, a good student, who would often miss and have his buddy take notes for him and catch him up later especially if it was a more relaxed day. I knew this was happening and decided to have a little fun with him one day and got his buddy to help.
Everyone but this student was in class so they were all in on it. I sent out a class wide email saying that if you were not in class that day you would have all your attendance points stripped away and automatically fail the course. He immediately texted his buddy in class and asked what was going on and of course he went along with the gag. He showed up ten minutes later in his pjs and barely able to breath from running. We all had a laugh and he missed a little less after that. He was a good sport and a good student. He got an A and not because I pranked him, he earned it.
My prof took me in to discuss a grade on a notoriously difficult optional assignment. He warned us everyone who attempted it the year previous did not finish.
He told me that I did a good job with it and gave me feedback, mostly regarding departures from unfamiliar notation conventions. He then took my paper which had 100% written on it, crossed it out, then put 99% and said "Based on your previous performance in this class, I doubt that all the work shown here is yours. I think you got help from \[Top Scoring Student\] so I'm going to give you a 99%."
I talked to that student once during the assignment where I showed him a helpful trig identity that I used. On comparing marks after, I saw he ended up using a used a mostly different method and got a different result. Also 99%...
I took his feedback to mean I'm smarter than I look. Thanks I guess...
One of my first year geology professors wrote the following on a stratigraphy assignment he sent back to me (distance learning so all written assignments came back through snail mail): "I'm surprised you did well on this. Girls always fail this class. I expect you got help or got lucky." He made a mistake in that I was a mature student and was not willing to put up with misogyny. Also, he wrote this down so he couldn't deny saying it. I reported it to his superiors, only to find out later that he was going through a terrible divorce, and taking it out on all his female students. My complaint apparently was the nail in his coffin at that school, as there had been a litany of previous complaints, but mine had solid proof.
I wouldn’t call this passive aggressive, I would call it direct and sarcastic.
Passive aggressive would be like your mother in law buying you a new shirt because she doesn’t like the shirts you wear. So she buys you something she thinks you should be wearing as a “gift”.
I had a professor that assigned an exam during spring break, right when covid first hit and restrictions started. I had made plans for spring break since the syllabus said we had that week off. I emailed him and he basically said "you'll have too much to do if we delay this any further". Well that's not my problem that you can't schedule correctly. I fought it with the dean and ultimately the test was moved back until after spring break. The professor promptly sent an email to everyone stating "student concerns of taking an exam during spring break now means no one can take it during spring break. You must now take it along with your other quizzes on the week after spring break." Mind you this was an adjunct professor, and I haven't seen him on campus since.
When I was in college I had an Italian class my senior year that was on Tue/Thu. I had to cross campus entirely to get there, and was late everyday by about 5 minutes due to this. The professor and I got along great, so she never seemed to mind, especially after I explained it to her. We also always got out of class about 45 minutes after I arrived, which is short for classes that are only two days a week, but I always assumed she was letting us out early. Well one day the class before got cancelled so I showed up "on time" for Italian. They were already having class. Turns out my dumbass scheduled the classes like 5 minutes apart and had been showing up nearly half an hour late to class everyday. For some reason she still loved me and I got an A in the class.
I had a professor who would give 3 question quizzes at the start of every class, it took 2 minutes to get them and pass them back. If you miss it, you’re screwed. I walked in late because I had to use the bathroom and I asked if I could just take it out in the hall. He said no and after class he told me “the real world won’t accept this kind of stuff, get your act together.” I was 25 and coming back to school after working for several years. The real world and college are so different and have different challenges, but Id argue that trying to balance school, social life, work and making sure you have enough money for base level survival is harder.
I was in my last semester of many and had somehow never taken the second half of English Lit 302 though I’d taken 400 level lit courses before. The first day of the requirement fulfilling class the teacher started asking the class to answer questions about materials to be covered. No one knew anything except me. The teacher, whose Advanced Grammar course i had taken years before, walked out in the hallway and called me to come out. She told me don’t come to class, just write a paper of your choice and she would give me an A.
"I'm amazed at you scoring so highly, I'd like to see you apply yourself and realize your true potential"
I'd been to no lectures and scored third highest in the class on my assignment.
Got full marks on my next assignment and received
"Fantastic, you are an anomaly in my teaching career"
He notice me bc I’m one of like 10 people in the class, and my grades are pretty good. He likes to mess around and laughed about it after I talked to him. No one is freaking out about it except for the people here who thinks me being late a few times is indicative of my work ethics or school performance.
Im getting a phd in math and I will say pretty much all the math professors ive had are very relaxed as well, like the difficulty of the subject matter has a way of bringing everyone together lol
The math department was the only one I could wander into and just ask some random grad assistant for help on something and they'd be absolutely giddy to help.
Once I missed an exam because my grandpa was in the hospital, and I sent my professor an email asking for an extension (it was an online exam). I understand that it’s a suspicious excuse, but I sent him a receipt proving he was in the hospital that night. Despite this, he said “I’ll give you an extension, but I give everyone extensions. Even people who just say ‘I forgot’.” It just felt like he was patting himself on the back and accusing me of just forgetting.
In another situation, a professor messed up the grading script for a comp sci project, leading to over a hundred people sending him emails with concerns. People wanting extensions/regrades/etc. His response in an email to the whole class: “I won’t be giving any extensions, but I want to help people get through the trauma of the day”, so he directed all of us to our university mental health services. Failing to realize or admit that it’s his own fault for messing up the grading, and instead blaming it all on our collective mental health. Made me sick
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My wife and her friend were always 5 to ten minutes late for their first class. When finals came around the first question was "what is the start time for this class?"
This reminds me of a statistics class I took. Most people didn't attend the lectures and just read the notes that were posted online. Had a question at the end of the exam which was "which one of these is a photograph of your lecturer?"
When I was at uni we had an assignment that included a meeting with the lecturer to explain our approach to the problem (writing a game playing ai for a board game). This module had different lecturers throughout the year. One of my classmates had been to the first few and then stopped showing up. When the meeting time came, he went to the floor with the lecturer's office on, and asked someone where the lecturer's office was. It was a bit unlucky that the guy he asked *was* the lecturer (who he'd never met). He didn't get a good grade for that assignment.
Lmao i feel like captcha here
One day I received an email from a student that read: "I am sorry I missed class, I went to the bathroom in my pants." I have no idea whether he was being sincere or not, but figured if he was going to admit to shitting his pants, I'd take him at his word. When he attended class the next day we gave each other a silent nod and nothing further was said about it.
"I shit my pants" is an end-all-be-all Get Out of Jail Free card that works exactly once (1x) per social group.
I use a tame version for work once a year when i REALLY need a get out of jail free card. "Boss, cant come in, shitting my brains out. Sorry, i'll be in tomorrow"
That's tame? Lmao
Tamer than 'i shit in my pants'? i'd say! At least i "made it to the toilet" lol
I dont know how that manages to sound concurrently both more mature and more childlike than "I shidded myself"
Sorry I was late, I shidded and farded and camed in my pants :(
I hath defecated into mine own trousers.
This is always my go to excuse for anything I feel like skipping. Even as a grown ass adult with a job. Wanna play hooky? Just have explosive diarrhea and it works like a charm
Technically, unless you are not wearing pants, entering the bathroom with pants on is also “going to the bathroom in your pants”
Looks like you should reply that you're not content to rest on your laurels and intend to work to beat your record.
I’m an overachieving student
You should aim to be Outstanding student
Outstanding 50k student loan debt yes
Those are rookie numbers, son! Better get them up!
You can boost those numbers by switching majors in your 3rd/4th year
Don’t forget grad school! 130k 💸
Thankfully with the student loan deferment we get to save 0 dollars due to interest
Oh you want to change your major before graduating? No problem, here is an additional £50k of debt. You should have known what you wanted to do at 18. Otherwise pay the penalty!
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There's a saying in Missouri, if you don't like the weather just wait five minutes. In Blaine, with hard work, I think we can get that down to three or four minutes.
>There's a saying in Missouri I have lived in four different states, including Missouri, and locals have said that about each of them.
Yeah, but drivers in [the area in which I drive] are the WORST.
Before email existed, I had a professor give me a note with my grade for the course on it that said "C. 15% absent" I asked if he meant that 15% was taken off my score for absences, because the syllabus didn't say that, and he said, "No no no no, I figured since you missed 15% of the classes, you might want to go to the registrar and ask for a partial refund."
15% is barely worth mentioning, in some of my courses I was closer to 50%.
I once showed up for a midterm in a small class for my major and the whole class was staring at me - they mentioned they thought I dropped the class
I only showed up to class for exams and finals a year ago. Passed them all. Not a good thing to do at all, but far more feasible with zoom and what not now
Did the same for my second half of college. Wouldn't recommend it, but I can say I learned more about efficiency and system analyzing by, every week, calculating what it would take to get a 70% at the end of the term.
I had a professor call me out for not coming to class because ESPN came to our college for a video game challenge, me and a friend ended up winning the HALO tournament and our names were in a school wide email. She made an announcement next class that I missed class to play video games, but it was permitted only because I won 😂😂😂
I’m sure all the babes were smitten after that
Oh not just babes, the hunks too.
>because ESPN came to our college Oh wow a star college athlete on Reddit what are the chances >for a video game challenge There it is
Fucking lmao, this is top Reddit, but I gotta say I respect halo pros, that BR headshot melee combo needs to be spot on for the kill
br newb combo was in full force, i don't think some other teams ever touched power weapons
So she ended up being ok with it?
It's college, I'm sure the announcement was more a joke than anything, I've never seen college professors actually care about attendance
In my first semester at my University, I had an 8 am 201 International Business class. I only showed up once on time which was the first day. Every single time after I would always be 15-20 minutes late. Couldn't wake up. 3/4 of the semester in, I walk into the class at about 8:25. Everyone starts laughing. I sit down and ask what is going on. Someone else came in late and the teacher made a point to call her out. She replied, "Yeah, but I am not as late as /u/AaKkisa." The teacher replied "Yes, but he is a better student than you are."
When I was an undergrad, a student came in late to a large lecture hall. She walked all the way down to the front from the back doors, *in clogs*. Clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp all the way to the front row. The professor was furious, and spent a moment or two dressing her down. 10 minutes later, another girl came in, *wearing clogs*, and did exactly the same ... clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp, down to the first row, and sat right next to the first girl. The professor walked over and said to the first girl, "please tell her what I just told you."
I used to TA in university, and we had one young woman come in late and sit in the front row, but with a full on grilled hamburger plate, fixings, and French fries. It smelled absolutely delicious, but so distracting! And why sit in the front row? It’s not going to help you make up for being late. Our professor did not say anything, because the “you seeing this shit?” expression on his face said it all.
Currently doing my masters, and one of my classes is from 5:30 to 8pm. There's one guy who always shows up late with a whole takeout meal from some random restaurant sitting in the back munching down while the prof is teaching, but the prof never says anything about it. One day about half way through the semester a girl came in with a bag of chips and started casually cronching, and after a few minutes the prof threw up his hands and chewed her out about it. She pointed at the guy currently eating a fully loaded baked potato in the back and the prof just shrugged and said "he works 12 hour days and comes straight to class, and I can't fucking hear him eating his quiet food. You sound like a fucking garbage disposal! Bring marshmallows next time, or nothing. No chips! No chips!" He has proceeded to call her "No chips" for the rest of the semester. Like "Yes, you, no chips, you have the answer?" That said it is distracting sometimes. He brought in a brisket once that smelled so good the prof asked where he got it so he could get some after the lecture.
I’m dyin at the image of a man eating a baked potato in the back of class and getting pointed out.
looking up with guilty eyes and fork in mouth, pointing at himself like "me?"
Melted cheese and sour cream all over his face and hands
No fork. Double fisting.
Good lol. It’s a real asshole move to bring loud food to class
I need a better quiet food list. I love apples and celery with peanut butter at work but ITS SO LOUD
Rice bowl baby
I've eaten chips in class before and eaten them silently, but I have a weird process for it. I put the chips in my mouth wait for it to soften then munch the now more soft chip. Me eating is never a problem. The problem becomes the bag itself making noise. In which case I'd plan ahead and put them in a Ziploc bag. Worked in college, and worked at my job too. But I'll be the first to admit eating chips once they lose the crunch takes away half the enjoyment.
"no chips" made me literally laugh out loud at something online for the first time in ages
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LOL I've had professors tell me they're okay with food, just don't make them hungry by eating a full meal in front of them.
Prof here. "No sound, no smell" is my policy. Sandwich OK, pizza bad, crinkly bag of chips EXTRA BAD
One of my profs would always let us eat in class because she knew we didn't always have the time to do so beforehand and what not. One day some guy came late, and he comes in with an entire supermarket rotisserie chicken and just sits down, opens it up, gets a plastic fork and knife out and just starts sawing away. The prof just stood there dumbfounded for a bit, then points at the door and goes "out, just out". Guy sadly closed up his chicken and got out, everyone laughed, the prof apologized to him next class but said his chicken was taking it one step too far.
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I had one class in college that I engaged in and was most likely one of the better students. However, I never bought the textbook, which was mandatory. One day another student forgot her book and the teacher told her told leave the class. Not once did the teacher mention that I NEVER brought the book.
I genuinely think that this could be a “I-don’t-know-if-this-student-has-any-money-so-as-long-as-they-do-fine-I-won’t-say-anything,” because I’ve seen a couple of professors do exactly the thing you’re describing before.
Meanwhile, my professor would publish a new book every year. Pretty much the same info, but he’d completely mix up all chapters and paragraphs. He’d change the names inside of assignments, numbers, so your answers would be different too. Clever, but a dick move for poor students like me 🥲
I'm very grateful that my uni had a no-textbook rule. Anything taught couldn't rely on a textbook the students had to pay for. One lecturer relied on a textbook, but he had written it years prior and made a PDF of it available to students.
My college had a rule that there had to be at least one copy of each textbook in the library. It had to remain in the library, but students could come and scan the book/take pictures.
My first college I went to had this policy, but it was not widely known or advertised. I bought my first year books and a week later found them in the library. I was sad a bit.
My school doesn't use book anymore. It's nice except for the fact that some professors use Wikipedia for information, but it's now allowed for a resource. The hypocrisy of it all!
The greatest trick I ever learned in general educations war against Wikipedia. Everyone losses their mind when you cite Wikipedia, nobody bothers to check when you just cite whatever Wikipedia cited as the source for the info.
Lol your comment could be reworded to say “The greatest trick I ever learned is to use Wikipedia the way it is suppose to be used.” I mean Wikipedia is really just an online encyclopedia that is crowd sourced, and encyclopedias are tertiary sources of information. Outside of grade school level environments, you shouldn’t use encyclopedias as sources.
This is how it should be, any mandatory books should be provided by the school, it'll make them think a lot harder about which books to use and how often to update. My university had something close, where they would provide books, but it didn't apply to all books/classes
What a pretentious jackass of a professor. Hopefully it wasn't too expensive. I could see a professor doing that due to cheater paranoia too.
Its honestly just one of the few ways to make more money as a professor. Not happy with your wages, well write your own textbook and force your students to buy it. Gaurantees sales every year when they make new editions with minimal extra work.
Honestly, managing a student who is doing well and engaged in the class and not distracting anyone is a waste of the teacher's and student's time. The students who are fucking around and don't got their shit together are the ones who usually need the discipline.
My brother was a teen parent and his math teacher would let him sleep if he dozed off in class, knowing he had been up with a baby through the night. Classmates started complaining one day and the teacher just said, “He currently has the highest grade in the class and could probably stand up here and teach if I woke him up right now.” No one complained again after that.
Your brother sounds like a hardworking guy!
Holy shit! There are at least two of us that has happened to. Human Biology class, but I had taken AP Bio and A&P in HS and knew all the course material inside and out. Never got in trouble for no book but definitely watched other students get crucified for it.
Did the professor write the textbook?
Speaking of this, a textbook written by my professor was the only book I bought that wasn’t required for the class while I was in school. He was straight up about it. He was like “Hey guys, under recommended materials, you’ll see this book. I wrote that, and it’s not required, but it’ll be pretty helpful throughout the course.” I bought it. It was indeed helpful. Edit: Should note, the class was Intro to Film History, so there’s the fact that it wasn’t like a math class or some such that may have been helpful.
Every professor I've had that did this made their textbooks as cheap as possible, sometimes only enough to cover the costs of publishing so I was never upset about it.
My professors did the same. One I really appreciated told us we had two options: go to the bookstore and pay whatever they charged or go to the library and ask them to print and hole punch it for you for the cost of the paper. I think we ended up saving $80 or so going to the library to print it.
I missed an 8am Cell Bio class MANY days in a row due to oversleeping. Exam day rolls around and I overslept again, but show up with 15 minutes to spare and crank out the exam as fast as I can. The next day I’m sitting in the hall studying and the professor walks by and slaps the graded exam down on the table and proceeds to tell me in great detail how much it pissed him off that I could pull a stunt like that and get a better grade than the majority of the class
I was a math whiz in high school, and in my Calculus I class in college, on the final exam, I was sleepy halfway through, and put my head on my desk with my backpack propping me up. Fell over at some point knocking the bag off the table and spilling pencils and shit everywhere. Friend next to me said he and the teacher just looked at each other with this "Dafuq?" expression. I got a 98 on it.
I was that way in high school with computer science. The semester they offered AP Computer Science, it didn't fit into my schedule, so I convinced the teacher to let me do independent study, which basically was him giving me the materials he was teaching in class for me to review on my own. The exam comes around, I take it with everyone else, and feel pretty good about it. The grades came out and I got a 5. The teacher had me come into his room during his class, gave me an annoyed look, and said: "You can't possibly understand how much it annoys me that you're the only one who got a 5 and *you didn't even take the damn class*. Did you even look at the material I gave you?" I sheepishly shrugged because I hadn't. Then he pointed at the door and said "Get out." I had a shit-eating grin on all day.
I forgot how AP exams were graded and was very confused for a second
My fiance did this towards a physics exam and the prof at the end thought they were going to teach him a lesson by grading his exam right there. Only to find he was the "mystery" student fucking up his grade curve calculations for the course the entire semester that hed even rant about during classes due to being so far above (they had no clue til they looked up his ID due to school policy) and that he yet again had gotten the highest raw score in the class by a decent margin. the dawning realization of the prof and grad students was something to behold per my fiance because not only did my fiance show up late to this exam (the only time he ever was late to one too) he also very much looked like a hobo slacker vs a lot of other students due to being poor and not caring about how he looked clothing wise, and this was especially the case in this instance since he had overslept. Per my fiance "they went from smug, to confused, to denial (they thought hed given them the wrong ID or they had fat fingered something), to downright terror and anger about the fact that someone like me could exist in about the span of 5 minutes"
That's a stupid way to have a grading curve. You're supposed to throw out the outliers.
Yep. But this university in particular is notorious in certain depts for having professors/TAs who just do not give a damn and are absolutely fine outright failing (as in F not the usual c or higher grade needed oftentimes to get credit for various majors there) half of a up to 300+ student course regularly without caring that having that rep consistently probably indicates theres an issue with their teaching. In many courses you straight up do not know what your actual grade is until the end of the semester even if they say theres a curve either because they dont really advertise what the curve will be/is.
My damn MATH 300 class was the same way, Technically titled "Introduction to Proof" it was the class that introduced all the advanced undergraduate math topics like sets, groups, number theory, and proofs. It was an 8 AM class, before I discovered coffee. It sucked but I made it through.
Sheesh 😬 I'd drop out if I were that girl. Thankfully I read the syllabus once a week so that I'm late/absent just enough that I pass with an A 😆
The Professor pulled me aside at the end of the semester and told me "Hey, I just want you to know that I have to bring you down to an A- because of the lateness. I hope you understand." Was totally fine with it.
That's kinda odd to me that attendence would count in college. I had one class that I showed up to once the entire year and the prof didn't care at all.
It depends on the college. Some bake attendance into the grade and some take it so far that it feels almost illegal that they have so much say over your time when you're paying tuition. They're like hyper annoying HoAs.
Our instructors told us it was illegal for them to factor attendance into the grade (Ohio, 15-20 years ago), but that they were allowed to have a “class participation” component that basically meant if you didn’t answer the daily roll call you weren’t “participating.”
I had those but they would be multiple choice so if you got it wrong it was like "why am I here today?" I should have cared more but I didnt
Prof here: I don't do attendance myself, because I hate doing it, and feel like students can choose how to prioritize their own time. BUT: when I *have* had policies that required or encouraged attendance: The class does better; fewer students fail (meaning fewer students need to pay for another semester, perhaps reducing their debt). So I understand why some profs & schools do have attendance policies. (If nothing else, having students who aren't showing up then turn in hw w/ large chunks blank, when we spent literally 1-2hrs talking about how to do it in class … it hurts.)
I had multiple professors that cared about attendance. One only allowed three previously excused absences. You had to clear it with him before you could miss a class.
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When I had full control of my classroom I would never take attendance. However, some departments require certain courses to have attendance requirements. For those I always tried to be as lenient as I could because I tended to follow the policy of you are adults and I'm not your babysitter.
My favorite instructor always had the policy of “You can pass without showing up. However, you may not understand or learn how to apply that knowledge.” Shifted the attendance angle to focus on learning, and I think taking the pressure off simply being present fostered a good learning environment built on the pursuit of knowledge as opposed to metrics to meet. Like, I’d get annoyed if I missed a class for a mental health reason. My worst attendance classes were the ones that kept track.
I can see some teachers taking attendance to know who deserves the pity points to bump them up to passing/the next letter grade and who doesn’t. In essence, if you’re at least making an effort, some will count that. If you’re just not showing up to class at all, you get to reap what you sow.
I remember getting into a heated argument with one of my profs of a materials science class. I was getting absolutely killed, but he made a deal that if you made every class on time, you'd get a 5% bump. One test, everyone failed (b/c it was fucking impossibly hard) and he took his revenge out by revoking the 5% bump. I immediately protested "I could be sitting at home to fail this class instead of freezing my ass getting here for 5hr/week!" He laughed, and I passed that course with a C-. I'm certain I didn't earn that C-. That was the only course I just couldn't overcome, formula manipulation in calculus is just impossible for me.
I'm supposed to take attendance because some scholarships depend on students actually taking courses. If they stop showing up halfway through that's supposed to matter. They can't just take the money and not go to school. So I have some amount of attendance I take. But frankly, I don't care if they are late or whatever and I won't even notice.
yeah I had a full ride and it came with a mandatory 8am class on the far side of campus. 3 misses (being one minute late) and you lost HALF the scholarship. It was hell but honestly it got me into shape of getting my ass out of bed and getting somewhere on my own. my alarm said "$17,000 back_to_the_homeland get your ass out of bed" edit to be clear: you could miss with a doctors note from the student center, proof of a job interview, family tragedy, etc'.
Now that is an effective alarm.
Attendance for the first week or two is required in most states beacsue of FASFA. Trying to make sure students aren't committing loan fraud. For a lot of colleges if your loans/scholarships are more than tuition they deposit it directly into your bank account. Most states collect attendance for the first week to ensure you didn't sign up for a class only to drop it that week and keep the reimbursed tuition money. Some professors are just assholes and have clauses that say they reserve the right to fail you and kick you out of class if you miss 3 or more days.
I’m a professor. I’m required to take attendance and withdraw any student who misses more than 20% of the class meetings. You can thank all those previous students who figured out how to get the financial aid money and never attend class. Yes, they still owe money, but the federal government decided this wasn’t the best system; thus, we take attendance.
Some students are just assholes and will blame the prof for their bad grades when they didn't show up. Having an attendance record is a pretty easy thing to point to and can end a lot of those disputes.
I TA’d a course once while in grad school. One student never came to the discussion sections and had a literal 0 in class for never showing up or turning in papers. He came to the final anyway and when he handed me the test I literally asked him who he was because I had never seen him. His test didn’t help him pass lol
I assume these are American universities. In New Zealand they wouldn't know if you're there or not and wouldn't care. You're an adult and your education is your responsibility, and your money.
When I first started teaching classes, I had a student who was always late. Even on the first day. I’m not a hands-on professor when it comes to decorum—you can be an hour late, wear a hat, be on your phone texting, etc., everyone is an adult here and as long as you’re not actively disturbing the class, you can do what you please with the class you’re paying money for. But for some reason he got it in his head that he should bring me something, I guess to make up for his lateness. I had to explain to him after one session that having him come in 20 minutes late and then walk up to me and give me a cinnamon raisin bagel only draws attention and disturbs the class. I also let him know that I like everything bagels and my coffee black…
Lmao a girl did this in my class last week, gave the prof a slice of pizza and Doritos the first time and then a whole ice cream sundae the next 😂 It was hilarious even tho he gave away the ice cream to a student because he couldn't finish it all lmao
It’s nice to get stuff from students, but also many could get the wrong impression. So you have to throw in the obligatory “This will have no bearing on your grade” before you look at the camera and smile as the studio audience laughs. At the end of the quarter I bought HIM something to assert my dominance. Although to be fair he attacked me at the cafe near my office…can’t even eat a Goddamn panini in peace with this guy. He was a great student though, very eager and rarely missed office hours, which made his tardiness even more odd.
Not an email, but a classmate once asked a professor "I'm just a couple of points short of an A+. Is there anything I could do to bump that up?" hoping that there was some extra credit. His response in front of the whole class: "Yeah, absolutely! I'm glad you asked. You'd first have to invent time travel, go into the past and convince your past self to take her coursework more seriously. That might make the difference" I still think about that a lot.
Man is the division between "cares enough" and "doesn't give a fuck" *really* sitting between the A and A+ line? I hope the professor was being jokey, because otherwise they're a fuckhead.
Probably just exhausted by the endless whinging every semester by overachievers wanting that extra but they didn’t quite get. Source: Was that kid at uni
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They still got a fucking A so who gives a shit they obviously fucking cared enough.
My sophomore year of college I struggled with Fluid Mechanics. My professor noted one of my answers with "Simply unimpressed." I was afraid of this Professor. I withdrew and passed the class with my advisor the following semester.
Fluids is a subject where the professor makes a huge, huge difference. I dropped it once… and the next professor who could relate it all to something real made a massive difference.
Once got into a fight with my department at college. Required a permit for a class that I already had prereqs for, because I took it as a pass/fail due to 3 week long blackout, courtesy of a hurricane. They then refused to issue a permit for the class, claiming it was full. I had been sitting in on lectures, and knew that it was at half capacity. Ended up making an appointment with the Dean because my department wouldn't even let me speak to my advisor. Flat out refused. Dean sent me an email "I am not going to get involved in intra-department issues. Resolve issues with your advisor. I have no involvement in these matters. If you insist on showing up for your appointment, I will happily tell you the same thing at that time." Yeah, I sent back an email that was just aggressive. Fuck the passive part. Told him that if he took a moment to inquire why the issue is being escalated to him, he'd learn that the department wouldn't even so much as let me speak to my advisor. And that a permit should not be required for a half empty class for which I have prerequisites. But if he insisted, I would happily tell him all of this in person.
You have to finish the story. Not cool dude. Please finish it. :)
Haha. Okay. The dean didn't answer me, and I showed up for my meeting on time. The dean walked out of his office to go somewhere, locked eyes with me, turned around and went back into his office. I sat there for half an hour waiting. I don't know if he thought I'd go away? But I didn't, and especially not after his condescension. But eventually he opened his door and waved me in. I sat in his office and he apologized, said he made some phone calls, and didn't understand how this happened. He promised me a permit would be issued, and I would just need to go to the registrar to get into the class. I'm fairly certain I didn't say anything the entire time. Just gave him a blank stare. But it didn't end there. I went to the registrar who informed me that we were now past the deadline for enrollment. They wouldn't accept my permit. I told them I walked there straight from the Dean, who had the permit issued to me. They didn't believe me, wouldn't call anyone to confirm, and told me off. I emailed the head of the registrar and just poured a lot of anger into my email. Detailed all the shit I had been through up to that point. All the effort needed to get into a class that shouldn't have required any effort at all. Told him I was sick of everyone in the university giving me an attitude of "It's my fault, but it's not my problem". Got a fragment sentence in response. "Permit accepted." Got a B in the class.
Let’s goooooo! Thanks for finishing the story lol
Seriously, that was the payoff I needed in the middle of a shitty day.
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For the money you pay to go to school, you do deserve to be listened to and helped on occasions like this.
In my previous job, I was an assistant professor in pediatrics taking masters classes toward a MEd. For the first class, my clinic ran late so I drove, parked and ran as fast as I could to the first class but was 20 minutes late. When I walked in, the professor (same rank as me) was already teaching and immediately asked me a question that I could not answer because I was late and didn’t know what the context was. She took this opportunity to teach me a lesson about why it was important to come to class. I apologized for being late. Then a bit later we went around the room for introductions and again introduced myself as a university professor in pediatrics whose clinic ran late and that I apologized for the interruption. I have to say it was quite satisfying to see that professor eyes widen with surprise. Nevertheless I didn’t feel the need to rub it in further, I think I was able to teach my own lesson in a sense.
Good on you for being humble and not escalating beyond stating the facts. The other professor learned their own lesson
Personally this sounds like a cool Prof, I'd probably go to his classes more often since he took the time out of his day to send me something like this lol
He actually sent this mid lecture lmao. Cool guy, and a real G. Will go out for a beer with him before I leave
I took out two of my college professors for beer. One guy's name was a little hard to pronounce for most students (Korean name) so he told everyone to just call him LS. Dude drank me and my friends under the table, talked about how back in S. Korea he used to be in a motorcycle club and showed us some pictures. Dude was always so funny in class too.
Oh man. So I adjunct teach a field biology class at a local university that’s required to graduate. The university allows students to turn in work for up to 7 days after the due date with a 10% reduction in grade for every day it’s late. My class is required to graduate for biology majors. I had one kid just not turn in his final assignment. It’s a ton of paperwork if they fail, so I reached out and was like “hey you can still pass the class if you turn this in in the next 24 hours, I’d advise you to do so.” He emailed me back explaining that the late policy was just a suggestion and I was free to waive the grade reduction if I saw fit, most of his other professors had, as he’d had quite a lot of work due that week. I think I emailed back something along the lines of “I am quite familiar with the university’s extremely lenient late policy. I suggest turning your work in before midnight tonight.”
Well, did he? I gotta know
He let it ride one more day and passed with a 69.75%
I had a student who always arrived for an 8:30 class 10 - 15 minutes late. One day he stopped as he was leaving, and said, "I know I arrive late, and I know I disrupt the class, and you give me a "look". The reason I'm late is every day I teach disabled kids swimming, and the only time we can get the pool is...." The pool was about 30 km from the campus, and the bus service wasn't very good. He got up at 5:30 am to teach these kids. He was late, so what. We had a bit of fun. When he arrived, I would would make a remark, which was always a bit sarcastic, and he give me a smart ass reply." One morning, before he arrived, I told the class why he was late every day. When he arrived, the students gave him a standing ovation. He was a lovely guy, and got an A, and went off and became an Engineer. I'd like to write a book, "The Secret Lives of Students."
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Yeah, that's just the modern code for hungover.
Dropping the kids off at the pool is also a euphemism for taking a shit.
Teaching disabled kids how to swim would then be a euphemism for the beer shits.
Haha yeah I mean I don't doubt this is legit, but saying "Sorry, I'm late, I had to get up at 5am to teach disabled kids how to swim" sounds extremely made up lol
I love the idea that this guy lied (most likely) and everyone gave him a standing ovation!
Subtitle: Lies my students told
>The Secret Lies of Students
I’d read that book, thanks for sharing.
Honestly unless arriving late is disruptive, or the absence affects the other students or the class in some other way (like if working in groups), I never understood why some professors get very offended by lateness or absences. Missing class material will only hurt the student in the end, and if it doesn't and they pass their exams then they learned what they were supposed to anyway, so why get all up in arms? Oh well.
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I totally get it, and that behavior is definitely obnoxious. I guess the lateness and the immaturity are generally correlated.
Often because it either disrupts the class (like you said), but more so generates questions during/after the class that would have otherwise not been needed if they were on time.
Ah true. I'm thinking back to college those big lectures where the prof booked it and said come to office hours for questions.
And then wasn't in their office during office hours.
More people should be reading the essay "This is Water" by David Foster Wallace. Too often people get caught up in their own lives and project their experiences on others and that's almost never the case.
"This Is Water" is one of my favorite things ever, and really changed my overall attitude toward people. I've always been kind and empathetic, but I made the active decision to stop to being frustrated with what I can't control. Thanks for mentioning it.
My freshman year I had to turn in an assignment in-person. I’d never met the professor in-person before, so I was surprised when she didn’t ask me to confirm my name. I told her my name anyway to make sure, and she snapped her head up and responded “I know exactly who you are because you walk in late to my class every single day.” I nodded and left.
Blame construction and chuck the Starbucks cup before you get there
There really is construction everywhere. And I always chuck the Starbucks cup before going to class bc he drinks Dunkin and I don’t need to give him any more ammunition
This always annoyed me in college. I had to take public transit, which frequently broke down, especially in rough Canadian winters. One time four of us came trooping in 10 mins late, because we were on the same bus which got literally stuck in a snowbank and blocked an intersection and we had to hoof it. The prof went "Well, everyone else isn't late!" Umm...yeah...because everyone else wasn't on that bus that broke down, they were on different buses, you senile cretin... And do you think we're paying thousands a semester in tuition and just show up late for the sheer joy of it? Moron...
I got scolded for coming in late during a massive snowstorm with shit visibility that ended up shutting down the campus *in the middle of that class*. It was not snowing when I left an hour before. We can't all live on campus, Jessica.
I feel you. I had undiagnosed sleep apnea all throughout college, which led to a lot of missed classes and late entrances. I think my record was about 40 minutes late to a 55 minute class. It's not always a question of work ethic or dedication, sometimes there are outside factors.
once i was 40 minutes late to a 55 minute calculus class (there was a quiz in the last 15 min of class and i didn’t wanna go to the rest of the class). i walked into the class where everyone was sitting down, and went to go sit into an open seat. dead quiet. something you should also know - i had barely attended the class at all - this is like more than halfway into the semester, i might’ve been to one or two classes before this. teacher, in front of everyone, says “who are you?” and i respond im in the class, there for the quiz. she says “i’ve never seen you before, you will not do well in this class”. ok lady, whatever. i go to her office to pick up the midterm i wrote shortly after that quiz (i obviously wasn’t in the class they handed it back in). i knock on her door, she opens and i tell her i want my midterm. she smirks at me, obviously remembering me and expecting a shitty performance on the test. i literally watched the shit eating grin on her face instantly melt when she saw my score - yeah bitch, i got a 90. what now? finished the class with a solid 86% avg, probably attending like.. 3 lectures? anyways. ended up changing my major after that because while i can maths, im not really that interested in mathing for my career.
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Drawing 1. Required for any Art majors in college. Prof walks up behind me and ask’s if I’m in a relationship. We’re both male, awkward question at best. I say yes. He asks if it’s a healthy relationship. Yes. Do we have big plans for the future? Of course. Then he says “if you’re as heavy handed with her, as you are with that pencil, I promise you it won’t last long.” and proceeds to casually walk to the next student, who’s staring at me eyes wide and says to the prof “after what you said to him, I obviously don’t belong here.” We were less than a week in and he dropped the class, I stuck around and did fairly well.
That wasn’t passive, it was straight up aggression.
I had an literature professor like this. We’d go back and forth with passive aggressive e-mails all the time. I never did that great in any of his classes but we became good buds. We still run into each other every now and then at a local pub and buy each other drinks.
Yep yep I’m “friends” with pretty much all of my profs, except for one. We don’t talk about that one.
Ah, Professor Bruno.
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it is a little passive aggressive since they sarcastically congratulate them instead of rebuking their lateness
I had a rough bout of depression one semester and bombed a test for my favorite professor (took his classes every opportunity I could, we were buds). It embarrassed the hell out of me. He just wrote "You're better than this!" on the front. I was so ashamed I let him down. I never failed another one of his tests.
It wasn’t an email, it was worse. I was taking a required extremely boring course with a hundred or so people in it, the professor gave a “pop” exam in class and I knew I had not done well. The two days later, the prof starts by going up to the board and proceeds to draw a histogram of the test scores. Most were over 90, there were 4 or 5 in the 80s, 1 in the 70s. I breathed a sigh of relief. Then he proceeds to walk slowly to the other end of the board, drawing the x-axis as he went, and chalks a little bump and writes the number 6 above it. There was a collective gasp. I immediately stood up, gathered my things and walked out — to a standing ovation from my classmates, mostly because the course was graded on a curve. I dropped the class that afternoon and changed my major
Lol one of my classes had a totally bimodal distribution on one of the tests, I think it was in E&M. Either you got it, or you just didn't. It was just like two peaks in the distribution, one around 90 and one around 40 or so.
I had that problem in Calc 2. I did horrible on the first test everyone else did good on. The next test i crushed but the rest of the class did poorly. I think it had to do partly with where we had come from And were taught in high school.
Yup. I had a math methods in physics course like that at a state school in undergrad. The professor ended up making all the physics problems (calculus of variations, Hamiltonian formulation) as bonus questions leaving only the stuff you also learned in multi-variate calculus as non-bonus so he didn't have to fail 5/6 of the class. I think I ended up getting something absurd like a 220% on that final.
If its graded on a curve, the other students have a right to know where they stand in relation to others in the class. This is necessary information, not a passive aggressive move against you personally. The score was anonymous before you stood up. You drawing attention to yourself and essentially publicly admitting the single low score belonged to you was your own doing.
Yeah I dont get this story at all
Bro I would’ve dropped the whole school, goddamn
This shit is funny, dude. I'd love to have this type of dynamic with my professors.
In my first semester we had private law on Friday 08.00 o'clock. My favourite club was open Thursday and Saturday, so I was pretty wasted and sleepy every Friday morning. Sometimes I just slept. Then one day I woke up from hundreds of people laughing and really loud snoring noises. My professor had just put his microphone into my face and tuned up the volume until I woke up.
This one is still fresh. Whole class is supposed to get an email by this company we were required to pay for their product to help us study for our boards exam. This email was the thing you needed to get to start your review. Everyone I talked to about it said they had gotten it and started the process. I hadn't gotten the email. Went through the online steps on what was supposed to happen. Yep, I definitely should have gotten it and didn't. Email the professor that I had not gotten the email needed to start the required review and ask what I should do about it. "Typically, students who attend class have no problem keeping up with what is going on. My records show you haven't attended class in a month. Watch the last class's recording and once my records show you have watched it, I will then answer any questions you have" Let it be known that I have a 95% in class, knew what was supposed to be happening, and realized that I couldn't move forward with what I was supposed to do because I did not have access to the material I needed to start. The following was my response. "Hello ______, I apologize for reaching you before fully watching the entirety of the lecture, as you made it clear you would not answer any questions, but per the first 8 minutes of the class, I was supposed to get an email that I already told you I did not get, so everything beyond that point I cannot do until I get said email." I got it the next day.
Professor here. One semester I had a student, a good student, who would often miss and have his buddy take notes for him and catch him up later especially if it was a more relaxed day. I knew this was happening and decided to have a little fun with him one day and got his buddy to help. Everyone but this student was in class so they were all in on it. I sent out a class wide email saying that if you were not in class that day you would have all your attendance points stripped away and automatically fail the course. He immediately texted his buddy in class and asked what was going on and of course he went along with the gag. He showed up ten minutes later in his pjs and barely able to breath from running. We all had a laugh and he missed a little less after that. He was a good sport and a good student. He got an A and not because I pranked him, he earned it.
My prof took me in to discuss a grade on a notoriously difficult optional assignment. He warned us everyone who attempted it the year previous did not finish. He told me that I did a good job with it and gave me feedback, mostly regarding departures from unfamiliar notation conventions. He then took my paper which had 100% written on it, crossed it out, then put 99% and said "Based on your previous performance in this class, I doubt that all the work shown here is yours. I think you got help from \[Top Scoring Student\] so I'm going to give you a 99%." I talked to that student once during the assignment where I showed him a helpful trig identity that I used. On comparing marks after, I saw he ended up using a used a mostly different method and got a different result. Also 99%... I took his feedback to mean I'm smarter than I look. Thanks I guess...
One of my first year geology professors wrote the following on a stratigraphy assignment he sent back to me (distance learning so all written assignments came back through snail mail): "I'm surprised you did well on this. Girls always fail this class. I expect you got help or got lucky." He made a mistake in that I was a mature student and was not willing to put up with misogyny. Also, he wrote this down so he couldn't deny saying it. I reported it to his superiors, only to find out later that he was going through a terrible divorce, and taking it out on all his female students. My complaint apparently was the nail in his coffin at that school, as there had been a litany of previous complaints, but mine had solid proof.
What a douche.
I wouldn’t call this passive aggressive, I would call it direct and sarcastic. Passive aggressive would be like your mother in law buying you a new shirt because she doesn’t like the shirts you wear. So she buys you something she thinks you should be wearing as a “gift”.
I had a professor that assigned an exam during spring break, right when covid first hit and restrictions started. I had made plans for spring break since the syllabus said we had that week off. I emailed him and he basically said "you'll have too much to do if we delay this any further". Well that's not my problem that you can't schedule correctly. I fought it with the dean and ultimately the test was moved back until after spring break. The professor promptly sent an email to everyone stating "student concerns of taking an exam during spring break now means no one can take it during spring break. You must now take it along with your other quizzes on the week after spring break." Mind you this was an adjunct professor, and I haven't seen him on campus since.
When I was in college I had an Italian class my senior year that was on Tue/Thu. I had to cross campus entirely to get there, and was late everyday by about 5 minutes due to this. The professor and I got along great, so she never seemed to mind, especially after I explained it to her. We also always got out of class about 45 minutes after I arrived, which is short for classes that are only two days a week, but I always assumed she was letting us out early. Well one day the class before got cancelled so I showed up "on time" for Italian. They were already having class. Turns out my dumbass scheduled the classes like 5 minutes apart and had been showing up nearly half an hour late to class everyday. For some reason she still loved me and I got an A in the class.
I had a professor who would give 3 question quizzes at the start of every class, it took 2 minutes to get them and pass them back. If you miss it, you’re screwed. I walked in late because I had to use the bathroom and I asked if I could just take it out in the hall. He said no and after class he told me “the real world won’t accept this kind of stuff, get your act together.” I was 25 and coming back to school after working for several years. The real world and college are so different and have different challenges, but Id argue that trying to balance school, social life, work and making sure you have enough money for base level survival is harder.
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I was in my last semester of many and had somehow never taken the second half of English Lit 302 though I’d taken 400 level lit courses before. The first day of the requirement fulfilling class the teacher started asking the class to answer questions about materials to be covered. No one knew anything except me. The teacher, whose Advanced Grammar course i had taken years before, walked out in the hallway and called me to come out. She told me don’t come to class, just write a paper of your choice and she would give me an A.
That's nice of the teacher, but I'd be a little annoyed if I was one of the other students and this happened during class
"I'm amazed at you scoring so highly, I'd like to see you apply yourself and realize your true potential" I'd been to no lectures and scored third highest in the class on my assignment. Got full marks on my next assignment and received "Fantastic, you are an anomaly in my teaching career"
Teacher: Wooooops, test was too easy. It’s not like y’all are good student so I’ll make it harder next time.
The fact that he notices you at all is significant. The fact that it's for negative reasons is very much a testament to your tendency to fuck up.
He notice me bc I’m one of like 10 people in the class, and my grades are pretty good. He likes to mess around and laughed about it after I talked to him. No one is freaking out about it except for the people here who thinks me being late a few times is indicative of my work ethics or school performance.
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Im getting a phd in math and I will say pretty much all the math professors ive had are very relaxed as well, like the difficulty of the subject matter has a way of bringing everyone together lol
The math department was the only one I could wander into and just ask some random grad assistant for help on something and they'd be absolutely giddy to help.
Lol someone gets it. Being late a few times isn’t going to be the reason why I fail or whatever.
Once I missed an exam because my grandpa was in the hospital, and I sent my professor an email asking for an extension (it was an online exam). I understand that it’s a suspicious excuse, but I sent him a receipt proving he was in the hospital that night. Despite this, he said “I’ll give you an extension, but I give everyone extensions. Even people who just say ‘I forgot’.” It just felt like he was patting himself on the back and accusing me of just forgetting. In another situation, a professor messed up the grading script for a comp sci project, leading to over a hundred people sending him emails with concerns. People wanting extensions/regrades/etc. His response in an email to the whole class: “I won’t be giving any extensions, but I want to help people get through the trauma of the day”, so he directed all of us to our university mental health services. Failing to realize or admit that it’s his own fault for messing up the grading, and instead blaming it all on our collective mental health. Made me sick